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Re: The Son Is Superior To Angels by cornelboy(f): 12:15am On Jul 18, 2022 |
Jokerman:Are you not a trinitarian? Like Trinitarians says they are equal. |
Re: The Son Is Superior To Angels by MaxInDHouse(m): 4:06am On Jul 18, 2022 |
Jokerman: There are many angels who serves a Princes in the heavenly realms and Michael is the topmost. Satan must be one of them because he also control a group of angels but Raphael and Uriel aren't mentioned in God's word so they are demons! 1 Like |
Re: The Son Is Superior To Angels by MaxInDHouse(m): 4:19am On Jul 18, 2022 |
Jokerman: All Jewish names or titles has meaning: Ehohim is a title and short form (El) means "God" JEHOVAH is a name short form (Jah) means "He causes to become" Emmanuel is a name means "with us is God" Jesus is a name means "Jehovah is Salvation" But it's when Michael was still in heaven with other angels that he bears the name "Michael" {Daniel 12:1-3} his name became "Jesus" when he was transformed into a human, it was his performance that signifies the name "Emmanuel" because with his presence among the Jews they felt God's presence in their midst. Other titles given to this child: Wonderful Counselor: one whose counsel is best throughout the history of mankind even greater than Solomon who was known to be the wisest of all men. Mighty God: one who is mighty like a God. Everlasting Father: one who replaces Adam our dead father. Prince of Peace: one who will restore peace on the earth permanently. 1 Like |
Re: The Son Is Superior To Angels by Emusan(m): 9:44am On Jul 20, 2022 |
Janosky: But you lied the other time that there's ONLY one archangel See JaNosenses, there's no amount of your lies that can cover up your delusion on this forum. So actually, THERE ARE MANY archangels that means Jesus can't be an Angel. Another doctrine in the drain 1 Like |
Re: The Son Is Superior To Angels by Emusan(m): 9:56am On Jul 20, 2022 |
MaxInDHouse: That's why I do say you lack scriptural knowledge. The word translated as ARCH means "FIRST, CHIEF" But in Daniel 10:13 "One of the CHIEF PRINCES..." Meaning there are MANY CHIEF/ARCH princes You must learn 1 Like |
Re: The Son Is Superior To Angels by MaxInDHouse(m): 10:22am On Jul 20, 2022 |
Emusan: So there's no other angel called the archangel throughout the Bible except Michael. Thanks Sir! |
Re: The Son Is Superior To Angels by Emusan(m): 10:26am On Jul 20, 2022 |
MaxInDHouse: You're still displaying your lack of comprehension. Micheal is ONE OF THE CHIEF/ARCH PRINCES (Angels) Must you be spoonfed like a baby all the time? Ok let me put it this way MaxinDhouse is ONE of The Jehovah witnesses. At least this is how you do introduce yourself on this forum. Does that make you MaxinDhouse THE ONLY Jehovah witness? Learn..... |
Re: The Son Is Superior To Angels by MaxInDHouse(m): 11:06am On Jul 20, 2022 |
Emusan: When under inspiration John wrote: "In THE beginning was THE Word, and THE Word was with God, and THE Word was God" Why don't you conclude that there were many more WORDS of God? Isn't it clear that using "THE" signify the only ONE? Beginning took place ONCE so the word is ONE person also. Now that Jude under inspiration wrote: "THE Archangel" not "AN archangel" you want to change facts shey? Well there are many angelic sons close to the father in heaven and Michael is the foremost of them all that's why Daniel referred to him as the great Prince {Daniel 12:1} and Isaiah called him the Prince of Peace {Isaiah 9:6} because only Michael is cool headed unlike the others. We can see that when God sent Gabriel (one of the Princes) to Zechariah inside the most holy inside the temple. Gabriel revealed his personality telling the man that he is the angel who is standing before God Almighty {Luke 1:19} then Gabriel out of provocation told Zechariah that he will not be able to speak again until what he revealed to him happens! Luke 1:20 But why did this angelic Prince strike the man with dumbness? Well it's because no human enters the most holy apart from the high priest in Israel so for Zechariah to have seen a man in that place it means such a man is not ordinary but an angel. So because Zechariah doubted this powerful spirit being he cursed Zechariah and made him dumb! No wonder Jehovah sent Michael (Jesus) the most cool headed angel to come and deliver us because any nonsense from a human could provoke an angel sent to help you but from the onset Michael love humans most out of all the creatures God used him to create in the beginning! Proverbs 8:31 So he alone is THE Archangel and there's no other, that's why Daniel revealed that this same Michael is the Prince that's standing for our salvation despite all our sins {Daniel 12:1-3} no other angel can go through all what Jesus suffered in the hands of the creatures he wants to save! Hebrews 12:3 |
