GAZZUZZ:
Final results will be released in 1st blank post, but from our coalition centre these are the results coming in on IREV for the presidential.

Did you bend the generator to ensure the liter of petrol was entirely consumed?

joinnow:

About to start at Rivers state

Where in rivers state?


Biogas or what bro??

eepeepook:
There is a possibility of an explosion. I am not doing. I’ll feed my eyes then pass.

This person just read my mind.... But bro, there are some cylinders that don't explode

it's not easy to be filling gas na...

Except you have large enough cylinder

Pythagoras001:
Lpg are usually odorless and for safety reason it mixed with other gas like butane. The danger here is that if it is pure lng and their is leak the gas would disperse far away from the source, you may not know and an explosion can be triggered by an ignition several meters away.

nawaforyouo:
LPG gas is too expensive in Nigeria to make a difference

in saner climes, 1 Kg of LPG is around half the price of 1 litre of petrol

It might even be more expensive to run on LPG sef

Nigeria na nonsense abeg. All of us don enter am whether you like it or not

Atomic bomb

GAZZUZZ:


Zoom in . Uses CNG/LPG/PMS

interesting and very fine. Thanks

I wish car conversion is ds simple.


I would have move to CNG but do we have CNG dispensing pumps on our filling station like ds?

I've not see except for LPG

GAZZUZZ:


You put gas and inflammable in same sentence and expect it not to burn?

No for Biogas,it is not flammable

You left out one important info......how much did u spend to install the LPG carburettor?

GAZZUZZ:
In response to the removal of PMS subsidy.

I have installed an LPG/CNG carburettor that also works with PMS (petrol)

Kindly note

Fuel tank emptied via the supply hose .

Scale set to measure lpg as it is consumed in KG

1L of fuel measured out into a gallon and will be poured into gen.

Same amount of load will be applied in both instances .

Timer set to zero.

I will start with LPG.... Will run for 1KG and I will turn it off once it hits 1kg on the scale the
mark the time.

Next will be petrol PMS, it will also run for 1L then I will mark the amount of time it took before gen went off.

1kg of gas = ₦650 (June 12 2023)

1L of petrol = ₦500 (June 12 2023)

Let's start.

Any questions feel free to ask.


Modified summary


Total time of LPG - 197mins at #650/kg

= #3.3/min

Total time or petrol - 106 mins at #500/l

= #4.7/m

Another way of looking at it .

With Gas

By calculation

1kg of gas at 650naira per kg lasted 3.17hours (3hours 17mins)

How many kg of gas per hour
650/3.17= 205.

Cost per hour = ₦205

I.e ₦205 of gas lasted one hour

*With Petrol*

One liter at #500 lasted 1.46mins (one hour 46mins)

Cost per hour= 500/1.46 = ₦342


Conclusion LPG cheaper

Personally gas is so safer than pms any day, but I'll have to put out this warning.

WARNING!!!!

LPG IS FLAMMABLE.

THE GAS LINE AND GAS CYLINDER SHOULD BE KEPT AWAY FROM NAKED FLAMES AND HOT SURFACES.

WHEN TROUBLESHOOTING A PROBLEM WITH YOUR GEN USE PMS ESPECIALLY FOR VALVE AND ELECTRICAL ISSUES.

FINALLY THE END PRODUCT IS STILL CARBON MONOXIDE AND GEN SHOULD NEVER BE USED IN A CONFINEMENT, CARBON MONOXIDE WILL KILL IF THIS HAPPENS.


Happy independence day people .

[quote author=GAZZUZZ post=123749363][/quote]

What is the load in Watts used?

FIZZBEE:
Price are not the same and CNG (Compressed Natural Gas) is different from LPG (Liquified Petroleum Gas).
LPG, which is either propane or butane (or mixture of both) is also known as Cooking Gas or Domestic Gas.

