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Re: Agnosticism Is The Most Scientific answer To The Question Of A Creator by triplechoice(m): 4:07pm On Jul 29, 2023
Maynman:

What is the meaning of Theist and A-theist?

A theist is someone who believes in what he calls God. An atheist has taken the opposite position to that of a theist, he doesn't believe in that same God the theist believes in .

An agnostic is neutral. He neither believes or disbelieve anything. He wants to be sure first before deciding.
Re: Agnosticism Is The Most Scientific answer To The Question Of A Creator by Maynman: 4:09pm On Jul 29, 2023
triplechoice:


A theist is someone who believes in a what he calls God. An atheist has taken the opposite position to that of a theist, he doesn't believe in that same God.
Jargons, a yahweh worshipper is a theist and he believes in his own God, an allah worshipper is a theist and he also believes in his own God but they don’t believe in the same “God”.
God is a title not a person, the Christian god is yahweh and muslim god is allah(hubal)

Where did you get this definition?

Re: Agnosticism Is The Most Scientific answer To The Question Of A Creator by Maynman: 4:12pm On Jul 29, 2023
triplechoice:


A theist is someone who believes in a what he calls God. An atheist has taken the opposite position to that of a theist, he doesn't believe in that same God the theist believes in .
That’s why i said most agnostics are uneducated about “god”.


Theists refers to those that worship greek gods. Atheists those that don’t worship greek gods.
Look up the origin of the word, THEOS

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_atheism#:~:text=The%20most%20important%20Greek%20thinker,intervention%20(see%20scientific%20determinism).

Re: Agnosticism Is The Most Scientific answer To The Question Of A Creator by MaxInDHouse(m): 4:36pm On Jul 29, 2023
Ignorance makes many to conclude that they can prove the existence of God through physical things whereas in all cultures and traditions God/Gods has to do with none physical things. So whether God exist or not it can't be proved by anyone other than using an approach having to do with high intellect.

My uncle attended only secondary school so whenever he gets the sense of something that's difficult to grasp he will say
"I see"
Of course he isn't seeing anything that could be pointed to but it simply means he has grasped what others may fail to grasp.

That's how to approach the understanding of God but it's a pity that the REAL atheists have blindfolded many with lies making them feel that God must be seen, heard or even touched before they can be satisfied that He exist.

Most people claiming atheists today are the results of false religious ideas spread by REAL atheists who are claiming pastors! Matthew 7:16-18
Re: Agnosticism Is The Most Scientific answer To The Question Of A Creator by Maynman: 4:58pm On Jul 29, 2023
“ My uncle attended only secondary school so whenever he gets the sense of something that's difficult to grasp he will say
"I see"
Of course he isn't seeing anything that could be pointed to but it simply means he has grasped what others may fail to grasp.”

Wtf is this 😂😂

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Re: Agnosticism Is The Most Scientific answer To The Question Of A Creator by elated177: 5:22pm On Jul 29, 2023
jae, you are the fruitcake. Are you ready to engage me on his behalf?
Re: Agnosticism Is The Most Scientific answer To The Question Of A Creator by triplechoice(m): 5:56pm On Jul 29, 2023
Maynman:

That’s why i said most agnostics are uneducated about “god”.


Theists refers to those that worship greek gods. Atheists those that don’t worship greek gods.
Look up the origin of the word, THEOS

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_atheism#:~:text=The%20most%20important%20Greek%20thinker,intervention%20(see%20scientific%20determinism).
Theist are those who worship Greek gods? Lol

So every theist around you, Christians and Muslims especially, are worshipping Greek gods?

You have come again mayman.

Whenever you get stuck in an argument, the next thing is to either turn logic on its head or come up with nonsensical arguments to wriggle yourself away from it.

You avoided current definitions of the word, theist, in modern dictionaries to deceive yourself with its description in classical antiquity?

Are you for real?

The meaning of a word can evolve from usage and thats why dictionaries are updated all the time.

There are lots of words in English language or elsewhere that are no longer connected to their origin. You're obviously oblivious to this fact hence your recourse to antiquity.



You're not serious and just want to play.

Look for another person to continue with your weird talk. No longer interested.

Modified. Yes, agnostics don't know much about what God really refers to in religion . There thousands of God claims and descriptions. So by what means can he use to judge every single one of them?


Tell me you that know it all.
Re: Agnosticism Is The Most Scientific answer To The Question Of A Creator by Workch: 6:18pm On Jul 29, 2023
jaephoenix:

Just answer the question sire
I can't answer it, I can't answer whether or not I believe in aliens. Why should I believe or disbelieve if I csnt just b neutral and wait for evidence
Re: Agnosticism Is The Most Scientific answer To The Question Of A Creator by Workch: 6:19pm On Jul 29, 2023
jaephoenix:

Its a yes or no question, kind sire.
Is it too difficult to answer?
the question it's a loaded question and false dichotomy.
You have to understand that some people are neutral and they will ewit for evidence for or against
Re: Agnosticism Is The Most Scientific answer To The Question Of A Creator by triplechoice(m): 6:41pm On Jul 29, 2023
Maynman:

Jargons, a yahweh worshipper is a theist and he believes in his own God, an allah worshipper is a theist and he also believes in his own God but they don’t believe in the same “God”.
God is a title not a person, the Christian god is yahweh and muslim god is allah(hubal)

Where did you get this definition?

