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Re: All Babies Are Enemies Of God by FxMasterz: 10:16pm On Apr 18, 2023
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That's deceptive of you.

I think you should read my last mention again. I've modified it because I made a mistake putting my response in the middle of your post.
Re: All Babies Are Enemies Of God by Janosky: 10:18pm On Apr 18, 2023
FxMasterz:

You're referencing a post that was made as a response to your ungodly post as though it was that post that triggered your godless response. Can't you see you're deliberately trading in deceit?


Do you now agree that we did the insults together?

When & how did post of scriptures saying exactly what you confirmed in your Bible is ungodly to your heart?

And in your self Righteousness you continue making FALSE accusations.

Haba !
Re: All Babies Are Enemies Of God by Janosky: 10:24pm On Apr 18, 2023
tctrills:

I just read it, it did not say Children would not inherit God's kingdom. I think you need to read it again

2 Peter 2:6, do I need to remind you that children in that city were destroyed for a particular reason?
Reason: God adjudged their parents were wicked.
2 Peter 2:6 dey choke some people on this forum.
They are zealously desperate to TWIST the narrative rather than stick to the holy scriptures. grin
Re: All Babies Are Enemies Of God by FxMasterz: 10:26pm On Apr 18, 2023
Janosky:


Do you now agree that we did the insults together?

When & how did post of scriptures saying exactly what you confirmed in your Bible is ungodly to your heart?

And in your self Righteousness you continue making FALSE accusations.

Haba !
This is another deceptive post. I never referred to any reference you made to the Bible as ungodly. The ungodliness of your post was in the I'll-manered response. By the fruits you bear even now, trying to use deception to cover up a flaw, you still show yourself to be of your father the devil.

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Re: All Babies Are Enemies Of God by jaephoenix(m): 10:27pm On Apr 18, 2023
Courz:


You will be quoting verses without reading them. Where in this verse you quoted did you see the person saying I was born an Enemy of God from the Womb? Where did you see that there? Why can't you just read the Bible as you see it? Why are you adding to the Bible? Are you trying to say you as a Sinner are an enemy of God? Where did you see where serving God prevents you from being a Sinner? You are you perfect? Going by your logic, All sinners are enemies of God Including you. Therefore, every Christian is still an enemy of God as long as they are still Sinners. We were all born with Sin but making efforts to live a Christlike life will not prevent you from Sinning. That's why we continue to pray to God to forgive us of our sins continuously. So, where did you see Enemy in this verse below?
That is vintage Max. Box him into a corner. Then he bursts out with a completely irrelevant bible verse and then declare himself winner. I have talked about that tactics time and time again

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Re: All Babies Are Enemies Of God by jaephoenix(m): 10:33pm On Apr 18, 2023
Janosky:


Jaephoenix , have you informed Nairaland you AGREED that LDS is far better than your Atheism?

I challenge you to provide evidence where other groups laid claim to the name "Jehovah's witnesses"

Brain transplant begins & ends with jaephoenix.
grin
Does atheism claim to be yahweh's witness? So what is its business with that bible verse?
How do you manage to cross roads with all this load of mental cretardation swarming in your brain

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Re: All Babies Are Enemies Of God by Janosky: 10:37pm On Apr 18, 2023
FxMasterz:

This is another deceptive post. I never referred to any reference you made to the Bible as ungodly. The ungodliness of your post was in the I'll-manered response. By the fruits you bear even now, trying to use deception to cover up a flaw, you still show yourself to be of your father the devil.
FxMasterz:

This is another deceptive post. I never referred to any reference you made to the Bible as ungodly. The ungodliness of your post was in the I'll-manered response. By the fruits you bear even now, trying to use deception to cover up a flaw, you still show yourself to be of your father the devil.
I said:
Do you now agree that we did the insults together?

