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Re: JAPA: 10 Sets Of People Who Shouldn't Travel To The UK by ezegold4we: 11:55pm On Oct 22, 2023 |
99% of some people here talking against japa and Life in UK has never seen Lagos talk More of crossing seme boarder, UK this and UK that is all they type with Their ignorant imaginations and assumptions, Let's me remind u ignoramus folk's that job's vacancies waiting to be filled in uk is much More than the people living in UK, UK will Keep receiving immigrants from now till 2030, there's nothing they can do about it, Lot's of Nigerians in UK are doing Better and greater than other nationals, All i see From some folks against people living in UK is envy, jealous And lack of exposure, I will not say much, Keep wallowing in ur legendary ignorance. 3 Likes |
Re: JAPA: 10 Sets Of People Who Shouldn't Travel To The UK by Adolfnigeria: 11:56pm On Oct 22, 2023 |
The likes on this post is stupid. How many Nigerians can afford good medical care ? Not more than 10% of the population. cases of fake doctors giving people medical care ? too many too count. Accident happen to person in the UK. Ambulance go carry am , free of charge. Dem stab person, ambulance go carry am for UK, doctors no go reject am, dem go treat person. NHS go cover am. Your post is actually stupid, and so are the people are liked and shared it. No deep thinking. 3ice9ce: 5 Likes |
Re: JAPA: 10 Sets Of People Who Shouldn't Travel To The UK by Mindlog: 11:58pm On Oct 22, 2023 |
casualobserver: I studied abroad for both B.A and Msc in Clinical Child Psychology, presently live in Cambridge, UK.......so remind me again of what I won't understand. 1 Like |
Re: JAPA: 10 Sets Of People Who Shouldn't Travel To The UK by Vision101(m): 12:00am On Oct 23, 2023 |
@casualobserver 1). Most of them spend all they earn on mortgage, rent, food, transport, car loan, credit card bills etc. 2). 99% of them will never be able to save $95,000 after 20 years. I can tell you for a fact that 90% of Nigerians in the UK don’t have £20,000 in cash to their name. Most who have net worth have their net worth in their homes because they have been paying mortgage and built equity over time. People say your home is an asset…is it? To get any money from the home you either sell it or you take a loan, so really it is just a psychological asset that in all probability you will never enjoy as it is your children that will inherit it. If you sell it you have to buy another home, or you go from homeowner to tenant. if you take a loan on it or remortgage, you have new debt o. So even Nigerians that have equity in their homes are stuck. 90% of Nigerians in the Uk cannot raise £10,000 without a bank loan or credit card. The system gives with one hand and takes it all with the other. 3. Finally someone on level 16 in Nigeria is likely close to or above 50 yrs old. How can someone who has achieved that status in Nigeria go to the uk to become a security guard? What is the sense in that? @me I agree with you completely. My son and his spouse finished their program and live in the UK presently. Exactly 💯 all that you said here is what he usually say to me. Those that are not there will not believe. 1 Like |
Re: JAPA: 10 Sets Of People Who Shouldn't Travel To The UK by casualobserver: 12:03am On Oct 23, 2023 |
Backpedal: Have you lived abroad? Simple question? If no then don’t speak on things you don’t understand, have not experienced and have enough humility to listen to those who have. Like I said I am a British born citizen, I don’t have to be in Nigeria, I was very well paidn the UK. Ivolountarily came back and it was tough returning but I will never go back. If I need a break from Nigeria, I have a passport that can take me to most countries without a visa. But I tell you when I go back to the Uk and see my friends many of whom have homes worth more than £1m, despite the problems in Nigeria I don’t don’t envy them. They all wish they can come back but they have been abroad for so long, they don’t know how to come back. Ma 5 Likes |
Re: JAPA: 10 Sets Of People Who Shouldn't Travel To The UK by Adolfnigeria: 12:04am On Oct 23, 2023 |
The problem is that most nigerians spend all their money all the JAPA process. By the time you spend 15,000pounds on school - how long to make it back. Most UK people always lie to the family in Nigeria, about not having money. Dem no wan carry person load for head.... Food used to be cheap in Nigeria, it is not anymore. Vision101: 1 Like |
Re: JAPA: 10 Sets Of People Who Shouldn't Travel To The UK by Adolfnigeria: 12:14am On Oct 23, 2023 |
