immaculatesense:


Lol...u didn't answer all the fact questions I presented...do angel reproduce? Do the devil still available access to the throne of God?
See the etymology of the Hebrew word "sons of God on Wikipedia...the oldest believe from the earliest Hebrew historians who said they are righteous people rather than angel before the later ones that started the debate it to be angels rather than righteous people...

Even in Judaism that predate Christianity interpretes sons of God as righteous people of God
See

Guy i've told you that i'm Maximus one of Jehovah's Witnesses, we don't do all those stuffs of yours where you give what you have and take from your fellow Churchgoers.
We PREACH and TEACH those who are willing to learn so if you're not ready to learn we will take our leave and you can continue exchanging your stuff with your fellow Churchgoers!

Before Noah's time angels don't know humans are enjoying something they (angels) can enjoy that's why Satan went to heaven and told them to look into what is called SEX. They were moved so they abandoned their abode {Jude 6} and came down to make use of the dust of the ground which God used to form Adam. They formed beautiful bodies that's irresistible for female humans and since they're highly intelligent with the ability to earn whatever it takes to pay ladies all were running after them. Genesis 6:2

For your information that's how Satan dragged one third of the angels in heaven to join him in rebelling against God {Revelations 12:4} and most people do wonder why God had to use flood to destroy Noah's generation? Well it's because God doesn't want the angels to make further use of the original soil He use to form Adam anymore so the flood washed them away and that's why we have deserts on the planet otherwise the whole earth supposed to be habitable for humans with green vegetations everywhere! Genesis 1:27-28

That's the origin of demons God never created any angel to become a demon they left their proper dwelling places during Noah's time and God disowned them! 1Peter 3:19-20

So when the true God said there's no God anywhere else apart from Him {Exodus 20:2-3} it's because all other nations were worshiping demons there's no God beside the Holy One of Israel. That's why He sent Moses and said "i have made you God" because before the messenger of the true God all those demons will become powerless! Exodus 8:18-19

I hope you have learned a lot but if you're still anticipating the usual give and take stuff with your fellow Churchgoers abeg count me out.

Iron do sharpen iron {Proverbs 27:17} it's only applicable in the gathering of the worshipers of my own God so if you're not with us there's practically nothing sacred we can learn from you! 2Corinthians 6:14

May you have PEACE!

immaculatesense:
1
Ohhh..now am beginning to understand the sect u belong...those who really do not believe in Paul's teaching but the first four gospels...ohhh...I get...

2. But also u don't understand wat inspire means...that doesn't mean perfection but the need to put down sometin...human error is permissible because it deals with perspective...example is..
2 Samuel 24:1
[1]Once again the anger of the lord burned against Israel, and he caused David to harm them by taking a census. “Go and count the people of Israel and Judah,” the lord told him.
And
1 Chronicles 21:1
[1]Satan rose up against Israel and caused David to take a census of the people of Israel.

One writer said the Lord rose against David...another writer Said the Devil rose against david...
This are perspectives but that doesn't change the moral and the purpose...

3. Let ask straight since I know where u belong now...
Should a believer work to Earn or live without doing nothing?

1. I don't do sects. That said, the only one Jesus Christ actuality commanded His followers to believe in and obey is Himself. So logically if I chose to trust and obey Jesus Christ, it follows that I will not trust nor obey anyone else. Duh!

2a. I do understand "inspiration" which in no way means certification of Truth. In Genesis 2, we learn tha the knowledge of Good and of Evil, all belongs to God, meaning all knowledge is "inspired" by God. Does this mean all knowledge is True? Absolutely not! So stop brandishing the word "inspired" as though it is unique to even scripture because it isn't.

2b. As for what is written in 2 Samuel 24:1 & 1 Chronicles 21:1, if you understand who Satan is and who he works for, you would understand that those two passages speak of the same thing which is that God caused David to disobey Him. Focus on God, not morals and then you will learn God's Truth instead of your meaningless morals.

3. Again, Jesus Christ made it clear to you in John 6 vs 25 - 35 that instead of working to earn your living aka perishable bread, you are to instead work for bread that sustains to eternity which only He can give to you if you submit and obey Him.

I believe God's Truth.

Major7:


He lies! The verses didn't even reach 50

that's his problem afterall.

baajetu:
so the son is more merciful than the father ?

