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Re: I'm Beginning To Reason With Jehovah Witness On Their Stand Concerning Trinity by MaxInDHouse(m): 7:09am On Mar 28, 2023
So in a nutshell you're not one of those going to speak with your neighbours in their homes to preach about God's Kingdom as Jesus commanded his own disciples. Matthew 10:11-13
Thanks for your time! smiley

brocab:

If a neighbor knocks on my door to tell me about end time events-then of course I would listen-my neighbor is one like me he believes in God, I don't have atheist strangers coming to my door telling me the world is going to end.
Re: I'm Beginning To Reason With Jehovah Witness On Their Stand Concerning Trinity by brocab: 1:07am On Mar 29, 2023
{Matthew 10:1-13} Whatever town or village you enter, search there for some worthy person and stay at their house until you leave. 12 As you enter the home, give it your greeting. 13 If the home is deserving, let your peace rest on it; if it is not, let your peace return to you.
What does Matthew chapter 10 verse 11 mean?
Jesus has told them not to take any extra provisions with them. God will provide all they need through the people they minister to in each town. They must not charge for their services of healing and preaching, but they should expect those who are helped to offer them hospitality and provision.

As we read it: it say's as you enter into a town or village search there until you find someone worthy to stay at the there home.
This does not mean go door knocking. This man was street preaching before he found somebody worthy enough the stay with them.. .
MaxInDHouse:
So in a nutshell you're not one of those going to speak with your neighbours in their homes to preach about God's Kingdom as Jesus commanded his own disciples. Matthew 10:11-13
Thanks for your time! smiley

Re: I'm Beginning To Reason With Jehovah Witness On Their Stand Concerning Trinity by brocab: 1:20am On Mar 29, 2023
What I don't understand about you: is that you stand up for a organisation that has told you, you are under a curse because of your color: you are already branded as an outcast-they have no place for you to serve, they refuse to recognize you even exist: and you accept that rubbish-from an organisation that won't give you time of day, expecting you to go door knocking putting your life at risk, all the name of Jehovah {Not Jesus} so you can earn your way into the new Earth, you believe Jehovah will grant you to become white.
Jesus wasn't white, blacker then most people-and you are told you aren't worthy enough to be classed as a proper member of the Watchtower because your color is black.
You aren't doing yourself any good: trying to fight for the Watchtower-if you became a Born Again christian we accept all color with respect."Everyone is not above the other, it doesn't matter who are Elders Pastors Teachers claim to be-we are or equal in the eye's of God..
MaxInDHouse:


You're a real clown! cheesy

So a neighbour who knocks on your door to tell you what he knew about current events and things that's about to happen is disturbing you shey? cheesy
Dude stop deceiving yourself, you must go and tell your neighbour anything you know like impending calamity that could affect him if you truly love your neighbour {Mark 12:31} but then you must greet, introduce yourself before telling him or her why you came visiting uninvited {Matthew 10:12} if he's not in the mood then you have to find another appropriate time but when you start shouting in a bus or street corner that's noise pollution! Matthew 12:19 wink
Re: I'm Beginning To Reason With Jehovah Witness On Their Stand Concerning Trinity by MaxInDHouse(m): 6:57am On Mar 29, 2023
brocab:
{Matthew 10:1-13} Whatever town or village you enter, search there for some worthy person and stay at their house until you leave. 12 As you enter the home, give it your greeting. 13 If the home is deserving, let your peace rest on it; if it is not, let your peace return to you.
What does Matthew chapter 10 verse 11 mean?
Jesus has told them not to take any extra provisions with them. God will provide all they need through the people they minister to in each town. They must not charge for their services of healing and preaching, but they should expect those who are helped to offer them hospitality and provision.

As we read it: it say's as you enter into a town or village search there until you find someone worthy to stay at the there home. This does not mean go door knocking. This man was street preaching before he found somebody worthy enough the stay with them.. .

So it's in the street corners you should start noise pollution {Matthew 12:19} instead of knocking to greet the householder shey?

