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Re: My 17 Yr Old Sister Is Pregnant... by Aaau: 4:32pm On Feb 17, 2022
Many young girls are getting pregnant these days blame social media bad parenting and bad economic
Re: My 17 Yr Old Sister Is Pregnant... by airsaylongcome: 4:36pm On Feb 17, 2022
The5DME:
This is a terrible advice. The girl should only be allowed to conceive that child, if the family has sufficient resources to take care of an additional human being else, she's better off having an abortion.
I see where you are coming from with this. To each, his own. I have an aunt who experienced similar situation but it was her son that was in the "mess". After that first grandchild almost 20years ago she had the next one a few months back. 20 solid years between both grandchildren!

I'm not in any way encourage the act, but it has already been done. Best line of action is to make the best of it
Re: My 17 Yr Old Sister Is Pregnant... by mzeepositive: 4:45pm On Feb 17, 2022
tunjilee003:
I heard the news from my mum today and i feel bad about.... She has been a very stubborn girl since childhood, she doesn't listen to our parents and yells back at them atimes..
To me I feel someone getting her pregnant will allow her to see the other side of life....
PLEASE YOU GUYS AS FAMILY SHOULD SHOW HER SUPPORT AND GIVE HER MORE LOVE
GETTING PREGNANT IS NOT A LIFE SENTENCE OR THE END OF HER LIFE PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE
Re: My 17 Yr Old Sister Is Pregnant... by AmazonTopaz(f): 4:46pm On Feb 17, 2022
Legendoo:
[s]From blm the aggreived to degenerates the aggreived.

We see you[/s]
Keep quiet
Re: My 17 Yr Old Sister Is Pregnant... by MNDY(m): 4:47pm On Feb 17, 2022
Spherical77:
Someone was responsible for it na guy, no dey talk like this
It is you who should not be talking like this. Even the OP her brother is facing her with the blames, you are dragging her sex-mate into the matter unnecessarily. In matters like this, the girl-child should be dealt with and should be getting stricter parenting. Why? She decides whether to open her legs or not and also decides to control herself. Her decision to open legs or not is only hers and is what determines which outcome she would get.
Re: My 17 Yr Old Sister Is Pregnant... by princewarri1985: 4:48pm On Feb 17, 2022
tunjilee003:
I heard the news from my mum today and i feel bad about.... She has been a very stubborn girl since childhood, she doesn't listen to our parents and yells back at them atimes..
To me I feel someone getting her pregnant will allow her to see the other side of life....
She don get belle and she go born am! Whats our own there??
Re: My 17 Yr Old Sister Is Pregnant... by AmazonTopaz(f): 4:48pm On Feb 17, 2022
Slayar:
Lol,are you to be the judge in your own case? On a faceless forum?
Yes, because on the faceless I know myself alone and I am in a better position to judge since neither of us know one another you assumed something you have no idea of about me so I am in the best position to refute.
Re: My 17 Yr Old Sister Is Pregnant... by alexvic12: 4:50pm On Feb 17, 2022
That's so true! And that's why responsible parenting is important.

We4all:
Some over pamper and that’s not love.
Re: My 17 Yr Old Sister Is Pregnant... by islamics(m): 4:51pm On Feb 17, 2022
tensazangetsu20:
Life is predestined and freewill is limited. People that will be oloshos and yahoo boys are predestined to become that. No amount of home training can change that.
Exactly.
From religious perspective, na why we are ask to pray for good, perhaps our predestined might be good but if e con be bad, make we no too kill ourselves cos na wetin e be be that: predestiny.
Re: My 17 Yr Old Sister Is Pregnant... by ImaIma1(f): 5:01pm On Feb 17, 2022
michlins:
Should we tell him guys.


Your parents failed in parenting her. What happened to the old style of beating sense into a child when they start getting wayward. Dem no born you well to talk back to my parents. Parenting is a very difficult job and not for the soft hearted

This woke generation will tell you it's wrong but see where it landed her.

