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Re: The Eternal Synagogue Of The Civilized (atheist Movement) by FRANCISTOWN: 8:25pm On Mar 02, 2023 |
Dtruthspeaker:On this : please read the quoted again, but this time, very slowly. Dtruthspeaker: How do you know about what doesn't belong to you? Dtruthspeaker: Even your God attested to it that he forgets stuffs, in Isaiah 43:26 your God speaking, he said "...put me in rememberance of my words" my question here is, do you remind someone who doesn't forget things? Also in Exo 2:24 " ... and God remembered His covenant with Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob." Again when speaking to Moses in Exodus 6:5 "... and I have remembered My covenant." Question 2: Anyone who needs to remember is liable to forget stuffs, now can someone who forgets stuffs be referred to as an omniscient? If you argued further than he doesn't forget stuff. Then he doesn't have the knowledge of how and what it feels like to forget stuffs (Thus not omniscient) Dtruthspeaker:Nope! That wasn't fair-hearing , That was being total clueless Dtruthspeaker:What proof do you have that I was created to please the Lord, what if the Lord was created to please me? Well if your God created you with all your body parts complete, then you must be really special and a man born blind must be so not special. Great attribute of an Omnibenevolent God 2 Likes |
Re: The Eternal Synagogue Of The Civilized (atheist Movement) by Aemmyjah(m): 8:45pm On Mar 02, 2023 |
jaephoenix: How did Man came to be? Why are we here? What does the future hold? |
Re: The Eternal Synagogue Of The Civilized (atheist Movement) by Kobojunkie: 8:51pm On Mar 02, 2023 |
FRANCISTOWN:You subjected yourself to a scam for 18 years. Without evidence of any kind, you fell for and lived a lie for 18 years — no doubts or questions. Then, according to you, written by a man to cause the scales to fall from your eyes. How do you know you didn't instead fall right in the middle of yet another scam? |
Re: The Eternal Synagogue Of The Civilized (atheist Movement) by akwesenana: 8:57pm On Mar 02, 2023 |
FRANCISTOWN:Difficult to answer. I'll say some of the unexpalainable phenomena like the solar system points to a supernatural force. |
Re: The Eternal Synagogue Of The Civilized (atheist Movement) by Kobojunkie: 8:58pm On Mar 02, 2023 |
FRANCISTOWN:Um... "In the beginning" as indicated in Genesis 1 vs 1 is a reference to the beginning of creation as we know it, not the beginning of God Himself. |
Re: The Eternal Synagogue Of The Civilized (atheist Movement) by akwesenana: 9:02pm On Mar 02, 2023 |
Kobojunkie:So, when did God begin. |
Re: The Eternal Synagogue Of The Civilized (atheist Movement) by Kobojunkie: 10:03pm On Mar 02, 2023 |
akwesenana:Scripture says instead that He has no beginning. So tell me, how can there be a beginning for one who we are told has no beginning? |
Re: The Eternal Synagogue Of The Civilized (atheist Movement) by akwesenana: 10:26pm On Mar 02, 2023 |
Kobojunkie:How can someone/something not have a beginning? 1 Like |
Re: The Eternal Synagogue Of The Civilized (atheist Movement) by Kobojunkie: 10:53pm On Mar 02, 2023 |
akwesenana:Is there a law that mandates that all must have a beginning? Newton's first Law, for example, insists instead that matter cannot be created nor destroyed implying that matter has no begining to it in our context. Maybe you should start there. |
Re: The Eternal Synagogue Of The Civilized (atheist Movement) by akwesenana: 11:01pm On Mar 02, 2023 |
Kobojunkie:Newtons law talks about energy not matter. Energy and matter are 2 dissimiliar things. It is apparently illogical to say that someone/something has no beginning. 1 Like |
Re: The Eternal Synagogue Of The Civilized (atheist Movement) by Kobojunkie: 11:03pm On Mar 02, 2023 |
akwesenana:You go school at all? The Law of conservation of Mass/Matter has been changed?, |
Re: The Eternal Synagogue Of The Civilized (atheist Movement) by akwesenana: 11:11pm On Mar 02, 2023 |
Kobojunkie:Energy can't be created nor destroyed but converted. I'll ignore your ill words. |
Re: The Eternal Synagogue Of The Civilized (atheist Movement) by Kobojunkie: 11:22pm On Mar 02, 2023 |
