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MaxInDHouse:
What is the name of your church?
Logically we all know that it's contradictions that caused the division in Christendom churches!

brocab:
How many times do I have to write the name of my church down.
And I agree with you about many churches, kingdom halls etc.. they do draw people further away from God.
Their contradictions and divisions they lie against the Word of God. I do agree with you.

Janosky:


2 kings 25:8-10,25-26 dey co.nk your IBERIBEISM.

Although Nebuchadnezzar took many captives from Jerusalem to Babylon, he left others behind in the land. He also left the city itself standing. For years after this initial deportation, those left remaining in Judah, “the lowly class of the people,” lived off their land. (2 Kings 24:8-17, from which the IBERIBEIST got his 587BCE calculation which 2 kings 25:8-10,25-26 PROVEN is NOT accurate.).




When,a Jewish revolt brought the Babylonians back to Jerusalem. (2 Kings 24:20; 25:8-10) They razed the city, including its sacred temple, and they took many of its inhabitants captive to Babylon. Within two months, “all the people [who had been left behind in the land] from the least to the greatest, together with the army officers, fled to Egypt for fear of the Babylonians.” (2 Kings 25:25, 26, NIV) Only then, in the seventh Jewish month, Tishri (September/​October), of that year could it be said that the land, now desolate and unworked, began to enjoy its Sabbath rest,in the year 607BCE).

When Did “the Seventy Years” End?

The prophet Daniel, who lived until “the kingdom of Persia came to power,” was on the scene in Babylon, and he calculated when the 70 years were due to end. He wrote: “I, Daniel, perceived in the books the number of years that, according to the word of the LORD to Jeremiah the prophet, must pass before the end of the desolations of Jerusalem, namely, seventy years.”​—Daniel 9:1, 2, ESV.
Ezra reflected on the prophecies of Jeremiah and linked the end of “the seventy years” to the time when “the LORD (Jehovah) moved the heart of Cyrus king of Persia to make a proclamation.” (2 Chronicles 36:21, 22, NIV) When were the Jews released? The decree ending their exile was issued in “the first year of Cyrus the king of Persia.” Thus, by the fall of 537 B.C.E., the Jews had returned to Jerusalem to restore true worship.​—Ezra 1:1-5; 2:1; 3:1-5.

According to Bible chronology, then, the 70 years was a literal period of time that ended in 537 B.C.E. Counting back 70 years, the start date of the period would be 607 B.C.E.
607BCE leads you to 1914 , IYKYK.
The key part is getting the understanding that destruction of Jerusalem was actually in the year 607BCE, PROVEN by 2 kings 25:8-10,25-26.

MaxInDHouse:
So if there is contradictions then results should settle the matter {Matthew 7:16-18} name your own church and the WORKS this religion has helped imperfect humans like you and i to do in this endtime.
Don't come up with what can be found in all gathering of imperfect humans like fornication, adultery or any other act as a way to dodge the question because we all know that all these are the traits of imperfection in humans and there's no gathering of imperfect humans where such will not be found.
Talk about what the first century Christians were noticed to be doing in Antioch before they were called CHRISTIANS.
If you try to dodge this then forget about it you're just a madman!

brocab:
I have written this down many times; I belong to the Church at home: are you now satisfied?
And our Church is spread across every nation:
Born again believers from all walks of life; are seeking the Kingdom of God-mediating on His Word Day and Night-under the supervision of the Lords new Covenant, obeying the Commandments and His laws, doing what is written in the scriptures.
Christians giving to the widows the fatherless and the strangers, clothing the poor and needy, feeding the hungry.
Christians praying for each other, praying for people across the globe: Christians working together: Just as Christ always working with His Father.
{Joshua 1:8} Keep this Book of the Law always on your lips; meditate on it day and night, so that you may be careful to do everything written in it. Then you will be prosperous and successful.
We are prosperous and successful just like the Lord promise we will be,

brocab:
We actually follow what the disciples did, they had their Church meetings at home, you can keep your Watchtower organisation, 'pay your tithes, do what ever, it means nothing to me, we in the other hand are setting a good example, Mediating on the Word of God, and doing it..

MaxInDHouse:
This is why people needs understanding of the scriptures!

