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Re: Jesus Christ Is A Creation Of The Roman Empire by OkCornel(m): 6:37pm On Jul 02, 2022 |
KnownUnknown: If you don’t know the difference between a Semite and a Caucasian, I guess you’re in the same group with them. |
Re: Jesus Christ Is A Creation Of The Roman Empire by KnownUnknown: 6:42pm On Jul 02, 2022 |
OkCornel: I don’t need to argue with Ms. Kramarik nor Mr. Burpo (and his Pastor father). A girl paints a picture of a white man in Chicago and calls it Jesus while a pastor writes a book claiming his son went to heaven. Only gullible people believe such. But you people have been mentally enslaved for a while so I know I’m just pissing in the wind. Enjoy your Chicago Jesus. At least they can depict their god in their own image while y’all are seemingly incapable of such a simple task. |
Re: Jesus Christ Is A Creation Of The Roman Empire by KnownUnknown: 6:46pm On Jul 02, 2022 |
OkCornel: What is a Semite? What is a Caucasian? Arbitrary classifications that have no basis in reality. |
Re: Jesus Christ Is A Creation Of The Roman Empire by OkCornel(m): 6:49pm On Jul 02, 2022 |
KnownUnknown: I guess the several thousands out there corroborating same experience from their NDEs are delusional too. Wonderful. Anyways, not to derail this thread, we are discussing THE EXISTENCE OF JESUS CHRIST. If you want to talk more on the picture, there are multiple threads on this platform this has been discussed. Don’t distract me |
Re: Jesus Christ Is A Creation Of The Roman Empire by KnownUnknown: 6:50pm On Jul 02, 2022 |
OkCornel: “Semite” or “Caucasian”. He could have been “mongoloid” for all I care but that doesn’t prove that he could walk on water or committed pseudo-suicide on your behalf. |
Re: Jesus Christ Is A Creation Of The Roman Empire by OkCornel(m): 6:51pm On Jul 02, 2022 |
KnownUnknown: Can we stay on the topic of this thread? EXISTENCE. |
Re: Jesus Christ Is A Creation Of The Roman Empire by KnownUnknown: 6:55pm On Jul 02, 2022 |
OkCornel: NDE’s are not evidence of anything but a brain under stress. I wouldn’t call them delusional just like I wouldn’t call people who ascribe meaning to dreams as delusional. Just mistaken and superstitious. OkCornel: Yeah, that dude didn’t exist either. Maybe Yeshua existed but a thousand and one Yeshuas have existed but that doesn’t mean one of them was the “son of god”. |
Re: Jesus Christ Is A Creation Of The Roman Empire by KnownUnknown: 6:56pm On Jul 02, 2022 |
OkCornel: If he existed he’s been dead for 2000 years. |
Re: Jesus Christ Is A Creation Of The Roman Empire by OkCornel(m): 7:01pm On Jul 02, 2022 |
KnownUnknown: Whatever |
Re: Jesus Christ Is A Creation Of The Roman Empire by OkCornel(m): 7:03pm On Jul 02, 2022 |
KnownUnknown: Yeshua the elder brother of James and Jude. Born of Mary and executed by Pontius Pilate. The one whose followers were blamed for the great fire of Rome in 64AD That is the specific character we’re discussing here. Thanks Or are you aware of other Yeshuas that fit into the above description? |
Re: Jesus Christ Is A Creation Of The Roman Empire by KnownUnknown: 7:14pm On Jul 02, 2022 |
OkCornel: Okay, do we know the surname of this Yeshua who had a brother with the English name of James? |
Re: Jesus Christ Is A Creation Of The Roman Empire by KnownUnknown: 7:14pm On Jul 02, 2022 |
OkCornel: What, people don’t die? |
Re: Jesus Christ Is A Creation Of The Roman Empire by KnownUnknown: 7:26pm On Jul 02, 2022 |
“”What harm would it do, if a man told a good strong lie for the sake of the good and for the Christian church ... a lie out of necessity, a useful lie, a helpful lie, such lies would not be against God, he would accept them.“- Martin Luther OkCornel, he wasn’t the first “man of god” to have such thoughts. Your Josephus evidence could be the same or they could be authentic. What’s probable? |
Re: Jesus Christ Is A Creation Of The Roman Empire by budaatum: 7:30pm On Jul 02, 2022 |
KnownUnknown: As you can see, it's up to the individual what they choose to believe. And in honour of Pride, I will add, so long as they don’t do it in the street and frighten the horses or harm anyone. For Shango, the consensus seems to be that he was a real person who existed at some point though everyone is free to believe what they may, but as for "obvious incredible and improbable claim", as I said, budaatum: Oh. And nice try trying to drag me into the irrelevant arguement about the inconsequential existence of Jesus Christ, and Sango! 1 Like 1 Share |
Re: Jesus Christ Is A Creation Of The Roman Empire by TNORWAY: 7:35pm On Jul 02, 2022 |
OkCornel:sir Please ignore anyone that doesn't want to learn. 1 Like 1 Share |
Re: Jesus Christ Is A Creation Of The Roman Empire by OkCornel(m): 7:51pm On Jul 02, 2022 |
KnownUnknown: Yeshua Ben Yosef (the Carpenter), born of Miriam, elder brother of Ya’koub (James) and Thaddaeus (Jude) If the Hebrew names make you more comfortable, I’ve included them. |
Re: Jesus Christ Is A Creation Of The Roman Empire by budaatum: 7:53pm On Jul 02, 2022 |