You are still making the same insults I referenced already, which you admitted you are guilty of...
"show yourself to be of your father the devil"

Oga, you are not interested in honesty nor in the holy scriptures especially when it burst your bubbles.
grin
Re: All Babies Are Enemies Of God by tctrills: 10:59pm On Apr 18, 2023
Janosky:


2 Peter 2:6, do I need to remind you that children in that city were destroyed for a particular reason?
Reason: God adjudged their parents were wicked.
2 Peter 2:6 dey choke some people on this forum.
They are zealously desperate to TWIST the narrative rather than stick to the holy scriptures. grin
Oga we agree 2 peter 2.6 children died in the city. Now are you happy.
So do you believe the Savior when he tells you that children would inherit the kingdom of Heaven?

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Re: All Babies Are Enemies Of God by FxMasterz: 11:04pm On Apr 18, 2023
Janosky:


I said:
Do you now agree that we did the insults together?

You are still making the same insults I referenced already, which you admitted you are guilty of...
"show yourself to be of your father the devil"

Oga, you are not interested in honesty nor in the holy scriptures especially when it burst your bubbles.
grin
When you tell someone the errors of his ways and point him or her to the source of such errors, you're helping the person, not insulting Him. Jesus did the same for the Pharisees.

Since you consider yourself a child of God, you should stop deceiving yourself and see whose fruits you bear. The statement is not to insult you but rather to make you consider your own fruits and know whose son you are. You really need to become a child of God.

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Re: All Babies Are Enemies Of God by Janosky: 11:18pm On Apr 18, 2023
FxMasterz:

When you tell someone the errors of his ways and point him or her to the source of such errors, you're helping the person, not insulting Him. Jesus did the same for the Pharisees.

Since you consider yourself a child of God, you should stop deceiving yourself and see whose fruits you bear. The statement is not to insult you but rather to make you consider your own fruits and know whose son you are. You really need to become a child of God.

You are finding errors in Acts 15:7-17 & other portions of scriptures posted on this thread,Oga continue ooooo!

Awon Christ sheeples arguing against the holy scriptures. grin
Re: All Babies Are Enemies Of God by Janosky: 11:20pm On Apr 18, 2023
tctrills:

Oga we agree 2 peter 2.6 children died in the city. Now are you happy.
So do you believe the Savior when he tells you that children would inherit the kingdom of Heaven?

2 Peter 2:6, if you were interested in the holy scriptures, you would always have understand the other related scriptures, Hebrews 11:7 grin
Re: All Babies Are Enemies Of God by Janosky: 11:24pm On Apr 18, 2023
jaephoenix:

Does atheism claim to be yahweh's witness? So what is its business with that bible verse?
How do you manage to cross roads with all this load of mental cretardation swarming in your brain
jaephoenix:

That is vintage Max. Box him into a corner. Then he bursts out with a completely irrelevant bible verse and then declare himself winner. I have talked about that tactics time and time again

You are very glued to spreading FALSEHOOD and LYING to yourself.


Jaephoenix alias LottiOk,
Look at the Yahweh's witnesses screenshot you saw LDS in the Google in your brain.
The same manner you were exposed LYING against MaxinDHouse. grin grin


Awon (So called ) medical doctor, filled with DECEIT.
.
grin grin

Re: All Babies Are Enemies Of God by tctrills: 11:35pm On Apr 18, 2023
Janosky:


2 Peter 2:6, if you were interested in the holy scriptures, you would always have understand the other related scriptures, Hebrews 11:7 grin
Yes we have read both scriptures but none dispute that children would inherit heaven.

By faith Noah, being warned of God of things not seen as yet, moved with fear, prepared an ark to the saving of his house; by the which he condemned the world, and became heir of the righteousness which is by faith.
I have even copied and pasted for you.
Is this the verse that makes you not to believe when Jesus says children would inherit heaven?

