I think God said...


1 John 514 15 kjv


Pray and ask according to my will and it will be granted.

You don't just pray and ask something from God, there is a way to pray according to his will. And God won't do everything for you, he has given you power to chose right or wrong, righteousness or sin, Buhari or Goodluck and Tinubu or Obi.

JackDaAlienz:
In 2019, my mother was part of a charismatic prayer group that fasted for 2 weeks praying for Buhari not be elected.
Upon all the fasting, Buhari won

2023 she tried to force us to join her group for praying for Peter obi.
I told her that she is wasting her time

All the prayers she has been praying since 2019 for a better Nigeria, still Nigeria gets more messed up.

Today I caught her crying alone in dinning room, turns out she was crying because of election results

I asked her why her prayers didn't work upon all the fasting. She got angry and went to her room.

I have always said that prayers don't work, church is scam filled with fake testimony to decieve members

Prayer without action is nothing.

Officialgarri:
Even the Bible said , heaven helps those who helps themselves.
Same Bible also said , faith without work is death.

Tinubu has worked hard for years and is only reaping the fruits of not only his hardwork but smart work.

in other words: prayer is useless, just work hard and smart

JackDaAlienz:
In 2019, my mother was part of a charismatic prayer group that fasted for 2 weeks praying for Buhari not be elected.
Upon all the fasting, Buhari won

2023 she tried to force us to join her group for praying for Peter obi.
I told her that she is wasting her time

All the prayers she has been praying since 2019 for a better Nigeria, still Nigeria gets more messed up.

Today I caught her crying alone in dinning room, turns out she was crying because of election results

I asked her why her prayers didn't work upon all the fasting. She got angry and went to her room.

I have always said that prayers don't work, church is scam filled with fake testimony to decieve members

Saying prayers is useless nah because there is no GOD

Officialgarri:
Even the Bible said , heaven helps those who helps themselves.
Same Bible also said , faith without work is death.

Tinubu has worked hard for years and is only reaping the fruits of not only his hardwork but smart work.

and when you say heaven helps those who help themselves. Do u mean it was heaven that helped buhari & tinubu? And we are here blaming inec

Officialgarri:
Even the Bible said , heaven helps those who helps themselves.
Same Bible also said , faith without work is death.

Tinubu has worked hard for years and is only reaping the fruits of not only his hardwork but smart work.

Good morning sir...
Please can you show me where exactly in the Bible, the bolded is written?

HellVictorinho7:
the onus is on god 2 explain ,not man.

Onus my foot. You asked what it is you are to explain. You were told what to explain and now you are shifting it to God!

https://www.nairaland.com/6367965/universal-codesinverse-worldnature-science-etc
Study this thread

Oscarhakx:
and when you say heaven helps those who help themselves. Do u mean it was heaven that helped buhari & tinubu? And we are here blaming inec

It said who help themselves NOT who rig themselves

Fahvvy:


Good morning sir...
Please can you show me where exactly in the Bible, the bolded is written?

He didn't say it was written

JackDaAlienz:
In 2019, my mother was part of a charismatic prayer group that fasted for 2 weeks praying for Buhari not be elected.
Upon all the fasting, Buhari won

2023 she tried to force us to join her group for praying for Peter obi.
I told her that she is wasting her time

All the prayers she has been praying since 2019 for a better Nigeria, still Nigeria gets more messed up.

Today I caught her crying alone in dinning room, turns out she was crying because of election results

I asked her why her prayers didn't work upon all the fasting. She got angry and went to her room.

I have always said that prayers don't work, church is scam filled with fake testimony to decieve members

Same way you are praying for your person to win, same way others are praying for theirs too... don't you are the only one praying oo

PoliteActivist:


He didn't say it was written

You're simply avoiding the question sir ...

Where exactly did the bible say "Heaven helps those who helps themselves"?

PoliteActivist:


It said who help themselves NOT who rig themselves

So you want bible to literally write rig for you?? Ok here's its what it means, since you have refuse to evolve.
to take some of what you want, without asking permission – used especially when offering food to someone

Vinnie2000:


OP

In Reality, not ALL prayers that you pray that works.

In the Bible, Some Persons like Jesus' discples prayed without getting answers!

But know dat, Human Efforts MUST BE PUT BEFORE prayers!

E.g. If Your Relative has an accident, First thing to do is get Money ready for Hospital Bills, Meet and Try to obey the Doctors instructions B4 going for Prayers!