Thank you

Pythagoras001:
Compare 1kg of fuel to 1 kg of gas

Do you buy fuel per kg?
Do you buy gas per liter?

You can only compare based on their unit cost. Fuel is sold per liter. Gas is sold per KG.

GAZZUZZ:
In response to the removal of PMS subsidy.

I have installed an LPG/CNG carburettor that also works with PMS (petrol)

Kindly note

Fuel tank emptied via the supply hose .

Scale set to measure lpg as it is consumed in KG

1L of fuel measured out into a gallon and will be poured into gen.

Same amount of load will be applied in both instances .

Timer set to zero.

I will start with LPG.... Will run for 1KG and I will turn it off once it hits 1kg on the scale the
mark the time.

Next will be petrol PMS, it will also run for 1L then I will mark the amount of time it took before gen went off.

1kg of gas = ₦650 (June 12 2023)

1L of petrol = ₦500 (June 12 2023)

Let's start.

Any questions feel free to ask.


Modified summary


Total time of LPG - 197mins at #650/kg

= #3.3/min

Total time or petrol - 106 mins at #500/l

= #4.7/m

Another way of looking at it .

With Gas

By calculation

1kg of gas at 650naira per kg lasted 3.17hours (3hours 17mins)

How many kg of gas per hour
650/3.17= 205.

Cost per hour = ₦205

I.e ₦205 of gas lasted one hour

*With Petrol*

One liter at #500 lasted 1.46mins (one hour 46mins)

Cost per hour= 500/1.46 = ₦342


Conclusion LPG cheaper

Personally gas is so safer than pms any day, but I'll have to put out this warning.

WARNING!!!!

LPG IS FLAMMABLE.

THE GAS LINE AND GAS CYLINDER SHOULD BE KEPT AWAY FROM NAKED FLAMES AND HOT SURFACES.

WHEN TROUBLESHOOTING A PROBLEM WITH YOUR GEN USE PMS ESPECIALLY FOR VALVE AND ELECTRICAL ISSUES.

FINALLY THE END PRODUCT IS STILL CARBON MONOXIDE AND GEN SHOULD NEVER BE USED IN A CONFINEMENT, CARBON MONOXIDE WILL KILL IF THIS HAPPENS.


Happy independence day people .

Since you are on a cost/hour comparison. It would have been equal amount for petrol and gas. #650 worth of petrol to #650 worth of gas. My 2 cents tho.

GAZZUZZ:
In response to the removal of PMS subsidy.

I have installed an LPG/CNG carburettor that also works with PMS (petrol)

Kindly note

Fuel tank emptied via the supply hose .

Scale set to measure lpg as it is consumed in KG

1L of fuel measured out into a gallon and will be poured into gen.

Same amount of load will be applied in both instances .

Timer set to zero.

I will start with LPG.... Will run for 1KG and I will turn it off once it hits 1kg on the scale the
mark the time.

Next will be petrol PMS, it will also run for 1L then I will mark the amount of time it took before gen went off.

1kg of gas = ₦650 (June 12 2023)

1L of petrol = ₦500 (June 12 2023)

Let's start.

Any questions feel free to ask.


Modified summary


Total time of LPG - 197mins at #650/kg

= #3.3/min

Total time or petrol - 106 mins at #500/l

= #4.7/m

Another way of looking at it .

With Gas

By calculation

1kg of gas at 650naira per kg lasted 3.17hours (3hours 17mins)

How many kg of gas per hour
650/3.17= 205.

Cost per hour = ₦205

I.e ₦205 of gas lasted one hour

*With Petrol*

One liter at #500 lasted 1.46mins (one hour 46mins)

Cost per hour= 500/1.46 = ₦342


Conclusion LPG cheaper

Personally gas is so safer than pms any day, but I'll have to put out this warning.

WARNING!!!!

LPG IS FLAMMABLE.

THE GAS LINE AND GAS CYLINDER SHOULD BE KEPT AWAY FROM NAKED FLAMES AND HOT SURFACES.

