1Sharon:
They need to make a law for citizenship via marraiges to only be valid if the couples stay together forever.

my dear carry you dark heart somewhere else

carsuperman:
my dear carry you dark heart somewhere else

This is one of them.

PoliteActivist:


Are you serious?? They have dozens of Tinder plus accounts! That's nothing! They can technological change their voice to girl if they wish, and can be in any part of the world they wish, as even I can. If you call their American number they'd answer and their location will show US!

OK, here's a simple way to solve this:
We all know LOTS of American high value women and celebrities, sports women, female artists and musicians, politicians, etc. Mention ONE white that's married to a regular African immigrant.

People suppose to give someone like you chance. You are too negative and trying to position a person's mind against trying

1Sharon:


This is one of them.

I am not 1 of anything, I don't intend to try this but let others do what they want to survive as long as it is not to hurt another human. If is mutual to marry to get papers, then fine but not burn someone and hurt them for your own gain

1Sharon:


Yes but they have options. Why would they pick HIM?

They would pick him because he is a man in good shape, smart, responsible and successful.

Below are the only reasons they wouldn't pick him:
1. If he doesn't possess the qualities listed above.
2. If they are lesbians.
3. If they suspect he is only with them for papers.
4. If they don't do black men(not necessarily racism).

PoliteActivist:


Are you serious?? They have dozens of Tinder plus accounts! That's nothing! They can technological change their voice to girl if they wish, and can be in any part of the world they wish, as even I can. If you call their American number they'd answer and their location will show US!

OK, here's a simple way to solve this:
We all know LOTS of American high value women and celebrities, sports women, female artists and musicians, politicians, etc. Mention ONE white that's married to a regular African immigrant.

Most scammers won't have anything to do with you if you're Nigerian. Because you're bad market for them.

To know whites that got married to black men, go look at black footballers and their wives.

Albertone:


They would pick him because he is a man in good shape, smart, responsible and successful.

Below are the only reasons they wouldn't pick him:
1. If he doesn't possess the qualities listed above.
2. If they are lesbians.
3. If they suspect he is only with them for papers.
4. If they don't do black men(not necessarily racism).

carsuperman:
People suppose to give someone like you chance. You are too negative and trying to position a person's mind against trying

Albertone:


Most scammers won't have anything to do with you if you're Nigerian. Because you're bad market for them.

To know whites that got married to black men, go look at black footballers and their wives.

1Sharon ask him how many struggling Nigerian immigrants meet those criteria.

Better yet, ask him why you don't see all over the place Nigerian immigrants married to "young and sexy" white women. Also ask him why Nigerian immigrant men who swore they hate Nigerian girls and never to come back to Nigeria, end up coming back to Nigeria to look for wife!

Failure2019:
1-visit usa on tourist visa
2-download tinder and swipe right everyone
3-match with an obese hambeast and convince her to marry me
4-profit
opinions?

first of all can you afford a tourist visa?

MrBrownJay1:


yahoo boys are cheap mofos and dont want to spend the extra money getting Tinder plus (to connect with women from all over the world) and prefer sending yeye free emails instead.

Boss what do you mean by this

abba09:
first of all can you afford a tourist visa?

Who wan rob me??

1Sharon:
You're right. There are Nigerians born in America and even they don't want to deal with those new immigrants because they sense their desperation and bad attitude.

Cc: MrBrownJay1

the majority of immigrants eventually do find women to date and even marry... let us not pretend that most Immigrants (whether legal or otherwise) dont find women in the US.

as for you claiming that most "new" Immigrants are desperate and/or have bad attitude, i beg to differ. they are different than Americans, yes, but thats about it. majority of immigrants in the US are law abiding upstanding individuals. IMHO the reason why many US born Nigerians look down on these "new" immigrants is partly to do because they feel they are better than them.

as for Politeactivist who took the OP's original post about finding any baby whale to marry in the US (for a green card), and now shifted the whole subject to finding HIGH VALUE WOMEN to marry in the US, i laugh in Korean!

Albertone:


They would pick him because he is a man in good shape, smart, responsible and successful.

Below are the only reasons they wouldn't pick him:
1. If he doesn't possess the qualities listed above.
2. If they are lesbians.
3. If they suspect he is only with them for papers.
4. If they don't do black men(not necessarily racism).

The OP is a desperate man hustling for green card, pls explain how he can possibly meet the categories youve listed above?

1Sharon:


The OP is a desperate man hustling for green card, pls explain how he can possibly meet the categories youve listed above?

We have a lot of men who possess these qualities but are tired of Nigeria so, they hustle for green card too.

