staga:
All these people saying they stopped attending church for all kinds of reasons are just jokers.

Do you quit your profession or your job because of "pretences" or because you have a bad co-worker or boss? Many people are still working under toxic environments because they need the money.

I am not in church because of a pastor or someone. So it will take a monumental reason to stop me from attending church. I am yet to see such reason. After, some stopped listening or following Jesus because they were offended at Him.

Doesn't the Bible say when 2 or 3 are gathered he is there?

He doesn't need a church, the pastor is middle man between you and God.

That's why ppl call them theives because if you have the holy spirit, what do you need a pastor for? Or is the Holy spirit partial?

Nana you stopped attending church because you grew up and had sense!!

Kobojunkiee:
1. Stop spewing trash for the sake of it abeg!

2. Jesus Christ never asked any of His followers to attend your church services in His name. He never asked them to build church businesses using His name, and He certainly never asked anyone to sit as shepherd or teacher over those who belong to the Kingdom of God. So your churches and the religion it serves has nothing to do with God or Jesus Christ..

3. What God gave to individual men is His Law and He made it clear that only those who obey His Law belong to Him. Your religious system of Christianity along with all its many rituals and traditions are instead pagan in origin and not of God.

1. You called my take on his belief trash yet you couldn't provide even a single reason against it. Your defence/counter without evidence is the only trash.

2. Let me clear something upfront. The word Church means a body of people who come together to serve God. It's not a building. It's a people. The building basically provides shelter from uncomfortable weather conditions.

This body existed before Jesus in the form of Synagogue. The Bible records that Jesus attended one around age 12 to learn and question. So church is a word adopted by Christians for their assembly just as others use Synagogue. And they are essentially for the same purpose.

A. "Jesus Christ never asked any of His followers to attend your church services in His name."

My church services? I don't have church or attend any. In fact, I don't do Religion. Your assumption could only mean one thing: a church did you strong thing. Well, bad things can happen anywhere. Take heart.

Ba. "He never asked them to build church businesses using His name"

True. The business nature of most of today's churches is rather an unfortunate turn of event. The church was supposed to be a place for making its members life better, but it's now largely a place for money making by its founders/leaders.

Bb. ", and He certainly never asked anyone to sit as shepherd or teacher over those who belong to the Kingdom of God."

Yet he said, "follow me and I will make you fishers of men". Yet he said to Peter "If you love me, feed my sheeps"? Yet he had twelve disciples?

So tell, what were they supposed to do with all those knowledge.

3. And God didn't state that they should be communicated to others or how it should be communicated?
Yet God have prophets and Synagogues? Strange!

yongg:


Which synagogue did John the Baptist attend while in the wilderness, how about the other 700 (I think) prophets that were hidden in plain sight while Jezebele was frustrating the obvious ones and Elijah?

I strongly believe it is essentially a personal journey at a certain level.

Is Synagogue built in the wilderness? Hmm. Well, it's safe to assume that he attended while in town because it's a common, if not essential, religious practice. Jesus did attend at around age 12, remember?

I don't know about those prophets. But you should know that hiding in times of crisis is a safety measure. So except God told them not to hide, I don't see anything wrong with it.

Yes, I believe too. What I don't like is when a person claims what they aren't. You can believe you serve God, or more appropriately the Creator, without belonging to a body; but you can't be a christian and not attend a church. That's my point, and I did make it clear in my comment.

Sarch:
They won't allow you wear earrings to church.
Are you really sure you have a relationship with God.

After Job's affliction, God restored his health and wealth and people brought him gifts including gold earrings, which means he may have worn them in his days. When the golden calf was built, both male and female israelites dropped their gold earrings, but Moses never commanded the men never to wear earrings. Don't be an eye service Christian, God looks at the heart. Think!

Scientheosopher:
1. You called my take on his belief trash yet you couldn't provide even a single reason against it. Your defence/counter without evidence is the only trash.

2. Let me clear something upfront. The word Church means a body of people who come together to serve God. It's not a building. It's a people. The building basically provides shelter from uncomfortable weather conditions. This body existed before Jesus in the form of Synagogue. The Bible records that Jesus attended one around age 12 to learn and question. So church is a word adopted by Christians for their assembly just as others use Synagogue. And they are essentially for the same purpose.