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Re: All Babies Are Enemies Of God by Courz: 11:51pm On Apr 18, 2023
tctrills:

I just read it, it did not say Children would not inherit God's kingdom. I think you need to read it again

He obviously didn't read the verse before quoting you. These JW Idiots love throwing verses around but end up looking stup1d while at it. sad

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Re: All Babies Are Enemies Of God by Courz: 11:53pm On Apr 18, 2023
jaephoenix:

That is vintage Max. Box him into a corner. Then he bursts out with a completely irrelevant bible verse and then declare himself winner. I have talked about that tactics time and time again

That's why we call him Mad MaxInDHouse the EbubeAgu Agent. 😀 The Guy na Idiot. Loves praising himself over being Stup1d. Pure Madness! 🤦

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Re: All Babies Are Enemies Of God by FxMasterz: 12:24am On Apr 19, 2023
Janosky:


You are finding errors in Acts 15:7-17 & other portions of scriptures posted on this thread,Oga continue ooooo!

Awon Christ sheeples arguing against the holy scriptures. grin
You and I have not discussed any scripture. Yeah, we discussed Noah's flood in relation to babies. We didn't discuss any scripture per say.

In a bid to derail the topic, you still smuggled in a lie. Do you see the fruits you bear? Can you rightly call yourself a child of God?

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Re: All Babies Are Enemies Of God by MaxInDHouse(m): 3:45am On Apr 19, 2023
FxMasterz:

Jesus Christ never claimed exclusive knowledge of God. He never claimed to know better than anyone.

Regarding the knowledge of God Jesus said:

“I am the way and the truth and the life. No one comes to the Father except through me" John 14:6

God Himself spoke from heaven saying:

“This is my Son, the beloved, whom I have approved. Listen to him" Matthew 17:5

In fact God forewarned the Israelites about this prophet saying:

"Indeed, I will require an account from the man who will not listen to my words that he will speak in my name". Deuteronomy 18:19

Jehovah's Witnesses will never argue with you regarding the knowledge of anything else but as for knowledge of our God if you don't believe what we're telling you go and worship yours only JWs have accurate knowledge about our God! smiley

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Re: All Babies Are Enemies Of God by MaxInDHouse(m): 3:51am On Apr 19, 2023
tctrills:

How is this important? Melchizedek did not need to read Deuteronomy before God made him a priest same with Moses in law. Do you think people were not serving God before Deuteronomy was written? Please ask questions that make sense. Do you think it was Deuteronomy that made Job a perfect man in the eyes of God?
Explain how your question is relevant.
Now back to my question please before you make me forget.

Do you know the lineage of Melchizedek or Job after their mention?
Because the Bible listed the names of the descendants of Jacob because the true God always claim they are His CHOSEN people! wink
Re: All Babies Are Enemies Of God by MaxInDHouse(m): 3:56am On Apr 19, 2023
tctrills:

When a JW baby dies what's the difference. Now let's see the relationship between angels and babies.
The wages of sin is DEATH! Romans 6:23
tctrills:

See that you do not despise one of these little ones. For I tell you that their angels in heaven always see the face of my Father in heaven.

God has his angels watching these precious ones. If this is how to be an enemy then we all should be enemies with God.
Jesus wasn't talking about literal babies here but adults who have humbled themselves as children due to their love for God, when such ones sit down with JWs to study the Bible like children JEHOVAH our God always send His angels to register their name in His memory book! Malachi 3:16

Do you still have more questions? smiley
Re: All Babies Are Enemies Of God by tctrills: 5:35am On Apr 19, 2023
MaxInDHouse:

The wages of sin is DEATH! Romans 6:23

Jesus wasn't talking about literal babies here but adults who have humbled themselves as children due to their love for God, when such ones sit down with JWs to study the Bible like children JEHOVAH our God always send His angels to register their name in His memory book! Malachi 3:16

Do you still have more questions? smiley

You are either a liar or you don't read.
That quote is from chapter 18 of Matthew.
Now you have shown you are just a lazy person who would say anything his master's tell him without reading to know for himself.
Now let's see who Jesus Christ was talking about in that verse.
Here are some of the previous verses.
At the same time came the disciples unto Jesus, saying, Who is the greatest in the kingdom of heaven?