Pray without Work is Dead!

U have too much time

prophetic69:


Same way you are praying for your person to win, same way others are praying for theirs too... don't you are the only one praying oo

Leave am make he dey insult him mama...

morinto:

The church I attended previously was heavily polluted by marine spirit which I was aware. So doing a night prayer a particular preacher was praying against priscipalities and power operating in the church and I was the one shouting the highest amen when the prayer was going on. Omo as I reach House and sleep then I just appear at the front door of my church seeing one of my church members which is also a big woman in the church attacking to kill me In my dream. This woman started pressing me and I can see my heart beat detorating as somebody that is given up his ghost and I shouted Jesus then my heart beat started beating very fast again and then she started repressing me and my heart beat started reducing the second time as a dying person and I reshouted Jesus and my heart started beating fast then when she wanted to try it the third time I over power her and was able to break the pressing bond and wake up around 11:55 PM. That thing happen within 5 minutes as I slept in my bed as if she dey wait for me to sleep. When next she saw me physically shame want to kill her but as for now we just dey mind our business but sometimes she enter my dream boasting that she would make me useless for life and told me that even though I know she is a marine agent I can't prove it to people around.

Mtcheeeeeeeeeeww

I even thought you have a reasonable and good explanation.

I don’t like religious people. I don’t know why.
Their thinking faculty is very very annoying

Oscarhakx:
and when you say heaven helps those who help themselves. Do u mean it was heaven that helped buhari & tinubu? And we are here blaming inec

No matter how Christains try to turn things logically, it always come to hunt them and they always look like fools at last

JackDaAlienz:
In 2019, my mother was part of a charismatic prayer group that fasted for 2 weeks praying for Buhari not be elected.
Upon all the fasting, Buhari won

2023 she tried to force us to join her group for praying for Peter obi.
I told her that she is wasting her time

All the prayers she has been praying since 2019 for a better Nigeria, still Nigeria gets more messed up.

Today I caught her crying alone in dinning room, turns out she was crying because of election results

I asked her why her prayers didn't work upon all the fasting. She got angry and went to her room.

I have always said that prayers don't work, church is scam filled with fake testimony to decieve members

You are still a small boy. The time will come that you will labour in prayer is still coming. It is better you start now before it's too late.
I had an experience, when I went for my NYSC, the first few days was full of nightmares, the day I joined Deeper Life, the nightmare automatically stopped. My own was even better compared to one guy that always shout during his sleep and people will gather around to sympathize with him until he started going to church before he regains his sanity.

Oscarhakx:
So you want bible to literally write rig for you?? Ok here's its what it means, since you have refuse to evolve.
to take some of what you want, without asking permission – used especially when offering food to someone

My brother. You sef they see am as they are struggling to defend their points

Gboom:

You are still a small boy. The time will come that you will labour in prayer is still coming. It is better you start now before it's too late.
I had an experience, when I went for my NYSC, the first few days was full of nightmares, the day I joined Deeper Life, the nightmare automatically stopped. My own was even better compared to one guy that always shout during his sleep and people will gather around to sympathize with him until he started going to church before he regains his sanity.

Lol

Tbh, I am not really convinced with the points you people are giving as Christains.

emmaodet:


Lol

Tbh, I am not really convinced with the points you people are giving as Christains.

A man that has reached a high level of political position received an invincible slap one day and his mouth twisted to one side, he knew it was not ordinary, he ran to the church and was healed after several deliverance prayers. In fact he became influential in the church to the extent that he was one those that prevailed against El Rufai not to demolish the church when the latter was a minister.

The president elect Asiwaju Tinubu gave a testimony of how Pastor Adeboye prayed for him when he had a persistent headache when he was a governor in Lagos state

morinto:

The church I attended previously was heavily polluted by marine spirit which I was aware. So doing a night prayer a particular preacher was praying against priscipalities and power operating in the church and I was the one shouting the highest amen when the prayer was going on. Omo as I reach House and sleep then I just appear at the front door of my church seeing one of my church members which is also a big woman in the church attacking to kill me In my dream. This woman started pressing me and I can see my heart beat detorating as somebody that is given up his ghost and I shouted Jesus then my heart beat started beating very fast again and then she started repressing me and my heart beat started reducing the second time as a dying person and I reshouted Jesus and my heart started beating fast then when she wanted to try it the third time I over power her and was able to break the pressing bond and wake up around 11:55 PM. That thing happen within 5 minutes as I slept in my bed as if she dey wait for me to sleep. When next she saw me physically shame want to kill her but as for now we just dey mind our business but sometimes she enter my dream boasting that she would make me useless for life and told me that even though I know she is a marine agent I can't prove it to people around.