My heart goes out to the innocent unborn child who didn't do anything to deserve being brought into this mess
I'm sure it's not all the children that got pregnant or got someone pregnant, for you to reach this conclusion.

Under the same roof and with the same parenting, one child may go astray, and that is not necessarily the parents' fault.
Re: My 17 Yr Old Sister Is Pregnant... by kkins25(m): 5:13pm On Feb 17, 2022
Kobojunkie:
Again, most all the girls I knew in high-school who has strict parents ended up knocked up before graduation or thereafter. Flogging your child everyday does not and will not make that child wiser. It might make that child fear you but fear does not work as a deterrent when it comes to matters of this kind, from my experience. undecided

Whether na girl child or boy child, the best deterrent to bad behavior na commonsense and parents can only teach that if they themselves have it. undecided
There was a time, as a teacher, we employed some new staffs. The only thing they could think of was floging.

late commers- flog
Assignment defaulters - flog
Slow learners - flog.
behaviors that every child does once in a while- flog

Because the new teachers had raised the bar of flogging, the others joined hand.

There was a time one of them slapped a student for having eye shadow. I witnessed it and almost cried.

As the HOD sciences, i started to caution him, but i couldn't do that and hold the tears inside. i started to yell but i felt my eyes grow wet and stopped.

All the drama, only to find out that the 'eye shadow' was not eye shadow but actually a scar from an eye disease she was recovering from. All her eye lids were dark.

The next staff meeting, i exploded. i don't really say much on normal occasions but that day every body collect bullet.

i even unintentionally disrespected the head mistress.

But i couldn't express my self properly - tears again.

The only person who shared ideology like mine was the proprietor, he is a "coded atheist" i believe. lol.
Unfortunately, he always isn't around.
Re: My 17 Yr Old Sister Is Pregnant... by Kobojunkie: 5:18pm On Feb 17, 2022
kkins25:
There was a time, as a teacher, we employed some new staffs. The only thing they could think of was floging.

late commers- flog
Assignment defaulters - flog
Slow learners - flog.
behaviors that every child does once in a while- flog

Because the new teachers had raised the bar of flogging, the others joined hand.

There was a time one of them slapped a student for having eye shadow. I witnessed it and almost cried.

As the HOD sciences, i started to caution him, but i couldn't do that and hold the tears inside. i started to yell but i felt my eyes grow wet and stopped.

All the drama, only to find out that the 'eye shadow' was not eye shadow but actually a scar from an eye disease she was recovering from. All her eye lids were dark.

The next staff meeting, i exploded. i don't really say much on normal occasions but that day every body collect bullet.

i even unintentionally disrespected the head mistress.

But i couldn't express my self properly - tears again.

The only person who shared ideology like mine was the proprietor, he is a "coded atheist" i believe. lol.
Unfortunately, he always isn't around.
I can bet you they were, all of them,raised in homes filled with violence and so know no better. lipsrsealed
Re: My 17 Yr Old Sister Is Pregnant... by Slayar: 5:21pm On Feb 17, 2022
AmazonTopaz:
Yes, because on the faceless I know myself alone and I am in a better position to judge since neither of us know one another you assumed something you have no idea of about me so I am in the best position to refute.
You were stating different things without any studies or research to back it up.

The rate of crime and everyother vice is on a high,to levels never seen before.The west is having problems containing the aftermath of their thriving liberalism and then you're here supporting same shit that took them where they are currently ,claiming it's better than good - old parenting ,where is your proof?
Re: My 17 Yr Old Sister Is Pregnant... by CSTRR: 5:23pm On Feb 17, 2022
AmazonTopaz:
If you cannot bring out facts why not shut up instead of churning out balderdash that only exist in your head.
Na me you dey talk to like that?
I be your mate?
Re: My 17 Yr Old Sister Is Pregnant... by MNDY(m): 5:28pm On Feb 17, 2022
chukwuibuipob:
sad Nowadays kids sad sad sad? 17 that year,we still dey chop cane, removed hair and placed it under doormat to evade punishment,hide under bed,runz go old pipu to shield u from Ur parents koboko sad. Nowadays kids don Sabi wrap igbo sad.smoke,drink,play Bet9ja,flog their parents, insult their class teacher.


