heroshark:


Canada let in the brightest and most talented people through the PR scheme, many of the people that rushed to the UK will not even be eligible to enter Canada either through student route or the PR route you mentioned.

I don't know why this argument always boils down to comparing UK immigration policies with other countries like Canada and Australia. Each country is unique and will do what they think it's best for their country. If you don't like it then move to Canada or Australia (But then again most people can't because they won't meet the criteria)

The truth remains that why the UK had good intentions but people and immigrants alike abused the system which then makes it unsustainable and they have to restrategise.

People selling COS
People having fake marriages to bring in dependents
Student coming to UK without any means of paying tuition
People rushing on Student visa without any intention of studying and abandoning their studies for carework

These are the issues that is causing the problems.

That is not true.

justwise:


The signal was not strong enough in my area, when you want to get mobile broadband check the providers signal strength in your post code area.

You can not renegotiate a fixed contract unless the speed they promised was not delivered, then you can call to ask for changes.

This was the key driver why you got that low-cost £21 + 4months free package. They know their signal strength is weak in your area.

Networks with stronger signals may have higher package!

Thanks for the reply man

Schoolhike:



The question you will be asked is inside the job description under behavioral assessment, how how to explain those behaviors using star approach, have at least two ready made scenario for each behavior from your personal experience

Phenmeson:


Omo I hope people no go cast Ireland relationship with UK.
D rate wey people dey japa go Belfast cari muscle ooo.
E b say PR for Ireland no too hard unlike here.
Ireland population go soon skyrocket reach Lagos state.

Hmmmmmmm word! Our people as usual, people are really moving there.

Peerielass:


If they are doing two jobs at the same time, they will be taxed in the 2nd job. They can reclaim the tax back at the end of the tax year if the combined income is less than the personal allowance.

HMRC issues a coding notice to everyone at the beginning of the tax year and they also send a copy of that coding notice to your employer. The coding notice will show your personal allowance for the year and the employer will use this information to determine how much tax to deduct from your wages. If there are any changes in your circumstance eg if HMRC notices that you have two jobs, or if you have incurred some job expenses etc they will issue a revised coding notice.

Thanks. Does this mean the coding system is dynamic and can be updated anytime or it's at year end? Because I'm asking specifically for someone who might have two jobs, say 27k each, both totalling 54k annually... Would each employer tax @40% or still 20% each? Quite important...

Goke7:


Apart from gdpr issues if Royal Mail close down do you know the thousands that will be out of jobs? Sometimes you just keep a system running to avoid job losses and more woes for the economy.

Also the reason why companies are forcing employees back to the office and stopping remote work. This is to help sectors like real estate, transportation and other auxiliary sectors stay afloat, e get why o!

I totally agree with you on this, and it makes sense. I watched something on BBC about a steel mine planning to convert power source from coal to nuclear/electricity but unions were protesting because about 2000 direct jobs would be lost.

Goke7:


Apart from gdpr issues if Royal Mail close down do you know the thousands that will be out of jobs? Sometimes you just keep a system running to avoid job losses and more woes for the economy.

Also the reason why companies are forcing employees back to the office and stopping remote work. This is to help sectors like real estate, transportation and other auxiliary sectors stay afloat, e get why o!

Not exactly

It's GDPR issues and you could simply unsubscribe from marketing emails or block them.

Some companies are returning to office to boast productivity, collaboration and commitment. Nothing concern them concern other sectors. Even the remote work has sectors that benefit from it too like companies that provide tools and services to empower remote working.

The level of stealing in uk retail store is alarming. I just hope Iceland won’t bankrupt soon.

Peerielass:


Ah ok! I know someone that did the opposite. Moved from Ireland to UK because nothing was happening there. The grass is not always greener on the other side.

I would say the grass is always greener based on one's peculiarities.

People have millions of reasons as to why they move and when asked, they naturally are inclined to give a generic incoherent reason such as nothing is happening here, for money, too much tax etc... and we carry it on from there and spread it in whatever way we interpret to fit into our discuss.

People tend to generally move countries when the pros out weighs the cons thereby fitting well into their long term goals. However, when one juxtaposes that same scenario with someone else's long term goals, it's becomes a case of fitting a triangle into a square (and we blurt out 'the grass is not always greener on the other side')

I would say moving to Australia/NZ fits more into my long term goals than moving to Canada/US. This would be totally different for someone else.

heroshark:


Canada let in the brightest and most talented people through the PR scheme, many of the people that rushed to the UK will not even be eligible to enter Canada either through student route or the PR route you mentioned.

I totally disagree!!!

