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Re: Nigerian Stock Exchange Market Pick Alerts by Agbalowomeri: 12:34pm On Oct 31, 2022
yMcy56:

Well-done sir.
At least I can read a stock related contribution from you after a looong while instead of criticizing someone else's own.... lipsrsealed lipsrsealed

Oga Agba no vex o. Just dey talk Wetin my eyes see. grin

Loco abeg borrow me your skating shoe make I take commot from here fast..... cheesy

I know where to catch you na
Re: Nigerian Stock Exchange Market Pick Alerts by BullBearMkt(m): 12:40pm On Oct 31, 2022
onegentleguy:


Just saw the report and in minutes, over a dozen fellows have sent me messages expressing their concern with the negative NPM in Q3.

Here's what you should know;

It was a poor 3 months report, but better performance over the course of the year. (remarkable improvememt in 9-months compared to the preceding yr)

Like other coys in the sector (GUINESS, NB) It was difficult to maintain their Q2 growth trajectory due largely to variable cost-related inputs.
However, magt was smart enough to follow through with a nDFC to mitigate fx-induced risk on future repayments while maintaining an aggressive delaveraging push.
Again, there's the huge investments in capex. (ref: over 58% jump/outflow from previous yr guide)

I am strongly bullish on INTERBREW.
My bet is on this one!
I still LOVE what I see in the their SCF and BS.

The progress made is remarkable!
This might actually be the last opportunity to align with INTERBREW.
Q4/YE report will open people's eyes to what I've been saying about this coy. shocked cool

For those in; HOLD and be overprotective of your stake.
But pls FEEL FREE to sell off your stake if you so desire.
We shall look to ACCUMULATE more from those who might want to focus only on the coys SPL without due consideration to SCF and BS.

I'll repeat what I said in time past;
Buying INTERBREW @ N5 is like purchasing a bottle of Grand Malt for <N30.

Again, BUY... ACCUMULATE... HOLD!

CAVEAT: Due diligence still applies as always.
...bargain hunters will be looking below N4
Thanks for sharing your view @onegentleguy
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Re: Nigerian Stock Exchange Market Pick Alerts by pluto09(m): 12:42pm On Oct 31, 2022
yMcy56:

Well-done sir.
At least I can read a stock related contribution from you after a looong while instead of criticizing someone else's own.... lipsrsealed lipsrsealed

Oga Agba no vex o. Just dey talk Wetin my eyes see. grin

Loco abeg borrow me your skating shoe make I take commot from here fast..... cheesy
Re: Nigerian Stock Exchange Market Pick Alerts by BullBearMkt(m): 12:43pm On Oct 31, 2022
RabbiDoracle:
Unfortunately, we may be stuck in this environment till 2029. A yo-yo movement in and out of inflation just like in 1970s.

It is usually a decade of myriads of events. As one finishes, another starts.

So having a plan will be beneficial and go a long way to helping you make money during financial repressive environment like this.

My 2 kobo.
...great contributions from both of you @RabbiDoracle and @Agbalowomeri. Thanks.
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Re: Nigerian Stock Exchange Market Pick Alerts by pluto09(m): 12:43pm On Oct 31, 2022
yMcy56:
NAHCO
On full bid despite the lull situation in the market.....
Guess it's not unconnected with the attached....

**Not any form of advice**


q3 result was superb....

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Re: Nigerian Stock Exchange Market Pick Alerts by Olaide1295: 12:48pm On Oct 31, 2022
RabbiDoracle:


With what is coming, everyone must file into stocks las las. Holding cash isn't an option anymore.

Severe inflation will finish cash and bond holders.

Food or equities. People must choose one or both.


It is interesting that you find stocks attractive at this time. When risk free returns are around 13-15%.
If you have 10M Naira today, what will you be buying?