WHEN TROUBLESHOOTING A PROBLEM WITH YOUR GEN USE PMS ESPECIALLY FOR VALVE AND ELECTRICAL ISSUES.

FINALLY THE END PRODUCT IS STILL CARBON MONOXIDE AND GEN SHOULD NEVER BE USED IN A CONFINEMENT, CARBON MONOXIDE WILL KILL IF THIS HAPPENS.


Happy independence day people .

Wailer Banton is not going to be happy with this disclosure.😜😜😜😜

nex:


If you use a Non-Explosive Composite Fibre Cylinder, you won't have to worry about explosion with LPG, LNG, CNG or any other type of gas.

I'm just waiting for the results to come in, so I can decide on what to do next with my generator.

In terms of pricing, it is possible that petrol prices will fall a little with less demand if many Nigerians switch to gas to fuel their cars and generators, but what will happen to the price of gas with the high demand? You expect price of gas to remain below N700 per kg?

you sell this?

Kelvin30286063:

Like fart? 😀 😀 😀

lmao ..nah...fart is Butane..lwkmd

Thank you so much for this. It’s quite insightful, really appreciate the effort you put in demystifying this CNG/PMS tussle. It was such an easy read for sure. Na man you be👍

I knew this subsidy removal will make another generation of igbo traders multi millionaire while some comedians keep trying to contain them with outdated laws

nex:


If you use a Non-Explosive Composite Fibre Cylinder, you won't have to worry about explosion with LPG, LNG, CNG or any other type of gas.

I'm just waiting for the results to come in, so I can decide on what to do next with my generator.

In terms of pricing, it is possible that petrol prices will fall a little with less demand if many Nigerians switch to gas to fuel their cars and generators, but what will happen to the price of gas with the high demand? You expect price of gas to remain below N700 per kg?

hahahahaha. If d price of gas increase, we switch to fuel again. Na to dey confuse dem.

U dey play with petrol and gas.


If it's not diesel, count me out.

There is a CNG dispense station opposite MTU/MFM, along Lagos-Ibadan Expressway. The station has been in existence for some years .

Healthquest:
interesting and very fine. Thanks

I wish car conversion is ds simple.


I would have move to CNG but do we have CNG dispensing pumps on our filling station like ds?

I've not see except for LPG

brightleave:
For your info, 1kg of gas is not equivalent to 1litre of petro. Rather it's equivalent to 1.96litres of petro. Take note sir

It does not change anything considering the primary comparison is cost and going by your analogy approx 2litre of petrol (#1,000) for 1kg of gas means the results would be way more IFO of gas

nex:


If you use a Non-Explosive Composite Fibre Cylinder, you won't have to worry about explosion with LPG, LNG, CNG or any other type of gas.

I'm just waiting for the results to come in, so I can decide on what to do next with my generator.

In terms of pricing, it is possible that petrol prices will fall a little with less demand if many Nigerians switch to gas to fuel their cars and generators, but what will happen to the price of gas with the high demand? You expect price of gas to remain below N700 per kg?

Maybe I should go for this. That metal cylinder scares me.

GAZZUZZ:
In response to the removal of PMS subsidy.

I have installed an LPG/CNG carburettor that also works with PMS (petrol)

Kindly note

Fuel tank emptied via the supply hose .

Scale set to measure lpg as it is consumed in KG

1L of fuel measured out into a gallon and will be poured into gen.

Same amount of load will be applied in both instances .

Timer set to zero.

I will start with LPG.... Will run for 1KG and I will turn it off once it hits 1kg on the scale the
mark the time.

Next will be petrol PMS, it will also run for 1L then I will mark the amount of time it took before gen went off.

1kg of gas = ₦650 (June 12 2023)

1L of petrol = ₦500 (June 12 2023)

Let's start.

Any questions feel free to ask.


