krissconnect:
These past weeks, I've been reaching out to my friends who are abroad to help me with links or advices to move abroad too. But I discovered that none of them decided to help, instead they discouraged me either by saying, "it's difficult to move now or the country isn't issuing visa now".

One of my guy in CANADA defiantly ignored my text when I asked him for links or the route he used to move, the other in Korea said the country isn't issuing visa now but he recently moved back and another directly said that it's very hard to get visas now to travel. But one Asian American in the States gave me lots of links to move to the State and even encouraged me to move.

But then I don't understand why our African brothers over there will never encourage or advice someone willing to move. Is it envy or greediness or what? I've never had any of my guy abroad encourage me to move when I asked for advice. If things are difficult over there, why not come home?

NB: I never asked them for fund cos the money is available.

Navalsadiq:
stop misleading people.you don't need 5m to 10m.some schools in the UK and other European countries accept installemental payment. you can afford to go with three thousand pounds and in your first and second week get a good paying job while you school and make installemental payment.

AntiTerrorist:

But then I don't understand why our African brothers over there will never encourage or advice someone willing to move. Is it envy or greediness or what? I've never had any of my guy abroad encourage me to move when I asked for advice. If things are difficult over there, why not come home?

krissconnect:
These past weeks, I've been reaching out to my friends who are abroad to help me with links or advices to move abroad too. But I discovered that none of them decided to help, instead they discouraged me either by saying, "it's difficult to move now or the country isn't issuing visa now".

One of my guy in CANADA defiantly ignored my text when I asked him for links or the route he used to move, the other in Korea said the country isn't issuing visa now but he recently moved back and another directly said that it's very hard to get visas now to travel. But one Asian American in the States gave me lots of links to move to the State and even encouraged me to move.

But then I don't understand why our African brothers over there will never encourage or advice someone willing to move. Is it envy or greediness or what? I've never had any of my guy abroad encourage me to move when I asked for advice. If things are difficult over there, why not come home?

NB: I never asked them for fund cos the money is available.

casualobserver:


With your kind of mindset, I’m not surprised they don’t answer you. The truth is you people think because someone is abroad they can solve your problems, they can’t. Most people are abroad are trying to sort themselves out.

Because a man is abroad does not mean he can get you a visa or a job so what exactly is it you expect him to do for you?

Fiscus105:



And u think, it's easy like that to relocate legally?

na2016:


Abroad isn't really easy. It is not meant for everyone. If you have a good job in Naija, stay there.

krissconnect:
These past weeks, I've been reaching out to my friends who are abroad to help me with links or advices to move abroad too. But I discovered that none of them decided to help, instead they discouraged me either by saying, "it's difficult to move now or the country isn't issuing visa now".

One of my guy in CANADA defiantly ignored my text when I asked him for links or the route he used to move, the other in Korea said the country isn't issuing visa now but he recently moved back and another directly said that it's very hard to get visas now to travel. But one Asian American in the States gave me lots of links to move to the State and even encouraged me to move.

But then I don't understand why our African brothers over there will never encourage or advice someone willing to move. Is it envy or greediness or what? I've never had any of my guy abroad encourage me to move when I asked for advice. If things are difficult over there, why not come home?

NB: I never asked them for fund cos the money is available.

ednut1:
jealous of There are many countries not issuing visas to Nigerians. When last did you see anyone going to usa on visit visa when compared to like 4 years ago.If you think they are lying go to the embassy website and apply. Person fit dey suffer abroad and u expect them to tell you to come . Can a nigerian get work permit in dubai today No. Some countries in Europe have quota for Nigeria study visa these days. What if you friend went when there was no quota. No one owes you anything. Find your own way

krissconnect:

And I said no, I don't live in lagos

Ukwunu:
Use that Money to start business in Nigeria ...And Thank Me later, Abroad is not Easy Now Especially We Africans(We regarded third class everywhere)Now they prefer Ukraine Refuge,Ukraine Refugees Taking the little work we use to Manage.......Stay Home Water where Ur are?

AnthonyAk:


It’s hard everywhere, it’s not like when we were younger weren’t can say come and squat in my place till you find ur feet.

One’s Canadian experience will greatly be determined by what one studied in school here. If you come here with a back door it’s back door things you will be doing your entire time.

If you come here correctly with the right resources , you will enjoy it and settle nicely

ednut1:
unfortunatey you dont know how visit visa works these days. Your cousins invite wont have helped in getting visa. You would have been judged by your circumstances in Nigeria and probability of coming back which clearly you weren’t coming back. For many countries unless its for a parent to child kind of visit they wont read your invite letter so its pretty much useless in this your case. Like i said things have changed. He could get into trouble self harbouring you illegally in some countries. This life na everyone for himself o

Jaqenhghar:

True. Once you are go getter with a solid plan you'll get there. It may not be easy at first but you will get there.

