Jones4190:
you will never the oba of Benin visiting anybody.
I love their tradition

Your Oba of Benin was in Abuja to visit Buhari. If you want to argue, I will show you pictures.
Oba don dey travel.

Ghostwon82221:

First of all, it is not a salary, they are not workers, they are monarchs, it is an allowance' Second of all, the money doesn't belong to any LG chairman, it belongs to Nigeria !
Third of all, the allowance paid to the king of England also gets delivered to him by someone much lower than the prime minister in the UK government, does that make the king of England inferior to that civil servant?

Use your brain, mate!

Also, I don't know if you are aware, but presidents don't pay themselves their salaries, that is done by a person much lower than them in the government ranking !
Try and make sense, please.

It is a salary it is taxable and they can be sacked
They are employees of the Local government
The issue is not who owns the money but who pays it and who can stop it and how that feeds into hierarchy.
In law in many states the LG chairman has the power to suspend or sanction them or to summon them to his office.

The last paragraph is childish and stupid
It does not deserve a response.

Jogs1900:

The guy no know say the so called first class king report to LG chairman...
In fact it's local government that pays Kings salaries.
Kings don't have constitutional power but LG chairmen have.

For your information (with badly educated Nigerians, I have to repeat my self many times) first class monarchs are not civil servants !
They do not belong to the government ranking! They are the leaders of the precolonial governments of the region.
I don't know what happens in some strange States, but in Edo state, the emperor certainly doesn't report to LG chairmen.

Ghostwon82221:

Even in other regions, his statement is false.
In some other regions, the governor has power over the monarchs (not in Benin), but to say an lg chairmen is above a first class monarch is the stupidest thing I have ever heard.

Oga even in benin it same.. It just down to public acceptance.. Obaseki can dethrone the oba but it just the population will go into uproar.. That is all but legally in court if the LG chairman does it, it will stand.. That is the law. I once worked in my university day with ALGON.. It might not suit you or you might not like it but that is what it is... The law no dey look uche face..

Ghostwon82221:


For your information, with badly educated Nigerians, I have to repeat my self many times, first class monarchs are not civil servants !
They do not belong to the government ranking! They are the leaders of the precolonial governments of the region.
I don't know what happens in some strange States, but in Edo state, the emperor certainly doesn't report to LG chairmen.

Does Benin King have any constitutional role?

Gajagojo:

It is a salary it is taxable and they can be sacked
They are employees of the Local government
The issue is not who owns the money but who pays it and who can stop it and how that feeds into hierarchy.
In law in many states the LG chairman has the power to suspend or sanction them or to summon them to his office.

1) the monarchs whom you are talking about are not first class monarchs, you don't seem to know the difference.
2) the president's salary is paid to him by a civil servant much lower than him in hierarchy.
3) the king of England's allowance is also paid to him by a civil servant whom is low in the government hierarchy.
4) who can stop the allowance? Definitely not the LG chairman!
5) who can remove a monarch ? Definitely not an LG chairman

Ghostwon82221:

1) in what sense is LG chairman more powerful than a first class monarch ?
2) lg chairman bows to first class monarch, I don't recall the opposite happening
3) ambassadors and foreign leaders do visit first class monarchs, but they don't visit LG chairman, why is that ? Are they unaware of your "ranking" ?
4) presidential candidates do visit first class monarchs, but they don't visit LG chairman, why is that ?
5) when people just repeat sentences without using their brains and asking themselves how the sentence even makes sense...

The Oba of Benin is under the LG Chairman. The Commissioner of Chieftaincy Affairs signed his certificate. That's why Obaseki openly chopped the Oba's eyes in public as regards location of the returned Bini artifacts.
Go and ask Lamido Sanusi what his eyes saw in Kano. Oba of Benin's own is even very small.

Jogs1900:

Does Benin King have any constitutional role?

As I keep telling you, the monarchs are not civil servants !
They are not members of the post colonial government!
Is this so hard to understand?

Jones4190:
you will never the oba of Benin visiting anybody.
I love their tradition

Its a lie. Oba of Benin visited UK to beg for Benin artefacts to be returned.