Funny.... But don-t be Myopic. They are Nigerians doing professional jobs accounts , IT specialists, Engineers. That are making it. Not every Nigerian is cleaning Nyash. Also there is dignity in labor. This is a culture that is gradually disappearing in Nigeria. Its better to clean Nyash, and be productive, than stay at home. Yes u are right, most of these people will never do such for their parents. 3ice9ce: 1 Like |
Re: JAPA: 10 Sets Of People Who Shouldn't Travel To The UK by Vision101(m): 12:18am On Oct 23, 2023 |
@Adolfnigeria Most UK people always lie to the family in Nigeria, about not having money. Dem no wan carry person load for head.... Food used to be cheap in Nigeria, it is not anymore. @me I paid his bills and that of his spouse for him to go and do £18,000 tuition Msc engineering program. I'm not a needy parent. So he has no need to cover up. Majority of my discussion time with him is centered on career plan and not what he will give me. 3 Likes |
Re: JAPA: 10 Sets Of People Who Shouldn't Travel To The UK by casualobserver: 12:22am On Oct 23, 2023 |
Mindlog: How old are you how long have you worked there? It is not in your youth that these things will set in. It is when you start to see your contemporaries in Nigeria surpass you exponentially. Usually that will start in your 40s. Trust me you will get there. You are a doctor. In Nigeria the state commissioners for health, the minister for health, the medical director of all hospitals will always be a Nigerian. If Nigeria is nominating someone to WHO and other world bodies. It will always be a Nigerian. If the government of Nigeria is setting up a committee to outline national, state policy for health it will consist of Nigerian doctors. If the Nigerian government is nominating a representative to discuss high level health policy with other high level health officials, it will be a Nigerian. In the Uk, 99.9% it won’t be you. It will likely be a Brit or an Indian. So by being in the Uk you already have certain ceilings you will likely not rise above and some positions and exposure that will never come your way, despite the fact that yeah, you will make money and practice your profession….but only to a certain level. 90% of where we get to in life is opportunity. As a Nigerian abroad, you simply reduce your opportunities to get to the very top of your profession. Again you will be professionally and financially comfortable but there is a ceiling. There are doors that project one to the very top that exist in Nigeria that are closed by virtue of the fact that you are abroad. As a doctor you will be comfortable but you very unlikely to be involved in decision making, policy formulation, lasting societal impact working abroad than if you came back to Nigeria because the opportunities will not likely be available to you abroad. Most Nigerians abroad will be will never fulfill their potential or get to the very top because those doors are not open to you and at some point when you’ve achieved the financial comfort and practiced your profession, these things start to matter…especially when you start to see your contemporaries back home, whom you probably overtook in the early stages of your career, or who came back home in time achieving things that you now realize you won’t be able to. At that stage it is not about money or comfort. That is my point. 9 Likes 1 Share |
Re: JAPA: 10 Sets Of People Who Shouldn't Travel To The UK by Adolfnigeria: 12:29am On Oct 23, 2023 |
Chairman, he just spent 18,000pounds on school. Of course he will be low on funds. Vision101: |
Re: JAPA: 10 Sets Of People Who Shouldn't Travel To The UK by Adolfnigeria: 12:34am On Oct 23, 2023 |
Out of 100 people, how many Nigerians get nominated to these positions? 0.000001% , of what use is this stats to most people. Statistically getting nominated to this position is the same as a Nigerian abroad. Abi u know no say Miinister of communications came from the uk. The finance minister, the one that was dropped over NYSC, no be from UK she come. Hannatu Musawa, no be from UK. Minister whey dey do NYSC. Lola Ade, no be from UK.. your comment no make sence. Go and check professional Nigerians aborad, and see if a good number are not excelling in their career. casualobserver: 3 Likes |
Re: JAPA: 10 Sets Of People Who Shouldn't Travel To The UK by Vision101(m): 12:36am On Oct 23, 2023 |
@Adolfnigeria Chairman, he just spent 18,000pounds on school. Of course he will be low on funds. @me You didn't understand me. Read again. I paid his bills inclusive of his tuition from naija. He has graduated and on tier 2 visa now. |