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Re: Nigerian Stock Exchange Market Pick Alerts by BullBearMkt(m): 12:52pm On Oct 31, 2022
Olaide1295:

It is interesting that you find stocks attractive at this time. When risk free returns are around 13-15%.
If you have 10M Naira today, what will you be buying?
...good question; over to you sir @RabbiDoracle
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Re: Nigerian Stock Exchange Market Pick Alerts by safepaulooo(m): 1:11pm On Oct 31, 2022
Oga rabbi don answer na. Good Divided paying stocks. Better than sitting on cash. Personally i buy the idea. Buy good dividend stocks at BARGAIN. Enjoy the dividends till reversal, which will surely come. APC government might not allow equity market spoil their chances oh. I expect strong rebounce soon

Olaide1295:

It is interesting that you find stocks attractive at this time. When risk free returns are around 13-15%.
If you have 10M Naira today, what will you be buying?
Re: Nigerian Stock Exchange Market Pick Alerts by Nobody: 1:30pm On Oct 31, 2022
BullBearMkt:

...good question; over to you sir @RabbiDoracle
grin grin grin grin grin

OK. Let me break it down. And let no one see this as me blowing my bubble.

I live in Turkey (unfortunately close to Russia separated by the black sea) grin grin grin and that is why I am concerned about some nuclear rhetoric.

Here inflation is 83% as at September 2022. This one na govt report o. Interest on bank deposit is 16%. So things are really expensive. Exchange rate (USD - lira) rose spectacularly in 2021 (from 6+ to 18) and it had remained so till 2022 (18+).

So what do people do to beat inflation? They buy cars and flip. Some buy houses and flip. Then people buy food and store. These are real assets. Real goods.

Those who have change to spare buy equities of the companies that produce real goods. Because during inflation, you must make necessary provisions for basic things. So you must buy these at those high prices. These go to the companies as increasing revenues and after cost of sales and other expenses, they still shell out massive returns. They pay Dividends. Stock make parabolic rise.

I have noticed that lots of companies that produce goods had their stocks rise between 500% to 1, 000%. Some are even more. I have quite a few names scattered in the affected sectors that these global events impact. So I write based on experience.

If you are holding cash when inflation is 83% and interest on deposits is just 16%, then you will be instantly crushed.

Now going back to Nigeria, inflation (govt reported) is 20% and what is the fixed deposit rate? Maybe 17%. This is nothing. You are still in financial repression where your funds lose money in a double whammy of lower fixed deposit rates vs inflation and devaluation. So what do you do because its gonna get worse before it gets better.

Though NSE isn't so deep like in Turkey where you trade wheat stocks, natural gas stocks, electric company stocks, steel stocks, dry food stocks, leasing, pharma and electronics etc. However we still have food stocks on NSE. You may think they won't rise, but when it starts, it goes very fast.

I have seen stocks do 500% in 3 months here. The most important is for one to ensure that every N1 you get doesn't stay as cash. You could be losing initially but it will be coming back as dividends which you can spend. If it is staying as cash, you will be spending it on highly costly goods(food, drink, energy cost etc) which would deplete your savings fast unlike when you are using dividends to offset these if you were invested in good dividends paying stocks.

And if you get like +1,000%, then you know what to do. grin grin

Inflation is beneficial to me and it is what I'm experiencing now. So I speak from experience.

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Re: Nigerian Stock Exchange Market Pick Alerts by Wapgod(m): 1:44pm On Oct 31, 2022
RabbiDoracle:


OK. Let me break it down. And let no one see this as me blowing my bubble.

I live in Turkey (unfortunately close to Russia separated by the black sea) grin grin grin and that is why I am concerned about some nuclear rhetoric.

Here inflation is 83% as at September 2022. This one na govt report o. Interest on bank deposit is 16%. So things are really expensive. Exchange rate (USD - lira) rose spectacularly in 2021 (from 6+ to 18) and it had remained so till 2022 (18+).

So what do people do to beat inflation? They buy cars and flip. Some buy houses and flip. Then people buy food and store. These are real assets. Real goods.

Those who have change to spare buy equities of the companies that produce real goods. Because during inflation, you must make necessary provisions for basic things. So you must buy these at those high prices. These go to the companies as increasing revenues and after cost of sales and other expenses, they still shell out massive returns. They pay Dividends. Stock make parabolic rise.

I have noticed that lots of companies that produce goods had their stocks rise between 500% to 1, 000%. Some are even more. I have quite a few names scattered in the affected sectors that these global events impact. So I write based on experience.