A. "Jesus Christ never asked any of His followers to attend your church services in His name." - My church services? I don't have church or attend any. In fact, I don't do Religion. Your assumption could only mean one thing: a church did you strong thing. Well, bad things can happen anywhere. Take heart.
Ba. "He never asked them to build church businesses using His name"
True. The business nature of most of today's churches is rather an unfortunate turn of event. The church was supposed to be a place for making its members life better, but it's now largely a place for money making by its founders/leaders.

Bb. ", and He certainly never asked anyone to sit as shepherd or teacher over those who belong to the Kingdom of God." Yet he said, "follow me and I will make you fishers of men". Yet he said to Peter "If you love me, feed my sheeps"? Yet he had twelve disciples? So tell, what were they supposed to do with all those knowledge.

3. And God didn't state that they should be communicated to others or how it should be communicated? Yet God have prophets and Synagogues? Strange!

1. That's easy because what you claim has no bearing in scripture which you attempted there to link it with.

2. Again, according to scripture, instead, the Church which belongs to Jesus Christ consists of the branches on the Vine that is Jesus Christ. They serve Him individually but they are joined together by the fact they are all on the Vine.

Note the difference between your idea of a Church and that presented by Jesus Christ Himself in His Gospel. Your churches are adopted from synagogues that existed before Jesus Christ, formerly community gatherings commanded by God which over time, as Israel fell to sin, evolved into religious meetings— God never gave religion to men by the way— as you now have them today.

A. NO assumption made here. Simply pointing out the fact that even the church idea you have there was not commanded by Jesus Christ. It is of Pagan roots and not of God.
B.a. There is not a "supposed to be" here since Jesus Christ never asked His followers to emulate the synagogues of His time.
B.b Followers of Jesus Christ are sent out by God to gather back to God the sons and daughters of the House of Jacob who God Himself cursed and scattered to the winds - Deuteronomy 30 vs 1 - 6 & Isaiah 66 vs 18 - 24. They are sent out to fish from among the gentile Nations - from every tribe, every tongue, and every nation of the world - the lost sheep of Israel who God will then cause to return to His Israel at the time of the resurrection, hence they are called Fishers of men.

As for Jesus Christ's instructions to Peter commanding him, Peter, to feed His Sheep, Jesus Christ literally meant for Peter to feed His Sheep. That is the same commandment that Jesus Christ gave to every other follower of His whose goal is to enter into the Kingdom of Heaven i.e. we are talking here of the very keys to the gates of Heaven found detailed in Matthew 25 vs 31- 46 where Jesus Christ explains that only those who do those works as His followers will be granted the reward that is Heaven.

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I) Feed my Sheep
* When I was hungry, you gave me food to eat
* When I was thirsty, you gave me something to drink
II) Take Care of my Sheep
* When I was naked, you clothed me
* When I was homeless, you welcomed me into your home
* When I was sick, you cared for me
* When I was in prison, you visited me

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As for Jesus Christ having had 12 disciples, well, He did send them all to go into the world to teach the Gospel to those who did not already know the Gospel, baptizing them in order that they may be saved from the condemnation of Sin. i.e. Death as depicted by the Old Law. Jesus Christ sent them out to teach things to those who were in the world, not to those who were saved, as He made it clear to them that He alone is a Teacher and Shepherd over those who are born-again and have entered into the Kingdom of God as a result - Matthew 23 vs 8 - 10 vs John 19 vs 7 - 16. All others who pretend to teach those who are born-again are frauds who stand against Him, Jesus Christ.

3. What prophets and synagogues are you talking of? John the Baptist was the last of the Old Covenant Prophets, according to Jesus Christ, and Jesus Christ never sent any prophets to anyone. What is the essence of sending out His followers and then prophets as well? No makie any sensie!

drlateef:




IPOB are Christian terrorists full stop.

Says one who comes from a religion that kill for their Allah, from Nigeria to Iraq to Somali to Afghanistan to Pakistan.

Suicide bombers! I hope if the election doesn't go your way next year, you people from the religion of violence will not go on a rampage?

Mynd44:
https://community.thenationonlineng.net/forum/why-i-stopped-attending-church-timini-egbuson?xg_source=twitter&s=08

Going to church is not important. The most important thing in this life is to do everything that pleases God, our Heavenly Father.

She is right, lots of pretending in the church, in fact the church is one big theatre where everyone is acting a script.

Organized religion is the biggest scam of all, shout alleluia.