NO he learned from his father {John 14:31} but after the rebellion in the garden of Eden it's the son who pleaded in our behalf because humans are the most precious to Jesus after God used him to create all other things! Proverbs 8:22-31 compare to John 1:1

That's why God vowed in His anger that His wrath will be upon whoever ignore or disobey Jesus of Nazareth! John 3:16-18

May you have PEACE!

immaculatesense:

Dear Joshuam 1
U are great point...but the submission of a woman to man is not d kinda submission that happens between a master and his slave...
Remember Paul even said in Ephesians 5:21
[21]And further, submit to one another out of reverence for Christ.
Before verse 22...Ephesians 5:22
[22]For wives, this means submit to your husbands as to the Lord.

The reason for the submission is like a pilot or captain of the ship...two captain cannot drive a ship at the same time...dat doesn't mean he cannot be guided or question by other co workers in the ship...Read 1 Corinthians 11:11
[11]But among the Lord’s people, women are not independent of men, and men are not independent of women.

God and Paul decided to delegate this authority to either of the man or woman...the man was chosen for many reasons that Paul highlighted in 1 Timothy 2:13-14
[13]For God made Adam first, and afterward he made Eve.
[14]And it was not Adam who was deceived by Satan. The woman was deceived, and sin was the result.
And in 1 Corinthians 11:8-9
[8]For the first man didn’t come from woman, but the first woman came from man.
[9]And man was not made for woman, but woman was made for man.

I hope u can understand these...it's more of partnership but one as to take the forefront than master stroke servant relationship where one controls the other whether right it wrong

You are right, it is not master and slave, it is partnership.

Kobojunkie:
1. I don't do sects. That said, the only one Jesus Christ actuality commanded His followers to believe in and obey is Himself. So logically if I chose to trust and obey Jesus Christ, it follows that I will not trust nor obey anyone else. Duh!

2a. I do understand "inspiration" which in no way means certification of Truth. In Genesis 2, we learn tha the knowledge of Good and of Evil, all belongs to God, meaning all knowledge is "inspired" by God. Does this mean all knowledge is True? Absolutely not! So stop brandishing the word "inspired" as though it is unique to even scripture because it isn't.

2b. As for what is written in 2 Samuel 24:1 & 1 Chronicles 21:1, if you understand who Satan is and who he works for, you would understand that those two passages speak of the same thing which is that God caused David to disobey Him. Focus on God, not morals and then you will learn God's Truth instead of your meaningless morals.

3. Again, Jesus Christ made it clear to you in John 6 vs 25 - 35 that instead of working to earn your living aka perishable bread, you are to instead work for bread that sustains to eternity which only He can give to you if you submit and obey Him.

I believe God's Truth.

You are just rigmaroling...the question is should a believer work to earn or not... u av bn quoting Bible verses and we av read it...just answer YES or NO...simple...and save us the stress...or are u feeling shy or afraid of saying Yes or No?

Joshuam1:


You are right, it is not master and slave, it is partnership.

Okay...good

immaculatesense:

You are just rigmaroling...the question is should a believer work to earn or not... u av bn quoting Bible verses and we av read it...just answer YES or NO...simple...and save us the stress...or are u feeling shy or afraid of saying Yes or No?

Again, Jesus Christ made it clear to you in John 6 vs 25 - 35 that instead of working to earn your living aka perishable bread, you are to instead work for bread that sustains to eternity which only He can give to you if you submit and obey Him.

Jesus Christ said those who love Him are those who continously submit to and obey His commandments. - John 14 vs 15 - 25 & John 15 vs 14

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The reason I show you Bible verses showing you what Jesus Christ Himself said is so you know His Truth from the many lies you seem to hold to as far as His Kingdom is concerned.

MaxInDHouse:


None of the above was misinterpreted, it's just a matter of updates in English language while most churchgoers stick to the 15th century English KJV.


But as for misinterpretation the opening words of John's gospel account was erroneously mistranslated.

"In the beginning WAS the word and the word WAS with God and the word WAS God"

@ verse 18 of the same chapter we read:

"No man hath seen God at any time; the only begotten Son, which is in the bosom of the Father, he hath declared him"

So is the word GOD or someone beside GOD?

