I swear. It is as if McD is the only employer of labor.

GboyegaD:


It is amusing how many of you only know those who works with McDonalds.

lanresz:
I swear. It is as if McD is the only employer of labor.

Sometimes, I feel people just recite what they read and not what is true just to make a point.

Why you dey argue blindly brother … abroad is better than nigeria … the only good thing about nigeria is having no laws in place … i can say to you categorically that your house abroad has more value than ur house here in Nigeria ………. I wont say more than that … we get for the abroad and Nigeria … so i dey tell u based on my own experience …

Treadway:
you responded without reading, clearly. First of, I noticed you changed the 0.0001% to 1%, so you are thankfully backtracking closer to reality. Now, even 1% is about 2million people, meaning a little above 50000 ppl per sorted even without earning very big money. My mechanic and .

elijah101:
Why you dey argue blindly brother … abroad is better than nigeria … the only good thing about nigeria is having no laws in place … i can say to you categorically that your house abroad has more value than ur house here in Nigeria ………. I wont say more than that … we get for the abroad and Nigeria … so i dey tell u based on my own experience …

una get brain freeze. When you are able to show me where I said one country is better than the other in this thread, quote the statement and get back to me. People incapable of independent thinking, even those who have supposedly lived in the sane climes cannot hold conversation and stay on point. Quit rambling like the intellectual lilliputians that are vapid and boring, and only have wack lines like 'this is what i make in a week, yen yen yen'. Show me where in this thread I was doing comparison of countries. Someone yarned dust and I cleared him, and he sef has admitted stylishly say his post was wildly ignorant, you are joining him to deflect to a topic I did not bring up. Be a man of your own, you hear. It isn't that hard.

As i dey type so … i no get electricity for house … nepa don take light sinceee morning … why do i need an inverter when i can get 24hrs un interrupted light … thats on the side … if you are not on a prepaid meter in Nigeria … crazy bill will kill you … because u will be billed for darkness … imagine this … my light got cut off 2nd of june … my prepaid meter came in 25th june … i got the light fixed back … july 2nd … bill comes in for june for a whopping 98k naira … i complained … but even nerc could not do anything about it … so tell me do you prefer this lawlessness to a working system … be honest with your self

Treadway:
and you provide a lot of personal anecdotes that are based of nothing. If that well written explanation can not show you your flawed point of view, nothing will. Fact is, I am living breathing proof that with a little financial literacy, you can live well and fine even without being opulent. You can have a decent house, cars, assets, business, and a freaking inverter, all what in your wildly uninformed view (which you still hold onto for dear life) is only accessible to the rich and wealthy). 0.0001% ko, 7000% ni. Pele Abroadarian, chief statistician of the NBS diaspora chapter! Funny lots

elijah101:
As i dey type so … i no get electricity for house … nepa don take light sinceee morning … why do i need an inverter when i can get 24hrs un interrupted light … thats on the side … if you are not on a prepaid meter in Nigeria … crazy bill will kill you … because u will be billed for darkness … imagine this … my light got cut off 2nd of june … my prepaid meter came in 25th june … i got the light fixed back … july 2nd … bill comes in for june for a whopping 98k naira … i complained … but even nerc could not do anything about it … so tell me do you prefer this lawlessness to a working system … be honest with your self

no be wetin I dey follow una/you talk be this. Mr Woody said na only rich and wealthy dey build house and dey use inverter for naija, I clear am say no be only rich and wealthy dey build house and use inverter for naija. No more, no less! all this one na discussion for another day, wey I no even dey interested in, and I did not comment on. Hope you get me now. Shalom

U know how much inverter cost … u go use Ac … use fridge … use other small small things u dey compare inverter to normal light … even if na solar sef … normal light still better pass am … 100

Treadway:
enough of being a dolt with shitty comprehension abilities. I am not here to do a comparison of Nigeria and other countries with you. I am here to point out your wildly ignorant post. Deal with it! Go back and read your post, or get someone with good eyesight to read it out loud for you, and learn what I am teaching you. You claim only the rich and wealthy are building houses and using freaking inverters, and i said and i'm still saying that claim is so unfounded and ignorant. Even you have stylishly admitted that by backtracking from 0.0000000001 wey you dey cap to 1% and now feigning many people weren't using inverter when you left. Now I am clearing you, learn, admit you yarned crap, and face front instead of clutching at straws in deepwater. I ain't doing a comparison of countries with you and anyone with eyes to read, firing brain cells, clarity of mind, and maturity can clearly see that, afi iwo. Won't be responding to you again.