Now or later it will soon be clear to you.Now or later it will soon be clear to you....

emperordelis:
This is exact where a lot of Nigerian youths stand right now and the numbers keep growing...We admit there's God,but we also want to believe we can find,keep,worship and communicate with him without having to go to any church

Because the church is no more a place to worship God but a place where most pastors see as avenues to raise capital to establish themselves, guys and ladies see it as hookup centers, dressing to kill/impress, preaching sermons that encourages immorality, etc.

Amayabor1:


Says one who comes from a religion that kill for their Allah, from Nigeria to Iraq to Somali to Afghanistan to Pakistan.

Suicide bombers! I hope if the election doesn't go your way next year, you people from the religion of violence will not go on a rampage?

IPOB belongs to religion of violence Ahahahah!

Amayabor1:


You still have not made any sense. If i had been born in China, I will probably be worshipping whatever god or deity they worship there. If had been born in Saudi Arabia, I would probably be worshipping Allah. Since I was born in Nigeria and I am a Christian, allow me worship my God in peace. If you believe there is no God, your cup of tea. Keep your useless opinion to yourself.

Lols okay ooh

Just say you don't go to church

HoneySwag:


Because the church is no more a place to worship God but a place where most pastors see as avenues to raise capital to establish themselves, guys and ladies see it as hookup centers, dressing to kill/impress, preaching sermons that encourages immortality, etc.

I couldn't have said it any better...The purpose of church going has been defeated and I guess this awakened the mind of most youths,I mean if I can Establish a personal relationship with my creator,follow his words,read the Bible and above all love my neighbor as myself,why do I have to go sit through hours of long sermon knowing at the end of the day,it's just my money they want?

Omniman:
Everyone who no dey go church again get their reasons.

But church babes badt, the holier they seem the badder they are.

If you know, you know

dem dey sweet to fuk ooo especially pastor pikin you go just dey cast the demons from her tight kpekus with ur iron rod she go dey give you that melodious moaning way fit make you release all ur sperm inside her toto

SoftP:
Talking Trash!

That ain't Trash .. It's God to Pray to God in Congregation but when Congregation become Scamming Centre then Everyone would need to go jnside and communicate with their God themselves!

staga:
All these people saying they stopped attending church for all kinds of reasons are just jokers.

Do you quit your profession or your job because of "pretences" or because you have a bad co-worker or boss? Many people are still working under toxic environments because they need the money.

I am not in church because of a pastor or someone. So it will take a monumental reason to stop me from attending church. I am yet to see such reason. After, some stopped listening or following Jesus because they were offended at Him.

Profession is Scam for people who wanted to Scam ...

But God is referred and Sanctuary ... We ain't doing well explaining God to People and In the Euphoria of Confusion, Many GOs still lies and Manipulate their Crowds for Amassing Wealth !

yongg:
Which synagogue did John the Baptist attend while in the wilderness, how about the other 7000 (I think) prophets that were hidden in plain sight while Jezebele was frustrating the obvious ones and Elijah?

I strongly believe it is essentially a personal journey at a certain level.

Just an aside to the mention of John and Elijah. Recall God spared Elijah from the wrath of King Ahab's wife, Queen Jezebel. Well, God returned him, Elijah, as John so they could do to him what they had wanted to do to him. That is what Jesus Christ said in Matthew 17 vs 12

10 The followers asked Jesus, “Why do the teachers of the law say that Elijah must come[a] before the Messiah comes?”
11 Jesus answered, “They are right to say Elijah is coming. And it is true that Elijah will make all things the way they should be.
12 But I tell you, Elijah has already come. People did not know who he was, and they treated him badly, doing whatever they wanted to do. It is the same with the Son of Man. Those same people will make the Son of Man suffer.”
13 Then the followers understood that when Jesus said Elijah, he was really talking about John the Baptizer. - Matthew 17 vs 10 - 13

Yes, what Jesus Christ meant by the above was that Elijah was spared by God from being killed by Jezebel in his first lifetime but he was returned back as John to have that act completed as recorded.

Scientheosopher:

■ Is Synagogue built in the wilderness? Hmm. Well, it's safe to assume that he attended while in town because it's a common, if not essential, religious practice.
■ Jesus did attend at around age 12, remember?
■ I don't know about those prophets. But you should know that hiding in times of crisis is a safety measure. So except God told them not to hide, I don't see anything wrong with it.
■ Yes, I believe too. What I don't like is when a person claims what they aren't. You can believe you serve God, or more appropriately the Creator, without belonging to a body; but you can't be a christian and not attend a church. That's my point, and I did make it clear in my comment.