Being in the categories listed and hustling for green card are not mutually exclusive.

Actor Bolanle Ninalowo met these criteria but still hustled for green card, so did 9ice, the singer.

PoliteActivist:






1Sharón ask him how many struggling Nigerian immigrants meet those criteria.

Better yet, ask him why you don't see all over the place Nigerian immigrants married to "young and sexy" white women. Also ask him why Nigerian immigrant men who swore they hate Nigerian girls and never to come back to Nigeria, end up coming back to Nigeria to look for wife!

Remove the word "struggling" and I'll tell you there is 50% chance that Nigerian immigrants will meet those criteria.
Do you want to say nobody meets that criteria in the whole of Nigeria? Remember these Nigerian immigrants are normal Nigerians like us.

If I tell you Chidiebere, Abdullahi, and Adewale are married to young and sexy white women, you wouldn't know them. So go there and see for yourself.
Meanwhile, check out Mikel Obi, a Nigerian immigrant's wife.

They come back to Nigeria for wives because having tasted white women, they feel Nigerian women are better.
White women don't have the culture of "a man is the head of the home and a woman must be submissive". It's their personal choice.

Albertone:


We have a lot of men who possess these qualities but are tired of Nigeria so, they hustle for green card too.

Being in the categories listed and hustling for green card are not mutually exclusive.

Actor Bolanle Ninalowo met these criteria but still hustled for green card, so did 9ice, the singer.

Did they deceive old women to marry?

MrBrownJay1:


the majority of immigrants eventually do find women to date and even marry... let us not pretend that most Immigrants (whether legal or otherwise) dont find women in the US.

as for you claiming that most "new" Immigrants are desperate and/or have bad attitude, i beg to differ. they are different than Americans, yes, but thats about it. majority of immigrants in the US are law abiding upstanding individuals. IMHO the reason why many US born Nigerians look down on these "new" immigrants is partly to do because they feel they are better than them.

as for Politeactivist who took the OP's original post about finding any baby whale to marry in the US (for a green card), and now shifted the whole subject to finding HIGH VALUE WOMEN to marry in the US, I laugh in Korean!

@bolded, see below how the post was shifted. I didn't shift it

Albertone:


Also, must it be a baby whale? Can't one see a young and sexy babe?

As for the rest of your post, so you know better than 1Sharon who was born in US?? She's telling you how they come accross to a US-born, and you are telling her what's in your head!
As for majority of immigrants eventually finding women to date and even marry. The question was never finding ANY woman. You could find a chain-smoking drug addict or prostitute. The question is what caliber of women are available to them!

MrBrownJay1:


the majority of immigrants eventually do find women to date and even marry... let us not pretend that most Immigrants (whether legal or otherwise) dont find women in the US.

as for you claiming that most "new" Immigrants are desperate and/or have bad attitude, i beg to differ. they are different than Americans, yes, but thats about it. majority of immigrants in the US are law abiding upstanding individuals. IMHO the reason why many US born Nigerians look down on these "new" immigrants is partly to do because they feel they are better than them.

as for Politeactivist who took the OP's original post about finding any baby whale to marry in the US (for a green card), and now shifted the whole subject to finding HIGH VALUE WOMEN to marry in the US, i laugh in Korean!

Some are just not on the same wavelength of the women they desire. This includes, black, white, Asian women.

They come still fresh with their unsophisticati devious of critical thinking sprinkled with religious hypocrisy. The ways some of them express themselves reveals their lack of exposure. They don't understand western social cues either because they haven't been around long enough
A woman smiles at them and they immediately jump and approach. They dont understand smiling Is just a sign of friendliness.

As I said before, everybody in life eventually gets in where they fit in.

PoliteActivist:
@bolded, see below how the post was shifted. I didn't shift it

a young and sexy babe does NOT automatically equate to a HIGH VALUE WOMAN... young and sexy babes are everywhere in the US, from trailer parks to projects...

As for the rest of your post, so you know better than 1Sharon who was born in US?? She's telling you how they come accross to a US-born, and you are telling her what's in your head!

i am just stating a simple fact...aka not all immigrants have bad attitudes and/or are desperate... but most importantly, there are 1000 times more people in the US than just Nigerian americans (who understandably feel they are better than Nigerian immigrants).
i never said i knew better than anybody else, i just gave my opinion of what i believe is the best way for a man to find a woman to date/marry in the US. you dont have to be born and bred in the US to know how easy it is to date (and possibly marry) in the US. just visit a few times and see how easy it is to get a woman, et voila!
again, many of the immigrants, whether legal (or otherwise) find women in the US to date or marry.