When God first established pure worship which involves a multitude of people He told His worshipers to make a TABERNACLE {Exodus 26:1} this is where all Israelites gather to worship the God of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob. Later David the great grandson of Judah decided to build a Temple in the name of JEHOVAH {Ezra 3:10} after Jerusalem was destroyed and the Jews were taken to Babylon they returned to rebuild Solomon's temple and this was where Jesus Christ worshiped his God throughout his life! Mark 12:35

After Jesus' death resurrection and ascension to heaven his disciples still worshiped in the Temple teaching people about the coming and the ministry of Christ Jesus! Act 3:1

So what led them to start worshiping at home?

Let me allow you say what you were taught by your pastors!

Janosky:
Spot on!

brocab:
[color=#000099]You preach another Jesus-your god is demonic, you come under a man made organisation called the Watchtower,

brocab:
Your doctrine is not from the bible: you have very little knowledge concerning the bible, So who are you? you are not even recognized in the Kingdom of God: you are a goat separated from the sheep:
You refuse the name trinity because it's not written in the bible-but the meaning of trinity is 3 in one.

brocab:
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Yet you use Jehovah and this name is not written in most bibles: but God the Father is written in all bibles, So it must mean the name Jehovah is not biblical: it's just a name used to recognize God.
Interestingly, A Roman Catholic Raymundus Martini, a Spanish monk of the Dominican order, first rendered the divine name as “Jehova.” This form appeared in his book Pugeo Fidei, published in 1270 C.E.​—over 700 years ago.
In time, as reform movements developed both inside and outside the Catholic Church, the Bible was made available to the people in general, and the name “Jehovah” became more widely known. In 1611 C.E. the King James or Authorized Version of the Bible was published. It uses the name Jehovah four times.{Ex. 6:3; Ps. 83:18; Isa. 12:2; 26:4}
So really the name Jehovah was given by a Roman Catholic Spanish Monk: so obviously it's not biblical, it's over 700 years old..

brocab:
Janosky believes in a god the Catholic's had began, why not bow down to the statue of Mary, while you are at it, these are unknown gods..
God said: we can't add or remove, the Catholic Church had added the name Jehovah to the scriptures.

Brocab the HYPOCRITE had to LIE to feel good about himself & console himself.

Janosky:
You are very deluded.
The word "Watchtower" is in your own Bible, Mark 12:1 & Isaiah 21:5,8.
More so, "Watchtower" is a component name used by Jehovah's servants for legal purposes,to fulfill the law of Ceasar.
Indeed, your own 3 deities is not the God Almighty of Jesus Christ,Acts 3:13.

Janosky:
But you use the name "Jesus" to recognise the only begotten Son of God even when you know that "Jesus" is NOT his real name.
Brocab is a Hypocrite glued to IBERIBEISM.




Brocab the HYPOCRITE had to LIE to feel good about himself & console himself.

Janosky:
Your 3 in one alias Trinity is a man made delusion.

John 20:17 ,is in your own Bible for a reason.
Jesus Christ and his sheep are not pagans who worship 3 deities.
Revelation 3:12,21 Jesus Christ does NOT recognize your 3 in one delusion in his Father's kingdom.

Janosky:
You are very deluded.
The word "Watchtower" is in your own Bible, Mark 12:1 & Isaiah 21:5,8.
More so, "Watchtower" is a component name used by Jehovah's servants for legal purposes,to fulfill the law of Ceasar.

Indeed, your own 3 deities is not the God Almighty of Jesus Christ,Acts 3:13.

MaxInDHouse:
This is why people needs understanding of the scriptures!

When God first established pure worship which involves a multitude of people He told His worshipers to make a TABERNACLE {Exodus 26:1} this is where all Israelites gather to worship the God of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob. Later David the great grandson of Judah decided to build a Temple in the name of JEHOVAH {Ezra 3:10} after Jerusalem was destroyed and the Jews were taken to Babylon they returned to rebuild Solomon's temple and this was where Jesus Christ worshiped his God throughout his life! Mark 12:35

After Jesus' death resurrection and ascension to heaven his disciples still worshiped in the Temple teaching people about the coming and the ministry of Christ Jesus! Act 3:1

So what led them to start worshiping at home?

Let me allow you say what you were taught by your pastors!