1. Wrong! Synagogues were originally set up as community centers by the people in their various communities -- they weren't commanded by God who instead said that His people should worship Him only where He has designated thy they do.

2. At 12, Jesus Christ was instead taken by His parents to the temple, God's one and only house in the land.

3. What prophets? John the Baptist was the last of the Old Testament Prophets that God sent to the people of Israel. Jesus Christ never said He would send Prophets specially to anyone as He instead sent all of His followers out to teach His Gospel. So, anyone who claims to be a prophet specially sent by God is a liar.

4. Jesus Christ never commanded your churches which your lot regard as your bodies, nor did he permit any man to set any such up using His name. Jesus Christ said the only vine anyone who belongs to Him should concern themselves with is the Vine that is He. So when you do things that Jesus Christ never decreed, and so them using His name, it instead shows you are against Jesus Christ. In essence by belonging to these earthly groups which you claim to be your body, you reject the Vine as your Master and only body.

Kobojunkie:
Just an aside to the mention of John and Elijah. Recall God spared Elijah from the wrath of King Ahab's wife, Queen Jezebel. Well, God returned him, Elijah, as John so they could do to him what they had wanted to do to him. That is what Jesus Christ said in Matthew 17 vs 12
Yes, what Jesus Christ meant by the above was that Elijah was spared by God from being killed by Jezebel in his first lifetime but he was returned back as John to have that act completed as recorded.

Amazing connections you have there...

There's another connection to Elijah somewhere in Revelations, where it is mentioned that Moses and him(Elijah) will be killed again after being returned and will be re-resurrected.

yongg:
Amazing connections you have there...

There's another connection to Elijah somewhere in Revelations, where it is mentioned the Moses and him(Elijah) wil be killed again after being brought back and will re-resurrect.

I highly doubt that.

Kobojunkie:
I highly doubt that.

Lols, I will find it and get back to you..

This would mean both death counts for both person (Moses and Elijah) will both be 2. That's because I am also considering John's death as Elijah's own even when Elijah -iteration 0 didn't die and was taken up by chariots.


UPDATE:

My bad, sorry my subconscious already associated the two witness who weren't explicitly identified, based on their characteristic power the possessed and the appearance on the mount of transfiguration . That was a mistake because we can only guess who they actually are until more knowledge about their identity is revealed.

I even came across this article https://www.gotquestions.org/two-witnesses.html. Kinda explains better.

yongg:
Lols, I will find it get back to you..

This would mean both death counts for both person (Moses and Elijah) will both be 2. That's because I am also considering John's death as Elijah's own even when Elijah -iteration 0 didn't die and was taken up by chariots.

Does the story in Revelations state that both witnesses would proceed out of the grave to serve?

Kobojunkie:
Does the story in Revelations state that both witnesses would proceed out of the grave to serve?

No, I didn't even see the word "returned" I was thinking was there. So I was wrong (I have updated my previous post/comment).

By the way, Rev 11:5 is so "Dracarys"

yongg:
No, I didn't even see the word "returned" I was thinking was there. So I was wrong (I have updated my previous post/comment).

by the way. Rev 11:5 is so "Dracarys"

What does dracarys mean?,

Kobojunkie:
What does dracarys mean?,

"Dracarys" is the nifty command the Targaryens in the HBO Drama series, "Game of Thrones" use when they want their dragons to breathe fire.

https://www.quora.com/What-exactly-does-Dracarys-mean-in-Game-of-Thrones

yongg:
"Dracarys" is the nifty command the Targaryens in the HBO Drama series, "Game of Thrones" use when they want their dragons to breathe fire.

https://www.quora.com/What-exactly-does-Dracarys-mean-in-Game-of-Thrones

Oh, never seen that show!

Kobojunkie:
Oh, never seen that show!

You should in your free time.

Although people say the book is way more interesting than drama depicted series... I have no opinion on that because I haven't read the books and besides I prefer to watch than read when powering down.

yongg:
You should in your free time.

Although people say the book is way more interesting than drama depicted series... I have no opinion on that because I haven't read the books and besides I prefer to watch than read when powering down.

I will get to it eventually.