Re: The Son Is Superior To Angels by Emusan(m): 11:29am On Jul 20, 2022 |
MaxInDHouse: This your analogy is off point because my point isn't centered on the definite article "THE" but the phrase "ONE OF THE CHIEF..." Scam alert! This is a division tactics Now that Jude under inspiration wrote: Daniel 10:13 is also with the definite article THE "One of THE..." so all Archangels have that. It's evident that ALL Archangels are with that definite article "THE" Well there are many angelic sons close to the father in heaven and Michael is the foremost of them all that's why Daniel referred to him as the great Prince {Daniel 12:1} and Isaiah called him the Prince of Peace {Isaiah 9:6} because only Michael is cool headed unlike the others. That's not the point, the point is Micheal isn't the ONLY ARCHANGEL according to that Daniel 10:13 We can see that when God sent Gabriel (one of the Princes) to Zechariah inside the most holy inside the temple. Gabriel revealed his personality telling the man that he is the angel who is standing before God Almighty {Luke 1:19} then Gabriel out of provocation told Zechariah that he will not be able to speak again until what he revealed to him happens! Luke 1:20 Now look at the @underlined, isn't it intellectual dishonesty to classify Gabriel as "ONE OF THE PRICES..." but remove the CHIEF? So is Gabriel THE ONLY PRINCE here? He has shot himself on the foot Truth is starring at you there. But why did this angelic Prince strike the man with dumbness? Nobody needs this long Story sir So he alone is THE Archangel and there's no other, that's why Daniel revealed that this same Michael is the Prince that's standing for our salvation despite all our sins {Daniel 12:1-3} no other angel can go through all what Jesus suffered in the hands of the creatures he wants to save! Hebrews 12:3 You're still lying @underlined. Micheal isn't ONLY THE ARCHANGEL According to Daniel 10:13 Arch = Chief princes = Angels Will it be appropriate to render that Daniel 10:13 as "Lo Michael, ONE of the Archangels came to help me..."? The center point here is about ONE AMONG OTHERS Just as you're ONE OF THE JEHOVAH WITNESSES and doesn't make you the ONLY JWS. |
Re: The Son Is Superior To Angels by MaxInDHouse(m): 12:05pm On Jul 20, 2022 |
Emusan: Let the KJV render the word ARCH as CHIEF first Sir, i am one of Jehovah's Witnesses and i never call myself THE Jehovah's Witness because i know that there many WITNESSES of JEHOVAH but the scriptures never called Michael one of the ARCHANGELS. So if you can't show me in your KJV it's OK hold onto what you want to believe while i hold onto mine! |
Re: The Son Is Superior To Angels by Emusan(m): 12:23pm On Jul 20, 2022 |
MaxInDHouse: Smile.....so you're waiting for KJV You didn't attempt any of my questions above, why? Does the word ARCH mean CHIEF? Does the word PRINCES mean ANGELS? i am one of Jehovah's Witnesses and i never call myself THE Jehovah's Witness because i know that there many WITNESSES of JEHOVAH Since you're "ONE OF JEHOVAH WITNESSES" does that mean YOU'RE the Only Jehovah witnesses? You need to read more on how DEFINITE ARTICLE "THE" is used in a sentence. but the scriptures never called Michael one of the ARCHANGELS. But that's what Daniel 10:13 says So if you can't show me in your KJV it's OK By answering my question above, we'll see if Michael is ONE OF ARCHANGELS or not hold onto what you want to believe while i hold onto mine! This your line doesn't work on me you that, if you want to hold onto what you belief, you should have stayed in your hall and not coming to faceless forum to rant |
Re: The Son Is Superior To Angels by MaxInDHouse(m): 1:10pm On Jul 20, 2022 |