Raregem9000:
Find his own way? Remember, we rise by lifting others up. I experienced same thing the poster was saying three years ago. I have a cousin who lives abroad. He has been there for a decade now and i only asked him to just help with an invite while i pay for every money that will be spent and i will work things out when i get there. Note: I'm paying for everything. This my cousin kept on giving me stories like it's not easy there that i shouldn't come. He even said i should use the money i had with me to start a business in Nigeria instead of coming there. I was like why are you still there if it's not easy? I just bone him and block him on every social platforms. A year after, i went to an agent to help on a Canadian Visa but i was duped. I'm looking forward to doing all by myself when i'm ready to go on the adventure again without involving any agent and when the soup is done, i would unblock that my cousin, so that he can see that what he failed to help me with has been achieved.

Memeni:
Because Africans and in particular Nigerians are greedy, wicked, and stingy and filled with jealousy. The heart of Nigerians are desperately wicked to their fellow Africans that's why you hear them saying "don't come to America or Canada because it's snowy, it's cold" and all manner of gibberish but they themselves will never switch places with you if you present them with that choice or help others to migrate from the gutter to a civilized society. Rubbish

krissconnect:
These past weeks, I've been reaching out to my friends who are abroad to help me with links or advices to move abroad too. But I discovered that none of them decided to help, instead they discouraged me either by saying, "it's difficult to move now or the country isn't issuing visa now".

One of my guy in CANADA defiantly ignored my text when I asked him for links or the route he used to move, the other in Korea said the country isn't issuing visa now but he recently moved back and another directly said that it's very hard to get visas now to travel. But one Asian American in the States gave me lots of links to move to the State and even encouraged me to move.

But then I don't understand why our African brothers over there will never encourage or advice someone willing to move. Is it envy or greediness or what? I've never had any of my guy abroad encourage me to move when I asked for advice. If things are difficult over there, why not come home?

NB: I never asked them for fund cos the money is available.

okeysoninv:
throw away that trash, live is easy abroad, alot are making it within few months , landing. the bills are not up to 30%. a couple left few years ago to UK with a loan obtained , within six months they have recovered all their expenses they spent and even paid all the loans collected. within a year they brought one relative to UK. surround yourself with positive people , stop following badbelle Nigerians

dayleke:


That's exactly what the argument is all about that the OP does not understand.

okeysoninv:
oga speak facts. are you calling them a failure ..did you paid their visa, tickets and PTA.

jesmond3945:
but the indian community are helping each other even with hardship. Nigerian community is the worst, is all about competition.

jesmond3945:

I am currenty helping 2 people to migrate. I gave 2 nigerian jobs in Uk. The job I am doing, a Nigerian linked me up. There are threads in travel section that literally helped people who want to migrate. Look at the indian community in abroad. 11 people live in one house. I told my wife to accomodate one family to split bills she refused. Nigerian community in abroad is the worst ever. Go to phrankleen youtube channel and read more.

okeysoninv:
oga , 2-3k is big money because you can't pick it on ground. people earning it are living well, saving and building investment.

somehow:


I'm assuming you can read with comprehension

Now go back to my first post, digest it for better understanding.

Fiscus105:
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Some relocate legally but still not be able to work, (studying, visiting, tourism, medical etc)

Op think abroad na naija, that anything goes.


If u re not Doctor or Nurse, it takes grace of God to give you legal visa to work thre.

That bank manager might left Nigeria courtesy of any of visa application I listed above, hence difficult in finding job.


A woman bank manager now working as a cleaner, separate with husband and children?

I can never do that

casualobserver:


What exactly do you mean by encourage? Let me explain it to you as someone who has a British passport has live abroad for many years but returned home.

The truth is life over there is a sort of bondage for someone with a Nigerian mindset. You are constantly working to pay bills , no matter how much you earn your expenses rise such that you are a slave to your job, the system entraps you in ways I can’t describe here for sake of brevity, unless you are amongst the few who can establish a means of income in the multiples of hundreds of thousands be it dollars be it pounds. Otherwise yes you will eat well and enjoy certain basics that may not be available in Nigeria for most Nigerians but there are many negative intangibles especially for someone raised in Nigeria.

Unless you are a high paying job, $100-200k + life is not a bed of roses. Even at that level you are struggling but can afford things to mitigate the struggles like holidays back home or other destinations. In theory you will be better off than in Nigeria initially but life is such that once you overcome the basic sufferings back in Nigeria, the intangible negatives start to matter. I am back in Nigeria and I wouldn’t go back. I am lucky I can travel out when I am tired of Nigeria but I will never again live abroad….unless I am forced to. With all the problems of Nigeria, there is no place like home. There is a sense of freedom and self worth in Nigeria you have that you lose when you go abroad, that’s one of the intangibles I talk about. No matter what you will always be a nobody abroad….that’s another!!!