Wickedfacts:


The Oba of Benin is under the LG Chairman. The Commissioner of Chieftaincy Affairs signed his certificate. That's why Obaseki openly chopped the Oba's eyes in public as regards location of the returned Bini artifacts.
Go and ask Lamido Sanusi what his eyes saw in Kano. Oba of Benin's own is even very small.

It is hard to debate a fool, logic doesn't matter to you guys.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wu4GSLI18s8

Ghostwon82221:

1) the monarchs whom you are talking about are not first class monarchs, you don't seem to know the difference.
2) the president's salary is paid to him by a civil servant much lower than him in hierarchy.
3) the king of England's allowance is also paid to him by a civil servant whom is low in the government hierarchy.
4) who can stop the allowance? Definitely not the LG chairman!
5) who can remove a monarch ? Definitely not an LG chairman

Is there anything like first class monarch in the constitution?
Can you define that term?
The LG chairman can stop salaries and start the process of removal. Ultimately in many states they sign the removal letter.
It has been so since colonial times under Native Authority
Different states have different laws but in several states they are under the LG
Your comments about officials that pay the salary are idiotic and do not deserve a response.
Commanders in chief declare war
they Do not shoot guns but are responsible
So hiding behind a finger is what I expect from.a child
I do not have time for childish talk

Gajagojo:

Is there anything like first class monarch in the constitution?
Can you define that term?

Is there anything like scientist or mathematician in the constitution? Can you define that term to me ?

Ghostwon82221:

As I keep telling you, the monarchs are not civil servants !
They are not members of the post colonial government!
Is this so hard to understand?

See, in the colonial era, some kings were given constitutional power. Now, they don't have it anymore...They are seriously begging for it.
If you look at kings with an entourage, anywhere they are going, You will see local government vehicle with them, LG provides security for them and LG maintain their palaces.

Ghostwon82221:

Is there anything like scientist or mathematician in the constitution? Can you define that term to me ?

in short you have nothing more to say?
Good.
F,uck off

Gajagojo:

The LG chairman can stop salaries and start the process of removal. Ultimately in many states they sign the removal letter.
It has been so since colonial times under Native Authority

Anatomy of a lie or the shifting of the goal post.
So now it is no longer about removing a monarch but about "starting the process of removal" (whatever that means).
And yet again, an lg chairman can not stop the allowance of a monarch, the lg chairman lacks that authority, at least in my state.
And it has definitely not been so since "colonial times", and it seems you don't fully understand that "colonial times" was s period when a foreign country was imposing its law on us

I can't win a debate against a fool.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wu4GSLI18s8

Gajagojo:
in short you have nothing more to say?
Good.
F,uck off

I was exposing the stupidity of your comment to you, how come you didn't get it ?

Jogs1900:

See, in the colonial era, some kings were given constitutional power.

The colonial era, which is an era in which a foreign country was ruling over us, had several phases and to the best of my recollection of texts from that era, the tool used by the British was indirect rule. Ask yourself what that means.

I think the lack of history in your schools has damaged your comprehension of life. I studied in Europe and don't have the same intellectual problems as you.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wu4GSLI18s8

Brief explanation of colonisation to people who didn't do history in school:
In chronological order:
1) first class monarchs were leaders of precolonial countries just like the king of Saudi Arabia is the ruler of Saudi Arabia today
2) a foreign country with much more firepower invaded the kingdoms of the region
3) the foreign power then created Nigeria by adding together all the kingdoms which it had invaded.

Jones4190:
You will never the oba of Benin visiting anybody.
I love their tradition

But he visited wike in Port Harcourt and some other even... in Abuja and so many events...

But his predecessor don't go outside the Benin territory

It is impossible for an intelligent person to win an argument against a fool, in this case you have several fools...😓
Thank god I studied in Europe, where they have real schools.

Jogs1900:

The Queen of England has a constitutional role(head of government) while our kings don't have any.

Actually if I recall, the head of the British government is the prime minister, not the monarch. But indeed the monarch does have a constitutional role.
I made my comment in a context, the person whom I was replying claimed that first class monarchs were inferior to LG chairmen because of chairmen paid their "salaries". I showed an example of an "LG chairman" paying the "salary" of a monarch whom is clearly not inferior to the "LG chairman"

I really wonder if you guys do have brains. It is as if I were talking to teenagers here.