Ps...i don't have just a little financial literacy (I no wan dey brag before ni) . Baba God deposited that gift in me..lati kekere ni oo. I know how to control, manage, make the most of money....pele...hehehehe

elijah101:
U know how much inverter cost … u go use Ac … use fridge … use other small small things u dey compare inverter to normal light … even if na solar sef … normal light still better pass am … 100

Elijah101, man to man, I beg you, don't be emotional when discussing. Not an insult. Strive to not be emotional and you will stand out. Many men are so weak and emotional and it beats me. If you are wrong admit it, it shows strength and character. It won't kill you. Ok let me break it down further. Imagine that Mr Woody came and made a bogus claim that there is no internet in Nigeria and people are riding donkeys, and I or you stepped in to say haha, sofrisofri na, internet dey and people are driving cars, does that have anything to do with comparison of countries? Stay on point, stick to the facts, and stand out when having discussions.. cos only very few people can.

Twoods no lie … i still have quotes from different companies for solar inverter … price go don even increase now …the least i got for 5kva was about 1.3m i think … least ooo … how many people fit afford this for nigeria … ur mechanic no fit run walaii… u sef know … market women or bricklayers or welders no fit run am …. And again i want u to compare a carpenter in the abroad to the one in Nigeria …

Treadway:
no be wetin I dey follow una/you talk be this. Mr Woody said na only rich and wealthy dey build house and dey use inverter for naija, I clear am say no be only rich and wealthy dey build house and use inverter for naija. No more, no less! all this one na discussion for another day, wey I no even dey interested in, and I did not comment on. Hope you get me now. Shalom

elijah101:
Twoods no lie … i still have quotes from different companies for solar inverter … price go don even increase now …the least i got for 5kva was about 1.3m i think … least ooo … how many people fit afford this for nigeria … ur mechanic no fit run walaii… u sef know … market women or bricklayers or welders no fit run am …. And again i want u to compare a carpenter in the abroad to the one in Nigeria …

see what I mean, does inverter translate to solar and must the setup be mega! Jeezuz! I don tire o...lol. ok guy, you can set up an inverter that will last you 3-4days to watch TV, power fan for you to sleep pretty at night,and lighting (with energy saving bulbs) to go about your activities all for under 200k even as things cost now. How much more before now and the many ppl that have set it up. I haven't even incorporated solar to mine cos the current setup is still okay for me. Why are you jumping straight to the millions millions setup Hehehe. O GA oo

Elijah if you want to buy a car now, will you only consider a 2022 range rover OR a car that you can afford that can get you from point a to b without issues. Cmon man! Well I have shared what i want to share with you, if you get it fine, if not it's all good. Cheers

He did not lie … internet in Nigeria is super expensive, if i dey save data money for one year … i go buy land for inside inside ogun state

Treadway:
Elijah101, man to man, I beg you, don't be emotional when discussing. Not an insult. Strive to not be emotional and you will stand out. Many men are so weak and emotional and it beats me. If you are wrong admit it, it shows strength and character. It won't kill you. Ok let me break it down further. Imagine, Mr Woody came and made a bogus claim that there is no internet in Nigeria and people are riding donkeys, and I or you stepped in to say haha, sofrisofri na, internet dey and people are driving cars, does that have anything to do with comparison of countries? Stay on point, stick to the facts, and stand out when having discussions.. cos only very few people can.

elijah101:
He did not lie … internet in Nigeria is super expensive, if i dey save data money for one year … i go buy land for inside inside ogun state

see now, you have also dropped an ignorant claim. Internet is more expensive in the US, UK, Canada and Australia, and I'm talking from direct experience of two of those countries and from friends in the other two countries. Not people using WiFi at work o, I'm talking about prepaid internt plans. They are far far more expensive. Shey you go argue that one too.

Because i want comfort na … them use suffer do me … i no wan dey suffer come still dey smile … God forbid … because the politicians no dey suffer … me sef i deserve small enjoyment too … no special treatment abroad when ut comes to basic things … but here basic is luxury … i can categorically tell u that there are estate the island with 24hrs light supply … for the same lagos … but the rent na die … is 24hrs light too much to ask for … ghana get am na … how ghana take do am … is there any magic to it … make our government ask ghana how them take do am … i am asking u a direct question now … u be die hard nigerian fan … when do you think Nigeria will be able to give her citizens 24hrs uninterrupted power supply..