Keep deceiving yourself! cheesy

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Re: I'm Beginning To Reason With Jehovah Witness On Their Stand Concerning Trinity by MaxInDHouse(m): 6:59am On Mar 29, 2023
Ọmọ continue dreaming in your head i don't care as long as God's organization is performing as Jesus foretold! smiley

brocab:
What I don't understand about you: is that you stand up for a organisation that has told you, you are under a curse because of your color: you are already branded as an outcast-they have no place for you to serve, they refuse to recognize you even exist: and you accept that rubbish-from an organisation that won't give you time of day, expecting you to go door knocking putting your life at risk, all the name of Jehovah {Not Jesus} so you can earn your way into the new Earth, you believe Jehovah will grant you to become white.
Jesus wasn't white, blacker then most people-and you are told you aren't worthy enough to be classed as a proper member of the Watchtower because your color is black.
You aren't doing yourself any good: trying to fight for the Watchtower-if you became a Born Again christian we accept all color with respect."Everyone is not above the other, it doesn't matter who are Elders Pastors Teachers claim to be-we are or equal in the eye's of God..
Re: I'm Beginning To Reason With Jehovah Witness On Their Stand Concerning Trinity by brocab: 11:10am On Mar 29, 2023
Unfortunately that is what the scripture is telling us. But you would prefer to twist it just to satisfy yourselves.
There is no where in the bible where it say's we all must go door knocking.
{Luke 10:5-7}, we find direct instruction from Christ not to preach from house to house: “And into whatsoever house you enter, first say, Peace be to this ...
So obviously you are practicing something that is not scriptural..And on top of all that 'you are trying to force people to risk their own lives serving the Watchtower-door to door knocking is not scriptural, especially with the organisation you claim is right, it's members are obviously under a curse disobeying the Word of God.
MaxInDHouse:


So it's in the street corners you should start noise pollution {Matthew 12:19} instead of knocking to greet the householder shey?

Keep deceiving yourself! cheesy
Re: I'm Beginning To Reason With Jehovah Witness On Their Stand Concerning Trinity by brocab: 11:28am On Mar 29, 2023
Are non-Jewish believers in a Jewish Messiah (Jesus Christ) considered the people of God? Yes.
Jesus came for all mankind, not just to save Israel {Romans 1:16, 10:12; Galatians 3:28}
The relationship of God to His people is more than His calling; they also call Him their God.
David says, “I know, my God, that you test the heart and are pleased with integrity.
All these things have I given willingly and with honest intent.
And now I have seen with joy how willingly your people who are here have given to you” {1 Chronicles 29:17}
Here, God’s people are identified more by their willingness to give themselves to Him than by their nationality.

Anyone who accepts Jesus Christ as Savior and Lord becomes a part of the people of God.
The relationship does not come through church attendance or good deeds.
It is a deliberate choice to follow God alone.
That is why {2 Corinthians 6:16, Mark 8:38} both indicate that a choice has to be made.
And when we make that choice to embrace God, He embraces us as well. Then we truly are His people.
The Watchtower is knowing by their works door knocking and their faithful commitment towards the Watchtower organisation they attend their temple each Sabbath.
So without your faithfulness towards Christ: you are not saved..We don't come in the name of Jehovah he can't save you. We come in the name of Jesus, He can save you.
MaxInDHouse:
Ọmọ continue dreaming in your head i don't care as long as God's organization is performing as Jesus foretold! smiley

Re: I'm Beginning To Reason With Jehovah Witness On Their Stand Concerning Trinity by MaxInDHouse(m): 12:44pm On Mar 29, 2023
brocab:
Unfortunately that is what the scripture is telling us. But you would prefer to twist it just to satisfy yourselves.
There is no where in the bible where it say's we all must go door knocking.
{Luke 10:5-7}, we find direct instruction from Christ not to preach from house to house: “And into whatsoever house you enter, first say, Peace be to this ...
So obviously you are practicing something that is not scriptural..And on top of all that 'you are trying to force people to risk their own lives serving the Watchtower-door to door knocking is not scriptural, especially with the organisation you claim is right, it's members are obviously under a curse disobeying the Word of God.
Jesus never shouted in the streets! Matthew 12:19
So go and practice whatever pleases you! cheesy
Re: I'm Beginning To Reason With Jehovah Witness On Their Stand Concerning Trinity by MaxInDHouse(m): 12:46pm On Mar 29, 2023
Faith must have WORKS! James 2:18-26

Present the works of your faith. cheesy

brocab:
Are non-Jewish believers in a Jewish Messiah (Jesus Christ) considered the people of God? Yes.
Jesus came for all mankind, not just to save Israel {Romans 1:16, 10:12; Galatians 3:28}
The relationship of God to His people is more than His calling; they also call Him their God.
David says, “I know, my God, that you test the heart and are pleased with integrity.
All these things have I given willingly and with honest intent.
And now I have seen with joy how willingly your people who are here have given to you” {1 Chronicles 29:17}
Here, God’s people are identified more by their willingness to give themselves to Him than by their nationality.