Modified summary


Total time of LPG - 197mins at #650/kg

= #3.3/min

Total time or petrol - 106 mins at #500/l

= #4.7/m

Another way of looking at it .

With Gas

By calculation

1kg of gas at 650naira per kg lasted 3.17hours (3hours 17mins)

How many kg of gas per hour
650/3.17= 205.

Cost per hour = ₦205

I.e ₦205 of gas lasted one hour

*With Petrol*

One liter at #500 lasted 1.46mins (one hour 46mins)

Cost per hour= 500/1.46 = ₦342


Conclusion LPG cheaper

Personally gas is so safer than pms any day, but I'll have to put out this warning.

WARNING!!!!

LPG IS FLAMMABLE.

THE GAS LINE AND GAS CYLINDER SHOULD BE KEPT AWAY FROM NAKED FLAMES AND HOT SURFACES.

WHEN TROUBLESHOOTING A PROBLEM WITH YOUR GEN USE PMS ESPECIALLY FOR VALVE AND ELECTRICAL ISSUES.

FINALLY THE END PRODUCT IS STILL CARBON MONOXIDE AND GEN SHOULD NEVER BE USED IN A CONFINEMENT, CARBON MONOXIDE WILL KILL IF THIS HAPPENS.


Happy independence day people .

Load would always differ, unless you are careful with the choice of load

nex:


If you use a Non-Explosive Composite Fibre Cylinder, you won't have to worry about explosion with LPG, LNG, CNG or any other type of gas.

I'm just waiting for the results to come in, so I can decide on what to do next with my generator.

In terms of pricing, it is possible that petrol prices will fall a little with less demand if many Nigerians switch to gas to fuel their cars and generators, but what will happen to the price of gas with the high demand? You expect price of gas to remain below N700 per kg?

Are those the non composites? How much please

nex:


If you use a Non-Explosive Composite Fibre Cylinder, you won't have to worry about explosion with LPG, LNG, CNG or any other type of gas.

I'm just waiting for the results to come in, so I can decide on what to do next with my generator.

In terms of pricing, it is possible that petrol prices will fall a little with less demand if many Nigerians switch to gas to fuel their cars and generators, but what will happen to the price of gas with the high demand? You expect price of gas to remain below N700 per kg?

We have abundance of gas. If we can build the infrastructures.

staga:
The cylinder size is 28kg when full. It can contain 12.5kg of propane (LPG) or equivalent fluid content of 26.5 litres.

A 6.5kVA generator contains 25 litres of fuel and it can only run for a maximum of 12 hours. I stand to be corrected. The OP must have done the test on a 2KVA generator.

I intend to do this test as well. I will run a full 12.5kg cylinder of gas and see how many hours it will last, then run the same gen on a full tank, watch the consumption and the cost, then find out how many litres of PMS it will take to match the number of hours it will take to exhaust a full LPG cylinder.

But it will be better to buy LPG of 10000 and fuel of 10000, then you check how many hours it going to run for.
With that you'll know the cost effective one.

Nice effort on this thread....

For those wondering how this works, view the video below.

Watch from 7mins mark to see how the generator will be started.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DwPcLgjP0bo

Nice

richmondefosa:


Do you buy fuel per kg?
Do you buy gas per liter?

You can only compare based on their unit cost. Fuel is sold per liter. Gas is sold per KG.

you can always do the conversion since you know the fuel density. Working with mass at this velocity close to zero one can safely and correctly assume conservation of mass. The central idea is Just don't compare apples with oranges, meters with yards. Smart people have done this calculations before and you can use their results as a starting point instead of reinventing the wheel. I am only writing this for educational purpose and not trying to sound arogant or trying impress anyone.

Manuella4ace:


But it will be better to buy LPG of 10000 and fuel of 10000, then you check how many hours it going to run for.
With that you'll know the cost effective one.

N10,000 worth of LPG cannot fit into a 12.5kg cylinder. The current price is N6,900.