Treadway:
see what I mean, does inverter translate to solar and must the setup be mega! Jeezuz! I don tire o...lol. ok guy, you can set up an inverter that will last you 3-4days to watch TV, power fan for you to sleep pretty at night,and lighting (with energy saving bulbs) to go about your activities all for under 200k even as things cost now. How much more before now and the many ppl that have set it up. I haven't even incorporated solar to mine cos the current setup is still okay for me. Why are you jumping straight to the millions millions setup Hehehe. O GA oo

elijah101:
Because i want comfort na … them use suffer do me … i no wan dey suffer come still dey smile … God forbid … because the politicians no dey suffer … me sef i deserve small enjoyment too … no special treatment abroad when ut comes to basic things … but here basic is luxury … i can categorically tell u that there are estate the island with 24hrs light supply … for the same lagos … but the rent na die … is 24hrs light too much to ask for … ghana get am na … how ghana take do am … is there any magic to it … make our government ask ghana how them take do am … i am asking u a direct question now … u be die hard nigerian fan … when do you think Nigeria will be able to give her citizens 24hrs uninterrupted power supply..

guy, if you check my posts, you will see clearly where I stand on naija matter. I'm not a die-hard Nigerian fan, I don't give a damn about Nigeria. I'm just a person and businessman minding and going about my business on a daily basis and pursing my goals.

But they get what they pay for … we dont … i use glo and this glo network na die … na only Nairaland e fit open effortlessly …

Treadway:
see now, you have also dropped an ignorant claim. Internet is more expensive in the US, UK, Canada and Australia, and I'm talking from direct experience of two of those countries and from friends in the other two countries. Not people using WiFi at work o, I'm talking about prepaid internt plans. They are far far more expensive. Shey you go argue that one too.

Then why are you pushing for people to stay back in a place with a bad system … Nigeria is only for making money … not to raise a family … truth is u will make the most money in Nigeria if them share u the secret … but thats what nigeria is good for … making money out of the ignorant bunch … and giving your family better shot at the good things life has to offer … its just one life ooo ..enjoy life oooo… enjoy comfort … comfort is not that expensive in some places ooo … only in Nigeria

Treadway:
guy, if you check my posts, you will see clearly where I stand on naija matter. I'm not a die-hard Nigerian fan, I don't give a damn about Nigeria. I'm just a person and businessman minding and going about my business on a daily basis and pursing my goals.

Have u checked the price of things in Nigeria also …

Munamoqel:
Other Intending Japarains the UK just raise interest rate .meaning that you are japaring into high cost of living not seen in the UK for 30 years . It also mean cost of everything like morgagate ,credits insurance are on the high side now .you morgagate could jump from 1500 to 1900 per months while income are static . understand the society you want to jump into well don't be carry away with fine fine picture Japarains post .use you heads.

elijah101:
But they get what they pay for … we dont … i use glo and this glo network na die … na only Nairaland e fit open effortlessly …

lol. This man, deep down I have a hunch you get my point, you just wan vent. Issokay issorite, notin do you..lol

Abegiii … i no get ur point ooo … i just tell u truth na … i can afford the luxury normally … the only thing wey dey pain me be say … the luxury comes with a price that only a few can afford …

Treadway:
lol. This man, deep down I have a hunch you get my point, you just wan vent. Issokay issorite, notin do you..lol

elijah101:
He did not lie … internet in Nigeria is super expensive, if i dey save data money for one year … i go buy land for inside inside ogun state

effect of Lagos bus strike nah . that the effect .rants and more rants

Creamcrest:

Sharrap, Nigeria is not nearing collapse,it's still one of the best countries on earth.

Nigerians in Canada and America are even complaining of not being able to build wealth.

Shootings and gun violence also happens in America and Canada.

Some Nigerians here have 24hrs power using inverters and solar.

Most Nigerians can easily build their houses while you niggas in canada and US will be paying for mortgages for several years.

You don't understand the suffering of ppl. All this thing you just mentioned are only available to the rich. It's a global world and wherever you find comfort becomes your home. Some of us will never find comfort in Nigeria, untill you travel out. Non of us will go to the world beyond(hell or heaven) with earthly possession. But, some of us will enjoy a more quality life and be a blessing to others.

TWoods:


None of the folks you mention here represent close to 1% of Nigeria's population. The exception is not the rule. You make N500k/month… how many Nigerians make that amount?