Re: JAPA: 10 Sets Of People Who Shouldn't Travel To The UK by casualobserver: 12:37am On Oct 23, 2023 |
Adolfnigeria: The point is such doors are closed to you abroad…full stop! And those positions will go to those who are probably not as smart as you because of the vacuum you created by being abroad. There is a limit to how far you can go abroad by just doing your job. Nigeria is a member of WHO, Nigeria will nominate people andit won’t be the Nigerian doctor in the Uk. Nigeria is a member of IMF, Nigeria has positions to fill, they won’t be filled by Nigerian economists in the Uk. And so on. not all positions are DG, there are many Nigerians working for the IMF, WHO, World bank, UNICEF etc. there are many positions that countries are required to fill, Nigeria has its quota. Those positions will not go to the Nigerian abroad and your host country will. It put you forward against their indigenes. I listened to the screening of the new EFCC boss and I thought to myself are you telling me this man was Nigeria’s representative at bodies like interpol, sent by the Nigerian government to places like Harvard, our representative of world bodies like international money laundering committees etc amd the man’s English is one kind? Yes He is because people who are probably better qualified japad. There are Nigerian graduates who are policemen in the UK and the US. The UK or Us govt will never send them to Harvard or to represent the Uk or Us as their official representative on matters bordering of international money laundering etc. or elevate them or give them the sort of exposure Nigeria gave this man. 6 Likes |
Re: JAPA: 10 Sets Of People Who Shouldn't Travel To The UK by Jacku: 12:39am On Oct 23, 2023 |
Hmmmm... This is serious sha. Anyway, make I dey listen to my jam on this Oraimo earbuds
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Re: JAPA: 10 Sets Of People Who Shouldn't Travel To The UK by wrongnumber: 12:46am On Oct 23, 2023 |
casualobserver: Your postulation is greatly flawed. Many Nigerians back home are nobody in the context of your explanation and most Nigerians abroad are actually somebody in Nigeria and even abroad because they are treated more like humans abroad than even in Nigeria. STOP writing this crinkum crankums. 6 Likes |
Re: JAPA: 10 Sets Of People Who Shouldn't Travel To The UK by IbeOkehie: 12:47am On Oct 23, 2023 |
purehustle101: Why not solve the ancient Arabic slavery going on right now in Libya? At least the modern UK version is voluntary, they get paid and send billions of pound sterling back to Nigeria to cater to their relatives. https://www.google.com/search?q=slavery+in+libya+nigerians+sold&rlz=1C1CHBF_enUS1037US1037&oq=slavery+in+libya+nigerians+sold&gs_lcrp=EgZjaHJvbWUyBggAEEUYOdIBCDg4MjNqMGo3qAIAsAIA&sourceid=chrome&ie=UTF-8 Good Luck. |
Re: JAPA: 10 Sets Of People Who Shouldn't Travel To The UK by Akolawole(m): 12:47am On Oct 23, 2023 |
mannobi: UK security guard get paid more than a level 16? OK.. How much does the security pay as rent? How much does he pay for other bills? |
Re: JAPA: 10 Sets Of People Who Shouldn't Travel To The UK by godwon01(m): 12:55am On Oct 23, 2023 |
Hezmatosky:If they are not mention by the Op , take another lane . |
Re: JAPA: 10 Sets Of People Who Shouldn't Travel To The UK by casualobserver: 12:56am On Oct 23, 2023 |
wrongnumber: Are you a nobody? Do you not have people you can call, who,care about you, who call you to events, who,know you in your community etc etc? Don’t you have societies you belong to formally or informally? That is what it means to be a somebody. Abroad no one gives a shit about you. You people are taking for granted the things you enjoy in Nigeria. Like they say you do t know the value u til you lose it. 5 Likes 1 Share |
Re: JAPA: 10 Sets Of People Who Shouldn't Travel To The UK by IbeOkehie: 1:05am On Oct 23, 2023 |
