essentialone:
Una dey over elongate as well as derail this thread and it's not cool at all. We all are either learners, teachers, or both, on the stock market. Imagine, coming back to the thread and seeing so many comments. You go through them to learn about the stock market, just to see that it is either about bond or about bondage. You rush and skip through all of that and end up even skipping through an important stock information. As I always say, the stock market is largely emotional and reactionary. Despite all your bedsheets, and fv and technical analysis or candlesticks, investors need the latest info to make some unforeseen decisions.


Make una teach me how to report to Admins and Mods ooo

E dey simple Oga mi. Follow dis steps if u no wan type d name of d mods for end of message u wan report:

1 Go down for d bottom of dat message u wan report. U go see report dia.

2. Click report. You go land for report page.

3. Read all d rules wey dey dia (rules reach 22 for dia) and select d one wey match dem offence (for people wey dey derail our stock market thread with bond opata, d rule dem break na No. 1

4. Type d number in front of d rule dem break for d space wey dey down dat page.

5. Click report.

Lobatan.c'est finis

Nigerialabalaba:

Oga mi, I concur. As you don tell dem wey dem no hear, report dem to mods so dem go chop ban wella. Na rule No. 1 dem break so . Dem go chop ban if we dey report dem.

Oda threads dey for bond but dem no wan hear and dey form sense so tey dey derail our stock market tin here.

We neva even finish stock dem wan chuke bond to derail d thread. Report dem. I don report dem now sef for breaking rule 1

1. Please post all threads in the right section, and don't derail threads by posting off topic



Oga mi, no be true. Bond market no be barometer of stock exchange, na d measure based on the stock prices of representative large firms trading on the Stock Exchange be d barometer. For yankee, na S&P 500, Dow Jones Industrial Average. We get NSE own too and na dat we dey use as barometer of stock market, no be bond market. Bond market na fixed income abeg. E fit relate to stocks at some point if oda factors gel wit am but dat one no still make bond d barometer of stock market.

For economy sef, no be bond dey show d way, national economy dey broad and I don see say u no be economist if you dey call bond market barometer of economy. Barometer of economy na data from tins like gdp, gnp, hdi, gini coefficient ati bebe lo.

Make you help us carry bond matter go bond market thread. Wen we want sabi anything about bond, we go come dia come read am and contribute. Dis thread na for Stocks make we fi le be.

Igi pawpaw o ni wo pa wa o.

Before interest rates or inflation goes up, you would have known 3 months prior to the time if you are following happenings in the bond market.

That is why astute investors move their investments between the fixed income market and the stock market, while some have a certain percentage of their portfolio in fixed income investments.


Warren Buffett also twerked one of his mentors (Benjamin Graham) formula for estimating the intrinsic value of a growth stock, by including the current yield on a 10 year fixed income in the formula. He multiplied his fair value by the average yield on a 10 year bond and then divided it by the current yield

Because he found out that after all was said and done the current yield on fixed income investments affected the fair value of a stock. If the fair value should be discounted or he should add a premium to it.

About few months ago when Warren Buffett had about $100 billion war chest, where did you think the fund was invested before he started buying undervalued stocks in the bear market

There is also a reason why about 90% of Nigerian workers retirement funds are invested by fund managers in fixed income investments.

essentialone:
Una dey over elongate as well as derail this thread and it's not cool at all. We all are either learners, teachers, or both, on the stock market. Imagine, coming back to the thread and seeing so many comments. You go through them to learn about the stock market, just to see that it is either about bond or about bondage. You rush and skip through all of that and end up even skipping through an important stock information. As I always say, the stock market is largely emotional and reactionary. Despite all your bedsheets, and fv and technical analysis or candlesticks, investors need the latest info to make some unforeseen decisions.


Make una teach me how to report to Admins and Mods ooo

Unilever is in a recovery mode, you may need to look into that stock if you are planning to hold it for a minimum of 12 months. And a stock in a recovery mode can easily do 100% and above. Please do your due diligence sha


The 2002 Q4 EPS was what the company made through out 2021.