Anyone who accepts Jesus Christ as Savior and Lord becomes a part of the people of God.
The relationship does not come through church attendance or good deeds.
It is a deliberate choice to follow God alone.
That is why {2 Corinthians 6:16, Mark 8:38} both indicate that a choice has to be made.
And when we make that choice to embrace God, He embraces us as well. Then we truly are His people.
The Watchtower is knowing by their works door knocking and their faithful commitment towards the Watchtower organisation they attend their temple each Sabbath.
So without your faithfulness towards Christ: you are not saved..We don't come in the name of Jehovah he can't save you. We come in the name of Jesus, He can save you.

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Re: I'm Beginning To Reason With Jehovah Witness On Their Stand Concerning Trinity by brocab: 1:08am On Mar 31, 2023
What is the youth lesson on {James 2 14 26}
James says that saving faith is proven to those who observe our lives by what we do, not based on what we say.
If a person's actions do not display a changed life for Jesus Christ, then his claim to be faithful to the Lord is dead.
Faith without works is dead in Christ, JW, your faith with your work's relies only upon Jehovah-there's a difference, you don't walk with Christ-you deny His name: and His Word.
MaxInDHouse:
Faith must have WORKS! James 2:18-26

Present the works of your faith. cheesy

Re: I'm Beginning To Reason With Jehovah Witness On Their Stand Concerning Trinity by brocab: 1:35am On Mar 31, 2023
Jesus taught His Word on the road while he was travelling, He taught the people in the mountains, feeding the 5000, He taught in the towns villages, even to the Samaritans, He was witnessing to His disciples everyday teaching them the Word of God-how about the miracles these were definitely a witness to the people, so yes Jesus made noise he made Himself known to everybody that He is I AM the SON OF GOD.
Jesus had the right authority to claim His rightful place-Matthew tells of a messiah who will be called “Jesus, for he will save his people from their sins” and also be called “Immanuel, which means God with us.”
{Isaiah 9:6} also taught, "his name shall be called Wonderful Counselor, Mighty God, Everlasting Father, Prince of Peace."
{Isaiah 7:14} predicted, "Therefore the Lord himself will give you a sign. Behold, the virgin shall conceive and bear a son, and shall call his name Immanuel." In the New Testament,
{Matthew 1:22-23} confirms that the birth of Jesus fulfilled this important prophecy. Of course I now expect you to deny Jesus: so Faith and Works without Christ is dead. Jesus is known by many Names. Just like His Father He is known by Many Names.
MaxInDHouse:

Jesus never shouted in the streets! Matthew 12:19
So go and practice whatever pleases you! cheesy
Re: I'm Beginning To Reason With Jehovah Witness On Their Stand Concerning Trinity by MaxInDHouse(m): 6:34am On Mar 31, 2023
brocab:
What is the youth lesson on {James 2 14 26}
James says that saving faith is proven to those who observe our lives by what we do, not based on what we say.
If a person's actions do not display a changed life for Jesus Christ, then his claim to be faithful to the Lord is dead.
Faith without works is dead in Christ, JW, your faith with your work's relies only upon Jehovah-there's a difference, you don't walk with Christ-you deny His name: and His Word.

You failed once again!