You're generalizing because your atheism is founded on the two popular abrahamic religion.

You're clueless about the others
Re: Agnosticism Is The Most Scientific answer To The Question Of A Creator by Maynman: 7:02pm On Jul 29, 2023
triplechoice:


You're generalizing because your atheism is founded on the two popular abrahamic religion.

You're clueless about the others
You are ignorant!
What do you even understand by “religion”?
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Religio
Learn!

What is the religion before abraham?

Re: Agnosticism Is The Most Scientific answer To The Question Of A Creator by Maynman: 7:04pm On Jul 29, 2023
triplechoice:

Theist are those who worship Greek gods? Lol

What do you understand by greek gods?
Keep exposing your ignorance lol

Re: Agnosticism Is The Most Scientific answer To The Question Of A Creator by Maynman: 7:08pm On Jul 29, 2023
triplechoice:

So every theist around you, Christians and Muslims especially, are worshipping Greek gods?


What is the name of the gods that Christians and Muslims are worshipping?

Re: Agnosticism Is The Most Scientific answer To The Question Of A Creator by Maynman: 7:10pm On Jul 29, 2023
triplechoice:

There are lots of words in English language or elsewhere that are no longer connected to their origin. You're obviously oblivious to this fact hence your recourse to antiquity.


I don’t understand; we should no longer use the original meaning of words so we can better understand what it means and how we should use it?
I should not result to history(antiquity), I should be without knowledge like you?

This is appealing to ignorance.
Re: Agnosticism Is The Most Scientific answer To The Question Of A Creator by Maynman: 7:12pm On Jul 29, 2023
triplechoice:

Modified. Yes, agnostics don't know much about what God really refers to in religion . There thousands of God claims and descriptions. So by what means can he use to judge every single one of them?


Agnostics are dullards that don’t know what “religion” or “gods” mean yet they are neutral?
How can you be neutral to ignorance?
Re: Agnosticism Is The Most Scientific answer To The Question Of A Creator by Maynman: 7:15pm On Jul 29, 2023
triplechoice:


Tell me you that know it all.

Yes, i am gnostic, i am not agnostic like you.

If you want knowledge on how the concept of god was created, i can tutor you.

Re: Agnosticism Is The Most Scientific answer To The Question Of A Creator by Maynman: 7:17pm On Jul 29, 2023
triplechoice:

The meaning of a word can evolve from usage and thats why dictionaries are updated all the time.
we are talking about concepts that was developed centuries ago, but you want us to use modern dictionary to understand what ancient cultures did?

All these barren people.

Re: Agnosticism Is The Most Scientific answer To The Question Of A Creator by triplechoice(m): 7:29pm On Jul 29, 2023
Maynman:

I don’t understand; we should no longer use the original meaning of words so we can better understand what it means and how we should use it?
I should not result to history(antiquity), I should be without knowledge like you?

This is appealing to ignorance.
You don't know what it means to appeal to ignorance.

You're the ignorant one who doesn't know that the meaning of a word can evolve from its original meaning and because of that produced something that reeks of crass ignorance

Just show me a current dictionary where a theist is described only has a person who worship Greek gods, or swallow your pride.


Your comments are shocking and very disturbing to read.
Re: Agnosticism Is The Most Scientific answer To The Question Of A Creator by Maynman: 7:33pm On Jul 29, 2023
triplechoice:

You don't know what it means to appeal to ignorance.

You're the ignorant one who doesn't know that the meaning of a word can evolve from its original meaning and because of that produced something that reeks of crass ignorance

Just show me a current dictionary where a theist is described only has a person who worship Greek gods, or swallow your pride.


Your comments are shocking and very disturbing to read.
You don’t even know what “god” mran but you are sha “neutral” 😂

You are the empty one, hear yourself, how can meaning of a word evolve from the ORIGINAL MEANING?

The concept we are talking about didn’t start yesterday. We are talking HISTORY!
This is stark foolishness.

Show me a dictionary that talks on etymology of words, you are empty and it will be the exposed!

Barren thing!

Re: Agnosticism Is The Most Scientific answer To The Question Of A Creator by Maynman: 7:34pm On Jul 29, 2023
triplechoice:


Your comments are shocking and very disturbing to read.
It is shocking For ignorant people like you, we are talking about history of gods, it’s not found in a “current dictionary.”

You are without knowledge indeed.

Re: Agnosticism Is The Most Scientific answer To The Question Of A Creator by Maynman: 7:40pm On Jul 29, 2023
triplechoice:


Just show me a current dictionary where a theist is described only has a person who worship Greek gods, or swallow your pride.
First off, what do you understand by greek gods?
Have you ever heard of Epics?