There is a 95% probability that the 2023 EPS will grow by 150% compared to that of 2022

essentialone:
Una dey over elongate as well as derail this thread and it's not cool at all. We all are either learners, teachers, or both, on the stock market. Imagine, coming back to the thread and seeing so many comments. You go through them to learn about the stock market, just to see that it is either about bond or about bondage. You rush and skip through all of that and end up even skipping through an important stock information. As I always say, the stock market is largely emotional and reactionary. Despite all your bedsheets, and fv and technical analysis or candlesticks, investors need the latest info to make some unforeseen decisions.


Make una teach me how to report to Admins and Mods ooo

If you truly want to learn, then you will know that the thread is not being derailed by the discussion of bonds. You cannot study the stock market alone. And as he pointed out, you need to know when to sell your stocks to realise gains and where next to put the gains you got. Both bonds and stocks go together.

If you really want to learn

emmanuelewumi:


It is N50 million if you want to bid yourself, I buy through my bank and I allow to to bid for me. As a matter of fact I opened a Stanbic IBTC Bank account because of bond investments.


With N1 million they can bid for you in the monthly primary market offering, with about 200k they can bid for the in the secondary market which happens every business day

this will be on my mind

Bizibi:
this will be on my mind

Quote me on a dead thread so as not to derail this thread

emmanuelewumi:



Quote me on a dead thread so as not to derail this thread

sorry....my mistake.

What is this I am reading this morning from this thread. You want to learn how to report to mod.why not learn how to crash the site.This is why many ogas don't post again frequently on this thread. The thread goes for days without covering a page.You want free insider info.Why can't you go do research/findings and be posting for other to gain since you have entitlement mentality for free inputs. You have issues when those whose contribution is of great asset here dive a little to other investments vehicle.Then some who contributes nothing here only when politics is mentioned in between. Who I can bet has no stock portfolio is trying to be a guide to rubbish
Some ogas here have big heart to accommodate oh,I salute you guys
Pls big ogas when the audited results start rolling in,make u na no vex make u na put mouth for the result. We really appreciate your time and free inputs .I guise some don't know what it could cost to get them out thr or because they never paid school fees.You quote me anyhow we finish anyhow.

Dum20:


If you truly want to learn, then you will know that the thread is not being derailed by the discussion of bonds. You cannot study the stock market alone. And as he pointed out, you need to know when to sell your stocks to realise gains and where next to put the gains you got. Both bonds and stocks go together.

If you really want to learn

Warren Buffett said " stocks make you rich, while bonds keep you rich. Maybe that is why he is the most consistent member of the Forbes list. He has been on the list for decades



The first thing is to make it through equities and then keep it by diversifying some into fixed income investments.


Bonds and equities are the two major branches of the Financial Market

emmanuelewumi:




Warren Buffett said " stocks make you rich, while bonds keep you rich. Maybe that is why he is the most consistent member of the Forbes list. He has been on the list for decades



The first thing is to make it through equities and then keep it by diversifying some into fixed income investments.


Bonds and equities are the two major branches of the Financial Market

This is just the perfect recipe for sustainable wealth, well done sir!!!

emmanuelewumi:




Unilever is in a recovery mode, you may need to look into that stock if you are planning to hold it for a minimum of 12 months. And a stock in a recovery mode can easily do 100% and above. Please do your due diligence sha


The 2002 Q4 EPS was what the company made through out 2021.


There is a 95% probability that the 2023 EPS will grow by 150% compared to that of 2022

for unilever #10 is the best entry zone on support level, if u re speculating or jijoist u can exist if u see a breakdown below #9. #15.64 is the first resistance and sell area for jijoist and if it breakout on #16 a longterm holder can sell/exist at #25 and wait for next price action bcz there will be likely a pullback on that resistance

Streetinvestor2:


What is this I am reading this morning from this thread. You want to learn how to report to mod.why not learn how to crash the site.

.You quote me anyhow we finish anyhow.

Oga street, abeg carry dat shoulder come down small so you go receive d sense in wetin essentialone dey yarn.

Here na for stocks market, we neva even cover am wella , we don dey see dem jjc and old timers dey derail d thread. E no good nah. Na like so una do before wit dat yeye crypt0 until una quench on top am.

Dis thread na for stocks, carry bond matta go bond thread. shikena.
We go come dia join u wen we want.