Masqueraders, Traditionalists, Buddhists, Jews, Hindus and Muslims do have kind and faithful members in their midst but their faith in general that's not producing fine WORKS.
So if you say you're working out fine as a person many faithfuls in various religions are also doing fine individually but it's the WORKS of their faith in general that has nothing to write home about.
That's what James is saying! wink
Re: I'm Beginning To Reason With Jehovah Witness On Their Stand Concerning Trinity by MaxInDHouse(m): 6:38am On Mar 31, 2023
brocab:
Jesus taught His Word on the road while he was travelling, He taught the people in the mountains, feeding the 5000, He taught in the towns villages, even to the Samaritans, He was witnessing to His disciples everyday teaching them the Word of God-how about the miracles these were definitely a witness to the people, so yes Jesus made noise he made Himself known to everybody that He is I AM the SON OF GOD.
Jesus had the right authority to claim His rightful place-Matthew tells of a messiah who will be called “Jesus, for he will save his people from their sins” and also be called “Immanuel, which means God with us.”
{Isaiah 9:6} also taught, "his name shall be called Wonderful Counselor, Mighty God, Everlasting Father, Prince of Peace."
{Isaiah 7:14} predicted, "Therefore the Lord himself will give you a sign. Behold, the virgin shall conceive and bear a son, and shall call his name Immanuel." In the New Testament,
{Matthew 1:22-23} confirms that the birth of Jesus fulfilled this important prophecy. Of course I now expect you to deny Jesus: so Faith and Works without Christ is dead. Jesus is known by many Names. Just like His Father He is known by Many Names.

YES! Jesus taught ONLY those who are willing to listen to him so they came to him and sit on the ground to hear him not unwilling pedestrians and passengers that your noise is disturbing! Matthew 12:19 wink

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Re: I'm Beginning To Reason With Jehovah Witness On Their Stand Concerning Trinity by brocab: 11:45pm On Mar 31, 2023
There were heaps of unwilling pedestrians on the Streets when Jesus preached: the Pharisees the lawyers and the scribes questioned Jesus every time they listened to Jesus preach..
If you were to read the scriptures yourself you would know there were unwilling people fronting Jesus every chance they could..
The Pharisees planned to destroy Jesus: while Jesus spoke His Word: eventually they crucified Him-now these were unwillingly priest who stood their ground against Jesus.
MaxInDHouse:


YES! Jesus taught ONLY those who are willing to listen to him so they came to him and sit on the ground to hear him not unwilling pedestrians and passengers that your noise is disturbing! Matthew 12:19 wink
Re: I'm Beginning To Reason With Jehovah Witness On Their Stand Concerning Trinity by brocab: 12:07am On Apr 01, 2023
James says that saving faith is proven to those who observe our lives by what we do, not based on what we say.
If a person's actions do not display a changed life for Jesus Christ, then his claim to be faithful to the Lord is dead.
I don't here the JW's preach about Christ very often, matter of fact: very little: your main focus is upon Jehovah, the Watchtower only witnesses in Jehovah's name: not in Jesus Name: so who's faith do you serve JW? does it belong to the Buddhists, Jews, Hindus and Muslims-all these had refused Jesus: you believe these are faithful members in their midst is not producing fine WORKS.
Where is your faith and works for Christ: that not even you preach His Name to the nations:
You belong to a organisation called the Watchtower, where in fact it's known to the public as a cult: so the name watchtower only means something to their members: not the nations, it is a proven fact the Watchtower refuses Christ and replaced Him with Jehovah: calling on Jehovah's name to save you and serve.
Where is your faith JW obviously not in Jesus-do you honestly believe your faith is in Christ heart soul and mind: where it is a fact you serve another, not Jesus: you put all your faith in Jehovah.We don't have two masters: God gave all His authority to Jesus-you either hate the one or love the other. so who have you given your faith to JW?
MaxInDHouse:


You failed once again!

Masqueraders, Traditionalists, Buddhists, Jews, Hindus and Muslims do have kind and faithful members in their midst but their faith in general that's not producing fine WORKS.
So if you say you're working out fine as a person many faithfuls in various religions are also doing fine individually but it's the WORKS of their faith in general that has nothing to write home about.
That's what James is saying! wink
Re: I'm Beginning To Reason With Jehovah Witness On Their Stand Concerning Trinity by MaxInDHouse(m): 1:02am On Apr 01, 2023
brocab:
There were heaps of unwilling pedestrians on the Streets when Jesus preached: the Pharisees the lawyers and the scribes questioned Jesus every time they listened to Jesus preach..
If you were to read the scriptures yourself you would know there were unwilling people fronting Jesus every chance they could..
The Pharisees planned to destroy Jesus: while Jesus spoke His Word: eventually they crucified Him-now these were unwillingly priest who stood their ground against Jesus.