Why do fools always see themselves as smart and never pay attention to logic ?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oFL5NoM9GVE

Jones4190:
you will never the oba of Benin visiting anybody.
I love their tradition

You are not current

pquaver:

He is right.. They are under the LG chairman..
The office of local government und chieftaincy affairs is where thier office is under and it is headed by the LG chairman.. That show Ganduje removed Sanusi.. He appointed the LG chairman he will just order him.. So again LG chairmam is above any monarch in nigeria legally..Facts..

Again:

Ghostwon82221:

As I keep telling you, the monarchs are not civil servants !
They are not members of the post colonial government!
Is this so hard to understand?

Ghostwon82221:

1) in what sense is LG chairman more powerful than a first class monarch ?
2) lg chairman bows to first class monarch, I don't recall the opposite happening
3) ambassadors and foreign leaders do visit first class monarchs, but they don't visit LG chairman, why is that ? Are they unaware of your "ranking" ?
4) presidential candidates do visit first class monarchs, but they don't visit LG chairman, why is that ?
5) when people just repeat sentences without using their brains and asking themselves how the sentence even makes sense...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wu4GSLI18s8

Ghostwon82221:

1) in what sense is LG chairman more powerful than a first class monarch ?
2) lg chairman bows to first class monarch, I don't recall the opposite happening
3) ambassadors and foreign leaders do visit first class monarchs, but they don't visit LG chairman, why is that ? Are they unaware of your "ranking" ?
4) presidential candidates do visit first class monarchs, but they don't visit LG chairman, why is that ?
5) when people just repeat sentences without using their brains and asking themselves how the sentence even makes sense...

Traditional rulers get their monthly stipend from local governments chairman and they under local chairman.

If you show a fool that he is s fool, will he change his ways and get smarter ? I am testing this hypothesis. Let's see.
What I know is that most fools don't know that they are fools, they enter debates as if it were a war, as if it were about who shouts the loudest.
They ignore logic and never deviate from their initial statement. They don't care about reality, they want their position to win, that is all.

Ghostwon82221:
Why do fools always see themselves as smart and never pay attention to logic ?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oFL5NoM9GVE

Very good question to start your journey of self discovery with

MissLeslie:


Traditional rulers get their monthly stipend from local governments chairman and they under local chairman.

Did you notice that you repeated word for word what others said right here before you ?
Ask yourself why you guys repeat the same sentences, why can't you guys say anything original?

Ghostwon82221:


Again:



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wu4GSLI18s8

Your first class kings you claim were precolonial right, pre colonial was there Nigeria? But today the kings are Nigerians and Nigerian kings right? What does it tell you? The fall under the constitution of tge federal republic of Nigeria.. Your king or oba is not greater than Nigeria constitution.. Under that constitution they fall under state government and still further under the office of the Local government and chieftaincy affairs headed by LG chairman... Your can post all videos of idioms or proverbs you like.. The law no send you. It is what it is..

Gajagojo:


Very good question to start your journey of self discovery with

My scientific works says I'm smart.
The fool in question is you, but like the video says, you don't see it.
I'm a mathematician, I studied and do my work in Europe.
Compare my intellect to yours

Ghostwon82221:

Actually if I recall, the head of the British government is the prime minister, not the monarch. But indeed the monarch does have a constitutional role.
I made my comment in a context, the person whom I was replying claimed that first class monarchs were inferior to LG chairmen because of chairmen paid their "salaries". I showed an example of an "LG chairman" paying the "salary" of a monarch whom is clearly not inferior to the "LG chairman"

I really wonder if you guys do have brains. It is as if I were talking to teenagers here.

You are the one that can't support your claim with fact unless you insult others..Anyway, this is part of the power the British monarchy has which is constitutional unlike Oba of Benin without constitutional role..I will not dignify you with any response afterward.

Ghostwon82221:
It
Thank god I studied in Europe, where they have real schools.

. Weak . You obviously have strong feelings of inferiority and inadequacy

Why are you lying?studied in which Europe? You are a liar
Weak ass liar