As for majority of immigrants eventually finding women to date and even marry. The question was never finding ANY woman. You could find a chain-smoking drug addict or prostitute. The question is what caliber of women are available to them!

initially, the OP wanted to find a baby whale for easy marriage so her caliber really doesnt matter to the OP but, what you are now claiming is that, if a woman is not a high value woman, she is automatically a drug addict or prostitute?! the majority of women in the US (from all races combined) aint high value nor are they drug addicts or prostitutes. the majority are women who live simple comfortable lives (aka middle class earning between $40k to $150k per year)... but more importantly, even if that woman was a drug addict or a prostitute, do you really think these immigrants who are willing/able to marry fugly baby whales really care (so long as these women have a JOB, marry and give them the green card they need)?!

Albertone:


Remove the word "struggling" and I'll tell you there is 50% chance that Nigerian immigrants will meet those criteria.
Do you want to say nobody meets that criteria in the whole of Nigeria? Remember these Nigerian immigrants are normal Nigerians like us.

If I tell you Chidiebere, Abdullahi, and Adewale are married to young and sexy white women, you wouldn't know them. So go there and see for yourself.
Meanwhile, check out Mikel Obi, a Nigerian immigrant's wife.

They come back to Nigeria for wives because having tasted white women, they feel Nigerian women are better.
White women don't have the culture of "a man is the head of the home and a woman must be submissive". It's their personal choice.

Well, if you tell us that Chidiebere, Abdullahi, and Adewale are married to young and sexy white women, we'd know you are lying because we know lots and lots of Nigerians in US and we don't know a single one that's married to a young and sexy white woman!

Same thing if you say they tasted marriage with white women before coming home, you'd be lying - it's simply not true.
As for why they come home, it has absolutely nothing to do with submissiveness or such, it is simply because that's their best option, all things taken together, or sometimes only option - unless u want a non-marriage-material.
Also remember, it is normal in US to be a single mother or baby mama or such. Girls are not desperate to get married as in Naija and some don't even want to get married, thus further reducing the pool of women available to the poor immigrant.
Also, it is mostly single men immigrating from all over the world to the same few places - therefore skewing the male-female ratio in those places.

As for Mikel Obi and other rich - proves my point. You don't see them going to Naija to look for wife!

PoliteActivist:


@bolded, see below how the post was shifted. I didn't shift it



As for the rest of your post, so you know better than 1Sharon who was born in US?? She's telling you how they come accross to a US-born, and you are telling her what's in your head!
As for majority of immigrants eventually finding women to date and even marry. The question was never finding ANY woman. You could find a chain-smoking drug addict or prostitute. The question is what caliber of women are available to them!

Lol..I was actually born in the UK but I know how it is on the other side

1Sharon:


Lol..I was actually born in the UK but I know how it is on the other side

Oh ok, you were born accross the pond! Well same principles still apply - they don't have women anywhere lined up waiting to marry Nigerian immigrants, as people in Nigeria think!

1Sharon:
Some are just not on the same wavelength of the women they desire. This includes, black, white, Asian women.

these men desire ANY women, whether fat, old, ugly or challenged... because their aim is not to find the love of their lives, their aim is to get a green card. so i can assure you that they can easily find plenty of women out there to marry (unless you believe that all single women in the US are beautiful/fit/intelligent). there are many women out there that US men dont look at, let alone approach, thus these immigrants would be the jackpot to many of these women (aka immigrants who treat them like they look like Beyonce). every time you hear of a US grandma marrying a younger dude, he is 90% of the time an immigrant from Africa/latin America, Asia or Eastern Europe). these are the same women who go to Jamaica to get their "groove on". lets be honest here.

They come still fresh with their unsophisticati devious of critical thinking sprinkled with religious hypocrisy. The ways some of them express themselves reveals their lack of exposure. They don't understand western social cues either because they haven't been around long enough . A woman smiles at them and they immediately jump and approach. They dont understand smiling Is just a sign of friendliness.
As I said before, everybody in life eventually gets in where they fit in.

there is a reason why a great deal of American black men today aka "passport bros" would rather go abroad (dominican rep, Colombia, Brasil, Thailand, Philippines or simply back to Africa) to find a good wife... and therefore, many black american women may feel left out (aka the pool of eligible bachelors gets limited) thus why i fully understand why many of these now desperate women go the "immigrant" route to find a man...