2 And Jesus called a little child unto him, and set him in the midst of them,

3 And said, Verily I say unto you, Except ye be converted, and become as little children, ye shall not enter into the kingdom of heaven.

4 Whosoever therefore shall humble himself as this little child, the same is greatest in the kingdom of heaven.

Even though we don't agree, I see you as an intelligent person but you are being lazy and ignorant when you would not read a single verse before writing your JW talk points.

Please read the verses or even the chapter it had nothing to do with adults. Please read before commenting and stop embarrassing yourself.

You would be better able to defend your religion if you learn to read the bible and not just JW talking points.

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Re: All Babies Are Enemies Of God by tctrills: 5:38am On Apr 19, 2023
MaxInDHouse:


Do you know the lineage of Melchizedek or Job after their mention?
Because the Bible listed the names of the descendants of Jacob because the true God always claim they are His CHOSEN people! wink
The bible is a record of the lineage of Jacob not Melchizedek.
But let's say you are Right. The JW argument is because there is no record of Melchizedek lineage, it means Melchizedek was not allowed to teach his children the word of God? How does that even make sense.
Re: All Babies Are Enemies Of God by jaephoenix(m): 5:50am On Apr 19, 2023
Janosky:


You are very glued to spreading FALSEHOOD and LYING to yourself.


Jaephoenix alias LottiOk,
Look at the Yahweh's witnesses screenshot you saw LDS in the Google in your brain.
The same manner you were exposed LYING against MaxinDHouse. grin grin


Awon (So called ) medical doctor, filled with DECEIT.
.
grin grin
Ok now I get it.
I was talking about Maxindhouse posts about JWs but you keep on showing me Google hits which are completely different to my discourse.
Its a common JW theme. I noticed it during my blood transfusion debate with you dumbos. Once your opponent is on a topic which is uncomfortable for you guys, you switch topics to a more comfortable area and completely ignore the main topic of the debate. Its called the Chewbacca Defense or Ignorance of Obsfuscation. Lawyers and politicians engage in it in courtroom showdowns and political debates. As a Chewbacca defense distracts and misleads, it is an example of a red herring. It is also an example of an irrelevant conclusion, a type of informal fallacy in which one making an argument fails to address the issue in question. Thus Maxindhouse and his cohorts makes sure your argument or debate draws over days or weeks. In the end, his opponent wears himself out, and Max declares himself winner.
Dear Max, I think JW its time you change your tactics. Ignorance of Obsfuscation is getting boring.
Thank you grin

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Re: All Babies Are Enemies Of God by MaxInDHouse(m): 6:55am On Apr 19, 2023
I have told you that you and i can never agree on the interpretation of what Jesus said so go straight to your question since you're interested in knowing what JWs believe.
Babies are God's enemies and i have given you the reasons why we believe so.
What Stephen Leth said is for JWs globally not for any other religionist so if you're interested just ask for why we hold onto such belief we know what an enemy of our God means and how to treat the enemies of our God! wink

tctrills:

You are either a liar or you don't read.
That quote is from chapter 18 of Matthew.
Now you have shown you are just a lazy person who would say anything his master's tell him without reading to know for himself.
Now let's see who Jesus Christ was talking about in that verse.Here are some of the previous verses. At the same time came the disciples unto Jesus, saying, Who is the greatest in the kingdom of heaven?
2 And Jesus called a little child unto him, and set him in the midst of them,
3 And said, Verily I say unto you, Except ye be converted, and become as little children, ye shall not enter into the kingdom of heaven.
4 Whosoever therefore shall humble himself as this little child, the same is greatest in the kingdom of heaven. Even though we don't agree, I see you as an intelligent person but you are being lazy and ignorant when you would not read a single verse before writing your JW talk points. Please read the verses or even the chapter it had nothing to do with adults. Please read before commenting and stop embarrassing yourself. You would be better able to defend your religion if you learn to read the bible and not just JW talking points.
Re: All Babies Are Enemies Of God by blowjohn(m): 7:05am On Apr 19, 2023
The question I always ask is this:
How come a following founded not too long ago is the only way to eternity.