Of course the Word of God is God. His Spirit is God. Both his Word and His Spirit can operate seperately, but same God. That's why he is God...it goes beyond natural understanding.

udoh2k:


Of course the Word of God is God. His Spirit is God. Both his Word and His Spirit can operate seperately, but same God. That's why he is God...it goes beyond natural understanding.

Trinitarian delusion at work!

MaxInDHouse:


In the beginning WAS the word and the word WAS with God and the word WAS God

From the above it's clear something is wrong due to John's use of WAS throughout which means the word worked with God but as he is penning down those words the word isn't God rather the word WAS God at some point in time.
Moses WAS God at a point in time too {Exodus 7:1} therefore if Moses worked with God in delivering Israel out of Egypt and WAS God while in Egypt it doesn't mean that Moses IS God rather he served as God at a point in time.
So the correct interpretation of that verse would be:

In the beginning WAS the word and the word WAS God and the word WAS a god/ divine/ godlike

The use of capital for both God and the one with God makes no practical sense because all other verses afterwards shows that the word is God's messenger.

Thank you!

The Word was God...

The Word became flesh (i.e. human but still having divinity ) and dwelt among us.

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englishmart:
Some bible verses, like
Mark 12:17 "give to Caesar what belongs to Cesar"
Ephesians 5:22 "Wives submit thyself to your husband "
"Matthew 7:1 "judge not that you be not judged"
Some other verses are also misinterpreted.
In your knowledge, what other verses do you think is ignorantly misinterpreted?

A little wine is good for the body.... I think it's somewhere in Timothy 1 or 2

MaxInDHouse:


Guy i've told you that i'm Maximus one of Jehovah's Witnesses, we don't do all those stuffs of yours where you give what you have and take from your fellow Churchgoers.
We PREACH and TEACH those who are willing to learn so if you're not ready to learn we will take our leave and you can continue exchanging your stuff with your fellow Churchgoers!

Before Noah's time angels don't know humans are enjoying something they (angels) can enjoy that's why Satan went to heaven and told them to look into what is called SEX. They were moved so they abandoned their abode {Jude 6} and came down to make use of the dust of the ground which God used to form Adam. They formed beautiful bodies that's irresistible for female humans and since they're highly intelligent with the ability to earn whatever it takes to pay ladies all were running after them. Genesis 6:2

For your information that's how Satan dragged one third of the angels in heaven to join him in rebelling against God {Revelations 12:4} and most people do wonder why God had to use flood to destroy Noah's generation? Well it's because God doesn't want the angels to make further use of the original soil He use to form Adam anymore so the flood washed them away and that's why we have deserts on the planet otherwise the whole earth supposed to be habitable for humans with green vegetations everywhere! Genesis 1:27-28

That's the origin of demons God never created any angel to become a demon they left their proper dwelling places during Noah's time and God disowned them! 1Peter 3:19-20

So when the true God said there's no God anywhere else apart from Him {Exodus 20:2-3} it's because all other nations were worshiping demons there's no God beside the Holy One of Israel. That's why He sent Moses and said "i have made you God" because before the messenger of the true God all those demons will become powerless! Exodus 8:18-19

I hope you have learned a lot but if you're still anticipating the usual give and take stuff with your fellow Churchgoers abeg count me out.

Iron do sharpen iron {Proverbs 27:17} it's only applicable in the gathering of the worshipers of my own God so if you're not with us there's practically nothing sacred we can learn from you! 2Corinthians 6:14

May you have PEACE!

Dear MaxinDHouse
I just felt like crying for u...u seem lost and brainwash with analogy that as not ground...u distorted the meaning of Jude 6...read and let me explain it to u
Jude 1:6
[6]And I remind you of the angels who did not stay within the limits of authority God gave them but left the place where they belonged. God has kept them securely chained in prisons of darkness, waiting for the great day of judgment.

Explanation
They (Angels) did no stay within the limit of authority God gave them..."
This angels were giving roles and hierarchy by God but we're deceived by the devil who wanted a higher position himself by promising them a higher and better roles and authority more than the one God has given to them.
Compare it with Isaiah 14:13-14
[13]For you said to yourself,
    ‘I will ascend to heaven and set my throne above God’s stars.
I will preside on the mountain of the gods
    far away in the north.
[14]I will climb to the highest heavens
    and be like the Most High.’