MrBrownJay1:


a young and sexy babe does NOT automatically equate to a HIGH VALUE WOMAN... young and sexy babes are everywhere in the US, from trailer parks to projects...



i am just stating a simple fact...aka not all immigrants have bad attitudes and/or are desperate... but most importantly, there are 1000 times more people in the US than just Nigerian americans (who understandably feel they are better than Nigerian immigrants).
i never said i knew better than anybody else, i just gave my opinion of what i believe is the best way for a man to find a woman to date/marry in the US. you dont have to be born and bred in the US to know how easy it is to date (and possibly marry) in the US. just visit a few times and see how easy it is to get a woman, et voila!
again, many of the immigrants, whether legal (or otherwise) find women in the US to date or marry.



initially, the OP wanted to find a baby whale for easy marriage so her caliber really doesnt matter to the OP but, what you are now claiming is that, if a woman is not a high value woman, she is automatically a drug addict or prostitute?! the majority of women in the US (from all races combined) aint high value nor are they drug addicts or prostitutes. the majority are women who live simple comfortable lives (aka middle class earning between $40k to $150k per year)... but more importantly, even if that woman was a drug addict or a prostitute, do you really think these immigrants who are willing/able to marry fugly baby whales really care (so long as these women have a JOB, marry and give them the green card they need)?!

I think you've become a bit mixed up as to the point of the discussion. We are simply saying it is not as easy as people here think it is - to find and marry a marriage-material type in US. Especially not nearly as easily as a Nigerian can in Nigeria

PoliteActivist:
I think you've become a bit mixed up as to the point of the discussion. We are simply saying it is not as easy as people here think it is - to find and marry a marriage-material type in US. Especially not nearly as easily as a Nigerian can in Nigeria

no, you are the one confusing the issue...these desperate immigrant dont NEED a marriage material wife, they just need "anyone" to marry them (whether fat/ugly or handicapped), in order for them to attain their goal (aka get a green card).

1Sharon:



Some are just not on the same wavelength of the women they desire. This includes, black, white, Asian women.

They come still fresh with their unsophisticati devious of critical thinking sprinkled with religious hypocrisy. The ways some of them express themselves reveals their lack of exposure. They don't understand western social cues either because they haven't been around long enough
A woman smiles at them and they immediately jump and approach. They dont understand smiling Is just a sign of friendliness.

As I said before, everybody in life eventually gets in where they fit in.

This your post says it all! People with all sorts of ridiculous pre-conceived notions!

What those other guys are doing is like saying any Nigerian can easily become a billionaire in US. But then when you look you only see one or two
billionaires!

MrBrownJay1:


no, you are the one confusing the issue...these desperate immigrant dont NEED a marriage material wife, they just need "anyone" to marry them (whether fat/ugly or handicapped), in order for them to attain their goal (aka get a green card).

Ok, I see you did not follow from the beginning.
What we are discussing is a Nigerian immigrant marrying a woman FOR REAL, instead of just for green card or wayo marriage.
You get it now?

u will die trying

pansophist:
Nice plan, but wait o, I have seen people with such plans here, and even if they succeed, their life will never remain the same, and probably for the worse. Oya grab a popcorn let go

So you land at JFK New York airport, and probably that night, you match one whale on Tinder, and a week later, you propose. She was so excited and said YES. She said YES

So fast forward three months later, you guys are officially married, and the dawn of your American dream begins. You are on a straight ride to your green card, congratulations.

But because you didn't love her, and only sees her as a means to an end, her presence disgust you. Just the imagination of her triple-layer potbelly rubbing your body during sex makes you vomit and wonder if the juice is worth the squeeze

She proudly puts you guys' pics all over her Facebook, and something just looks off. Everyone can see it, even you. But since you are the best she can get, she doesn't care. She is happy that she found love.

Her life to you was very real, which makes it easier for her to live. But your own life is filled with lies, that made every day an agony for you. For example, she wonders why you hate holding her hands in public or going out with her since you do go out always.

She wants a child, and to keep the lies going, you have a child with a woman you desperately do not want. The sight of the child alone makes you angry, as it represents a living testimony of your lies.

Also, you are aware that even when you break up with her, the child becomes a dagger in your underbelly where you will pay child support till he/she is 18, to a woman you despise.

She probably is not an idiot. She knew deep down that something is off, and that you are with her for papers. If she doesn't knows, she has families, friends, and of course, social media to tell her that

She has evidence from your behavior because the last time you kissed her was last year, and even during her birthday, refuse to perform sexually as the black African man that you are

You keep asking yourself, does this paper even worth it? The job you manage to get is a job that stresses your life, and the money goes to sustain a home you don't want.

And if the devil wants to punish you completely, a few months to when you will be free from her without your immigration status being affected, she serves you the sweetest karma, by breaking up with you.