Even 15 yrs old girl don collect uncle stick sad
Remind me the belief around putting hair under the doormat again pls
Re: My 17 Yr Old Sister Is Pregnant... by Sukkyy2010: 5:35pm On Feb 17, 2022
Your sister early crave for this adulthood enjoyment. Now she has enjoyed it to the fullest. I welcome her to the motherhood.
Re: My 17 Yr Old Sister Is Pregnant... by DarkJeddi(m): 5:44pm On Feb 17, 2022
michlins:
Should we tell him guys.


Your parents failed in parenting her. What happened to the old style of beating sense into a child when they start getting wayward. Dem no born you well to talk back to my parents. Parenting is a very difficult job and not for the soft hearted

This woke generation will tell you it's wrong but see where it landed her.

My heart goes out to the innocent unborn child who didn't do anything to deserve being brought into this mess
You never jam stubborn pikin..

Forget all these gragra..

Just pray you never give birth to a stubborn child..

Igbos have a saying..

An evil child that enters her mother's womb through the bush..
Re: My 17 Yr Old Sister Is Pregnant... by AmazonTopaz(f):
Slayar:
You were stating different things without any studies or research to back it up.

The rate of crime and everyother vice is on a high,to levels never seen before.The west is having problems containing the aftermath of their thriving liberalism and then you're here supporting same shit that took them where they are currently ,claiming it's better than good - old parenting ,where is your proof?
That is basic child psychology go and study it and think if that was a baseless statement, I told you that I am an example of that and you have the guts to say that there is no research to back it up which expert are you?

The west is having problems with liberalism because that is some made up BS that only exist in your head. it is better than old parenting because the corrupt and myopic, close minded and undeveloped Nigerian society is enough proof that it does not work.

Family is the basic unit and Nigerian leaders all came from homes where they were instilled the so-called "good-old parenting" but hey look where we are undecided

Where is the west at with liberalism that Nigeria is better than, crime is on a high because it is being reported thanks to social media the previous generation were no different because they were the ones who failed the younger ones and taught them what they are doing today it has no business with liberalism, if you have a problem with liberalism you have a problem with the major tenets of democracy.
Re: My 17 Yr Old Sister Is Pregnant... by 2kurupt(m): 6:20pm On Feb 17, 2022
Shakara don end. Teens of nowadays no dey hear word.

Until a crab gets into a pot of boiling water it does not know there are 2 types of water.
Re: My 17 Yr Old Sister Is Pregnant... by Slayar: 6:54pm On Feb 17, 2022
AmazonTopaz:
That is basic child psychology go and study it and think if that was a baseless statement, I told you that I am an example of that and you have the guts to say that there is no research to back it up which expert are you?

The west is having problems with liberalism because that is some made up BS that only exist in your head. it is better than old parenting because the corrupt and myopic, close minded and undeveloped Nigerian society is enough proof that it does not work.

Family is the basic unit and Nigerian leaders all came from homes where they were instilled the so-called "good-old parenting" but hey look where we are undecided

Where is the west at with liberalism that Nigeria is better than, crime is on a high because it is being reported thanks to social media the previous generation were no different because they were the ones who failed the younger ones and taught them what they are doing today it has no business with liberalism, if you have a problem with liberalism you have a problem with the major tenets of democracy.
I'm not a novice to Sigmund Freud's Child psychology. I still stand on what I said that your genralization is baseless. You're stating that the so called method of parenting that a child can call 911 on their parents for a simple tap on the back or something... Or a society where a male child can decide they don't want to be male or female anymore as early as ten is the best model we should follow.

Let me tell you something you do not know.The total number of people causing Nigeria ' s problem are not up to 1000 people. It is the failure and cowardice of others to stand up to them that has gotten us where we are not parenting.