Let me explain the later part...
"...God has kept them chained in prison of darkness waiting for the day of judgement"
Explanation
Instead of getting to that higher role,they find themselves demoted and chained(i.e restricted) to the worse and awaiting their judgement.
Compare it with
Isaiah 14:15,19
[15]Instead, you will be brought down to the place of the dead,
    down to its lowest depths.
[19]but you will be thrown out of your grave
    like a worthless branch.
Like a corpse trampled underfoot,
    you will be dumped into a mass grave
    with those killed in battle.
You will descend to the pit.
   

You went further to distort the story of the flood and Noah...let me ask u and ask ursef or ur teachers...
Why was Noah and his family spared?
Didn't he also carry the blood of those demons?
If he does,are we not all carry their blood?
If he doesn't,how can we prove dat and why did he have to preach for 100's of years...since others are carrying the blood of demons...why is God looking for way out for them...

Think man Think...don't be restrictive I always tell u...u av got potentials...but ur restricting ursef

Kobojunkie:
Again, Jesus Christ made it clear to you in John 6 vs 25 - 35 that instead of working to earn your living aka perishable bread, you are to instead work for bread that sustains to eternity which only He can give to you if you submit and obey Him.

Jesus Christ said those who love Him are those who continously submit to and obey His commandments. - John 14 vs 15 - 25 & John 15 vs 14

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The reason I show you Bible verses showing you what Jesus Christ Himself said is so you know His Truth from the many lies you seem to hold to as far as His Kingdom is concerned.

Should we work and earn money?
Yes or No...simple...are u afraid to defend ursef?
Yes or No

AYNL:
give unto Caesar what belongs to Caesar

I think this bible verse is being misinterpreted alot

Caesar was the leader of the Roman Govt at that time (so he represents govt) .They were to pay tribute money (tax, dues etc) to caesar.

God is God.

Pay govt dues to govt.

Pay God dues (tithe, offering, worship, praise, honour etc) to God.

Kobojunkie:
Administer what church, where Jesus?

Jesus Christ gave the same keys of the Kingdom to everyone of His followers, so?

yep he did,do you dispute the same Christ who said to Peter upon this rock I will build my church?

in his church in the scriptures Peter was called to oversee the administration after his resurrection, that keys of the kingdom is what gave Peter the right to receive revelation for the church in general ,one of those revelations was for the gospel to be preached to the gentiles and Paul was extended that calling by the hand of the presiding council of the church i.e Peter,James and John .

Not everyone in his church exercise these keys of the kingdom base on the mere fact that they accept Christ as their Lord and savior ,no way,that's chaotic, hence Hebrews 5:4 spells out how this is done,the calling of Paul to the ministry to the gentiles followed this pattern ,this keys of the kingdom refers to priesthood authority,Galatians 2:9 (The presiding council extending the call to Paul to the gentile after Peter received the revelation that it was time for the gospel to extended to those of non Jewish lineage ).

That church had several offices of responsibility to cater for his sheep ,yet one church one doctrine not denominations of any sort ,not ones of Paul or ones of Peter, nope one church one leader with Christ as the chief corner stone ,all these various offices of the priesthood were present in his church for the perfecting of the saints i.e they who have come into a covenant with God upon hearing the gospel of christ via baptism and receiving the gift of the holy ghost ,Acts 2:36-39,Ephesians 4:19-22,4:9-16.


A trip down history of the early saints will help you see the wonderful events that led to rise of various denominations ,it's beautiful.

You always show how confused you are!

MaxInDHouse:


In the beginning WAS the word and the word WAS with God and the word WAS God

From the above it's clear something is wrong due to John's use of WAS throughout

Instead of saying something is WRONG, you could have explained in details the usage of the verb WAS but I know your brain capacity isn't high for that.

which means the word worked with God but as he is penning down those words the word isn't God rather the word WAS God at some point in time.

If you have done little research on the usage of the verb WAS, you'd have saved yourself from this embarrassment.

[s]Moses WAS God at a point in time too Exodus 7:1 therefore if Moses worked with God in delivering Israel out of Egypt and WAS God while in Egypt it doesn't mean that Moses IS God rather he served as God at a point in time.[/s]

Irrelevant!