akwesenana:Get back to the topic abeg! |
Re: The Eternal Synagogue Of The Civilized (atheist Movement) by akwesenana: 11:23pm On Mar 02, 2023 |
The progess of a society can be determined by their views on philosophy/critical thinking. To some people, any questions on religion is simply heresy. 2 Likes |
Re: The Eternal Synagogue Of The Civilized (atheist Movement) by akwesenana: 11:25pm On Mar 02, 2023 |
Kobojunkie:Why you dey vex? I'm here to learn not argue. |
Re: The Eternal Synagogue Of The Civilized (atheist Movement) by Kobojunkie: 11:29pm On Mar 02, 2023 |
akwesenana:I no vex. Would rather we not deviate any further. |
Re: The Eternal Synagogue Of The Civilized (atheist Movement) by FRANCISTOWN: 8:02am On Mar 03, 2023 |
HellVictorinho7: That's what theists do. They'll beat their children almost to death if they refused to learn another man's language (a language that's not even official in Nigeria). They'll threaten people with hell, with devil and demons and ghosts and bad luck and all. However, this is what myself and many people (though not speaking for everyone) press to achieve. To raise doubt in people's mind, to encourage people to wake up to reality, to let people understand that sending rescue teams to flooded areas is effective rathering prayers. Lemme borrow from Phil Plait who said, “Give a man a truth, and he will think for a day. Teach a man to reason, and he will think for a lifetime.” The purpose of this movement is to teach people how to reason. 1 Like |
Re: The Eternal Synagogue Of The Civilized (atheist Movement) by FRANCISTOWN: 8:07am On Mar 03, 2023 |
LordReed:This is true, Religion may not really go into extinction in our lifetime, but we'll be sure to devaluate it and make it loose popularity. 2 Likes |
Re: The Eternal Synagogue Of The Civilized (atheist Movement) by FRANCISTOWN: 8:16am On Mar 03, 2023 |
Kobojunkie: Siddhartha Guatama Buddha, a man of great wisdom said "Believe nothing, no matter where you read it, or who said it, no matter if I have said it, unless it agrees with your own reason and your own common sense." 1 Like |
Re: The Eternal Synagogue Of The Civilized (atheist Movement) by FRANCISTOWN: 8:18am On Mar 03, 2023 |
akwesenana: What questions do you have about the solar system, it is well comprehensible enough |
Re: The Eternal Synagogue Of The Civilized (atheist Movement) by HellVictorinho7: 8:19am On Mar 03, 2023 |
FRANCISTOWN:it is a matter of chance for them to change when they see you as ignorant or stubborn or proud or useless for being a non-theist. If my older brother still believes despite his misery , then sorrow stays with me too. Jashub,on nairaland, never feels what my brother endures outside this forum,jashub never feels god either, he only repeats things as theists do. |
Re: The Eternal Synagogue Of The Civilized (atheist Movement) by Kobojunkie: 8:19am On Mar 03, 2023 |
FRANCISTOWN:You go around creating your own reason and commonsense? We can all equally do that so why must you inundate us with what are your personal drivels? Anyways, none of that answers my question. You seemed to have been in agreement with the scam up until when the point at which you came upon what is possibly another scam. How do you know you haven't simply been caught in a different set of webs this time around with the another scam? |
Re: The Eternal Synagogue Of The Civilized (atheist Movement) by HellVictorinho7: 8:23am On Mar 03, 2023 |
Kobojunkie:evidence that it was stated by newton? |
Re: The Eternal Synagogue Of The Civilized (atheist Movement) by HellVictorinho7: 8:26am On Mar 03, 2023 |
Kobojunkie:she did not come upon another scam |
Re: The Eternal Synagogue Of The Civilized (atheist Movement) by FRANCISTOWN: 8:27am On Mar 03, 2023 |
Kobojunkie: Then Gen 1:1 should have be written as "In the beginning of the creation, God created heaven and Earth" Sir! Don't add to the Bible, in the begining means in the begining, don't add "Creation" to it. 1 Like |
Re: The Eternal Synagogue Of The Civilized (atheist Movement) by Kobojunkie: 8:30am On Mar 03, 2023 |
FRANCISTOWN:1. LOL... so even though it is pretty self explanatory as is, you reject it because it wasn't expressed exactly as you would have preferred? 2. LOL.... now you even accuse me of adding? |