Why is it that a lot of African parents send their kids back to Africa for "home training"? at some point when they discover they are on the verge of losing their kids to their society?

Do not tell me that crime is just being reported due to social media,maybe you're 21 yrs old or less. I watched TV back when it was black and white ,I was mature at a point where listening to radio was cool. They reported cases back then ,there was Clifford orji (the cannibal) and acclaimed cases of men losing their penis; but never was it as rampant as this.Back then you could leave your kids with your neighbours ,can you do that now?


Liberalism that is forcing bestiality, homosexuality and other weird ideology down our throats is same thing as democracy? You must be kidding. Today you are not allowed to think without offending at least one person . You're tagged misyogyst, racist,xenophobia, anti-Semitic, homophobic. They are good at tagging anything that goes against their own ideals.They do not allow freedom of thought. The very thing they claim they are promoting .


To cap it all,liberalism isn't solely responsible for the height of USA's development today. You've forgotten there was a strong culture conservative culture even in the USA. Liberalism is only destroying what the conservatives built over time.
Re: My 17 Yr Old Sister Is Pregnant... by TheMostComplex1: 6:54pm On Feb 17, 2022
AmazonTopaz:
A 17 year old girl was impregnated by a man who is likely older than her and she is still a minor under Nigerian law and minors generally cannot give consent.
Under the child rights act of 2003 which has not be ratified in many Northern states the age of consent is 18 if this lady is in a state that has adopted the child rights act she was statutorily raped and this is enough grounds to terminate a pregnancy what does a 17 year old in today's world know about parenting?that such a child will be burdened to become one at an age where she cannot feed herself..

This is highly messed up, Nigerian is a messed up society where women are not protected, this girl will likely bear the consequences alone and the rapist may not be held accountable.
You forgot to add that the matter should be reported to the police because the child was abused. This's an offence. Go to any NHRC & report
Re: My 17 Yr Old Sister Is Pregnant... by AmazonTopaz(f):
Slayar:
I'm not a novice to Sigmund Freud's Child psychology. I still stand on what I said that your genralization is baseless. You're stating that the so called method of parenting that a child can call 911 on their parents for a simple tap on the back or something... Or a society where a male child can decide they don't want to be male or female anymore as early as ten is the best model we should follow
You are so ignorant, my goodness a child has rights and should be treated like a human being so you are saying that because you birthed a child you can be privileged to abuse them and they should not report you right?what exactly are children to you?You are deflecting anyway the child is well within his/her rights do decide that for themselves in societies where that is legal,laws are not necessary moral.

Let me tell you something you do not know.The total number of people causing Nigeria ' s problem are not up to 1000 people. It is the failure and cowardice of others to stand up to them that has gotten us where we are not parenting
Every Nigerian is causing the problem of Nigeria, the system is rotten everywhere from the law enforcement who need to be bribed to carry out their duty, the health workers, civil servants e.t.c these people are more than 1000 why won't they be cowards when nobody cares about their next door neighbour as long as e nor dey affect me e nor concern me attitude they parrot.

Why is it that a lot of African parents send their kids back to Africa for "home training"? at some point when they discover they are on the verge of losing their kids to their society?
How many actually,have you asked yourself why they left the Africa with good home training in the first place?so kids having voices and rights means they are lost to society cheesy

Do not tell me that crime is just being reported due to social media,maybe you're 21 yrs old or less. I watched TV back when it was black and white ,I was mature at a point where listening to radio was cool. They reported cases back then ,there was Clifford orji (the cannibal) and acclaimed cases of men losing their penis; but never was it as rampant as this.Back then you could leave your kids with your neighbours ,can you do that now
It was not rampant because social media was not available then that is the truth if not for the internet you would not even be hearing about it in the first place to begin with to adjudge it as " rampant" thank God you admitted that men losing their joystick did not start today so ask yourself where the present generation learnt it from?they learnt it from adults like you the good-old days home training ambassadors, your generation taught them you are only seeing it as rampant today thanks to social media