So the correct interpretation of that verse would be:

In the beginning WAS the word and the word WAS God and the word WAS a god/ divine/ godlike

Just look at the nonsense you spew in above

At least you can see how John patterned his statement with that of Adam and Eve.

You have shifted from your initial point of BOTH GOD when I gave you Bible expository

The use of capital for both God and the one with God makes no practical sense because all other verses afterwards shows that the word is God's messenger.

Thank you!

Another delusion, there's no CAPITAL LETTER in Greek

immaculatesense:

Should we work and earn money?
Yes or No...simple...are u afraid to defend ursef?
Yes or No

Again, Jesus Christ made it clear to you in John 6 vs 25 - 35 that instead of working to earn your living aka perishable bread, you are to instead work for bread that sustains to eternity which only He can give to you if you submit and obey Him.

Jesus Christ said those who love Him are those who continously submit to and obey His commandments. - John 14 vs 15 - 25 & John 15 vs 14

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The reason I show you Bible verses showing you what Jesus Christ Himself said is so you know His Truth from the many lies you seem to hold to as far as His Kingdom is concerned.

MaxInDHouse:


NO he learned from his father {John 14:31} but after the rebellion in the garden of Eden it's the son who pleaded in our behalf because humans are the most precious to Jesus after God used him to create all other things! Proverbs 8:22-31 compare to John 1:1

That's why God vowed in His anger that His wrath will be upon whoever ignore or disobey Jesus of Nazareth! John 3:16-18

May you have PEACE!

you are half wrong,Jesus did not beg God the father,he is the one who sent him.the God heads work in unison,one cannot say another thing .

RealEzee:
yep he did,do you dispute the same Christ who said to Peter upon this rock I will build my church?

As the other already informed you, Jesus Christ did not in fact mean that Peter was the rock on which His Church is built, this since the church is instead built on the teachings(and commandments) of Jesus Christ, the one who is described as the Vine - John 15 vs 1 - 11 where all His followers, including Peter , are branches directly off the vine.

Kobojunkie:
Again, Jesus Christ made it clear to you in John 6 vs 25 - 35 that instead of working to earn your living aka perishable bread, you are to instead work for bread that sustains to eternity which only He can give to you if you submit and obey Him.

Jesus Christ said those who love Him are those who continously submit to and obey His commandments. - John 14 vs 15 - 25 & John 15 vs 14

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The reason I show you Bible verses showing you what Jesus Christ Himself said is so you know His Truth from the many lies you seem to hold to as far as His Kingdom is concerned.

I give up on u man...

immaculatesense:

I give up on u man...

Again, Jesus Christ made it clear to you in John 6 vs 25 - 35 that instead of working to earn your living aka perishable bread, you are to instead work for bread that sustains to eternity which only He can give to you if you submit and obey Him.

Jesus Christ said those who love Him are those who continously submit to and obey His commandments. - John 14 vs 15 - 25 & John 15 vs 14

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The reason I show you Bible verses showing you what Jesus Christ Himself said is so you know His Truth from the many lies you seem to hold to as far as His Kingdom is concerned.

In the Old Testament, God permitted the Jews to physically fight and destroy those that made themselves enemies of God (only at His command).

But now, in the New Testament, Jesus came to reconcile all, including those that made themselves enemies of God (John 3:16). And so, we no longer wrestle against flesh and blood (fellow humans) but against principalities, against powers, against the rulers of the darkness of this world, against spiritual wickedness in high places. EPH 6:22

UyaiIncomparabl:
Explain this Bible verse for me.

akeeng:
“Stop drinking only water, and use a little wine because of your stomach and your frequent illnesses.” - 1 Timothy 5:23

This instruction of Paul to Timothy was a "medical advice". It was not a call to drunkenness or consumation of strong drink. Even some present day medicines contain some kind of alcohol ,perhaps responsible for diziness. It's purely medicinal when precribed...outside that...it is drug abuse, self medication.

jafaru196:
you are half wrong,Jesus did not beg God the father,he is the one who sent him.the God heads work in unison,one cannot say another thing .

Argue with what the Bible says i'm through with you!

udoh2k:


This instruction of Paul to Timothy was a "medical advice". It was not a call to drunkenness or consumation of strong drink. Even some present day medicines contain some kind of alcohol ,perhaps responsible for diziness. It's purely medicinal when precribed...outside that...it is drug abuse, self medication.