Emusan: I don't know what else you want but i'll assure you that if you can't bear facts there's no reason looking for someone upon whom you want to pour your frustration. If you can't find the KJV use ARCH for any other angel then it simply means there's none other than Michael but should you insist on your own understanding i'm OK please present the WORKS of your FAITH! James 2:18-26 1 Like |
Re: The Son Is Superior To Angels by Emusan(m): 1:22pm On Jul 20, 2022 |
MaxInDHouse: Now it's talking about fact and frustration No wonder you keep boycotting my question. Does the word ARCH mean CHIEF? Does the word PRINCES mean ANGELS? If you can't find the KJV use ARCH for any other angel then it simply means there's none other than Michael Micheal is called ONE OF THE ARCHANGELS in Daniel 10:13, true of false? You can ask your brother to help you with the screenshot of that but should you insist on your own understanding i'm OK My own understanding or what the scripture says You want to change the narrative, I know your style please present the WORKS of your FAITH! James 2:18-26 The works of my faith are all abound around you unless you are too blind to see them. |
Re: The Son Is Superior To Angels by MaxInDHouse(m): 1:46pm On Jul 20, 2022 |
Emusan: Quote the highlighted from your copy of the KJV. This is what mine says: "But the Prince of the Kingdom of Persia withstood me one and twenty days, but, lo, Michael, one of the chief princes, came to help me, and i remained there with the kings of Persia" Daniel 10:13 KJV Archangel no dey there o! Now the same KJV say: "Yet Michael the Archangel when contending with the devil he disputed about the body of Moses, durst not bring against him a railing accusation, but said the Lord rebuke thee" Jude 1:9 KJV How can the same translator use ARCHANGEL in one verse then change the text to CHIEF PRINCES in another verse? Ọmọ if you're worried about your TRINITY it's dead long ago that's why you can only see the unique teachings of Jehovah's Witnesses today standing tall above all others! Matthew 5:14-16 1 Like |
Re: The Son Is Superior To Angels by Emusan(m): 2:19pm On Jul 20, 2022 |
MaxInDHouse: Does Arch mean CHIEF or not? Does princes mean ANGELS or not? Until you answer these questions But at least I've help you with the above. Now the same KJV say: No one argue if Michael isn't an archangel but it's you who refused to acknowledge that Michael isn't ONE OF THE CHIEF(ARCH) PRINCES (ANGELS) How can the same translator use ARCHANGEL in one verse then change the text to CHIEF PRINCES in another verse? Does your NWT use the same WORD throughout their translation? But it's very simple only if you can answer these simple questions Does ARCH mean CHIEF or not? Does Princes mean ANGELS or not? I've been asking you more than three times now, why are you avoiding these questions? because you know your ignorance will be exposed. Ọmọ if you're worried about your TRINITY it's dead long ago that's why you can only see the unique teachings of Jehovah's Witnesses today standing tall above all others! Matthew 5:14-16 Cry me a river! Who is talking about Trinity here? So far, you're the one going back and forth on simple question. |
Re: The Son Is Superior To Angels by MaxInDHouse(m): 2:22pm On Jul 20, 2022 |
Emusan: The answer to your questions is NO! |
Re: The Son Is Superior To Angels by Emusan(m): 2:23pm On Jul 20, 2022 |
Re: The Son Is Superior To Angels by MaxInDHouse(m): 2:36pm On Jul 20, 2022 |
Emusan: Suit yourself! |
Re: The Son Is Superior To Angels by Emusan(m): 2:37pm On Jul 20, 2022 |
MaxInDHouse: That's nice! |
Re: The Son Is Superior To Angels by Janosky: 5:33pm On Jul 20, 2022 |
Emusan:Emusan delusion nauseating New King James Version Genesis 4:19 & Daniel 10:13, ONE of/the One/of One= First, Senior. In screenshots Strong's h259 , the password to cure Emusan delusion. "Then Lamech took for himself two wives: the name of one was Adah, and the name of the second was Zillah" Daniel 10:13 But the Prince of the Kingdom of Persia withstood me one and twenty days, but, lo, Michael, one of the chief (arch) princes (Angels)" Daniel 10:13 & Genesis 4:19, ONE of/the One/of One= First, Senior. Is "First" attributed to Jesus Christ @ Hebrews 1:5 & Colossians 1:15. Is Daniel 10:13,12:1 cross reference to Jesus Christ by your Trinity mentors? YES!