Goke7:


If na you nko you no go fight? That’s their own subsidy from the government

Make I fry pay tax make dem just sitdon dey collect benefit abi

ehizario2012:
Been enjoying the Hustle/Goke7/Zahra29 economics since. Lol. None of you guys mentioned the boats, all focus was on skilled immigrants/students.
What's happening to the boats?? Are we saying these illegal immigrants are not significant in number??

The boats are still a major focus, just that the public have woken up to the fact that illegal migration numbers are insignificant next to the record numbers of visas being granted by the government.

LionInZion:


They existed but they, especially higher education providers, experienced a serious dip in revenue that government needed to come up with new incentives like post study Visa and student dependents route, targeting 5 major countries, Nigeria, India, etc. There's no denying the fact that many businesses will die a natural death without immigrants.

Lol the government did not target Nigeria and India specifically. There are more favourable visa policies for the Chinese and south Americans for example.

It was certain universities who went after the Nigerian and Indian markets, recognising the huge numbers they could attract by highlighting psw to Japa with their families,and gaining a competitive edge by offering significantly lower fees and discounts (compared to higher ranked, more prestigious universities).

Universities are basically business enterprises. Do you know how much a VC gets paid, even of a lower ranked university? do you know how much commission agents receive for bringing students in? Of course they will complain loudly if their gravy train no longer produces as much gravy.

Once again you don't hear the likes of LSE and Imperial College complaining as loudly. Because they know what they offer (beyond psw) and are able to attract international students from all over who are seeking top quality, internationally recognised qualifications and experience.

iyatrustee:


To work with visa or claim asylum? Hopefully not the latter if not ehn!

💯

Asylum on what grounds...after telling the UK government in your visa application that you have plenty money and/or skills and you're coming to "help" their universities and businesses.

Plus Belfast is very different to Dublin.

ehizario2012:


Thanks. Does this mean the coding system is dynamic and can be updated anytime or it's at year end? Because I'm asking specifically for someone who might have two jobs, say 27k each, both totalling 54k annually... Would each employer tax @40% or still 20% each? Quite important...

It’s dynamic like you said and can be updated at anytime of the year. In the scenario of the person with two jobs earning 27k per annum on each job. Tax charged will depend on a number of factors, did the person complete a P46 form for the second job? If not HMRC will probably place them on an emergency tax code until they are able to ascertain what the person’s correct position is. They could also be placed on a basic rate tax code which means all their earnings from the second job is taxed at 20% without any personal allowance deduction. Once the combined earnings between the two jobs reaches £50,271, then they will start charging 40% on the second job.

heroshark:


Canada let in the brightest and most talented people through the PR scheme, many of the people that rushed to the UK will not even be eligible to enter Canada either through student route or the PR route you mentioned.

I don't know why this argument always boils down to comparing UK immigration policies with other countries like Canada and Australia. Each country is unique and will do what they think it's best for their country. If you don't like it then move to Canada or Australia (But then again most people can't because they won't meet the criteria)

The truth remains that why the UK had good intentions but people and immigrants alike abused the system which then makes it unsustainable and they have to restrategise.

People selling COS
People having fake marriages to bring in dependents
Student coming to UK without any means of paying tuition
People rushing on Student visa without any intention of studying and abandoning their studies for carework

These are the issues that is causing the problems.

💯 💯

Why is the truth so difficult to see/accept sometimes?

Most people, and the government, don't hate immigrants. They are simply saying that they have never had such an influx of people (1.2m in one year!). It's record breaking by a huge margin. Even Labour, who since Blair has been accused of being pro mass immigration, said that the numbers were astonishingly high and unsustainable.

The electorate is blaming the government and the Tory govt who made a promise when seeking election (and on Brexit) to bring migration levels down, is being forced to react and honour its manifesto pledges, else they face extinction as a party.

It's that simple. So all this rhetoric about the gov hates immigrants, they are scapegoating us, they need us more than we need them etc, is unnecessary. They are simply protecting their interests , the same way immigrants are doing what favours them. How many immigrants are happily working in care because they genuinely care about the residents or care profession? How many are just "using" the UK as a springboard to their dream country?

hustla:




LOL

We arent discussing approval rates. Btw, Canada also lets in lots of people via the PR route and it has been on since forever and theyre still looking for ways to make things right for legal immigrants.

Also, for the approval rate UK, do they not collect money? Did they not increase IHS rates too? School fees also went up twice for my school and I heard they have removed discount they usually give and instalmental payments

Imagine boosting an economy with £42bn in 1 year and all you get na complain every 7 days

https://www.theguardian.com/education/2023/may/16/international-students-boosted-uk-economy-by-42bn-in-20212-study

Its their country tbf but mehn ...

They always the first to give million £ in foreign aid to countries but dem no fit provide affordable housing for their people. Uk get packaging no be small.

