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Re: Submission Is Not Weakness - Pastor David Ibiyeomie (video) by Heterodox(m): 10:44am On Jun 19, 2022
Wallade:


Some days soon, you will have reasons to differ on your assumption that submission is slavery.

Besides, are you christian?
Are you a human?
Re: Submission Is Not Weakness - Pastor David Ibiyeomie (video) by Bimpe29: 10:46am On Jun 19, 2022
Fahdiga:
Kwankwaso should submit to Obi. It is not weakness
And they should both submit to Tinubu. It won't be a weakness as well. grin grin grin grin grin grin grin grin grin grin grin grin grin grin grin grin grin grin grin grin grin grin
Re: Submission Is Not Weakness - Pastor David Ibiyeomie (video) by Wallade(m): 10:47am On Jun 19, 2022
Heterodox:
Are you a human?

I am human. Again I ask: are you a christian? Answer the simple question.
Re: Submission Is Not Weakness - Pastor David Ibiyeomie (video) by luminouz(m): 10:48am On Jun 19, 2022
Deborah98:
The word submission don suffer for Nigerian men month. Any small thing submit... interesting. You don't force your wife to submit to you. You love her to submit to you. It's a two way thing. Wives submit yourselves unto your husband and in return husbands love your wives shikina...

This is wrong biko
Re: Submission Is Not Weakness - Pastor David Ibiyeomie (video) by Ovulo: 10:48am On Jun 19, 2022
Heterodox:
Stop teaching this crap.


Submission is slavery.



No one needs to be submissive.


Love is humble. When this is present in its purity, there's no ego and as such you won't disrespect each other.

You are very correct bro..

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Re: Submission Is Not Weakness - Pastor David Ibiyeomie (video) by BloomingDale(f): 10:48am On Jun 19, 2022
NwibanaEmmanuel:


You go soon sing carry me dey go my husband house.

Watch out

Yes, men have control over the marriage institution. That’s why they shame single women, calling them evening newspaper etc, so they can wield that control over women. I refuse to fall for any of those tricks. Even if I get married, the man should stay in his house while I stay in mine. Don’t want anyone in my space.

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Re: Submission Is Not Weakness - Pastor David Ibiyeomie (video) by luminouz(m): 10:49am On Jun 19, 2022
MallamChukwudi:
Submission should not be confused with obedience. Obedience is like how a lady endure her rude boss due to her inability to get a good job out there, while submission is more of respect, because you can tell him no. You're strong on your right, which makes your submission an admission of strength.

Tell your boss no and term it submission na... grin
Re: Submission Is Not Weakness - Pastor David Ibiyeomie (video) by luminouz(m): 10:51am On Jun 19, 2022
BloomingDale:
There is no iota of submission in my body. Rather I will prefer the man submit to me. Not everyone believes in your misogynistic Bible and quoran that was made to cage the feminine energy.

Sometimes when you talk, I just shake my head for you. Since there is no iota of submission in your body, how then do you treat your father, does he submit to you?

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Re: Submission Is Not Weakness - Pastor David Ibiyeomie (video) by BloomingDale(f): 10:52am On Jun 19, 2022
luminouz:


Sometimes when you talk, I just shake my head for you. Since there is no iota of submission in your body, how then do you treat your father, does he submit to you?

My father and mother has earned the right, not one small boy in the name of marriage. Tahhh

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Re: Submission Is Not Weakness - Pastor David Ibiyeomie (video) by folake4u(f): 10:52am On Jun 19, 2022
Deborah98:
The word submission don suffer for Nigerian men mouth. Any small thing submit... interesting. You don't force your wife to submit to you. You love her to submit to you. It's a two way thing. Wives submit yourselves unto your husband and in return husbands love your wives shikina...

Lmao @bolded. Spot on.
I had a neighbour who treated his wife as trash and he kept yelling the submission thingy to her.

Generally speaking, Submission comes naturally to a woman when the head of the home/husband is fulfilling his own duties well also.