emmaodet:




No matter how Christains try to turn things logically, it always come to hunt them and they always look like fools at last

Their logic are funny, annoying and fraustrating all at once. I tire for them

emmaodet:


My brother. You sef they see am as they are struggling to defend their points

My brother I shock o

Oscarhakx:
So you want bible to literally write rig for you?? Ok here's its what it means, since you have refuse to evolve.
to take some of what you want, without asking permission – used especially when offering food to someone

Anyways, no such thing is written in any version of the Bible. Search till eternity you won't find the "help themselves" quote in the Bible!

Fahvvy:


You're simply avoiding the question sir ...

Where exactly did the bible say "Heaven helps those who helps themselves"?

It said it without writing it - everybody whom heaven helped in the Bible did something, made a move. They didn't just sit at home!

PoliteActivist:


It said it without writing it - everybody whom heaven helped in the Bible did something, made a move. They didn't just sit at home!

Could you give me instances of those "everybody" you're referring to, I'm genuinely interested in learning ...

PoliteActivist:


Onus my foot. You asked what it is you are to explain. You were told what to explain and now you are shifting it to God!

shifted because i am not associated with miracles.

Fahvvy:


Could you give me instances of those "everybody" you're referring to, I'm genuinely interested in learning ...

I mean literally everybody, any example you can think of. It always starts with the person that was helped - even if it was just having faith.

PoliteActivist:


I mean literally everybody, any example you can think of. It always starts with the person that was helped - even if it was just having faith.

You're shifting the goal post sir ...

First off, you agreed that "the bible said that heaven helps those who helped themselves"...

And when I inquired where exactly this was written, you said "it (the bible) said it without writing it" ....

Now I'm asking you to show me where exactly in the bible the bible said "it" without "writing it...

And now you're talking about "faith" ...

Please sir...
If you can't support your statements with empirical evidence (scriptural in this case), you'd better not make a statement, especially in a public platform ..

There is no where in the bible where it says or implies that "heaven helps those who helps themselves, NO WHERE!!

Think about it for a second, if you could help yourself, why would you even need the help of another?!! ...

A man who is well, doesn't need a doctor (Matt. 9:12, Lk. 5:31, Mk 2:17)...

If you leave your house and go to a doctor, it's not a proof that you're helping yourself, rather it's proof that you believe that the doctor can help you - if you could indeed help yourself, you wouldn't even bother going to see a doctor ...

So your ability to "help yourself" and having faith that God can help you are two different things sir, so don't mix it up!!! ...

Fahvvy:


You're shifting the goal post sir ...

First off, you agreed that "the bible said that heaven helps those who helped themselves"...

And when I inquired where exactly this was written, you said "it (the bible) said it without writing it" ....

Now I'm asking you to show me where exactly in the bible the bible said "it" without "writing it...

And now you're talking about "faith" ...

Please sir...
If you can't support your statements with empirical evidence (scriptural in this case), you'd better not make a statement, especially in a public platform ..

There is no where in the bible where it says or implies that "heaven helps those who helps themselves, NO WHERE!!

Think about it for a second, if you could help yourself, why would you even need the help of another?!! ...

A man who is well, doesn't need a doctor (Matt. 9:12, Lk. 5:31, Mk 2:17)...

If you leave your house and go to a doctor, it's not a proof that you're helping yourself, rather it's proof that you believe that the doctor can help you - if you could indeed help yourself, you wouldn't even bother going to see a doctor ...

So your ability to "help yourself" and having faith that God can help you are two different things sir, so don't mix it up!!! ...

And that's where we can agree to disagree - except that mine makes more sense. You say having faith is not helping yourself.
I say it is.
If it is not, how come it is the ONLY basis why Christ could not perform major miracles in his hometown??

You are a very foolish son. Let me inform you that one day your mother will die and her prayers which is now covering you will seize and then you will learn the benefit and potency of prayers. Your post made me cry when I narrated it to some one. You made your mother that woman of prayer to cry mocking her prayers? Go back and apologize to her if you love self and next time kept your atheism and skepticism to yourself don't disturb your mother she knows her journey is shorter and trying to keep fit you who think you will live forever keep doubting prayers very soon you will be asking for prayers