Re: The Eternal Synagogue Of The Civilized (atheist Movement) by FRANCISTOWN: 8:56am On Mar 03, 2023 |
Kobojunkie: When you want to answer an atheist, it is best not to quote from your religious books( Because they are fake and the contents cannot be verified) It is better to use things with irrefutable proofs. For instance when you place a cup of very hot coffee in a room. 2hrs later the temperature of the coffee in the cup is almost the same with the room temperature. This is a testable hard evidence that even the blind, the deaf , the mute , as long as you are alive and breathing can verify, there by satisfying the 2nd law of thermodynamics. 3 Likes |
Re: The Eternal Synagogue Of The Civilized (atheist Movement) by Kobojunkie: 9:01am On Mar 03, 2023 |
FRANCISTOWN:1. You just typed up here makes no sense of any kind. You argued that a statement found in scripture --- Genesis 1 vs 1 -- is erroneous based on your digest of it, and I pointed out that elsewhere in scripture you are also told that the God referenced has no beginning. What that means is your conclusion of what is presented in Genesis 1 vs 1 is flawed. |
Re: The Eternal Synagogue Of The Civilized (atheist Movement) by HellVictorinho7: 9:07am On Mar 03, 2023 |
FRANCISTOWN:u r not making sense by arguing bible stuff ,that is what keeps religion, at the end ,they will say u do not understand english, can't u see how they avoid questions that will make them rethink? Kobojunkie,budaatum, etc they can as well deny their existence. |
Re: The Eternal Synagogue Of The Civilized (atheist Movement) by Dtruthspeaker: 9:26am On Mar 03, 2023 |
FRANCISTOWN: I know what belongs to me therefore I can know what belongs to another person who owns a thing. FRANCISTOWN: You also remind a person who has casted/put a thing aside. Cast aside/put aside is not a forgetting. FRANCISTOWN: Now you did not show how it is not a fairhearing thing but only just resorted to hang on to your bias, which is proof that you have no counter. Also you did not rebut the other facts of "conviction of crime, trial and judgement means and the pleasure of creating" I pleaded, which also proves that you do not have any counter to them. FRANCISTOWN: You did not create yourself exactly as your robot/mannequin did not create themselves, Someone else created you. Secondly, your robots/mannequins can not and did not create you, so also is it impossible that you created The Lord. Thirdly, you were happy (pleased) when you created the robots/mannequin and every move they made according to your plan, made you happy (please). And where they did anything that displeased you, you smashed them to pieces or abandoned them (punishment). So this is just you lamenting the fact that you are a toy to God and most especially as you already know that He is angry with you and is therefore going to destroy you. |
Re: The Eternal Synagogue Of The Civilized (atheist Movement) by FRANCISTOWN: 9:36am On Mar 03, 2023 |
Kobojunkie: °Matter is different from energy. °Matter contains energy but energy does not contain matter. ° A car has an engine, but an engine does not have a car. °An engine has some rotatory bodies, likwise a car has some rotatory bodies, but can we say they are the same because they both have rotatory bodies? °That both matter and energy can't be created nor destroyed doesn't make both the same. °Energy is responsible for the state of matter, matter is not responsible for the state of energy °When you apply a certain level of heat energy to ice, it melts into liquid(changes the state to liquid) when you apply a more certain level of heat energy, the liquid changes to vapour. Q.E.D |
Re: The Eternal Synagogue Of The Civilized (atheist Movement) by Dtruthspeaker: 9:44am On Mar 03, 2023 |
FRANCISTOWN: See, you said "it dropped off your pocket/may be stolen" that is proof of Scienta 'You Know/You knew what happened or what shall happen to them". FRANCISTOWN: Did you not see that I said "omnipresence does not mean stuck? That is how stuck you are on the wrongs that have killed you. |
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