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Re: Submission Is Not Weakness - Pastor David Ibiyeomie (video) by We4all: 10:53am On Jun 19, 2022
Ayomi90:

Go read ur Bible and stop forming intelligent here.

Baye, sane bible where Abraham married his half sister right?

Don’t try to reference the Bible when it suits you and turn a blind eye if it doesn’t.

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Re: Submission Is Not Weakness - Pastor David Ibiyeomie (video) by luminouz(m): 10:56am On Jun 19, 2022
BloomingDale:


My father and mother has earned the right, not one small boy in the name of marriage. Tahhh

You said 'there is no iota of submission in my body'

No mention of daddy or mummy earning right or not.

You need a man like me to teach you some real shiiit.

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Re: Submission Is Not Weakness - Pastor David Ibiyeomie (video) by baralatie(m): 10:59am On Jun 19, 2022
ashewoboy:
Tell safarigirl and other ladies like her on nairaland.
To be submissive
Re: Submission Is Not Weakness - Pastor David Ibiyeomie (video) by luminouz(m): 10:59am On Jun 19, 2022
folake4u:


Lmao @bolded. Spot on.
I had a neighbour who treated his wife as trash and he kept yelling the submission thingy to her.

Generally speaking, Submission comes naturally to a woman when the head of the home/husband is fulfilling his own duties well also.


Another fuqin lie. Submission is submission, no conditions attached. Why is it that every thing y'all do, has to do with conditions na? Did the Bible even say you must submit, AFTER your husband has LOVED you? That's some premium Bullshiit na.

You quoted your bad neighbor, why not quote dozens of your neighbors who treat their wives nicely
Re: Submission Is Not Weakness - Pastor David Ibiyeomie (video) by FACTANDREALITY: 11:01am On Jun 19, 2022
Bitter feminism have changed the conceptualisation
Re: Submission Is Not Weakness - Pastor David Ibiyeomie (video) by cococandy(f): 11:01am On Jun 19, 2022
sanpipita:
If indeed submission isn't slavery or weakness why do men avoid it?
They are going to jump through hoops to avoid giving a direct answer

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Re: Submission Is Not Weakness - Pastor David Ibiyeomie (video) by penearth(m): 11:02am On Jun 19, 2022
Fahdiga:
Kwankwaso should submit to Obi. It is not weakness
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Re: Submission Is Not Weakness - Pastor David Ibiyeomie (video) by luminouz(m): 11:03am On Jun 19, 2022
cococandy:

They are going to jump through hoops to avoid giving a direct answer
It's father's Day, mudafucker!!! Yet you won't let the men enjoy their own day?

You already had 6 or so mother's days this year alone yet you won't allow us enjoy a day in peace?

Dem swear for you ni? Hoop jumper!!!

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Re: Submission Is Not Weakness - Pastor David Ibiyeomie (video) by Interesting2023: 11:05am On Jun 19, 2022
UyaiIncomparabl:
Una no dey tire for this submission matter.

Always so obsessed with "submission".

Always feeling entitled
Re: Submission Is Not Weakness - Pastor David Ibiyeomie (video) by pocohantas(f): 11:06am On Jun 19, 2022
sanpipita:
If indeed submission isn't slavery or weakness why do men avoid it?

grin grin grin

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Re: Submission Is Not Weakness - Pastor David Ibiyeomie (video) by LadyTara(f): 11:06am On Jun 19, 2022
dominique:
If only these pastors can preach love and mutual respect between both couples with the same energy and vigour they're using to preach submission, maybe there won't be so much crises going on in most marriages. It takes two to make a marriage work not just submission from the wife.
Maybe it's just me,I but feel these religious leaders have subconsciously passed the responsibility of keeping a marriage together on women.

They keep hammering on submission, virtuous woman ,infact if there is a crisis in a marriage it's usually the woman who has to fast and pray. undecided. I might be wrong ,but it's just my observation.