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Re: The Son Is Superior To Angels by Janosky: 5:40pm On Jul 20, 2022 |
Emusan:Emusan delusion nauseating New King James Version Genesis 4:19 & Daniel 10:13, ONE of/the One/of One= First, Senior. In screenshots Strong's h259 , the password to cure Emusan delusion. "Then Lamech took for himself two wives: the name of one was Adah, and the name of the second was Zillah" Daniel 10:13 But the Prince of the Kingdom of Persia withstood me one and twenty days, but, lo, Michael, one of the chief (arch) princes (Angels)" Daniel 10:13 & Genesis 4:19, ONE of/the One/of One= First, Senior. Is "First" attributed to Jesus Christ @ Hebrews 1:5 & Colossians 1:15. Is Daniel 10:13,12:1 cross reference to Jesus Christ by your Trinity mentors? YES! Biblehub references "ONE" as First, Senior to ALL powers and principalities. Yet,Emusan continues to emit GIBBERISH.
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Re: The Son Is Superior To Angels by Janosky: 5:43pm On Jul 20, 2022 |
Emusan:Emusan delusion nauseating New King James Version Genesis 4:19 & Daniel 10:13, ONE of/the One/of One= First, Senior. In screenshots Strong's h259 , the password to cure Emusan delusion. "Then Lamech took for himself two wives: the name of one was Adah, and the name of the second was Zillah" Daniel 10:13 But the Prince of the Kingdom of Persia withstood me one and twenty days, but, lo, Michael, one of the chief (arch) princes (Angels)" Daniel 10:13 & Genesis 4:19, ONE of/the One/of One= First, Senior,Head. Is "First" attributed to Jesus Christ @ Hebrews 1:5 & Colossians 1:15. Is Daniel 10:13,12:1 cross reference to Jesus Christ by your Trinity mentors? YES! Biblehub references "ONE" as First, Senior,"Head over ALL powers and principalities." Yet,Emusan continues to emit GIBBERISH.