Stop displaying your ignorance.

Re: Agnosticism Is The Most Scientific answer To The Question Of A Creator by triplechoice(m): 7:42pm On Jul 29, 2023
Maynman:

we are talking about concepts that was developed centuries ago, but you want us to use modern dictionary to understand what ancient cultures did?

All these barren people.

The errors are always detected and corrected. The definition for theist in dictionaries still remain the same after several updates.

So what are you talking about? We should go back to antiquity with you? You're not serious

What you brought now won't help you. It's not possible to have the same errors in every dictionaries at the same time

I said the idea of word evolving from its original is unknown to you hence your recourse to antiquity.

Do you know what it means when everyone in the world agrees to the same thing, but only you disagrees with it.

Just rest. You're no longer making sense and have deflected from the main thing into irrelevancies
Re: Agnosticism Is The Most Scientific answer To The Question Of A Creator by Maynman: 7:45pm On Jul 29, 2023
triplechoice:


The errors are always detected and corrected. The definition for theist in dictionaries still remain the same after several updates.

So what are you talking about? We should go back to antiquity with you? You're not serious
If the errors are always detected and corrected how come words evolve away from their original use?

We are talking about words that originated in Ancient Greece but you want us to use current dictionary to explain it
You are confused.

Re: Agnosticism Is The Most Scientific answer To The Question Of A Creator by Maynman: 7:47pm On Jul 29, 2023
triplechoice:


Do you know what it means when everyone in the world agrees to the same thing, but only you disagrees with it.

Just rest. You're no longer making sense and have deflected from the main thing into irrelevancies
Ignorance, the word theist is not an English word, ask a greek person what “atheos” mean.

Because you lost the meaning of word in English, does not mean the meaning of the words as used by those that owns it is wrong.

It is you that should rest with your barreness, you don’t even know what “greek gods” mean.

Re: Agnosticism Is The Most Scientific answer To The Question Of A Creator by Maynman: 7:53pm On Jul 29, 2023
triplechoice:

I said the idea of word evolving from its original is unknown to you hence your recourse to antiquity.
Borrowed from where?
If we want to know what theism means, should we not go to where it was borrowed into English?

We should continue to be without knowledge and call ourselves “agnostic”?

Re: Agnosticism Is The Most Scientific answer To The Question Of A Creator by triplechoice(m): 7:55pm On Jul 29, 2023
Maynman:

If the errors are always detected and corrected how come words evolve away from their original use?

We are talking about words that originated in Ancient Greece but you want us to use current dictionary to explain it
You are confused.

They evolved through usage .

Words on their own don't mean anything. They are a combination of sounds which a group of people have attached meaning to, and this can change.

It's the things which they describe that's the most important thing.
What does the word, theist currently describe by those using it ?
Re: Agnosticism Is The Most Scientific answer To The Question Of A Creator by Maynman: 7:57pm On Jul 29, 2023
triplechoice:


They evolved through usage .
Through usage of who?
Christians?

Re: Agnosticism Is The Most Scientific answer To The Question Of A Creator by triplechoice(m): 7:58pm On Jul 29, 2023
Maynman:

Borrowed from where?
If we want to know what theism means, should we not go to where it was borrowed into English?

We should continue to be without knowledge and call ourselves “agnostic”?

We are concerned with its current meaning.

If we were discussing its origin then you're on track, but now you're very off it.
Re: Agnosticism Is The Most Scientific answer To The Question Of A Creator by Maynman: 7:58pm On Jul 29, 2023
triplechoice:


What does the word, theist currently describe by those using it ?
Ask those using it.

The original meaning of the word “theist” still remains in greek.
And it is still on Wikipedia and any etymology site.

Re: Agnosticism Is The Most Scientific answer To The Question Of A Creator by Maynman: 7:59pm On Jul 29, 2023
triplechoice:


We are concerned with its current meaning.

If we were discussing its origin then you're on track, but now you're very off it.
We are talking about the origin of gods.
Not current meaning of “god”.

The worship of gods didn’t start yesterday, you are confused!

Re: Agnosticism Is The Most Scientific answer To The Question Of A Creator by triplechoice(m): 8:04pm On Jul 29, 2023
Maynman:

We are talking about the origin of gods.
Not current meaning of “god”.

The worship of gods didn’t start yesterday, you are confused!

No . We are not talking that.

you talking to yourself.

I have left you.

Goodday
Re: Agnosticism Is The Most Scientific answer To The Question Of A Creator by Maynman: 8:07pm On Jul 29, 2023
triplechoice:


No . We are not talking that.

you talking to yourself.

I have left you.

Goodday
Yes, we are talking about the English word “god” that an agnostic does not know if it exist or not.

What qualifies a thing to be a “god”?
Some people god is a stone or tree, does a tree not exist?

You are ignorant.

Stop displaying your barreness.

Once again, what do you understand by “greek gods”?

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