Spot on. Only 1%

I use to read this type of threads with Keen interest, before I eventually left Nigeria.
Now I just laugh at the back and forth.
Life's all about choices people!!!.
Rest.

Treadway:
see now, you have also dropped an ignorant claim. Internet is more expensive in the US, UK, Canada and Australia, and I'm talking from direct experience of two of those countries and from friends in the other two countries. Not people using WiFi at work o, I'm talking about prepaid internt plans. They are far far more expensive. Shey you go argue that one too.

I have never heard that word “prepaid internet plans” It is unlimited data at a fixed amount , and you don’t pre-pay. You use and pay that fixed amount at the end of your cycle, usually one month.
Putting figures into it, for $30 a month, you can unlimited 5G internet plan. How is this expensive ?

sonnie10:


I have never heard that word “prepaid internet plans” It is unlimited data at a fixed amount , and you don’t pre-pay. You use and pay that fixed amount at the end of your cycle, usually one month.
Putting figures into it, for $30 a month, you can unlimited 5G internet plan. How is this expensive ?

aside the screenshots, may I suggest you pay extra attention to the link below. It is exhaustive enough
https://www.cable.co.uk/mobiles/worldwide-data-pricing/
Airtel gives me 5k/ 40gb most times and 20gb other times.

Ps: let's just say I take back the term 'prepaid' I used earlier, wholly. I suspect that may be the next thing peeps will latch on to, ignoring the substance..lets just say i used the wrong term whilst I was trying to specify individual user data subs paid for, exclusive from WiFi at the office or elsewhere

Bro … this data matter … forget it … i wish there was a way you could actually check the data u use in a day … in Nigeria 1g does not equal 1gb 1gb equals at most 400mb … u are been cheated without knowing it my bro ….the only way to get good internet in nigeria is to settle for the fibre ones and the likes … its cheap dont get me wrong … but its dependent on electricity and na for inside your ouse u fit use am …and u dey foret say verizon dey … mint mobile dey … lyca mobile dey

Treadway:
aside the screenshots, may I suggest you pay extra attention to the link below. It is exhaustive enough
https://www.cable.co.uk/mobiles/worldwide-data-pricing/
Airtel gives me 5k/ 40gb most times and 20gb other times.

Ps: let's just say I take back the term 'prepaid' I used earlier, wholly.i suspect that may be the next thing peeps will latch on ignoring the substance..lets just say i used the wrong ter.whilst I was trying to specify individual user data subs paid for, exclusive from WiFi at the office or elesewhere

Treadway:
aside the screenshots, may I suggest you pay extra attention to the link below. It is exhaustive enough
https://www.cable.co.uk/mobiles/worldwide-data-pricing/
Airtel gives me 5k/ 40gb most times and 20gb other times.

Ps: let's just say I take back the term 'prepaid' I used earlier, wholly.i suspect that may be the next thing peeps will latch on ignoring the substance..lets just say i used the wrong ter.whilst I was trying to specify individual user data subs paid for, exclusive from WiFi at the office or elesewhere

Let's compare apples to apples and oranges to oranges

Here is my take on this;
Abroad
For minimun wage job, at $12 per hour, when you work 8 hours your make $96. Net (after taxes) would be about $80 for a day's job. If you have an internet plan of $30 monthly, this amount would pay for 2 months plus.

Nigeria
For minimun wage job, at #30, 000 salary for a month, that equivalent of #1k daily. Now, if you have like you said Airtel at #5k per month, you would have worked for 5 days to afford your montly internet bill.

Is this not what these discussion is about?

sonnie10:


Let's compare apples to apples and oranges to oranges

Here is my take on this;
Abroad
For minimun wage job, at $12 per hour, when you work 8 hours your make $96. Net (after taxes) would be about $80 for a day's job. If you have an internet plan of $30 monthly, this amount would pay for 2 months plus.

Nigeria
For minimun wage job, at #30, 000 salary for a month, that equivalent of #1k daily. Now, if you have like you said Airtel at #5k per month, you would have worked for 5 days to afford your montly internet bill.

Is this not what these discussion is about?

first of all, let's be clear, I'm not getting dragged into a comparison of country Vs country. That is not what I'm in this discussion about. I am not interested!!!