If you are holding cash when inflation is 83% and interest on deposits is just 16%, then you will be instantly crushed.

Now going back to Nigeria, inflation (govt reported) is 20% and what is the fixed deposit rate? Maybe 17%. This is nothing. You are still in financial repression where your funds lose money in a double whammy of lower fixed deposit rates vs inflation and devaluation. So what do you do because its gonna get worse before it gets better.

Though NSE isn't so deep like in Turkey where you trade wheat stocks, natural gas stocks, electric company stocks, steel stocks, dry food stocks, leasing, pharma and electronics etc. However we still have food stocks on NSE. You may think they won't rise, but when it starts, it goes very fast.

I have seen stocks do 500% in 3 months here. The most important is for one to ensure that every N1 you get doesn't stay as cash. You could be losing initially but it will be coming back as dividends which you can spend. If it is staying as cash, you will be spending it on highly costly goods(food, drink, energy cost etc) which would deplete your savings fast unlike when you are using dividends to offset these if you were invested in good dividends paying stocks.

And if you get like +1,000%, then you know what to do. grin grin

Inflation is beneficial to me and it is what I'm experiencing now. So I speak from experience.

Where is fixed deposit rate 17% in Nigeria?
Re: Nigerian Stock Exchange Market Pick Alerts by Nobody: 1:49pm On Oct 31, 2022
Wapgod:


Where is fixed deposit rate 17% in Nigeria?

Just giving you an example. Even if it is 17% vs inflation of 20%, you are still losing money on that and with devaluation.

If it is lower than 17%, then it is a severe financial repression. So it means people will find ways to invest in anything otherwise their savings will be depleted.

The same imbalance is seen in EU, US and Japan where savers and fixed income guys are crushed.

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Re: Nigerian Stock Exchange Market Pick Alerts by BullBearMkt(m): 2:09pm On Oct 31, 2022
RabbiDoracle:


OK. Let me break it down. And let no one see this as me blowing my bubble.

I live in Turkey (unfortunately close to Russia separated by the black sea) grin grin grin and that is why I am concerned about some nuclear rhetoric.

Here inflation is 83% as at September 2022. This one na govt report o. Interest on bank deposit is 16%. So things are really expensive. Exchange rate (USD - lira) rose spectacularly in 2021 (from 6+ to 18) and it had remained so till 2022 (18+).

So what do people do to beat inflation? They buy cars and flip. Some buy houses and flip. Then people buy food and store. These are real assets. Real goods.

Those who have change to spare buy equities of the companies that produce real goods. Because during inflation, you must make necessary provisions for basic things. So you must buy these at those high prices. These go to the companies as increasing revenues and after cost of sales and other expenses, they still shell out massive returns. They pay Dividends. Stock make parabolic rise.

I have noticed that lots of companies that produce goods had their stocks rise between 500% to 1, 000%. Some are even more. I have quite a few names scattered in the affected sectors that these global events impact. So I write based on experience.

If you are holding cash when inflation is 83% and interest on deposits is just 16%, then you will be instantly crushed.

Now going back to Nigeria, inflation (govt reported) is 20% and what is the fixed deposit rate? Maybe 17%. This is nothing. You are still in financial repression where your funds lose money in a double whammy of lower fixed deposit rates vs inflation and devaluation. So what do you do because its gonna get worse before it gets better.

Though NSE isn't so deep like in Turkey where you trade wheat stocks, natural gas stocks, electric company stocks, steel stocks, dry food stocks, leasing, pharma and electronics etc. However we still have food stocks on NSE. You may think they won't rise, but when it starts, it goes very fast.

I have seen stocks do 500% in 3 months here. The most important is for one to ensure that every N1 you get doesn't stay as cash. You could be losing initially but it will be coming back as dividends which you can spend. If it is staying as cash, you will be spending it on highly costly goods(food, drink, energy cost etc) which would deplete your savings fast unlike when you are using dividends to offset these if you were invested in good dividends paying stocks.