So God waited that long for JW to be formed?
What about people living in pre JW era?

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Re: All Babies Are Enemies Of God by MaxInDHouse(m): 7:05am On Apr 19, 2023
tctrills:

The bible is a record of the lineage of Jacob not Melchizedek. But let's say you are Right. The JW argument is because there is no record of Melchizedek lineage, it means Melchizedek was not allowed to teach his children the word of God? How does that even make sense.
NO! There's a purpose why laws were given to the Israelites if you don't know just ask but if you feel you can figure it out on your own go ahead and do so but it's clear that the God of Abraham chose Isaac out of eight sons born to Abraham, He (God) chose Jacob out of the two sons born to Isaac and with the descendants of Jacob He established the covenant promised to Abraham using the laws to seal it.

That's why only Israelites were commanded to pass God's laws unto their children {Deuteronomy 6:6-7} if they truthfully love the God of their father Abraham! Deuteronomy 6:4-5 compare to Mark 12:29-30

Do you want to know why God emphasized that Israelites should inculcate His laws in the hearts of their children or not? grin
Re: All Babies Are Enemies Of God by tctrills: 7:08am On Apr 19, 2023
MaxInDHouse:
I have told you that you and i can never agree on the interpretation of what Jesus said so go straight to your question since you're interested in knowing what JWs believe.
Babies are God's enemies and i have given you the reasons why we believe so.
What Stephen Leth said is for JWs globally not for any other religionist so if you're interested just ask for why we hold onto such belief we know what an enemy of our God means and how to treat the enemies of our God! wink

Let me get you. You are saying that according to JW interpretation in the verses below, Jesus was speaking of a grown man right?

At the same time came the disciples unto Jesus, saying, Who is the greatest in the kingdom of heaven?

2 And Jesus called a little child unto him, and set him in the midst of them,

3 And said, Verily I say unto you, Except ye be converted, and become as little children, ye shall not enter into the kingdom of heaven.

4 Whosoever therefore shall humble himself as this little child, the same is greatest in the kingdom of heaven.

Stop trying to pretend. What interpretation are you talking about here.
Even your JW published bible does not defend your lies.
The bible is written in English it's not like some hidden thing you lie about.
Your bible says Jesus Christ brought a child but in other to prove children are evil you decide it is no longer a child but a grown adult and you blame it on interpretation.
Why don't you claim he was talking about elephants?
Dishonest and interpretation mistakes are not the same thing.

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Re: All Babies Are Enemies Of God by tctrills: 7:13am On Apr 19, 2023
MaxInDHouse:

NO! There's a purpose why laws were given to the Israelites if you don't know just ask but if you feel you can figure it out on your own go ahead and do so but it's clear that the God of Abraham chose Isaac out of eight sons born to Abraham, He (God) chose Jacob out of the two sons born to Isaac and with the descendants of Jacob He established the covenant promised to Abraham using the laws to seal it.

That's why only Israelites were commanded to pass God's laws unto their children {Deuteronomy 6:6-7} if they truthfully love the God of their father Abraham! Deuteronomy 6:4-5 compare to Mark 12:29-30

Do you want to know why God emphasized that Israelites should inculcate His laws in the hearts of their children or not? grin

I need to fully understand you. You are saying that according to JW teaching, Job and Melchizedek were not allowed to teach their kids the word of God?
You are saying that before Deuteronomy 6:6-7 parents were not allowed to teach kids the word of God?
Please show me where you read that.