However, as a lover of intelligent discourse let us dive into this. The answer isn't absolute, but rather relative. That something can be afforded by people doesn't mean it is inherently cheaper in absolute terms. Stay with me. I am aware that indomie noodles is priced a certain way in the US and I'm sure other countries too. Some Nigerian foods are priced higher than other foods indigenous to those locations abroad as well. So if a carton of indomie is say $40 (3k+ here) or a plate of a Nigerian delicacy is (1k here) $30 at a restaurant, despite your clear minimum wage calculation for the two countries would you say that those foods are more expensive in Nigeria?

You may say yes, but I'll say no. Reason? Even despite that minimum wage, many can still keep up with eating indomie and the local delicacy, while typically a Nigerian in US wont. I know people who deliberately run away from indomie there, not because they can't afford to, but it isn't something they can keep up with, it doesn't even make sense when there are cheaper alternatives, and ultimately because it simply is not cheap, even despite that like you have analysed they can afford it based on the math. There are tons of posts here about ppl being encouraged to adapt to eating the foods indigenous to their locations rather than Nigerian food cos it ain't cheap. Just look around travel section you'll see them. But based off this math, they can afford it, but yet can't afford it. It's a catch22 sometin.

sonnie10:


Let's compare apples to apples and oranges to oranges

Here is my take on this;
Abroad
For minimun wage job, at $12 per hour, when you work 8 hours your make $96. Net (after taxes) would be about $80 for a day's job. If you have an internet plan of $30 monthly, this amount would pay for 2 months plus.

Nigeria
For minimun wage job, at #30, 000 salary for a month, that equivalent of #1k daily. Now, if you have like you said Airtel at #5k per month, you would have worked for 5 days to afford your montly internet bill.

Is this not what these discussion is about?

usual Nonsense you need over 40 USD to survive daily abroad !as a single soul in a shared apartment !

Treadway:
first of all, let's be clear, I'm not getting dragged into a comparison of country Vs country. That is not what I'm in this discussion about. I am not interested!!!

However, as a lover of intelligent discourse let us dive into this. The answer isn't absolute, but rather relative. That something can be afforded by people doesn't mean it is inherently cheaper in absolute terms. Stay with me. I am aware that indomie noodles is priced a certain way in the US and I'm sure other countries too. Some Nigerian foods are priced higher than other foods indigenous to those locations abroad as well. So if a carton of indomie is say $40 (3k+ here) or a plate of a Nigerian delicacy is (1k here) $30 at a restaurant, despite your clear minimum wage calculation for the two countries would you say that those foods are more expensive in Nigeria?

You may say yes, but I'll say no. Reason? Even despite that minimum wage, many can still keep up with eating indomie and the local delicacy, while typically a Nigerian in US wont. I know people who deliberately run away from indomie there, not because they can't afford to, but it isn't something they can keep up with, it doesn't even make sense when there are cheaper alternatives, and ultimately because it simply is not cheap, even despite that like you have analysed they can afford it based on the math. There are tons of posts here about ppl being encouraged to adapt to eating the foods indigenous to their locations rather than Nigerian food cos it ain't cheap. Just look around travel section you'll see them. But based off this math, they can afford it, but yet can't afford it. It's a catch22 sometin.

The reason people don’t eat indomie here is because it’s not a healthy option
Food in Nigerian restaurants here is not more than $10-15 a plate. Same with a piece of burger meal. It is affordable to most. Because that is one tenth of daily minimum wage
One thousand naira plate of food in Nigeria is one third of daily minimum wage in Nigeria (if you eat three times in a day, salary is gone on food alone)
I just like to practically about these things.

Munamoqel:
usual Nonsense you need over 40 USD to survive daily abroad !as a single soul in a shared apartment !

We were talking particularly about internet bill not total cost of living.

sonnie10:

The reason people don’t eat indomie here is because it’s not a healthy option
Food in Nigerian restaurants here is not more than $10-15 a plate. Same with a piece of burger meal. It affordable to most. Because that is one tenth of daily minimum wage
One thousand naira plate of food in Nigeria is one third of daily minimum wage.
I just like to practically about these things.

ok o. Me, I don't eat indomie/golden penny...these our instant noodles sha. Too many chemicals. I hate it and don't believe it is a healthy food (tho I can't prove this) BUT my padi's wey dey avoid am na cost dem talk say be their reason not health. Also, I have read many posts from people here, either they are advising others or the people themselves are talking about how they have decided to reduce/replace Nigerian foods, and it is always for cost reasons. If you look around, you are sure to see these posts. It's all good sha.