Talking about being objective. If she is objectively looking at it she will refuse it.

But you know what she will accept because she will judge emotionally because of her child, because she is 29 a single mother and unmarried, because she is your ex,
Because she sees you as a second chance, because she believes in the fairy tale of happily ever after.

Don't take your emotions out totally when making decisions, objectivity alone isn't enough.

If I may ask what broke you guys up in the first place have you resolved it. Because we don't go forward in life to come back to what we had already left?

Like I said something is fishy. Check yourself bro.

Lol...

Sangoamadioha1:




Story for the gods🤥😒

Have two children for me and I might consider marrying you.

This statement say it all.

Wow, nice one from you. I'll do that. But make sure you do DNA test to confirm.

beekind:


You women can't just discuss things without being overly emotional.

What other people are doing is get married, have kids and return abroad effectively shutting the door on the lady and making it hard for her to re-marry since she was married to them.

You seem to be quite young but as you get older you realise there is a difference between reality and fantasy and your perception of idealism is only a reflection of what society has fed you.

Like I said, marriage is possible but not guaranteed.
Men are driven by objectivity and not emotions.

I love her truely but love is never enough, life is more complicated than that.

Marriage is not guaranteed. But the possibility of being a single mother of 3 kids with
2 different father is guaranteed, but there is also hope that the kids will be a blessing to family in the future and you say you love this person.

What's holding you back from marrying her now?
Will you be in the country or you will return to your other country while she give birth here?


Just being objective here no emotion Sir.

I don't see any different from what our "heroes" in Naija, aka dem davido them are doing..

If it will elevate her standard of living, I think it's a good deal for her. But, who's going to be raising the kids? You just might end up shooting yourself in the foot.

beekind:
I am in my mid 30s, very comfortable and a dual citizen of Nigeria and a first world country.
I decided to relocate back to Nigeria because of starting a family and having my own children.
Since arriving the country and based on my experiences so far, my plans have changed.

Why? Why didn't you simply meet a gal in the first world country you relocated from instead? Why did you have to move back to Nigeria for such a purpose? Simply tell us that you wanted your old girlfriend back and close the page. Forming boss by pretending you are making her a saving deal is just playing pretend messiah.

Lol, smh, you want her to graduate from being a single mother of one to being a single mother of 3.

Abifarin16:


Have two children for me and I might consider marrying you.

This statement say it all.

All these are in the OP's imagination. He just wants to feel like a 'boss'.

Sangoamadioha1:
■ All these are in the OP's imagination. He just wants to feel like a 'boss'.

This is what you are playing at OP.

This is what is called
Hakimi's marriage arrangements
Wertin l no go hear finished for this life before l pefffff

beekind:
I am in my mid 30s, very comfortable and a dual citizen of Nigeria and a first world country.
I decided to relocate back to Nigeria because of starting a family and having my own children.
Since arriving the country and based on my experiences so far, my plans have changed.

I decided to first focus on having children as I found out that the Nigerian society has become almost worse than the west in terms of sexual debauchery.
People have sex for indomine, girls commit abortion without remorse, the worst thing is that no one here uses protection and by the time your average Nigerian girl reaches 30 years old, she has aborted 4 times, slept with almost 100 men and contacted several stds in the process.

What this means is that disciplined men like me are left with these category of girls, worst still is that they come very entitled and empty and can even ruin you with their lifestyle as they are usually impossible to reform.

Solution:
I had to go back to the drawing board and re-evaluated my plan, I have an ex-girlfriend (29 years old) whom I am very close with. She fits the bill in terms of who I want as a life partner but she is a single mother.
So I gave her a choice.

Have 2 children for me, those 2 children will automatically become dual citizens and I might consider marrying you and adopting your child but even if I don't marry you, your 2 children that you have by me will be taken care of and being dual citizens of a developed country they can turn to a blessing for you and your whole family in future.

Now, let me explain, I still love this lady and my decision was premised on how uncertain I am of what my choice will be in the future as such I wanted to be very open from the beginning, but even at this point, I can not guarantee I will marry her but I could depending on what happens in future.

She's going to give me a feedback later and I am quite positive she will take the offer.

If it were you faced with this option, what would you do ?

Werey you lie too much!!! You came back form a first world country to come and have children in Nigeria, and you are still telling us that your children with a Nigerian father born in Nigeria will have dual citizenship? Oga go and reason your story properly then comeback and post a more comprehensive lie.

Too much stress, go find someone you want to marry. Why go through this, crazy!

beekind:
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She's going to give me a feedback later and I am quite positive she will take the offer.

If it were you faced with this option, what would you do ?

Thunder fire you and your dual citizenship

sammychimex:



Werey you lie too much!!! You came back form a first world country to come and have children in Nigeria, and you are still telling us that your children with a Nigerian father born in Nigeria will have dual citizenship? Oga go and reason your story properly then comeback and post a more comprehensive lie.