Dear udoh2k
May I ask...which passage of the Bible ask us not to drink alcohol or strong drink...cos I av read through the scriptures and the only thing I see is warning against getting DRUNK..
Cos even Jesus Christ drinks Alcohol (since the definition of wine contains anytin that has alcohol) wine
/wʌɪn/
noun
an alcoholic drink made from fermented grape juice.

What do u think about this verse
Read Luke 7:33-34
[33]For John the Baptist didn’t spend his time eating bread or drinking wine, and you say, ‘He’s possessed by a demon.’
[34]The Son of Man, on the other hand, feasts and drinks, and you say, ‘He’s a glutton and a drunkard, and a friend of tax collectors and other sinners!’

Any question?

MaxInDHouse:


The secret is that most trinitarians themselves don't know what they're worshiping {John 4:22} trinity is the initiative of Satan the devil and Satan make sure he exterminated all the Apostles before introducing trinity {Revelations 17:5-6} since it doesn't make any sense the concept must be enforced otherwise trinitarians can't preach and convince a single soul. That's why Jesus called trinity a harlot because the concept needs the support of politicians and military services to push it to places since those involved are arrogant and they don't know how to convince people. Revelations 17:1-2

So they're using weapons to intimidate people everywhere they go in the name of CRUSADES.
That's what the British brought to Africa not CHRISTIANITY because Christians have to PREACH (PLEAD) with their neighbours before you can convince them about God's Kingdom! Matt 10:11-13

You will notice how fierce trinitarians becomes each time they come across anyone that speak against their meaningless concept. Well it's not their fault that's exactly how the religion was forced on our people back then, trinitarians came with colonialism forcing their religion on people not preaching zealously from house to house!

I don't know what's your meaning of trinity.

But I have seen in the Bible where:

The Word of God is called God. Capital G.
The Spirit of God is called God. Capital G.
And God Himself is called God. Capital G.

And yet only one God.

Meaning the Word of His mouth is a living 'Being'.

The Spirit in Him is a living 'Being'.

See 1John5:7

immaculatesense:

(1) Why was Noah and his family spared?

(2)Didn't he also carry the blood of those demons?

(3)If he does,are we not all carry their blood?

Guy i've told you that you and i aren't on the same page so if you have any question just go ahead and ask, if not hold onto whatever you want i'm not a worshiper of your God.

Your three questions:

(1) Noah and his family didn't become violent like other humans.
Due to the way the giant sons of angels were causing trouble everywhere most people also became violent to combat the violent giants but instead of joining them Noah became a preacher {2Peter 2:5} so God looked down from heaven and Noah and his family were approved for salvation!

(2) No the giants were born by fallen angels but there were male humans too like Noah married with their own children they're the ones Noah preached to not the fallen angels or their violent giant children!

(3) He was 100% human that's why all his descendants were humans.
Let me give you a gist:
Have you heard of Ọmọlúàbí before?
Well the Yorùbá people learned from history that after the destruction of evil people only Lúà (Noah) and his descendants were virtuous that's why they always refer to virtuous people as "Ọmọ tí Lúà bí"

Just calm down and learn!

udoh2k:


I don't know what's your meaning of trinity.

But I have seen in the Bible where:

The Word of God is called God. Capital G.
The Spirit of God is called God. Capital G.
And God Himself is called God. Capital G.

And yet only one God.

Meaning the Word of His mouth is a living 'Being'.

The Spirit in Him is a living 'Being'.

See 1John5:7

By their FRUITS you will know them! Matthew 7:16

What's the fruit of TRINITY worship in the human society?

Kabikala:
*And I tell you, you are Peter, and on this rock I will build my church, and the powers of death shall not prevail against it.*
Matthew 16: 18. RSV.

Many Christians believe that Jesus was inferring that he was going to build his church on Peter, his disciple.

I don't think so.
Jesus would not predicate the entirety of his divine assignment on another human with frailties. Even when that person would deny him a short while later.
I believe Jesus' statement was that his church would be built on that powerful statement uttered by Peter in the earlier verse:
*Simon Peter replied, “You are the Christ, the Son of the living God.”*
Matthew 16:16 RSV

This makes more sense to me. Many Bible scholars think so too.