MindHacker9009: Please, but "if we" who? Were you not told not to put your hands in the fire, MindHacker9009? Did you put your hand in the fire or not? I did, so I can't possibly be "if we", to start with. MindHacker9009:It is my own opinion that the reason people believe is because they lack the information that would constitute knowledge to them. Consider: The reason to believe rain is falling on my head is simply due to my ignorance of what may be falling on my head. By looking up to the sky I will reduce my ignorance and know if it is rain that is falling or if someone is pissing on my head. I may believe I have a million pounds in my pocket but I would need to take it out of my pocket and count it so I may know it is a million pounds before I go to buy a Ferrari with it unless I am not complete in the head. A possibly fictional person is written to have said, “Ask and it will be given to you; seek and you will find; knock and the door will be opened to you. For everyone who asks receives; the one who seeks finds; and to the one who knocks, the door will be opened". As you may see, "everyone" is not "we", as some will ask and knock and seek in the the sky and in my pocket so one may know instead of ignorantly creating or allowing crap to be created in one's own head and believing it. 1 Like 1 Share |
Re: Jesus Christ Is A Creation Of The Roman Empire by OkCornel(m): 7:53pm On Jul 02, 2022 |
Re: Jesus Christ Is A Creation Of The Roman Empire by budaatum: 8:01pm On Jul 02, 2022 |
KnownUnknown: See what you've listed as the things in the Bible in which you seek for truth, KnownUnknown. Can you consider that others might see different things to what you see for starts, or do you think everyone sees equally? What if I tell you there is more than that in the Bible that could be considered to be true. And no, I do not mean your narrow definition of truth but at least this much of it. |
Re: Jesus Christ Is A Creation Of The Roman Empire by KnownUnknown: 8:11pm On Jul 02, 2022 |
budaatum: Budaatum, what is the “truth” about Jesus Christ in the Bible was the question. budaatum: Posting a Wikipedia article does not answer the simple question asked. |
Re: Jesus Christ Is A Creation Of The Roman Empire by KnownUnknown: 8:13pm On Jul 02, 2022 |
OkCornel: Nice, except you should have changed Jude to Judas not Thaddeus. Where did you get that his name was Yeshua Ben Yosef and how do you know he was a carpenter? |
Re: Jesus Christ Is A Creation Of The Roman Empire by KnownUnknown: 8:18pm On Jul 02, 2022 |
OkCornel: I was in Mesopotamia along the banks of the Euphrates. I met a 946 year old androgynous being with the visage of a 21 year old. They are immortal. |
Re: Jesus Christ Is A Creation Of The Roman Empire by OkCornel(m): 8:21pm On Jul 02, 2022 |
KnownUnknown: His father Joseph was a carpenter. Yeshua Ben Yosef means (Jesus son of Joseph) Jude (Judas) also bears Thaddeus. |
Re: Jesus Christ Is A Creation Of The Roman Empire by OkCornel(m): 8:21pm On Jul 02, 2022 |
KnownUnknown: Okay, good for you |
Re: Jesus Christ Is A Creation Of The Roman Empire by OkCornel(m): 8:26pm On Jul 02, 2022 |
KnownUnknown: Lol NDE is evidence of brain under stress? I pray tell, why don’t mentally stressed people have NDEs by default? An average Nigerian in this Buhari regime should have NDEs on a daily basis hmmm? |
Re: Jesus Christ Is A Creation Of The Roman Empire by OkCornel(m): 8:28pm On Jul 02, 2022 |
KnownUnknown: Semite (Iranians, Iraqis, Israelites for example) Caucasian (white Europeans and Americans) |
Re: Jesus Christ Is A Creation Of The Roman Empire by KnownUnknown: 8:29pm On Jul 02, 2022 |
OkCornel: So Yosef, a carpenter in ancient Judea, had a son named Yeshua. Is that tradition or history? Also, if I follow your argument does it mean Yeshua was an ordinary man with a father named Yosef? OkCornel: It appears Thaddeus is Greek so maybe it should be Judas Taddai? Also, tradition says Thaddeus is one of the 12 and not the brother. |
Re: Jesus Christ Is A Creation Of The Roman Empire by KnownUnknown: 8:35pm On Jul 02, 2022 |
OkCornel: Other than Eurocentric types and their disingenuous classifications, none of these “semites” consider themselves whatever Semite is supposed to be. Read for yourself. https://www.myjewishlearning.com/article/who-are-the-semites/amp/ OkCornel: What is a white European and where are they from? Are there other types of Europeans apart from the white ones? Are those also “Caucasian”. |
Re: Jesus Christ Is A Creation Of The Roman Empire by MindHacker9009(m): 8:37pm On Jul 02, 2022 |
@budaatum People were told that a certain man could disappear in the 80s and they all believed until he was caught and he was not able to disappear. So your response below is not relevant. budaatum: |
Re: Jesus Christ Is A Creation Of The Roman Empire by OkCornel(m): 8:42pm On Jul 02, 2022 |
KnownUnknown: It’s history, Yosef the Father of Yeshua was a Carpenter. My bad, Yehudah is the Hebrew name for Jude. |
Re: Jesus Christ Is A Creation Of The Roman Empire by OkCornel(m): 8:43pm On Jul 02, 2022 |
KnownUnknown: For goodness sake, check the nations which descended from Shem. Japheth is the ancestor of the Europeans. |
Re: Jesus Christ Is A Creation Of The Roman Empire by KnownUnknown: 8:49pm On Jul 02, 2022 |
OkCornel: Yes it is, what is so funny about that?!. Is a “near death experience” not a stressful event? OkCornel: A brain under stress also include medical emergencies or is that not apparent?! Is the brain of a person on an emergency table under stress? OkCornel: Im sure some that have had medical emergencies that led to the loss of consciousness would have experienced NDE event. |
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