It seems you lack the capacity for comprehension, others before you have read the thread only you seem to be confused.
Better go back to collect your school fees cos its obvious you have been scammed.

beekind:
I am in my mid 30s, very comfortable and a dual citizen of Nigeria and a first world country.
I decided to relocate back to Nigeria because of starting a family and having my own children.
Since arriving the country and based on my experiences so far, my plans have changed.

I decided to first focus on having children as I found out that the Nigerian society has become almost worse than the west in terms of sexual debauchery.
People have sex for indomine, girls commit abortion without remorse, the worst thing is that no one here uses protection and by the time your average Nigerian girl reaches 30 years old, she has aborted 4 times, slept with almost 100 men and contacted several stds in the process.

What this means is that disciplined men like me are left with these category of girls, worst still is that they come very entitled and empty and can even ruin you with their lifestyle as they are usually impossible to reform.

Solution:
I had to go back to the drawing board and re-evaluated my plan, I have an ex-girlfriend (29 years old) whom I am very close with. She fits the bill in terms of who I want as a life partner but she is a single mother.
So I gave her a choice.

Have 2 children for me, those 2 children will automatically become dual citizens and I might consider marrying you and adopting your child but even if I don't marry you, your 2 children that you have by me will be taken care of and being dual citizens of a developed country they can turn to a blessing for you and your whole family in future.

Now, let me explain, I still love this lady and my decision was premised on how uncertain I am of what my choice will be in the future as such I wanted to be very open from the beginning, but even at this point, I can not guarantee I will marry her but I could depending on what happens in future.

She's going to give me a feedback later and I am quite positive she will take the offer.

If it were you faced with this option, what would you do ?

Not good enough to be a wife but good enough to have kids for u
Very wrong bro

hustla:




Thunder fire you and your dual citizenship

Typical Nigerian youth, unable to articulate himself properly or comprehend what is being said would rather resort to insult.

How much selfish can you be? You say the ladies are entitled but you are not better than them too. Who gives such conditions and thinks a lady should jump at it in the name of dual citizen?

In my sincere opinion, you are a bad as you generalized the females.

beekind:
I am in my mid 30s, very comfortable and a dual citizen of Nigeria and a first world country.
I decided to relocate back to Nigeria because of starting a family and having my own children.
Since arriving the country and based on my experiences so far, my plans have changed.

I decided to first focus on having children as I found out that the Nigerian society has become almost worse than the west in terms of sexual debauchery.
People have sex for indomine, girls commit abortion without remorse, the worst thing is that no one here uses protection and by the time your average Nigerian girl reaches 30 years old, she has aborted 4 times, slept with almost 100 men and contacted several stds in the process.

What this means is that disciplined men like me are left with these category of girls, worst still is that they come very entitled and empty and can even ruin you with their lifestyle as they are usually impossible to reform.

Solution:
I had to go back to the drawing board and re-evaluated my plan, I have an ex-girlfriend (29 years old) whom I am very close with. She fits the bill in terms of who I want as a life partner but she is a single mother.
So I gave her a choice.

Have 2 children for me, those 2 children will automatically become dual citizens and I might consider marrying you and adopting your child but even if I don't marry you, your 2 children that you have by me will be taken care of and being dual citizens of a developed country they can turn to a blessing for you and your whole family in future.

Now, let me explain, I still love this lady and my decision was premised on how uncertain I am of what my choice will be in the future as such I wanted to be very open from the beginning, but even at this point, I can not guarantee I will marry her but I could depending on what happens in future.

She's going to give me a feedback later and I am quite positive she will take the offer.

If it were you faced with this option, what would you do ?

You lot go around thinking you are smart, if she eventually takes your deal. She will outsmart you... see in 6 years with big tummy wondering how you got here

Baba, you're MADDD !!!

You're exploiting these 9ja girls cuz of the economic and financial hardship they face in 9ja.

You're not normal at all.

Westerhoffe:
What will be your reaction if someone gives your sister such conditions?

Question of the year. Op if u were to be female what will do??

AllenSpencer:
I want to believe the girl is hungry and why you had the effrontery to throw such proposal at her!

She should become a baby mama because of dual citizenship? Does dual citizenship guarantee her love, affection, or marriage. Will same dual citizenship put food on her table in an eventuality?

Location does not “GUARANTEE” that kids will be a blessing. There are records of kids becoming very successful within Nigeria and internationally.

I don’t see a single thing she has to gain. If she was selling the babies to you, that would have been better. She has absolutely nothing to gain. All promises made are not guaranteed. Moreover, the proposal is insulting.

How is the proposer insulting for a single mother? lol.

The OP is very honest and doesnt want to break a heart.

How many marriage last long these days. There is a guarantee for the well-being of the children and their mother will be better for it...

I will take the proposal.

beekind:
I am in my mid 30s, very comfortable and a dual citizen of Nigeria and a first world country.
I decided to relocate back to Nigeria because of starting a family and having my own children.
Since arriving the country and based on my experiences so far, my plans have changed.

I decided to first focus on having children as I found out that the Nigerian society has become almost worse than the west in terms of sexual debauchery.
People have sex for indomine, girls commit abortion without remorse, the worst thing is that no one here uses protection and by the time your average Nigerian girl reaches 30 years old, she has aborted 4 times, slept with almost 100 men and contacted several stds in the process.