The confusion is that Peter means stone. Jesus is the Rock (a bigger Stone). So Jesus may be saying, although you are a stone, but I will build my church on this bigger Stone (Himself). He must have demonstrated with His hands...either pointing at Peter or pointing at Himself (we were not there).

I nevertheless go by ur explanation.

Emusan:


The word is God!

Greek 1510 "WAS" without definite article at John 10:33, Acts 28:6, Acts 12:22, "was a god".
Four scriptural evidences & examples & more which your fellow Trinitarians agreed.

Wayo Trinitarian dubiously put "is" wey no deh him Bible at John 1:1

Emusan:


John pictures that with the story of Adam and Eve in the garden.

Let me give you small Bible study on that.

Firstly, The first COUPLE lived alone in the Garden. The two are to be viewed as ONE
>>>Gen 2:24 - In the garden, two persons, the man and the woman, "became one flesh"

Wayo Trinitarian posting faulty analogy.

Did your Bible tell you Adam and Eve is one being?
John 10:30 & John 4:24, did Jesus Christ tell is one being?

Your Friend OLAADEGBU said "Jesus is Jehovah".
1 Corinthians 11:3 Greek: "the God is Head of Christ, the man is head of woman".
Do you agree?

Emusan:


>>>Gen 5:1-2
"God created man" (singular)
"He made him" (singular)
"Named them man" (singular)
Yet it says:
"He created THEM male and female" (plural)
"He blessed THEM" (plural)
"and Named THEM" (plural)
"They were created" (plural)

NOTE: The name EVE wasn't given to the woman not until after the fall, so both Male and the female were collectively called MAN.

Genesis 5:1 references only Adam.
Genesis 5:2,"so both Male and the female were collectively called MAN"
Yes !
Did God ever tell Emusan that Adam and Eve is one being?
Why do you claim that 2 entities, Jesus & his Father is one being?
Did God collectively call his son & himself by one name as he called Adam and Eve "Man"?
No !
Oga, your fake analogy goes to the dustbin.

Emusan:

Secondly, Gen 1:26-27
"Let us make man" (singular)
"God created man" (singular)
"He created him" (singular)

In contrast the same text also says:
"....let them rule" (plural)
"Male and female he created THEM" (plural)

Genesis 1:26 "Let us make man" references only Adam.
Why?
Genesis 1:27, "And God went on to create the man (Adam),in God's image He created him (Adam).

Genesis 2:20-21 Eve was an afterthought.
"The man" Adam, did you see it?

Emusan:


Lastly, Jesus refers to the first couple and after stating "they were one flesh" adds "they are no longer two"

In line of this, would it be wise to say: In the garden was the woman, the woman was with the man and the woman was A MAN?

Intellectual mind knows this is a wrong rendition because it will put the woman as A MALE which will be confused as the FIRST MALE.

So the best way to understand that even though both the male and the female were both collectively called "MAN" "them" e.t.c is to render it as: In the garden was the woman, the woman was with the man and the woman was MAN

Here intellectual mind knows that the woman was addressed as MAN per her NATURE.

So John 1:1 shows two separate persons with one NATURE (God).

Do you understand?

Bible study 101

Emusan,Why do you like to deceive yourself?
Genesis 1:26-27, is Eve "the Man"?
No way !
Genesis 1:27" ;DThe Man" Adam ! Full stop.
The woman is not "the Man" Adam.
The woman is a man By nature.

Likewise,"the Word was with the God (his Father, ho Theos) recall,Adam is "the Man" not Eve).
Likewise,"the word is a god" like God,godlike, divine by nature.

By nature ,the word resembles God.
By nature, the woman resembles Man.
Na JWs ,Emphatic Diaglott, James Moffat,Sahidic Coptic truly understand John 1:1

MaxInDHouse:


Argue with what the Bible says i'm through with you!

John 3:16 , reads: “For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life.” who sent him there ?.
john 5:19 Then answered Jesus and said unto them, Verily, verily, I say unto you, The Son can do nothing of himself, but what he seeth the Father do: for what things soever he doeth, these also doeth the Son likewise.
john 10:13 I and my father are one.
There is nothing Jesus did that was not the will of the father