According to the Bible people gather to listen to what Jesus has to say and Pharisees also come not that Jesus was shouting to unwilling pedestrians. Read what Matthew penned down again before arguing blindly against the truth! Matthew 12:19 smiley
Re: I'm Beginning To Reason With Jehovah Witness On Their Stand Concerning Trinity by MaxInDHouse(m): 1:08am On Apr 01, 2023
You enemy of faith in Jesus!

Aren't you the same person who said JWs should be pushed to the war front whereas they don't want to be part of those killing their fellow believers like you and your cohorts who are claiming you use weapons for protecting yourselves from your neighbours.

So between JWs who won't lift up weapons against anyone and you that believe you should use weapons who truly believe in Jesus? Matthew 5:43-48 smiley

brocab:
James says that saving faith is proven to those who observe our lives by what we do, not based on what we say.
If a person's actions do not display a changed life for Jesus Christ, then his claim to be faithful to the Lord is dead.
I don't here the JW's preach about Christ very often, matter of fact: very little: your main focus is upon Jehovah, the Watchtower only witnesses in Jehovah's name: not in Jesus Name: so who's faith do you serve JW? does it belong to the Buddhists, Jews, Hindus and Muslims-all these had refused Jesus: you believe these are faithful members in their midst is not producing fine WORKS.
Where is your faith and works for Christ: that not even you preach His Name to the nations:
You belong to a organisation called the Watchtower, where in fact it's known to the public as a cult: so the name watchtower only means something to their members: not the nations, it is a proven fact the Watchtower refuses Christ and replaced Him with Jehovah: calling on Jehovah's name to save you and serve.
Where is your faith JW obviously not in Jesus-do you honestly believe your faith is in Christ heart soul and mind: where it is a fact you serve another, not Jesus: you put all your faith in Jehovah.We don't have two masters: God gave all His authority to Jesus-you either hate the one or love the other. so who have you given your faith to JW?
Re: I'm Beginning To Reason With Jehovah Witness On Their Stand Concerning Trinity by brocab: 1:44am On Apr 02, 2023
Have you run out of words: you can't answer the lie you live for:
God's Word says that we are saved by grace through faith in Christ Jesus and not by our own efforts or works {Ephesians 2:8-9}
Yet you believe it's the works you do, saves you.
{Ephesians 2:8–9} for example, is clearly worded and unequivocal: “It is by grace you have been saved, through faith and this is not from yourselves, it is the gift of God—not by works, so that no one can boast.”
Where in fact the Jehovah Witnesses boast of the works they do.
Grace Alone. Faith Alone. Grace alone means that God loves, forgives, and saves us not because of who we are or what we do, but because of the work of Christ.
MaxInDHouse:
You enemy of faith in Jesus!

Aren't you the same person who said JWs should be pushed to the war front whereas they don't want to be part of those killing their fellow believers like you and your cohorts who are claiming you use weapons for protecting yourselves from your neighbours.

So between JWs who won't lift up weapons against anyone and you that believe you should use weapons who truly believe in Jesus? Matthew 5:43-48 smiley

Re: I'm Beginning To Reason With Jehovah Witness On Their Stand Concerning Trinity by brocab: 2:30am On Apr 02, 2023
You are trying to tell me Jesus never shouted while He was preaching the Word of God-so you must believe Jesus could tone His voice down speaking softly while he stood up on a mountain or stood on the fishing boat speaking to hundreds to thousands of people at a time,
So you are trying to convince me all these people have super hearing, while Jesus didn't shout, always spoken softly even though He stood far from them? Maybe a couple of miles a way, and you say these people heard Jesus speaking clearly and softly.
Jesus knew how to pull in the crowds: even on the streets-He done many miracles, the blind now see, the deaf now hear and the dead now walk, and the Pharisees hatred Him for that, and you claim the Pharisees are there listening to the Good News "No" they were questioning Jesus every chance they could prove Jesus wasn't the i AM the Son of God..
So you haven't read where Jesus over turned the tables of the money changers {Matthew 21:12-13}
So you never read this, He was yelling at the people telling them this is the house of God not the house of thieves. Jesus was preaching the truth to them yelling so everybody could hear..
So stop trying to make things up in your mind: you know you don't read the bible: nor do you believe it's God's Word.
You are guessing through your religious concepts you have learnt from a unbiblical organisation that deny's Christ, so it's obvious you haven't the slightest idea God really exist in your heart.Your denial proves you are lost. Allow me to witness to you about Jesus and be saved through Grace-not by works, but by the Gift of God.
MaxInDHouse:


According to the Bible people gather to listen to what Jesus has to say and Pharisees also come not that Jesus was shouting to unwilling pedestrians. Read what Matthew penned down again before arguing blindly against the truth! Matthew 12:19 smiley
Re: I'm Beginning To Reason With Jehovah Witness On Their Stand Concerning Trinity by MaxInDHouse(m): 6:16am On Apr 02, 2023
Continue deceiving yourself!