Liberalism that is forcing bestiality, homosexuality and other weird ideology down our throats is same thing as democracy? You must be kidding. Today you are not allowed to think without offending at least one person . You're tagged misyogyst, racist,xenophobia, anti-Semitic, homophobic. They are good at tagging anything that goes against their own ideals.They do not allow freedom of thought. The very thing they claim they are promoting
Uncle, have you not heard of liberal democracy?majority of democracies around the world including Nigeria are practising liberal democracy that espouses the tenets of freedom, separation of church and state etc it is the same thing with democracy because the majority tenets of democracy is liberal, secularism came from liberalism for your information that is why it can be likened to democracy, liberalism is beyond your homophobia and no I am not kidding.The freedom of thought liberals don't support is hate racism, xenophobia, anti-semitism etc all stems from hate and why should a rational person have such a hateful and bitter thought process do you know how terrible those things are and how many people those hateful ideologies have harmed? I will advice that you extensively study liberalism anyone who hates liberalism are mostly disgruntled racist who do not like freedom of choice or liberty and think it is their duty to impose their thoughts on others.


To cap it all,liberalism isn't solely responsible for the height of USA's development today. You've forgotten there was a strong culture conservative culture even in the USA. Liberalism is only destroying what the conservatives built over time
Liberalism is what gave blacks in America equal rights, Liberalism is what gave women rights, Conservatives did not build anything they supported slavery and backed it up with the Bible and supported segregation,In the 1950's the two major parties in America had ideological changes the democrats of today were the republicans of old, while the republicans of today were the democrats of old when the dixiecrats who supported racism and segregation left the democratic party and became republican because the democratic party became center-left (liberal) and supported equal rights which brought about the 14th amendments and others supporting equal and civil right for blacks which are main tenets of liberalism.Conservativism does not build and it is incompatible with today's reality(the American version) that is why most young people identify as progressives or liberals.If by strong conservative culture you mean pro-gun ownership without regulation, disregard for science and public health, fight against environmental change and blatant racism you are not far from the truth that is why far right white nationalist are trying to take America into fascism and supported people like Trump
Re: My 17 Yr Old Sister Is Pregnant... by AmazonTopaz(f): 7:51pm On Feb 17, 2022
TheMostComplex1:
You forgot to add that the matter should be reported to the police because the child was abused. This's an offence. Go to any NHRC & report
Rightly said unfortunately money fit buy the case for Nigeria a country that cannot protect women.
Re: My 17 Yr Old Sister Is Pregnant... by Thazard(m): 8:01pm On Feb 17, 2022
michlins:
Should we tell him guys.


Your parents failed in parenting her. What happened to the old style of beating sense into a child when they start getting wayward. Dem no born you well to talk back to my parents. Parenting is a very difficult job and not for the soft hearted

This woke generation will tell you it's wrong but see where it landed her.

My heart goes out to the innocent unborn child who didn't do anything to deserve being brought into this mess
On point
Re: My 17 Yr Old Sister Is Pregnant... by Legendoo: 8:08pm On Feb 17, 2022
AmazonTopaz:
Keep quiet
Ode woke.

I Sabi ur types.
Re: My 17 Yr Old Sister Is Pregnant... by abchymoney: 8:10pm On Feb 17, 2022
How can she b sturbon n u can't descipline her. E don sup na
Re: My 17 Yr Old Sister Is Pregnant... by omoalaafin: 8:14pm On Feb 17, 2022
Do not abort it. Help her through this stage.
Re: My 17 Yr Old Sister Is Pregnant... by Slayar: 8:34pm On Feb 17, 2022
AmazonTopaz:
You are so ignorant, my goodness a child has rights and should be treated like a human being so you are saying that because you birthed a child you can be privileged to abuse them and they should not report you right?what exactly are children to you?You are deflecting anyway the child is well within his/her rights do decide that for themselves in societies where that is legal,laws are not necessary moral.