What this means is that disciplined men like me are left with these category of girls, worst still is that they come very entitled and empty and can even ruin you with their lifestyle as they are usually impossible to reform.

Solution:
I had to go back to the drawing board and re-evaluated my plan, I have an ex-girlfriend (29 years old) whom I am very close with. She fits the bill in terms of who I want as a life partner but she is a single mother.
So I gave her a choice.

Have 2 children for me, those 2 children will automatically become dual citizens and I might consider marrying you and adopting your child but even if I don't marry you, your 2 children that you have by me will be taken care of and being dual citizens of a developed country they can turn to a blessing for you and your whole family in future.

Now, let me explain, I still love this lady and my decision was premised on how uncertain I am of what my choice will be in the future as such I wanted to be very open from the beginning, but even at this point, I can not guarantee I will marry her but I could depending on what happens in future.

She's going to give me a feedback later and I am quite positive she will take the offer.

If it were you faced with this option, what would you do ?

Bro.. Lemme be plain.
You telling her the advantages is you coming from the point of a desperate man. Trust me if she knows her onions she would turn that offer down and try to manipulate you into getting a better deal.
Look.
When it comes to women you don't have to convince or persuade them into doing anything. If never works. Even if it does it won't end well.
You for tell the barney I like you but I don't have plans of settling down anytime soon. But I want you to be my babymama. I will take care of the kids education and bla bla.
She already knows the kids will have dual citizenship lol.
You sound like someone suffering from low self esteem.
You don't have to tell any one shit. Or try to prove shit to anyone if truly your intentions are pure. Na fake people dey over shalaye. Cos that's all they got.

Now go back and tell that woman you ain't gonna marry her. That you just want a babymama. Then in the future if your options fail you and she proves herself worthy then you can marry her.

If you a Christian go read Matthew 21:29-30.

In other words. It is better to not promise and deliver than promise and fail.

beekind:
I am in my mid 30s, very comfortable and a dual citizen of Nigeria and a first world country.
I decided to relocate back to Nigeria because of starting a family and having my own children.
Since arriving the country and based on my experiences so far, my plans have changed.

I decided to first focus on having children as I found out that the Nigerian society has become almost worse than the west in terms of sexual debauchery.
People have sex for indomine, girls commit abortion without remorse, the worst thing is that no one here uses protection and by the time your average Nigerian girl reaches 30 years old, she has aborted 4 times, slept with almost 100 men and contacted several stds in the process.

What this means is that disciplined men like me are left with these category of girls, worst still is that they come very entitled and empty and can even ruin you with their lifestyle as they are usually impossible to reform.

Solution:
I had to go back to the drawing board and re-evaluated my plan, I have an ex-girlfriend (29 years old) whom I am very close with. She fits the bill in terms of who I want as a life partner but she is a single mother.
So I gave her a choice.

Have 2 children for me, those 2 children will automatically become dual citizens and I might consider marrying you and adopting your child but even if I don't marry you, your 2 children that you have by me will be taken care of and being dual citizens of a developed country they can turn to a blessing for you and your whole family in future.

Now, let me explain, I still love this lady and my decision was premised on how uncertain I am of what my choice will be in the future as such I wanted to be very open from the beginning, but even at this point, I can not guarantee I will marry her but I could depending on what happens in future.

She's going to give me a feedback later and I am quite positive she will take the offer.

If it were you faced with this option, what would you do ?

Interesting conditions.....


Well it's up to her to accept or reject

See what is coming out from the Brain of a 30+ old man.
What kinda stupid deal is that?
You better go and adopt babies.
I can't believe that a man who claimed to have lived abroad is still trying to make babies with a single mother. A single mother! A woman who has been fvcked and mounted by many men!

There are young beautiful promising girls in the society but you chose a single mother? A single mother! The most bitter of all women!

A single mother who would pretend to be anything as long as a man foots her bills. Single mothers are even ashamed of themselves. How can this op want to make a baby with a shameful woman like single mother?

beekind:

You are as ignorant as they come.
If I am a citizen of a country, my children born to me anywhere in the world are also citizens of that country wherever they are born.

Ofcourse I will have to apply for their passports.

And what country is this??

Passport bro lol. Such arrogance.

AllenSpencer:
I want to believe the girl is hungry and why you had the effrontery to throw such proposal at her!

She should become a baby mama because of dual citizenship? Does dual citizenship guarantee her love, affection, or marriage. Will same dual citizenship put food on her table in an eventuality?

Location does not “GUARANTEE” that kids will be a blessing. There are records of kids becoming very successful within Nigeria and internationally.

I don’t see a single thing she has to gain. If she was selling the babies to you, that would have been better. She has absolutely nothing to gain. All promises made are not guaranteed. Moreover, the proposal is insultive.

God bless you 🙏

The dude is so full of himself.

This post is obviously showing the reason why you spent 13 years abroad without getting married, you’re a toxic narcissist and I hope your ex can see through your demeaning proposal.