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Re: The Son Is Superior To Angels by Janosky: 5:52pm On Jul 20, 2022 |
Emusan: See as Mr LIENUS dey display iberibeism in public. 1 Thessalonians 4:16 and Daniel 10:13, the same Michael at Revelation 12:7-9, Archangel Michael , Jesus Christ the Head leading every other rank of angels whether Cherubs or seraphims (Matthew 25:31). Mr LIENUS,go and Delete these verses from your Bible & have peace. |
Re: The Son Is Superior To Angels by Emusan(m): 6:03pm On Jul 21, 2022 |
Janosky: I know you will never make sense, JaNosenses the great Gebbrish typer But let's substitute the "first" for "ONE" in Daniel 10:13 "Lo, Michael FIRST of the CHIEF(Arch) Princes(Angels) came to help me..." So does this mean Michael is the ONLY archangel JaNosenses? |
Re: The Son Is Superior To Angels by Emusan(m): 6:06pm On Jul 21, 2022 |
Janosky: See painment, anytime Jesus Christ is mentioned you and your father the Devil mind will just puff up in pain Jesus created you and your father the Devil. Jesus is your Creator even Jehovah says the incarnated Son Jesus is FAR SUPERIOR THAN ANY ANGEL which includes your Michael 1 Like |
Re: The Son Is Superior To Angels by Jokerman(m): 7:14am On Aug 02, 2022 |
MaxInDHouse: Look at what Jesus claimed here.... John 10:30: I and my Father are one. John 17:5: And now, O Father, glorify thou me with thine own self with the glory which I had with thee before the world was. So you think this is still Angel Michael? |
Re: The Son Is Superior To Angels by Jokerman(m): 7:16am On Aug 02, 2022 |
Janosky: There are other arch angels Sir.... |
Re: The Son Is Superior To Angels by MaxInDHouse(m): 8:23am On Aug 02, 2022 |
Jokerman: Archangel Michael had the same line of thought with the true God who stood for the salvation of obedient, peaceloving and faithful people {Daniel 12:1 compare to John 10:30} in heaven Michael is the Chief commander of all the heavenly armies {Revelations 12:7} before Satan rebelled against God's sovereignty and dragged one-third of the angels to join him! Revelations 12:4 According to the Bible Jesus claimed that he is the commander in chief of all heavenly armies {Matthew 16:27} just as we have read about Michael, he said he's the one whose voice will raise all the dead {John 5:28-29} and Paul made us to understand that such a voice is that of the ARCHANGEL! 1Thessalonians 4:16-17 So what else do you think about Archangel Michael? 1 Like |
Re: The Son Is Superior To Angels by johnw47: 12:46am On Aug 05, 2022 |
MaxInDHouse: lost false jw mad max jokerman's two quoted verses about Jesus go perfectly together: Jokerman: know nothing false jw, your michael verse daniel 12:1 doesn't go with john 10:30, as you lied in fact daniel 12:1 isn't about michael and God having the same line of thought at all, as you again lied it's about a still future time when israel, who michael is protector of is invaded by armies and some will be saved: Dan 12:1 “At that time Michael, the archangel who stands guard over your nation, will arise. Then there will be a time of anguish greater than any since nations first came into existence. But at that time every one of your people whose name is written in the book will be rescued. lost false jw mad max, you love to falsify God's word and lie, don't you: Joh 8:44 You are of your father the devil, and you want to do the desires of your father. He was a murderer from the beginning, and does not stand in the truth because there is no truth in him. Whenever he speaks a lie, that is his natural way of speaking, for he is a liar and the father of lies. 1 Like |
Re: The Son Is Superior To Angels by johnw47: 3:31am On Aug 05, 2022 |
michael will help save some in israel, dan 12:1 the Lord Jesus Christ saves people from all the nations Col_1:14 In whom we have redemption through his blood Act 16:31 And they said, Believe on the Lord Jesus Christ, and thou shalt be saved |
Re: The Son Is Superior To Angels by johnw47: 4:42am On Aug 05, 2022 |
Jud 1:9 Yet Michael the archangel, when contending with the devil he disputed about the body of Moses, durst not bring against him a railing accusation, but said, The Lord rebuke thee. jude, Jesus brother, of course knows that Jesus and michael are two diffrent persons and mentions both of them by their names can you imagine the powerful Word of God saying to the devil whom He made "the Lord rebuke you", the Word of God wold have said: "get behind me satan", or kicked his ass even in the flesh the Word of God/Jesus rebuked satan: Luk 4:8 And Jesus answered and said unto him, Get thee behind me Satan |
Re: The Son Is Superior To Angels by Nobody: 6:20am On Aug 05, 2022 |
MaxInDHouse:He only asked about John 1:1 They guy ever mentioned Trinity "In the beginning the word was...........which means the word Existed out of time |
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