Every Nigerian is causing the problem of Nigeria, the system is rotten everywhere from the law enforcement who need to be bribed to carry out their duty, the health workers, civil servants e.t.c these people are more than 1000 why won't they be cowards when nobody cares about their next door neighbour as long as e nor dey affect me e nor concern me attitude they parrot.

How many actually,have you asked yourself why they left the Africa with good home training in the first place?so kids having voices and rights means they are lost to society cheesy

It was not rampant because social media was not available then that is the truth if not for the internet you would not even be hearing about it in the first place to begin with to adjudge it as " rampant" thank God you admitted that men losing their joystick did not start today so ask yourself where the present generation learnt it from?they learnt it from adults like you the good-old days home training ambassadors, your generation taught them you are only seeing it as rampant today thanks to social media


Uncle, have you not heard of liberal democracy?majority of democracies around the world including Nigeria are practising liberal democracy that espouses the tenets of freedom, separation of church and state etc it is the same thing with democracy because the majority tenets of democracy is liberal, secularism came from liberalism for your information that is why it can be likened to democracy, liberalism is beyond your homophobia and no I am not kidding.The freedom of thought liberals don't support is hate racism, xenophobia, anti-semitism etc all stems from hate and why should a rational person have such a hateful and bitter thought process do you know how terrible those things are and how many people those hateful ideologies have harmed? I will advice that you extensively study liberalism anyone who hates liberalism are mostly disgruntled racist who do not like freedom of choice or liberty and think it is their duty to impose their thoughts on others.



Liberalism is what gave blacks in America equal rights, Liberalism is what gave women rights, Conservatives did not build anything they supported slavery and backed it up with the Bible and supported segregation,In the 1950's the two major parties in America had ideological changes the democrats of today were the republicans of old, while the republicans of today were the democrats of old when the dixiecrats who supported racism and segregation left the democratic party and became republican because the democratic party became center-left (liberal) and supported equal rights which brought about the 14th amendments and others supporting equal and civil right for blacks which are main tenets of liberalism.Conservativism does not build and it is incompatible with today's reality(the American version) that is why most young people identify as progressives or liberals.If by strong conservative culture you mean pro-gun ownership without regulation, disregard for science and public health, fight against environmental change and blatant racism you are not far from the truth that is why far right white nationalist are trying to take America into fascism and supported people like Trump
So according to you children can take responsibility for themselves? Have you forgotten there's a reason why you can't buy cigarettes, watch pornogrpahy, buy alcohol and other things except you get to 18?

Let me remind you humanity didn't get to this point with liberals. Back when humanity had rules ,men had distinct roles different from that of women,there was order. Men prevailed over beasts and every other danger that could have sent us all extinct.

Now when everything is relatively at ease ,liberals and other activists come out fighting for equality,gay rights,paedophilia, beastiality and everything absurd you can think of.

Liberals have lost their way. I do not believe in their cause.

Raise your kids with "Love" and spoil them with it. In some years you'll be able to judge how far it got you.
Re: My 17 Yr Old Sister Is Pregnant... by CalmElder(m): 8:49pm On Feb 17, 2022
OP don't abandon your sister.
Don't pressure her to marry unless if she insists.
You can express anger and still be supportive.
She's carrying your nephew or niece.
Encourage her to go back to school after birthing the child.