At least there are thousands of religionists on this forum that are from different sects all of them claiming denominations under one umbrella yet with contradicting teachings and conflicting doctrines leading to abusive speeches and curses while you're all calling yourselves Christians.

So that's enough evidence to prove you wrong if it's just by blind beliefs that people will be saved in Christ i wonder why you people still argue, abuse, insult, curse and even thinking of how to kill one another over faith in Jesus! smiley

brocab:
Have you run out of words: you can't answer the lie you live for:
God's Word says that we are saved by grace through faith in Christ Jesus and not by our own efforts or works {Ephesians 2:8-9}
Yet you believe it's the works you do, saves you.
{Ephesians 2:8–9} for example, is clearly worded and unequivocal: “It is by grace you have been saved, through faith and this is not from yourselves, it is the gift of God—not by works, so that no one can boast.”
Where in fact the Jehovah Witnesses boast of the works they do.
Grace Alone. Faith Alone. Grace alone means that God loves, forgives, and saves us not because of who we are or what we do, but because of the work of Christ.
Re: I'm Beginning To Reason With Jehovah Witness On Their Stand Concerning Trinity by MaxInDHouse(m): 6:22am On Apr 02, 2023
At a convention where thousands of people gather to listen to someone talking surely loud speakers are needed for everyone in the audience to hear him but that totally differs from a situation where people are going to their respective places of work then someone stood by the street corner or in a bus and start disturbing passersby or passengers in the bus claiming he or she is preaching to them.

Jesus was talking to people who purposely left their house to come and hear him not talking to the air expecting passersby to pick words when they're not even interested in what he's saying! Matthew 12:19 wink

brocab:
You are trying to tell me Jesus never shouted while He was preaching the Word of God-so you must believe Jesus could tone His voice down speaking softly while he stood up on a mountain or stood on the fishing boat speaking to hundreds to thousands of people at a time,
So you are trying to convince me all these people have super hearing, while Jesus didn't shout, always spoken softly even though He stood far from them? Maybe a couple of miles a way, and you say these people heard Jesus speaking clearly and softly.
Jesus knew how to pull in the crowds: even on the streets-He done many miracles, the blind now see, the deaf now hear and the dead now walk, and the Pharisees hatred Him for that, and you claim the Pharisees are there listening to the Good News "No" they were questioning Jesus every chance they could prove Jesus wasn't the i AM the Son of God..
So you haven't read where Jesus over turned the tables of the money changers {Matthew 21:12-13}
So you never read this, He was yelling at the people telling them this is the house of God not the house of thieves. Jesus was preaching the truth to them yelling so everybody could hear..
So stop trying to make things up in your mind: you know you don't read the bible: nor do you believe it's God's Word.
You are guessing through your religious concepts you have learnt from a unbiblical organisation that deny's Christ, so it's obvious you haven't the slightest idea God really exist in your heart.Your denial proves you are lost. Allow me to witness to you about Jesus and be saved through Grace-not by works, but by the Gift of God.
Re: I'm Beginning To Reason With Jehovah Witness On Their Stand Concerning Trinity by MaxInDHouse(m): 6:30am On Apr 02, 2023
brocab:

So you haven't read where Jesus over turned the tables of the money changers Matthew 21:12-13
So you never read this, He was yelling at the people telling them this is the house of God not the house of thieves. Jesus was preaching the truth to them yelling so everybody could hear..