Becos dem dey derail d thread, we no fit catch up wit coolcash for oando matter, current price for nahco and ask for how e go be for us wey get ardova wey wan delist.

Since dis days now, conoil dey fly, we no debate am here na yeye yeye bond and how to collect and submit d yeye forms dem take dey derail here. And pesin talk beta to help serious investors like me, u say bolekaja u go beat am. Go beat am for hin house na.

Abeg, no vex o but we go dey report una until una chop ban wella and stop dat nonsense.
Here na NSEMPA for stocks.

Na nahco I dey buy today, u nko?

Nigerialabalaba:

Oga street, abeg carry dat shoulder come down small so you go receive d sense in wetin essentialone dey yarn.

Here na for stocks market, we neva even cover am wella , we don dey see dem jjc and old timers dey derail d thread. E no good nah. Na like so una do before wit dat yeye crypt0 until una quench on top am.

Dis thread na for stocks, carry bond matta go bond thread. shikena.
We go come dia join u wen we want.

Becos dem dey derail d thread, we no fit catch up wit coolcash for oando matter, current price for nahco and ask for how e go be for us wey get ardova wey wan delist.

Since dis days now, conoil dey fly, we no debate am here na yeye yeye bond and how to collect and submit d yeye forms dem take dey derail here. And pesin talk beta to help serious investors like me, u say u go beat am. Go beat am for hin house na.

Abeg, no vex o but we go dey report una until una chop ban wella and stop dat nonsense.
Here na NSEMPA for stocks.

Na nahco I dey buy today, u nko?

Na today, you begin buy Nahco


Something wey people dey buy few months ago at around N4.00.


It even sold at less than N2.50k in 2020

emmanuelewumi:




Na today, you begin buy Nahco


Something wey people dey buy few months ago at around N4.00.


It even sold at less than N2.50k in 2020

Oga mi sir, d nahco wey I first buy na N2.20 I buy am and as I dey look am so dem fit give beta na so my church mind dey tell me say make I top am and my avarage fit fall between N5 and N6.

Wetin u dey buy Oga mi sir? For me now o, na nahco lo le shey

I agree say e fit dey too high for pesin wey miss nahco wen e cheap.

What app are you using

juniorrate:


for unilever #10 is the best entry zone on support level, if u re speculating or jijoist u can exist if u see a breakdown below #9. #15.64 is the first resistance and sell area for jijoist and if it breakout on #16 a longterm holder can sell/exist at #25 and wait for next price action bcz there will be likely a pullback on that resistance

Nigerialabalaba:
Oga mi sir, d nahco wey I first buy na N2.20 I buy am and as I dey look am so dem fit give beta na so my church mind dey tell me say make I top am and my avarage fit fall between N5 and N6.

Wetin u dey buy Oga mi sir? For me now o, na nahco lo le shey

I agree say e fit dey too high for pesin wey miss nahco wen e cheap.

If I may ask, which kain tool you dey use for your stock selection?



One of the tools, wey I dey use be say my dividend yield should be a minimum of 70% of the current yield on a 10 year bond. Current yield on a 10 year bond is about 14%

So I expect a minimum dividend yield of 9.8%, although this can be waived after digging deeper to unearth future earning growth potential of the business.


Whenever the dividend of a stock is equivalent to or higher than the yield on a 10 year bond, I think I have a stock selling at a discount after carrying out the necessary due diligences

Investing through stanbic especially anything order than treasury bill is hard. Thank God I have an alternative. I will just transfer my money. The only down side is just that its a secondary market thing but with at least N95,000 you can invest in bond through Standard Chartered. You don't have to call or even mail any relationship manager that will either not pick or reply your call/messages. Once you set up your app by yourself, you can do everything by yourself without contacting anyone.

Nigerialabalaba:
Oga mi sir, d nahco wey I first buy na N2.20 I buy am and as I dey look am so dem fit give beta na so my church mind dey tell me say make I top am and my avarage fit fall between N5 and N6.

Wetin u dey buy Oga mi sir? For me now o, na nahco lo le shey

I agree say e fit dey too high for pesin wey miss nahco wen e cheap.

while people dey average down, you are considering averaging up. Dey play

Be like say the Universal Insurance buyer don bellefull

we dey monitor.

jideflash:
Be like say the Universal Insurance buyer don bellefull

we dey monitor.