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Re: All Babies Are Enemies Of God by MaxInDHouse(m): 7:15am On Apr 19, 2023
blowjohn:

The question I always ask is this:
How come a following founded not too long ago is the only way to eternity.
So God waited that long for JW to be formed?
What about people living in pre JW era?

Thought provoking question! smiley

JEHOVAH'S WITNESSES ORGANIZATION began with Abel that's what Paul penned down {Hebrews 11:4} as inspired by God's Holy Spirit {2Timothy 3:16; 2Peter 1:21} but the group name was hidden from Satan and all his agents for thousands of years not until Jesus returned in 1914 to restructure the group by organizing his disciples to start working as he established the preaching and teaching campaign of God's Kingdom in the first century. Only one group heed his call and began working with him that's why 12 years later after they've preached in many land and formed a global family of peace loving worshipers {Isaiah 2:2-4; Micah 4:1-3} while Satan blindfolded all others {2Corinthians 4:4} making them to slaughter one another {Revelations 6:3-4} God's people were separated clearly so JEHOVAH began calling us by another group name JEHOVAH'S WITNESSES in the year 1931! Isaiah 65:15

Do you still have more reasonable questions? smiley
Re: All Babies Are Enemies Of God by MaxInDHouse(m): 7:22am On Apr 19, 2023
tctrills:

Let me get you. You are saying that according to JW interpretation in the verses below, Jesus was speaking of a grown men right?
What Jesus meant became clear when he later called his disciples many of who are older than him "children" {John 21:5} so it became part of our spiritual language {Zephaniah 3:9} calling adults who have humbly subjected themselves like little children to learn! 1John 2:1; 3:18; 5:21


Do you still have further questions? grin
Re: All Babies Are Enemies Of God by tctrills: 7:32am On Apr 19, 2023
MaxInDHouse:

What Jesus meant became clear when he later called his disciples many of who are older than him "children" {John 21:5} so it became part of our spiritual language {Zephaniah 3:9} calling adults who have humbly subjected themselves like little children to learn! 1John 2:1; 3:18; 5:21


Do you still have further questions? grin
Your bible says he called a little children. And you are qouting John. Oga the incident is in Matthew. Are you confused again.
Re: All Babies Are Enemies Of God by MaxInDHouse(m): 7:37am On Apr 19, 2023
tctrills:

I need to fully understand you. You are saying that according to JW teaching, Job and Melchizedek were not allowed to teach their kids the word of God? You are saying that before Deuteronomy 6:6-7 parents were not allowed to teach kids the word of God? Please show me where you read that.

Ọmọ you're really funny walahi talahi! grin

If you want to learn just humble yourself there's no gra gra in this matter it's either you humble yourself to learn from us or go ahead and figure things out all by yourself or any spirit can assist you but with us you must humble yourself!

Before God established the law covenant with the children of Jacob (Israel) most people only try to teach their children what they know could benefit them, some taught their children how to pursue riches and selfish goals while others trained children to be conscientious.
So those teaching their children to be honest hearted and sincere are the ones God picked interested in {Romans 2:15} that's why people like Methuselah, Enoch, Noah, Job and many others caught God's attention as His angels sent throughout the earth are reporting back to Him! Ezekiel 10:12 compare to 2Chronicles 16:9
But no matter the things anyone teach his or her child all are like filthy rags when compared to God's laws {Isaiah 64:6} that's why the true God always call Himself the God of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob because that's the lineage with which He established His righteous decrees.

Do you still have further questions? smiley
Re: All Babies Are Enemies Of God by MaxInDHouse(m): 7:41am On Apr 19, 2023
tctrills:

Your bible says he called a little children. And you are qouting John. Oga the incident is in Matthew. Are you confused again.
Ọmọ we use scriptures to interprets scriptures so if you're arguing over what Jesus meant by "children" i will quote where our born again brother (apostle John) makes use of the same language to prove that Jesus was talking about adults who have humbled themselves to learn like little children! 1John 2:1; 3:18; 5:21

Do you still have further questions? grin

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