Akolawole: UK is similar to USA. My cousin age 27 recently moved to the UK about 6 months ago, he's very happy and not complaining about his factory job. I migrated to USA and started life working illegally as a fast food cook. You can check my comment record for my detailed accounts of my journey in the USA. I paid cash for my university education and built a house in Nigeria before I graduated university. As a fast food cook I lived better than bankers or doctors in Nigeria with 10 years experience. That's fact. I really don't know where you guys get this notion that people abroad can't or don't save money. There's reliable published stats from IMF, Western Union etc detailing the billions of dollars in remittances sent to Nigeria by the diaspora. What other evidence do you need that Nigerians abroad save money from their earnings? We feed the people of Nigeria, build houses for them, send cars and put them through university and all we get in return is scorn rooted in jealousy. casualobserver: Rubbish...Nigeria where an accident victim has to pay CASH before being treated in a hospital? Where is the care? But of course they will attend the funeral to eat rice & stew. In Nigeria can you call police if an armed robber breaks into your home and expect a response? I told the story how my wife's car was stolen about 2 months ago. She called police, they mobilized and found her car the next day, luckily undamaged. It's unlikely to happen in Nigeria. Community...we have a community here in the USA and it's even stronger in the UK because Nigerians have deeper roots there. See this one....invited to party? My family belongs to a Nigerian Church with over 300 members right here in Raleigh NC. There are hometown and tribal clubs like Egbe Omo Oduduwa and Igbo Union and Akwa Ibom Union, they have members. They socialize and look after each other. I have American friends of every kind of background. In fact after my disastrous return from Nigeria, it was my American friends who helped me get on my feet. I lived with a Black American friend for 6 months without paying a dime in rent. When I went back to reapply for my job, I was afraid they wouldn't take me. I expressed that to my boss, a woman from the Phillipines. This is EXACTLY what she said to me, verbatim "Ibe, you have friends here. Why would you think that we won't re-employ you?" I was ashamed of myself that day. I remembered Nigeria where my relatives defrauded me of my money and property, employees stole from me, government officials were demanding bribe every left and right to let me do business. So what on earth are you on about? Nigerians are a special people. For real. Good Luck to you all. 6 Likes |
Re: JAPA: 10 Sets Of People Who Shouldn't Travel To The UK by Adolfnigeria: 1:06am On Oct 23, 2023 |
@casualobserver What is the percentage of Nigerians, qualified in this positions, get these positions ? In Nigeria, for a lot of positions u need to know someone to get in. People no know book dem they dey manage people. You talk as if Nigeria is not the nepotism capital of the world. Sorry in terms of statistics the chance of someone in Nigeria getting to this position is the same as someone abroad. Abi you think your ministers got there on Merit.? For a population of 200M, sorry Nigeria does not provide much to its citizens. casualobserver: 2 Likes |
Re: JAPA: 10 Sets Of People Who Shouldn't Travel To The UK by Adolfnigeria: 1:09am On Oct 23, 2023 |
@Vision101 I understand now. You are a wonderful parent. He sounds like a new graduate, he will get his due with time. WOrk experience is very important in climbing the employment ladder in the UK. The chances of doing this are still better over there. Vision101: |
Re: JAPA: 10 Sets Of People Who Shouldn't Travel To The UK by casualobserver: 1:15am On Oct 23, 2023 |
Adolfnigeria: You have a defeatist mindset. 1 Like 1 Share |
Re: JAPA: 10 Sets Of People Who Shouldn't Travel To The UK by IbeOkehie: 1:19am On Oct 23, 2023 |
Re: JAPA: 10 Sets Of People Who Shouldn't Travel To The UK by Adolfnigeria: 1:25am On Oct 23, 2023 |
@casualobserver. I write to you facts and you write back with jargons. U have the defeatist mindset - with no grasp of statistics no facts.. I earn close to 1 mil in Nigeria, this makes me at least the top 2% of earners, prolly 1%. I know what I am talking about. I bet you don-t even earn clost to this. Nepotism is rampant in Nigeria, most of these positions you are blabbing about you need to know someone to get in. Statistically the odds are low to even get in. How many ministry have you ever seen advertising positions in Nigeria ? Don-t you know positions are being filled everyday with cronies. Face me with facts brother. You writing jargons. I work in the private sector, and the mismanagement of the Nigerian economy is ensuring that this sector is shrinking, salaries are shrinking . Don-t write rubbish please. casualobserver: 5 Likes |
Re: JAPA: 10 Sets Of People Who Shouldn't Travel To The UK by MasterTee007: 1:42am On Oct 23, 2023 |