And if you get like +1,000%, then you know what to do. grin grin

Inflation is beneficial to me and it is what I'm experiencing now. So I speak from experience.
...nice 1. OkomuOil & Presco come to mind
grin grin grin grin grin

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Re: Nigerian Stock Exchange Market Pick Alerts by Nobody: 2:10pm On Oct 31, 2022
BIST 100

83% inflation, bank deposit rate at 16%, interest rate cut to 9%+

Nigeria just 20% inflation rate.

Soon the wind of change on NSE will be like BIST.

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Re: Nigerian Stock Exchange Market Pick Alerts by BullBearMkt(m): 2:33pm On Oct 31, 2022
RabbiDoracle:
BIST 100

83% inflation, bank deposit rate at 16%, interest rate cut to 9%+

Nigeria just 20% inflation rate.

Soon the wind of change on NSE will be like BIST.
That's a massive move on the stock market. I'm not sure that rise in price is as a result of inflation alone. Normally rise in inflation should have negative effect on the stock market, let me say in a sane environment, like US & UK (that I follow their markets). Only valued stocks will tend to rise while growth stocks will continue to fall and invariably affect the market index. This massive jump in Turkish stock market index get as e be. Suspecting some other underlining factors are responsible not only inflation
grin grin grin grin grin

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Re: Nigerian Stock Exchange Market Pick Alerts by Nobody: 2:54pm On Oct 31, 2022
BullBearMkt:

That's a massive move on the stock market. I'm not sure that rise in price is as a result of inflation alone. Normally rise in inflation should have negative effect on the stock market, let me say in a sane environment, like US & UK (that I follow their markets). Only valued stocks will tend to rise while growth stocks will continue to fall and invariably affect the market index. This massive jump in Turkish stock market index get as e be. Suspecting some other underlining factors are responsible not only inflation
grin grin grin grin grin

It is a big EM just like Russia, Indonesia, Saudi etc. Other factors that could cause the rise is the ban of foreign investors in Russian market and they rotated into BIST. Others could be fall in other developed markets and some small to medium funds rotate into this EM.

The locals also contributed.
Re: Nigerian Stock Exchange Market Pick Alerts by Redoil: 3:22pm On Oct 31, 2022
Olaide1295:

It is interesting that you find stocks attractive at this time. When risk free returns are around 13-15%.
If you have 10M Naira today, what will you be buying?

ONLY GTBank and MTN ARE IN MY RAIDER

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Re: Nigerian Stock Exchange Market Pick Alerts by Nobody: 3:42pm On Oct 31, 2022
Olaide1295:

It is interesting that you find stocks attractive at this time. When risk free returns are around 13-15%.
If you have 10M Naira today, what will you be buying?

Risk free return of 13 to 15%. Good one.

With N10m, buying Zenith at N20 gives you 500,000 units assuming you pay off the commission outside the N10m.

Zenith gives N3 dividend. And is bound to repeat it at 2022 YE. This will be 13.5% dividend yield if you remove withholding taxes.

And once the wind of change goes in favour of the banks, you get capital appreciation on Zenith and still pocket dividends equivalent to the risk free return you mentioned.

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Re: Nigerian Stock Exchange Market Pick Alerts by Justcul(m): 3:47pm On Oct 31, 2022
RabbiDoracle:


Risk free return of 13 to 15%. Good one.

With N10m, buying Zenith at N20 gives you 500,000 units assuming you pay off the commission outside the N10m.

Zenith gives N3 dividend. And is bound to repeat it at 2022 YE. This will be 13.5% dividend yield if you remove withholding taxes.

And once the wind of change goes in favour of the banks, you get capital appreciation on Zenith and still pocket dividends equivalent to the risk free return you mentioned.


Based!

Already averaging in on Zenith and GTCO. UBA looks good as well.
Re: Nigerian Stock Exchange Market Pick Alerts by beejay1(m): 3:48pm On Oct 31, 2022
Gbam!!!

Easy pizzi...
RabbiDoracle:


Risk free return of 13 to 15%. Good one.

With N10m, buying Zenith at N20 gives you 500,000 units assuming you pay off the commission outside the N10m.

Zenith gives N3 dividend. And is bound to repeat it at 2022 YE. This will be 13.5% dividend yield if you remove withholding taxes.