This happened in the temple where all those in the building left their respective homes for worship so they are all present for the same purpose that's why Jesus did what is right just as the law states.
But yelling at passersby NO he never did that! Matthew 12:19
Re: I'm Beginning To Reason With Jehovah Witness On Their Stand Concerning Trinity by brocab: 1:13am On Apr 03, 2023
There is no difference when you decide to knock on doors and begin speaking about your beliefs.Trying to stop people from doing what they were doing.
And you are complaining about how it's done: try looking in your own back yard before judging those who are actually spreading the gospel, you need an audience standing on peoples door steps, expecting them to listen to you, rudely you bring other speakers with you, ganging up on the people trying to confuse the situation, where in fact the person you have decided to harass at the door, you are trying to sell yourselves-to win them over.
{Mark 16:15} Jesus said to them, “Go into all the world and preach the gospel to every creature.
It's the same method used on the streets, they themselves either preach alone or they bring in other speakers to cover the situation, people either listen to the street preachers or they try and talk the street preachers down, is this not the same 'when you disturb people harassing them in there homes.
{Matthew 28:19} Therefore go and make disciples of all nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father, and of the Son, and of the Holy Spirit
And the reason why you hate the truth so much: is because you haven't got Jesus in your heart. Jehovah is who you serve.
MaxInDHouse:
At a convention where thousands of people gather to listen to someone talking surely loud speakers are needed for everyone in the audience to hear him but that totally differs from a situation where people are going to their respective places of work then someone stood by the street corner or in a bus and start disturbing passersby or passengers in the bus claiming he or she is preaching to them.

Jesus was talking to people who purposely left their house to come and hear him not talking to the air expecting passersby to pick words when they're not even interested in what he's saying! Matthew 12:19 wink

Re: I'm Beginning To Reason With Jehovah Witness On Their Stand Concerning Trinity by brocab: 2:01am On Apr 03, 2023
This is how crafty you snakes are: trying to twist words: it's common sense: everybody knows Jesus would have raised his voice when preaching to the people-its impossible for anybody to hear somebody speaking from far away.
Jesus also drew in the people with His miracles, which stocked the nations.
{Matthew 12:19} is quoting a version of {Isaiah 42} and applying it to Jesus.
The original passage was, it would seem, written about Israel. Under the inspiration of the Spirit, though, Matthew shows how Jesus has fulfilled the prophecy. Jesus is sometimes called the perfect Israel or the ultimate Israel. He is the best and fullest example of God's chosen people.
Even though Jesus didn't bring attention to Himself: the people brought it to Him, people traveled days just to see Him.
This is how the gospel is spread though out the world 'though word of mouth:
{Isaiah 42:1–3} The passage in Isaiah is describing this servant with whom God is pleased and on whom the Father has placed His Spirit
The servant's work will eventually be to proclaim justice to those who are not Israel, the Gentile nations.The passage in Isaiah is describing this servant with whom God is pleased and on whom the Father has placed His Spirit.
{Isaiah 42:1–3}The servant's work will eventually be to proclaim justice to those who are not Israel, the Gentile nations.
MaxInDHouse:


This happened in the temple where all those in the building left their respective homes for worship so they are all present for the same purpose that's why Jesus did what is right just as the law states.
But yelling at passersby NO he never did that! Matthew 12:19
Re: I'm Beginning To Reason With Jehovah Witness On Their Stand Concerning Trinity by brocab: 2:31am On Apr 03, 2023
Then why do you still argue with me? if you believe you are Christian?
Why are you so against everybody that belongs to other religious denominations, where in fact you yourself refuse to believe in the Word Jesus speaks of God:
Why do you refuse {John 3:3} when in fact it says one must be Born Again before he can enter into the Kingdom of God.
These are God's people He has chosen for His Son Jesus..
MaxInDHouse:
Continue deceiving yourself!
So that's enough evidence to prove you wrong if it's just by blind beliefs that people will be saved in Christ I wonder why you people still argue, abuse, insult, curse and even thinking of how to kill one another over faith in Jesus! smiley
This is a sure way to deny Jesus, since you don't believe Jesus is the way to God: then try showing us where Jesus is not the way? show us Jehovah is the only way for the 144000 Watchtower members will in fact enter into the Kingdom of God, without Jesus? prove your point...Obviously you are not on the list.
You have describe yourself pretty well above: since you have been on line-you have done all you have written.
I do like a honest person-you are murdering the people leading them to their deaths, spreading your unscriptual doctrine to the nations, your insults are very abusive, and always arguing and cursing those that disagrees with you.