age 50 and above...got me laughing. You did a good job with this piece...I wrote a similar one... You need a good heart...cant be on medication and be doing japa ...cos your heart will fail quickly You need a good brain... to study, reset, start over and to excel...dumb people dont do well in japa kingdom If you are young, you will have time on your side If you are old, cant reinvent and on medication...just stay back...dont count on your spouse...life is hard. You will hear ...but medical care is better abroad....ask people who are abroad buying medications from Nigeria LOL uche87: |
Re: JAPA: 10 Sets Of People Who Shouldn't Travel To The UK by IbeOkehie: 1:42am On Oct 23, 2023 |
Adolfnigeria: Only 0.5% of Nigerian adults earn over ₦200K per month. That's statistical fact and I know it from real life interactions. If indeed you earn ₦1 million per month, you're probably in the top 0.005%. I would only doubt your claim because you've chosen an anonymous handle. What are the odds that someone that rare would be on Nairaland? Every Nigeria resident on Nairaland claims to be a remote worker for USA companies, earning over $20K per month. Good Luck to Nigerians. 1 Like |
Re: JAPA: 10 Sets Of People Who Shouldn't Travel To The UK by haywhy80: 2:34am On Oct 23, 2023 |
Akin0: @3ice9ce, I hope you read this comment. Please, get your facts right always. |
Re: JAPA: 10 Sets Of People Who Shouldn't Travel To The UK by Lekan239(m): 2:53am On Oct 23, 2023 |
Mindlog:children residential support worker AKA (Nanny)/househelp someone down here in Nigeria will be reading ur post now and using it as a basis for his or her relocation. Thinking the job as a Nanny is readily available Are you being paid by the Govt for being a Nanny, or you are being paid by the host family? A family paying two workers about £4,352 per month means they earn far more than what they are paying you too monthly, and they might be just an averaged UK resident who are not that rich or wealthy. You working under them will be categories as what? (Poor) less privilege. If you are working for the govt, you must be incharge of pretty lot of children, with a shift of 13hrs on the go, isn't that exhaustive. Looking at your expenses allocation, don't you think you are living a boring life? Was there anytime you saw people living better than you are in the UK and you wished you where like them. Working to jobs and can't even afford a car or live a normal life in the UK means you are definitely amongst the low income earners. You know how even in Nigeria, some jobs are left out for the togolese and Niger 🇳🇪 immigrants, because majority of Nigerians have outgrown the job. |
Re: JAPA: 10 Sets Of People Who Shouldn't Travel To The UK by haywhy80: 3:26am On Oct 23, 2023 |
IbeOkehie: May God bless you tremendously for your comment. 1 Like |
Re: JAPA: 10 Sets Of People Who Shouldn't Travel To The UK by Taiw(m): 4:03am On Oct 23, 2023 |
You will appreciate UK more if you have been kidnapped before or robbed at gun point. Small gunshot wound is amputation in Nigeria. Do you know how many people have died just because of hospital negligence in Nigeria? Sicknesses flying everywhere in Nigeria with a shorter lifespan. You can easily be poisoned or be killed in Nigeria by friends or family. I relocated not because of the money but because of the peace of mind. No bullies from police or anyone with a high social status. You get real justice for any crime. Do you know how many innocent people are in kirikiri? If I am to choose between money or peace and security, I will choose the latter over and over. Life should not be about competition but rather quality life. The average white man has no savings because he knows when he is old, the government will take care of him. His pension and other benefits will come when due. I have seen people receive benefits of up to 2,000 pounds. The lowest income earner in the UK can afford to tour round Europe easily. Let's talk about inflation. Before I japa, I already for saw the dollar would exchange for 1000 naira as at when it was 500 naira to a dollar. I put it to you that with this current asiwaju tenure, by the the end of 4years, the USD would exchange for 2500naira. The middle class will become poorer. Lastly, imagine after the struggle to survive and you finally have the British passport, you will know the value then. Most of the wealthy people in naija all have a foreign passport with no travel restrictions 1 Like |
Re: JAPA: 10 Sets Of People Who Shouldn't Travel To The UK by YoungBlackRico(m): 4:17am On Oct 23, 2023 |
Easyincome24:Been long I come across a normal human like this on nairaland. 2 Likes 1 Share |
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