And once the wind of change goes in favour of the banks, you get capital appreciation on Zenith and still pocket dividends equivalent to the risk free return you mentioned.

Re: Nigerian Stock Exchange Market Pick Alerts by Agbalowomeri: 5:21pm On Oct 31, 2022
RabbiDoracle:


Risk free return of 13 to 15%. Good one.

With N10m, buying Zenith at N20 gives you 500,000 units assuming you pay off the commission outside the N10m.

Zenith gives N3 dividend. And is bound to repeat it at 2022 YE. This will be 13.5% dividend yield if you remove withholding taxes.

And once the wind of change goes in favour of the banks, you get capital appreciation on Zenith and still pocket dividends equivalent to the risk free return you mentioned.


What if I get Zenith at N10 ? grin grin grin

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Re: Nigerian Stock Exchange Market Pick Alerts by Godisfaithful: 5:32pm On Oct 31, 2022
$1 is equivalent to N805/N810 (Naira)

This is not how we want it to be but the present govt want it this way.

E ku market oooooo

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Re: Nigerian Stock Exchange Market Pick Alerts by Agbalowomeri: 5:51pm On Oct 31, 2022
Godisfaithful:
$1 is equivalent to N805/N810 (Naira)

This is not how we want it to be but the present govt want it this way.

E ku market oooooo

Myjoy08 I hail o

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Re: Nigerian Stock Exchange Market Pick Alerts by Nobody: 5:52pm On Oct 31, 2022
Agbalowomeri:


What if I get Zenith at N10 ? grin grin grin

If you believe it's possible to get to that price after all your analysis, then you wait for it and buy at N10.

Others who want a cashflow can buy at the price where the dividend yield is OK for them.

Though I still expect Zenith to rise to 75 and GTB to 90 in their ascent.

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Re: Nigerian Stock Exchange Market Pick Alerts by Agbalowomeri: 5:55pm On Oct 31, 2022
RabbiDoracle:


If you believe it's possible to get to that price after all your analysis, then you wait for it and buy at N10.

Others who want a cashflow can buy at the price where the dividend yield is OK for them.

Though I still expect Zenith to rise to 75 and GTB to 90 in their ascent.

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Re: Nigerian Stock Exchange Market Pick Alerts by BabsO2(m): 7:23pm On Oct 31, 2022
Did Turkish banks participate in this steep rise or were left out. Please can you share the names of some of their banks that did well.

RabbiDoracle:
BIST 100

83% inflation, bank deposit rate at 16%, interest rate cut to 9%+

Nigeria just 20% inflation rate.

Soon the wind of change on NSE will be like BIST.

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Re: Nigerian Stock Exchange Market Pick Alerts by yMcy56(f): 7:27pm On Oct 31, 2022
Agbalowomeri:
I know where to catch you na
Lol. Abeg sir....E ma se b'ese to o. grin

...but honestly, try and be contributing more on this thread sir, you be Agba for this biz and your views/TA/FA/GA and even spiritual analysis are also very important in decision making for some people, for we newbies and in balancing some equations......
E se pupo in advance. wink

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Re: Nigerian Stock Exchange Market Pick Alerts by yMcy56(f): 7:28pm On Oct 31, 2022
MORE INTERIM DIVIDENDS DECLARED....

PRESCO
Interim Dividend: N2.00
Qualification Date: 21st November, 2022
Payment Date: 25th November, 2022
Registrar: First Registrar
https://doclib.ngxgroup.com/Financial_NewsDocs/37162_PRESCO_PLC%20CORPORATE_ACTIONS_ANNOUNCEMENT_CORPORATE_AC.pdf

OKOMU
Interim Dividend: N2.00
Qualification Date: 15th Nov, 2022
Payment Date: 22nf Nov, 2022
Registrar: Cardinal Stone
https://doclib.ngxgroup.com/Financial_NewsDocs/37165_OKOMU_OIL_PALM_PLC%20CORPORATE_ACTIONS_CORPORATE_ACTION.pdf

AIRTEL
Interim Dividend: 2.18cents
Qualification Date: 9th Nov, 2022
Payment Date: 9th Dec, 2022
Registrar: Coronation Registrars
https://doclib.ngxgroup.com/Financial_NewsDocs/37167_AIRTEL_AFRICA_PLC%20DIVIDEND_CONFIRMATION__CORPORATE_ACT.pdf

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Re: Nigerian Stock Exchange Market Pick Alerts by BabsO2(m): 7:33pm On Oct 31, 2022
This is Christmas gift to shareholders. Nice
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yMcy56:
MORE INTERIM DIVIDENDS DECLARED....