I understand that it's embarrassing, but
na beg me I dey beg u.
Re: My 17 Yr Old Sister Is Pregnant... by Spherical77(m): 9:49pm On Feb 17, 2022
MNDY:
It is you who should not be talking like this. Even the OP her brother is facing her with the blames, you are dragging her sex-mate into the matter unnecessarily. In matters like this, the girl-child should be dealt with and should be getting stricter parenting. Why? She decides whether to open her legs or not and also decides to control herself. Her decision to open legs or not is only hers and is what determines which outcome she would get.
this is one of the major reason behind the moral decadence in the society today. You apportioned blame to the girl child because she opened her leg leaving the boy child who lack control. If we all had thought our boy child the need and important to keep to themselves and if they must be found wanting it's either with condom or nothing else. So many girls are being rape today due to the high level of irresponsible men in the society. Surprisingly some would still blame the girl for being rape. Girls in Nigeria are going through hell seriously. At home, they does lot of chores believing she'd get married someday. Let's change the narrative and focus on these boys. They are into Yahoo, ritualist, armed rubbery, drug addict, rapist amongst many others. I'm pretty sure the guy responsible for that pregnancy is much more older than the 17 years old girl. If this guy had been properly raised, we wouldn't be here having this discussion. If such a guy had been well brought up, he'd know having sex without condom is dangerous. It's rare for girls to go out with someone way younger than they are. The guys are always older but their age is completely useless. The boy child will continue living i don't care life because they know the society will put the blame on the girl child

I'm a guy and i see how guys behave. I see how some parents had spoilt their male child/ren. Look at what they had become in the society. Go to correctional centres in Nigeria. The male inmates constitutes more than 98% of the population. Just few fraction of females are found there. Go to brothels, you'd found both gender. The male gender patronize the females. Both gender are guilty on this

Let's change the narrative this time around and see what would become of the next generation
Re: My 17 Yr Old Sister Is Pregnant... by AmazonTopaz(f): 10:18pm On Feb 17, 2022
Slayar:
So according to you children can take responsibility for themselves? Have you forgotten there's a reason why you can't buy cigarettes, watch pornogrpahy, buy alcohol and other things except you get to 18
Don't misunderstand me children are human beings with rights and as parents or guardians it is expected of you to guide them while under your care till they get to a stage where they don't need it typically around 16 because then their opinions must have been formed it is not your duty to impose your beliefs on them.

Let me remind you humanity didn't get to this point with liberals. Back when humanity had rules ,men had distinct roles different from that of women,there was order. Men prevailed over beasts and every other danger that could have sent us all extinct
I see that you are conservative or traditional anyway rules are meant to be challenged and always subject to changes so welcome to the 21st century where personal liberty is prioritised and the status quo is not always right and it is not in society's place to decide for individuals the roles they should fit into let the individuals decide for themselves humanity still has rules it is just that you don't like the rules of today but you will just have to live with it.Men are not living with beast in today's undecided society ao no need to prevail over that.
Now when everything is relatively at ease ,liberals and other activists come out fighting for equality,gay rights,paedophilia, beastiality and everything absurd you can think of.

Liberals have lost their way. I do not believe in their cause.

Raise your kids with "Love" and spoil them with it. In some years you'll be able to judge how far it got you.
When there is still discrimination you are talking about ease, lol you are against equality are you sure you are okay?If not for equality the white man will remain superior to youand you would not have basic rights,and why should gays not have rights are they not human beings did homosexuality atart today was it liberals who discovered it?Paedophilia and beastiality has nothing to do with liberalism try not to be a clown this your write up is very embarrassing.
Thankfully liberals are in the majority and people are embracing it everyday we don't need your support it will still continue to flourish because it is for the time that we are in.
So far so good raising kids with love has made them more empathetic and loving to they neighbour it is better that they are raised with love and compassion if that means them being spoiled then you are a terrible human being that needs to unlearn a lot and relearn things.If the good old days were so good for raising kids there would have been no need to adopt the love approach.I get the feeling that you are a man and yet we wonder why children get to love their mothers more when fathers or men like you think that loving kids and training them in compassion equal spoiling them you are the best example of this, how has raising children without love worked out for you and your generation be the judge of that ask yourself where that has gotten you and your know it all good -old generation?
Re: My 17 Yr Old Sister Is Pregnant... by jimcaddy(m): 12:18am On Feb 18, 2022
They have shuuk prickkk inside this one without using rubber and baba blissfully spewed streams of hot thick pap inside her. Now look what has happened ���
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