Then you start afresh.

To swipe for a new whale. But now you are older, probably broke as the average American, and under heavy child support payment. You just realize that suffering comes in different ways.

You reminisce on your freedom back home, and how even though you were poor, you had your life together. And wish you never started this journey.

This might not be your fate, but it's the fate of so many men in the diaspora. I personally know a 36-year-old guy with three baby mamas, still undocumented. He thought he was smart and went on an impregnation spree.

But the girls ain´t idiots. They realise he needed them for paper and never gave it to him. And if he successfully becomes a legal resident, he will start paying child support to three children. He might not even see his salary, it will be deducted automatically.

Then you realize that the saying ¨No peace for the wicked is true¨. And wish you never started this mess.

Wowwwwwww.. legend

PoliteActivist:

Ok, I see you did not follow from the beginning.
What we are discussing is a Nigerian immigrant marrying a woman FOR REAL, instead of just for green card or wayo marriage.
You get it now?

you are the one confusing the issue: focus on the below post by the OP... now check again the bolded part...and come tell us again that this man is looking for the love of his life and/or the mother of his future children (especially when he clearly states that this is all for "profit" as stated with #4).

Failure2019:
1-visit usa on tourist visa
2-download tinder and swipe right everyone
3-match with an obese hambeast and convince her to marry me
4-profit
opinions?

common now, you guys just derailed this interesting thread. We've heard you all can we go back to the initial thread please

MrBrownJay1:


these men desire ANY women, whether fat, old, ugly or challenged... because their aim is not to find the love of their lives, their aim is to get a green card. so i can assure you that they can easily find plenty of women out there to marry (unless you believe that all single women in the US are beautiful/fit/intelligent). there are many women out there that US men dont look at, let alone approach, thus these immigrants would be the jackpot to many of these women (aka immigrants who treat them like they look like Beyonce). every time you hear of a US grandma marrying a younger dude, he is 90% of the time an immigrant from Africa/latin America, Asia or Eastern Europe). these are the same women who go to Jamaica to get their "groove on". lets be honest here.



there is a reason why a great deal of American black men today aka "passport bros" would rather go abroad (dominican rep, Colombia, Brasil, Thailand, Philippines or simply back to Africa) to find a good wife... and therefore, many black american women may feel left out (aka the pool of eligible bachelors gets limited) thus why i fully understand why many of these now desperate women go the "immigrant" route to find a man...

Those women aren't their first choice are they ? They go to undesirable women because they know they'll jump at the attention.
That's not who they truly want. It's a marraige of convenience. As long as both parties are aware, I actually have no issue with it.

The passport bros sound naive. Most Americans don't know beyond their nose. I feel its safer to approach non westerned women where they are already are.

Before they get targeted in a foreign country for their percieved wealth

1Sharon:
Those women aren't their first choice are they ? They go to undesirable women because they know they'll jump at the attention.

of course!!!! a beggar cant be a chooser... you take what comes along. but its well known that a fugly baby whale will accept faster than Beyonce lookalike.

That's not who they truly want. It's a marraige of convenience. As long as both parties are aware, I actually have no issue with it.

you are partly right here...
A) YES, these men solely marry who they "can", not who they desire. after they get their permanent residency, thats when they go for who they desire (thus when many go back home to find a wife)
B) NO, these desperate men need to say any rubbish to get these women to marry them... so they make these women believe that this is the real deal in order for the gullible woman to fall in love and marry them asap (some even have children with these women).
C) people who marry for convenience often have to pay the american spouse for that service (between $10k to $30K or more).

The passport bros sound naive. Most Americans don't know beyond their nose. I feel its safer to approach non westerned women where they are already are.

how can such man be naive if/when he doesnt find the type of character he desires in a wife at home, and therefore decide to go abroad to find such wife?! to each their own. right? back when i was living inBrasil, i remember so many of them coming to Rio because , as they said, Brasilian women treated their men in a traditional manner and took better care of their men, while not trying to compete as the head of the family (like many women do in the western world). the catch is that many of these passport bros find these wives abroad and keep them there...unlike the US immigrants who bring their village back to the US.

Before they get targeted in a foreign country for their percieved wealth

isnt it the same wealth that women in the west today often value men upon and/or when these women have wealth themselves, they will be quick to say they dont need a man? lets be honest, if men pay for everything, shouldnt they be treated like a king at home (like these foreign women treat them abroad)? the funny part is that many of these passport bros dont even have much money, they just have a passport and a job... but just with that, they are treated better abroad by foreign women.