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Re: Submission Is Not Weakness - Pastor David Ibiyeomie (video) by penearth(m): 11:07am On Jun 19, 2022
BloomingDale:


My father and mother has earned the right, not one small boy in the name of marriage. Tahhh
So u prefare marrying a boy than a man u would show respect to. Hmmm thats d weakness of ur submissiveness
Re: Submission Is Not Weakness - Pastor David Ibiyeomie (video) by cococandy(f): 11:07am On Jun 19, 2022
luminouz:

It's father's Day, mudafucker!!! Yet you won't let the men enjoy their own day?

You already had 6 or so mother's days this year alone yet you won't allow us enjoy a day in peace?

Dem swear for you ni? Hoop jumper!!!

This thread is where you’re enjoying your Father’s Day?

Go let the people you’re “fathering” celebrate you.

And why does your Father’s Day have to involve women’s submission? You can’t have a good Father’s Day unless women submit to you? Ode!

You should be able to have a good day regardless of what women chose to do. Otherwise it’s pathetic that your happiness/enjoying your day is dependent on who agrees to submit to you or not

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Re: Submission Is Not Weakness - Pastor David Ibiyeomie (video) by King44(m): 11:09am On Jun 19, 2022
Heterodox:
Stop teaching this crap.


Submission is slavery.


No one needs to be submissive.


Love is humble. When this is present in its purity, there's no ego and as such you won't disrespect each other.
There has to be submission and it's earned not forced.

Humility comes first for both partners and submission next for either the lady or the man. If the lady is the man in the relationship, the man has to be submissive (for a weak, irresponsible and lazy men only)

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Re: Submission Is Not Weakness - Pastor David Ibiyeomie (video) by luminouz(m): 11:10am On Jun 19, 2022
cococandy:


This thread is where you’re enjoying your Father’s Day?

Go let the people you’re “fathering” celebrate you.

And why does your Father’s Day have to involve women’s submission? You can’t have a good Father’s Day unless women submit to you? Ode!

Back to sender!!!

Today is father's Day. Shut your piehole and let us enjoy it in peace. Cho Cho Cho from you even on sunday?

Coco, biko, what exactly is your problem naaaaaaa?
Re: Submission Is Not Weakness - Pastor David Ibiyeomie (video) by Prenonjebose: 11:12am On Jun 19, 2022
9jaRealist:


EVERYONE desires (and inherently deserves as a human being) to be respected…
And frankly NO-ONE (male or female) should be in a relationship in which they are not respected.

Respect is NOT reserved for only one gender, and in any case is EARNED and not simply bestowed…
Nonetheless, EVERY human being DESERVES to be inherently respected, until and unless proven otherwise.
>
That's why I said don't marry who you don't or does not respect you. That's clear enough. My statement on most men desiring respect is the reality of an incontrovertible truth. And in the context of marriage, not work place, social gathering or general setting, this becomes a deal breaker. That is the essence of the message.
Re: Submission Is Not Weakness - Pastor David Ibiyeomie (video) by gram: 11:13am On Jun 19, 2022
Deborah98:
The word submission don suffer for Nigerian men month. Any small thing submit... interesting. You don't force your wife to submit to you. You love her to submit to you. It's a two way thing. Wives submit yourselves unto your husband and in return husbands love your wives shikina...

Submission and love are two of the most misunderstood words in scripture. They are not conditional, they are commandments i.e, even if your wife chooses not to submit, you must continue to love her and vice versa, while you both continue to work on this issue.

Both words as used, carry a spiritual connotation.

Many good women choose not to submit to their husbands, not because they are bad, but because they lack a submissive spirit and understanding of how this works. Likewise, many men lack the spirit of love. That is why it is advisable to work on yourself if you lack any of these qualities if you choose to be married as a Christian.