Janosky: WAILING and empty tantrums
GIBBERISH
sifia pains
your IBERIBEISM

MaxinDHouse: LIAR!
lunatic
idiot

brocab:
This is why you need understanding of the scriptures!
You can be fooled as much as you like,
{John 4;7-27} Jesus said: Sir, I can see that you are a prophet. Our fathers worshiped on this mountain. But you Jews say that Jerusalem is the place where people must worship.” Jesus said, “Believe me, woman. The time is coming when you will not have to be in Jerusalem or on this mountain to worship the Father. You Samaritans worship what you don’t understand. We Jews understand what we worship. Salvation comes from the Jews. The time is coming when the true worshipers will worship the Father in spirit and truth.
So if you feel there is only one place where you can worship, then you are wrong: We can worship God anywhere we stand: I can talk with God any time of the day-I don't have to go up on the mountain nor go to Church or Watchtower etc to worship, I fellowship more times then just the first day of the week or Saturday Sabbath. Don't you realize we are in fellowship now, writing about the Lord/

MaxInDHouse:
You have not answered my question perhaps i should make it simpler:

Moses and Israelites worship in a Tabernacle.
Solomon and Israelites worship in a Temple.
Jesus Christ worship in a Temple.
Apostles worship in a Temple.
So what led to worship in homes?
Remember they were sending greetings to one another and maintained the same line of thought throughout the Mediterranean sea province where they were living back then. 1Corinthians 16:19; Philippians 4:22; Hebrews 13:24; Titus 3:15

All these people have the same teaching in their heads because they're all taught by one GOVERNING BODY: APOSTLES! Act 2:42

So how come they're no longer worshiping in the Temple like the Apostles whose teachings they're all obedient to? Hebrews 13:7, 17

brocab:
The name Jesus is written in every English speaking bible, if I was reading a bible in another language Jesus Name will be in another language, but the bottom line is, Jesus Name will always be the same.

brocab:
Jehovah name is only written in a few verses in the King James bible-Many bibles don't have Jehovah name, because the printers that print the bibles believe Jehovah 'has the wrong spelling.

But since it was the Catholic Church that came up with a name Jehovah over 700 years ago, then obviously it's a name that had been added to the scriptures-where in fact God say's don't add nor remove, so your god you bow down to is just over 700 years old.

brocab:
You should ask the Lord to save you, become a real christian and learn to understand the scriptures through Christ, Janosky seriously right now you are like a broken record, everything you write, is like you are warring against yourself and against the scriptures!
You need to ask the Lord into your life, allowing Him to open up His Word for you, He will give you a clear view, you will begin to see the Word of God more clearly-Naturally and Spirituality.
It's like stepping into a new world, a world full of Godly wisdom and knowledge, you have never experienced before.
Right now you are trying to figure God's Word out in your fleshly mind-nothing will make sense to you, this is why you can't find the scriptures that will back up your own theories.

brocab:
You should ask the Lord to save you, become a real christian and learn to understand the scriptures through Christ, Janosky seriously right now you are like a broken record, everything you write, is like you are warring against yourself and against the scriptures!
You need to ask the Lord into your life, allowing Him to open up His Word for you, He will give you a clear view, you will begin to see the Word of God more clearly-Naturally and Spirituality.
It's like stepping into a new world, a world full of Godly wisdom and knowledge, you have never experienced before.
Right now you are trying to figure God's Word out in your fleshly mind-nothing will make sense to you, this is why you can't find the scriptures that will back up your own theories.

Janosky:
See 3 deities worshipper typing GIBBERISH because him no fit TWIST John 20:17

Janosky:
Oga, prove to this forum that
I) You are not "a broken record," &
ii) Use your "full Godly wisdom"
III) use your spiritual mind (brocab don't have carnal mid)
to present a brief explanation of John 20:17 & Revelation 3:12,21 in two sentences each..

Janosky:
F.O.OL !

What is the original language of your Bible?
In which year was the Bible first published in English language?

Is Jesus a Hebrew name?

Oga, you dull over much

F.O.OL !

YHWH is whose name in your Bible?

YHWH was first seen in Bible Manuscripts thousands of years before KJV deceiving you.

Janosky:
See 3 deities worshipper typing GIBBERISH because him no fit TWIST John 20:17

Dtruthspeaker:
They are not Christians.