Would I encourage anyone to move abroad. It’s a hard question because you will pay a huge psychological price for moving abroad, one you will not understand until you get there and one I can never explain to you until you have experienced it. What I would say is, if you want to go abroad, have a mission and come back with if 5 years!!! I won’t encourage or discourage anyone!!! I wouldn’t actively encourage anyone because I don’t want to be the one responsible for selling you a dream that will not match your reality!!!!

airsaylongcome:


Rent for a decent place abroad is like $1k5 to $2k. You dey convert am to Naira na why you dey see am as big money. A road sweeper abroad is poor

GeneralPula:
It’s harder to make it over there than in Nigeria, except you’re extremely lucky..

Bills too much. My brother stays in Texas. He lived inside trailer for more 10 years before being able to secure an affordable home

Life became more easy when he met his baby mama, a Latina from Brazil. Both working and helping each other which makes it more easy..

Now, if I wanna travel there, it won’t be very hard for me to navigate, unlike somebody that has nobody living there..

Some other things I can’t talk about. Reality is it’s not easy anywhere around the world except you’re extremely lucky..

Greatzeus:

Because they have been hit with the reality of life over there. In contrast to the dreams of flashiness they thought they were going to meet
See bro,you might travel and things will work for you easily than they told you,that doesn't mean they were lying or trying to discourage you,they were just being sincere.

humberjade:
Never for once have I experienced power failure, shey na better health care we wan mention, or as I walk freely anytime of the day without fear (leave home for work 3am fearlessly), no police harassment, no banditry or armed robbery. Although you can't rule out pockets of these crimes, but it has never happened to me. So in all ramifications, living abroad (better countries o) outweighs living in naija right now. But sha, there is no place like home, nah naija you fit truly flex your wealth wey you gather abroad.

Whenever you move, just make sure it is done legitimately. Bro, you don't want to end up as an illegal immigrant (i.e, over staying). I would suggest you move to whatever country you want to move to as a student; that's the easiest way to migrate these days, others are tedious and expensive. Except of course you are in the medical line. Just be sure to have some sellable skills, preferably IT related, or basic skills like manicure and pedicure, barbing and hair dressing (just that all my female friends dey rock low cut now ). Don't travel empty without a skill. And pray for divine favour too.

Now, those who are discouraging you have their different reasons for doing so. For example, on the streets of Berlin for example, I daily run into some of our African people on different stages of madness. While some are making it, some aren't so fortunate, and when one succumbs to the frustration, insanity sets in.

Whichever country you enter, make sure you are legit, pray that God directs your path to meet people that would direct your path (show you the way), don't get carried away, hustle when you still have strength in your bones, find time to blow off steam at interval, and with God on your side, it will be all smiles down the road.

I was fortunate to land in the hands of kind people, who despite what they went through before settling down, welcomed me with both arms and showed me the way. Without them, it would have been hell. And I also met people who didn't want to help, one even said he went through hell, as such, we too should follow the same process, imagine!

I wish you the very best in your quest to relocate abroad. Don't be discouraged.

casualobserver:


What exactly do you mean by encourage? Let me explain it to you as someone who has a British passport has live abroad for many years but returned home.

The truth is life over there is a sort of bondage for someone with a Nigerian mindset. You are constantly working to pay bills , no matter how much you earn your expenses rise such that you are a slave to your job, the system entraps you in ways I can’t describe here for sake of brevity, unless you are amongst the few who can establish a means of income in the multiples of hundreds of thousands be it dollars be it pounds. Otherwise yes you will eat well and enjoy certain basics that may not be available in Nigeria for most Nigerians but there are many negative intangibles especially for someone raised in Nigeria.

Unless you are a high paying job, $100-200k + life is not a bed of roses. Even at that level you are struggling but can afford things to mitigate the struggles like holidays back home or other destinations. In theory you will be better off than in Nigeria initially but life is such that once you overcome the basic sufferings back in Nigeria, the intangible negatives start to matter. I am back in Nigeria and I wouldn’t go back. I am lucky I can travel out when I am tired of Nigeria but I will never again live abroad….unless I am forced to. With all the problems of Nigeria, there is no place like home. There is a sense of freedom and self worth in Nigeria you have that you lose when you go abroad, that’s one of the intangibles I talk about. No matter what you will always be a nobody abroad….that’s another!!!

Would I encourage anyone to move abroad. It’s a hard question because you will pay a huge psychological price for moving abroad, one you will not understand until you get there and one I can never explain to you until you have experienced it. What I would say is, if you want to go abroad, have a mission and come back with if 5 years!!! I won’t encourage or discourage anyone!!! I wouldn’t actively encourage anyone because I don’t want to be the one responsible for selling you a dream that will not match your reality!!!!

okeysoninv:
ask them to come back, they will abruptly refuse