PRESCO
Interim Dividend: N2.00
Qualification Date: 21st November, 2022
Payment Date: 25th November, 2022
Registrar: First Registrar
https://doclib.ngxgroup.com/Financial_NewsDocs/37162_PRESCO_PLC%20CORPORATE_ACTIONS_ANNOUNCEMENT_CORPORATE_AC.pdf

OKOMU
Interim Dividend: N2.00
Qualification Date: 15th Nov, 2022
Payment Date: 22nf Nov, 2022
Registrar: Cardinal Stone
https://doclib.ngxgroup.com/Financial_NewsDocs/37165_OKOMU_OIL_PALM_PLC%20CORPORATE_ACTIONS_CORPORATE_ACTION.pdf

AIRTEL
Interim Dividend: 2.18cents
Qualification Date: 9th Nov, 2022
Payment Date: 9th Dec, 2022
Registrar:
https://doclib.ngxgroup.com/Financial_NewsDocs/37167_AIRTEL_AFRICA_PLC%20DIVIDEND_CONFIRMATION__CORPORATE_ACT.pdf

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Re: Nigerian Stock Exchange Market Pick Alerts by Nobody: 7:49pm On Oct 31, 2022
BabsO2:
Did Turkish banks participate in this steep rise or were left out. Please can you share the names of some of their banks that did well.


Yes, all the banking stocks rose. Some names did x2 to x3 in 4 weeks. Mo gbe ja grin grin. Because it was too steep.

After that they lost between 50% to 60% in 2 weeks.

You can check the chart on investing site.

AKBNK
VAKBN
ISCTR
GARAN
HALKB
TSKB
SKBNK

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Re: Nigerian Stock Exchange Market Pick Alerts by BabsO2(m): 7:57pm On Oct 31, 2022
Thanks.

I just picked this story from google search
https://www.reuters.com/business/finance/turkish-bank-stocks-rollercoaster-ride-leaves-investors-reeling-2022-09-16/

Will Naija banks ride the wave of inflation to higher incomes or some may collapse. will look at those specific stocks you listed to see if there is anything I can learn.

RabbiDoracle:


Yes, all the banking stocks rose. Some names did x2 to x3 in 4 weeks. Mo gbe ja grin grin. Because it was too steep.

After that they lost between 50% to 60% in 2 weeks.

You can check the chart on investing site.

AKBNK
VAKBN
ISCTR
GARAN
HALKB
TSKB
SKBNK


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Re: Nigerian Stock Exchange Market Pick Alerts by Godisfaithful: 8:39pm On Oct 31, 2022
Agbalowomeri:


Myjoy08 I hail o

Agba mi Agba,

E ku market oooooo
Re: Nigerian Stock Exchange Market Pick Alerts by BabsO2(m): 8:50pm On Oct 31, 2022
RabbiDoracle:


Yes, all the banking stocks rose. Some names did x2 to x3 in 4 weeks. Mo gbe ja grin grin. Because it was too steep.

After that they lost between 50% to 60% in 2 weeks.

You can check the chart on investing site.

AKBNK
VAKBN
ISCTR
GARAN
HALKB
TSKB
SKBNK



Their financials is all over the place. Mostly flat on EPS, but with revenues rising sharply across the banks. In the first four AKBNK did well in EPS in 2021 and GARAN performed extremely well. Used the following to take a quick glimpse.
https://www.morningstar.com/stocks/xist/akbnk/financials
https://www.morningstar.com/stocks/xist/vakbn/financials
https://www.morningstar.com/stocks/xist/ISCTR/financials
https://www.morningstar.com/stocks/xist/GARAN/financials

This means some Naija banks will surely ride well on inflation. While some may not.

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