Marriage, as created by God is a sacrificial union that is not designed for anyone who lacks the spirit of submission and love. Both terms are extremely humbling and vulnerable states that are not for the proud. Love and submission are weakening states of human existence that should only be shared by people who understand them in a marriage. Howbeit, many are quick to expose their fleshly weakness in the name of passion but shy away from the weaknesses that God established for a successful marriage. It is impossible to have a Godly marriage without submission and love as God prescribed it - that does not mean that the marriage may not be good. It is just biblically impractical for you not to have a head in a marriage. The head (husband) is actually a sacrificial position, that if well understood, is not desirable for status purposes - I can’t explain all in this post.

However, I will say this - many seem to liken submission in the home to submission to their bosses, the law, and other hierarchical institutions because that’s what they’ve been used to. If you ever grew up in a home where the mother submitted and the father truly loved his wife, you will not wish for anything else.

Unfortunately, we have less and less examples to guide us in this generation. Submission and love are fading away, and marriage is becoming a strategic venture. These two terms, if well understood and practiced, would have saved many truncated marriages today. May God help us all.

That said, many men who lack biblical understanding of the word submission are quick to use it as a means of control. That is one reason why many women are now very irritated by the word, because they believe it is equivalent to subjugation. No, it is not equivalent to subjugation or subservience, neither should it be used as a tool for subterfuge.

Finally ladies - it is totally okay to choose not to submit to a man in the world we live in today, as a matter of choice. After all, we have been exposed to so much information that tells us that we can make any kind of choice we like. But, make it very clear to the man in your life that you will not submit to him if he asks you to do so before marriage, and if he chooses to marry you, then great for both of you. If you are a Christian and chose to follow the Bible, don’t argue about it or trick a man into believing you are submissive, only to change the goal posts later - this is one of the main reasons for failed marriages today. Men are guilty of this too - many show love and stop once married - dont do that my friend, else your marriage may be full of problems.

Women value love so much, just as men value submission - and I’m not talking only Bible now. God made us that way, let’s not fool each other.

There are men out there who will marry a woman who chooses not to be submissive in marriage, and the marriage can still be good. I personally don’t think this should be a controversial issue, It’s 100% choice. However, I doubt if a woman will ever choose to marry a man who expressly chooses not to love her, unless she is compelled by circumstances to do so, and I would definitely not advise any woman to do so.

May God give you understanding.

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Re: Submission Is Not Weakness - Pastor David Ibiyeomie (video) by Deborah98(f): 11:14am On Jun 19, 2022
Toks2008:


I advise you stop this baseless comparison.

I even wrote a thread about it years ago.

Let me see if I can reference the mods to bring it to Fpage.

https://www.nairaland.com/5417498/husbands-love-wifes-respect-which

Uncle this is not baseless just that na una gender carry am for head. Look this things happen naturally but in your case you guys make it like a do or die affairs. Sarah called her husband lord out of her own will. Something must have led to that?
Re: Submission Is Not Weakness - Pastor David Ibiyeomie (video) by Deborah98(f): 11:15am On Jun 19, 2022
Toktee:
what are you saying?

Are you confused?

Love comes before submission or submission come before love?


Submission comes before love. The latter is the bases for the former to Happen. Leave me Abeg ah never chop morning food undecided
Re: Submission Is Not Weakness - Pastor David Ibiyeomie (video) by Deborah98(f): 11:16am On Jun 19, 2022
royalfly:


How can love come without submission. What is there to love in absence of submission. Please count 1 before you count 2
Thank you. I hope they learn from this.
Re: Submission Is Not Weakness - Pastor David Ibiyeomie (video) by Deborah98(f): 11:18am On Jun 19, 2022
Aguiyimba:


Feminist
Go through my posts and threads on nairaland and see where I have ever advocated that. I am not a feminist but obviously you look pained. I just stated the fact. Hug the nearest transformer.

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Re: Submission Is Not Weakness - Pastor David Ibiyeomie (video) by Deborah98(f): 11:19am On Jun 19, 2022
[quote author=PierreAbutu post=113945641][/quote]Sarah called Abraham her Lord? Do you think she was forced into that? Look women tend to show their Love, respect and submission on a man who has shown himself loveable, respectful and the rest. You can't demand submission from a woman when you don't love her And btw I'm not a feminist.

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