They are a people whose basic need is to attack their twin brother called Catholics who themselves are not Christians also.

They are a people who think many things based on wishes in their plan to escape the anger of God. So they used the Bible to carve up a way for themselves, which because they are obtained from the Bible, they lie that they are from God as they continue their main mission of attacking Catholic church.

Whereas, they are another type of Satanism. No different from occultism.

brocab:
You write lies about people, and when asked about them you refuse to answer. Well maybe if you would answer all our questions: maybe then you will receive the answers from us.
You can argue as much as you like: but the Governing apostles didn't belong to the Watchtower:
No the Apostles stood outside in the court yard of the temple, after witnessing about Jesus, they took people to their homes, baptizing them. the Pharisees didn't agree with the teaching Jesus taught, nor would they allow the disciples teach: so where else could they go, from house to house they had home Church, they also met together on the streets.
{Hebrews 13:7-17} Have confidence in your leaders and submit to their authority, because they keep watch over you as those who must give an account. Do this so that their work will be a joy, not a burden, for that would be of no benefit to you,
None of the chapters you gave me, {Hebrew 13;7-17, Act 2:42, 1Corinthains 16:19; Philippians 4:22; Hebrews 13:24; Titus 3:15} say: we must worship in temples. Homes yes, but not temples-and we always respect our authorities-those who preach the Word of God.
{Acts 5:42} Day after day, in the temple courts and from house to house, they never stopped teaching and proclaiming the good news that Jesus is the Messiah.
{Acts 2:46} With one accord they continued to meet daily in the temple courts and to break bread from house to house, sharing their meals with gladness and sincerity of heart
The Holy Spirit didn't fall upon the disciples in a temple, it was in someones Home
Don't forget the temple vile was spit in two from top to bottom when the Holy Spirit left the scene, after Jesus was crucified. Jesus made away that the Holy Spirit was given to those who have chosen to believe..
I have found over the years many different religions prefer to use the Old Covenant Law, for gain: twisting it, selling God's Word for money. especially when using the tithing lie "now you can stay under the Old Covenant: your choice-and come under Moses Tabernacle-sacrificing daily and paying your tithe: and don't forget to stone your children while you are at it, and obey the 613 laws God had in place for those who were led by God's hand out of Egypt,
[color=#000000]Or you can come under the Covenant Jesus made with His disciples: [/color]
This is the New Covenant it's the promise that God makes with mankind that He will forgive sin and restore communion with those whose hearts believe in His Son, Jesus Christ. Jesus is the mediator of the New Covenant, and His death on the cross is the basis of the promise. He defeated death by His resurrection and restored life for those who believe in Him.
{John 3:16} “For God so loved the world, that he gave his only Son, that whoever believes in him should not perish but have eternal life."
{Luke 22:19-20} And he took bread, and when he had given thanks, he broke it and gave it to them, saying, "This is my body, which is given for you. Do this in remembrance of me." And likewise the cup after they had eaten, saying, "This cup that is poured out for you is the new covenant in my blood.
So we are under the New Covenant: we are no longer under the Covenant God made with Moses and Aaron: Jesus may have been born under the Law: but He made His New Covenant for us to obey: I don't deny the old testament, matter of fact I really enjoy reading it: but it was our tutor that brought us to Christ, now Christ has come, we are no longer under that tutor. {Galatians 3:25}
The Lord explained the old Covenant law and then under his New Covenant Law-He changed it.
{Matthew 5:44} Pray for those who hurt you. “You have heard that it used to be said, 'You shall love your neighbor', and 'hate your enemy', but I tell you, Love your enemies .. See: He changed the Law.
So which Covenant do you obey: obviously the Old Covenant. you hate us with a passion: you are no different to the Pharisees, they hated Jesus and the disciples: to a point of stoning them to death and crucifying.
Max you need to search the scriptures when finding anything out concerning Jesus-you need to stop playing the fool by Twisting scriptures-none of them chapters you gave me lined up with your temple theory-you need to study-stop listing to elders who haven't the slightest idea about Word: you know Max it's by there fruit we recognize them: This is what we see in your fruit -we recognize you as a hater against us..
And why do we prefer to have Home Church? Look around you: the Lord is separating the sheep from the goats.

MaxInDHouse:
So all those assembling in worship centers are evildoers shey?
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