What demonic activity is stopping you from calling out to Jesus. if you have read the bible in the first place, God the Father gave all His authority over to Jesus His Son, those who believe in Jesus Name,will be saved.
Jehovah can't save you. you are doomed heading in the wrong direction believing he can save you..
MaxInDHouse:
Continue deceiving yourself!

At least there are thousands of religionists on this forum that are from different sects all of them claiming denominations under one umbrella yet with contradicting teachings and conflicting doctrines leading to abusive speeches and curses while you're all calling yourselves Christians.

So that's enough evidence to prove you wrong if it's just by blind beliefs that people will be saved in Christ I wonder why you people still argue, abuse, insult, curse and even thinking of how to kill one another over faith in Jesus! smiley

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Re: I'm Beginning To Reason With Jehovah Witness On Their Stand Concerning Trinity by Nobody: 7:36am On Apr 05, 2023
MaxInDHouse:
Wow! This thread again! smiley
I really miss my SB Rozz who opened this thread she is sincere with her research! smiley
Rozz could still be here who knows. Jehova witness remains the best among the rest especially now that Christianity has been indoctrinated with all sort of things. You hardly see any morally upright Christian anymore down to their pastors aside Jehova witnesses. Even on this forum if you noticed any guy with some morals he will eventually be a JW.

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Re: I'm Beginning To Reason With Jehovah Witness On Their Stand Concerning Trinity by MaxInDHouse(m): 7:54am On Apr 05, 2023
brocab:

Then why do you still argue with me? if you believe you are Christian?
Who is arguing with you?
Perhaps your brains has lost its function due to time, this thread was raised by a young lady who confessed that JW's stand concerning trinity makes sense to her.
So you're the one arguing blindly over what is not written anywhere in the Bible: TRINITY! smiley

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Re: I'm Beginning To Reason With Jehovah Witness On Their Stand Concerning Trinity by Nobody: 4:18pm On Apr 05, 2023
MaxInDHouse:

Who is arguing with you?
Perhaps your brains has lost its function due to time, this thread was raised by a young lady who confessed that JW's stand concerning trinity makes sense to her.
So you're the one arguing blindly over what is not written anywhere in the Bible: TRINITY! smiley
You are really a strong man ooo, you are still conquering them all these years 😂
Where is fake pastor johnw 😂

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Re: I'm Beginning To Reason With Jehovah Witness On Their Stand Concerning Trinity by MaxInDHouse(m): 6:13pm On Apr 05, 2023
Esortigress:
You are really a strong man ooo, you are still conquering them all these years 😂
Where is fake pastor johnw 😂

He is looking for what isn't lost! cheesy
Re: I'm Beginning To Reason With Jehovah Witness On Their Stand Concerning Trinity by Nobody: 6:39pm On Apr 05, 2023
MaxInDHouse:


He is looking for what isn't lost! cheesy
He's so strong in his falsehood. grin

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Re: I'm Beginning To Reason With Jehovah Witness On Their Stand Concerning Trinity by johnw47: 12:21am On Apr 06, 2023
Esortigress:
You are really a strong man ooo, you are still conquering them all these years 😂
Where is fake pastor johnw 😂

Ecclesiastes 7:6
For as the crackling of thorns under a pot, so is the laughter of the fool


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lawless fatty using multiple accounts when banned on another
you are just like your daddy's mad max and the devil:

Joh 8:44 You are of your father the devil, and you want to do the desires of your father. He was a murderer from the beginning, and does not stand in the truth because there is no truth in him. Whenever he speaks a lie, that is his natural way of speaking, for he is a liar and the father of lies.

Isa 3:24 And it shall come to pass, that instead of sweet smell there shall be stink; and instead of a girdle a rent; and instead of well set hair baldness; and instead of a stomacher a girding of sackcloth; and burning instead of beauty

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Re: I'm Beginning To Reason With Jehovah Witness On Their Stand Concerning Trinity by cornelboy(f): 2:34am On Apr 06, 2023
brocab:
But JW's always claim the bible is to hard for them to understand, its easier for them to twist bible verses they themselves don't understand.
In stead they give out Watchtower booklets using some type of information that really doesn't have anything to do with God.
[John 8:44} gives us a prefect description how these people operate.
It's not Christ like..
Stop reasoning like a toddler abeg 🙏🏾

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