They gave me opportunity to jump out

Streetinvestor2:
What is this I am reading this morning from this thread. You want to learn how to report to mod.why not learn how to crash the site.This is why many ogas don't post again frequently on this thread. The thread goes for days without covering a page.You want free insider info.Why can't you go do research/findings and be posting for other to gain since you have entitlement mentality for free inputs. You have issues when those whose contribution is of great asset here dive a little to other investments vehicle.Then some who contributes nothing here only when politics is mentioned in between. Who I can bet has no stock portfolio is trying to be a guide to rubbish
Some ogas here have big heart to accommodate oh,I salute you guys
Pls big ogas when the audited results start rolling in,make u na no vex make u na put mouth for the result. We really appreciate your time and free inputs .I guise some don't know what it could cost to get them out thr or because they never paid school fees.You quote me anyhow we finish anyhow.

You truly be street. See as you dey puff shoulder to beat who you no know. Na just your phone or system you go end up smashing on the wall. E no pass like that. Meanwhile, calm down. How the market today? That Hero beer still dey ground okpata ooo. E price no gree move.

freeman67:
Investing through stanbic especially anything order than treasury bill is hard. Thank God I have an alternative. I will just transfer my money. The only down side is just that its a secondary market thing but with at least N95,000 you can invest in bond through Standard Chartered. You don't have to call or even mail any relationship manager that will either not pick or reply your call/messages. Once you set up your app by yourself, you can do everything by yourself without contacting anyone.

Who is the custodian of your investment? Is it the bank or it appeared in your CSCS statement

vacanci:


while people dey average down, you are considering averaging up. Dey play

Maybe that is how he plays his game

emmanuelewumi:




Maybe that is how he plays his game

also depends on what price he sees the stock getting to in the nearest future.

Nigerialabalaba:

Oga street, abeg carry dat shoulder come down small so you go receive d sense in wetin essentialone dey yarn.

Here na for stocks market, we neva even cover am wella , we don dey see dem jjc and old timers dey derail d thread. E no good nah. Na like so una do before wit dat yeye crypt0 until una quench on top am.

Dis thread na for stocks, carry bond matta go bond thread. shikena.
We go come dia join u wen we want.

Becos dem dey derail d thread, we no fit catch up wit coolcash for oando matter, current price for nahco and ask for how e go be for us wey get ardova wey wan delist.

Since dis days now, conoil dey fly, we no debate am herena yeye yeye bond and how to collect and submit d yeye forms dem take dey derail here. And pesin talk beta to help serious investors like me, u say bolekaja u go beat am. Go beat am for hin house na.

Abeg, no vex o but we go dey report una until una chop ban wella and stop dat nonsense.
Here na NSEMPA for stocks.

Na nahco I dey buy today, u nko?

On Conoil, I think CP or someone else highlighted it might get to 35 before the unaudited results was released. Seeing an EPS of 8naira and considering a payout ratio of 50% or more, at least 4naira dividend suppose drop if adenuga no de stingy this time

debeey87:


On Conoil, I think CP or someone else highlighted it might get to 35 before the unaudited results was released. Seeing an EPS of 8naira and considering a payout ratio of 50% or more, at least 4naira dividend suppose drop if adenuga no de stingy this time

That is possible with cash backed earnings, from past experience Conoil earnings are not backed by cash, reason why dividends were paid in October, ie 10 months after the financial year


I hope things are now better with the company sha

jideflash:
Be like say the Universal Insurance buyer don bellefull

we dey monitor.

Buying stage ended yesterday, dumping begins today. NSE nah foto in oga Sabinus voice.

OBAGADAFFI:


They gave me opportunity to jump out

You passed the baton to the new set of investors that will hold the kaya for another decade at 20kobo!

sharp guy

OBAGADAFFI:


They gave me opportunity to jump out

dumping with no gains.

seyisanya:
Buying stage ended yesterday, dumping begins today. NSE nah foto in oga Sabinus voice.

jideflash:
dumping with no gains.

It is the same way @OBAGADAFFI dumped his millions of units with no gain. Dumping get levels.

Joking aside, something is cooking in that stock. The activities in that stock of late is a pointer to something positive in the near future.