We swill scale through.

toughest007:


This was the key driver why you got that low-cost £21 + 4months free package. They know their signal strength is weak in your area.

Networks with stronger signals may have higher package!

No its not, i canceled my contract with the provider with weak signal and got a better deal with my previous provider

Zahra29:


Lol the government did not target Nigeria and India specifically. There are more favourable visa policies for the Chinese and south Americans for example.

It was certain universities who went after the Nigerian and Indian markets, recognising the huge numbers they could attract by highlighting psw to Japa with their families,and gaining a competitive edge by offering significantly lower fees and discounts (compared to higher ranked, more prestigious universities).

Universities are basically business enterprises. Do you know how much a VC gets paid, even of a lower ranked university? do you know how much commission agents receive for bringing students in? Of course they will complain loudly if their gravy train no longer produces as much gravy.

Once again you don't hear the likes of LSE and Imperial College complaining as loudly. Because they know what they offer (beyond psw) and are able to attract international students from all over who are seeking top quality, internationally recognised qualifications and experience.

Zahra the former uk high commissioner in Nigeria personally marketed students visas to Nigerians so it was actually a government thing. She did videos to encourage Nigerians to come study in the Uk. This is a fact

Zahra29:


Lol isn't there?

Not dissimilar to every major country/city - Canada, AUS, Portugal, NZ , HK

Uk has the hardest place to get a house in the whole of Europe. This was all over the news 2 months ago.

Zahra29:


Lol the government did not target Nigeria and India specifically. There are more favourable visa policies for the Chinese and south Americans for example.

It was certain universities who went after the Nigerian and Indian markets, recognising the huge numbers they could attract by highlighting psw to Japa with their families,and gaining a competitive edge by offering significantly lower fees and discounts (compared to higher ranked, more prestigious universities).

Universities are basically business enterprises. Do you know how much a VC gets paid, even of a lower ranked university? do you know how much commission agents receive for bringing students in? Of course they will complain loudly if their gravy train no longer produces as much gravy.

Once again you don't hear the likes of LSE and Imperial College complaining as loudly. Because they know what they offer (beyond psw) and are able to attract international students from all over who are seeking top quality, internationally recognised qualifications and experience.

Quoting directly from govt site, 2019 International Education Strategy, updated in 2021.

https://www.gov.uk/government/publications/international-education-strategy-2022-update/international-education-strategy-2022-progress-update#:~:text=The%20International%20Education%20Champion's%20immediate,address%20barriers%20to%20that%20potential.

Action 1 (2021): International Education Champion
The International Education Champion’s immediate priority countries are: India, Indonesia, Saudi Arabia, Vietnam and Nigeria. These priorities reflect where there is significant potential for growth and where the Champion could both open up opportunities and address barriers to that potential.

You see, it wasn't universities - it was the government. The strategy was formed to regain the market share that UK was losing to Canada, Australia, etc. Yes, universities, including LSE, Oxbridge and the likes, are business enterprises and each business has its own market target and will always do whatever it takes to maintain that share.

You know as an individual, it is convenient to want to think those 'lower ranked' universities dont have much to offer, but the govt recognises their contributions to the economy and would always come up with ways to help them stay afloat. Findings have shown that revenues from international students help those schools subsidise the capped British students' tuition.

lavida001:


They always the first to give million £ in foreign aid to countries but dem no fit provide affordable housing for their people. Uk get packaging no be small.

We swill scale through.

God dey

Goke7:


Zahra the former uk high commissioner in Nigeria personally marketed students visas to Nigerians so it was actually a government thing. She did videos to encourage Nigerians to come study in the Uk. This is a fact

Agreed, but that's part of her job. I'm sure other high commissioners and ambassadors were doing the same or more marketing in other countries, just that the japa rate isn't as high.

LionInZion:


You see, it wasn't universities - it was the government. The strategy was formed to regain the market share that UK was losing to Canada, Australia, etc. Yes, universities, including LSE, Oxbridge and the likes, are business enterprises and each business has its own market target and will always do whatever it takes to maintain that share.

You know as an individual, it is convenient to want to think those 'lower ranked' universities dont have much to offer, but the govt recognises their contributions to the economy and would always come up with ways to help them stay afloat. Findings have shown that revenues from international students help those schools subsidise the capped British students' tuition.

Good point, which is why agents from certain universities were more prolific in Nigeria and India because these universities identified them as their target market.

I agree that international fees subsidise home fees, this is true in many countries where international fees are higher. I also agree that the govt tries to support universities to survive and grow. But just as the government is not able to rescue every floundering business, the same will be true of universities that get into trouble.

Besides the govt set a target of 600k international students over 5 years (though they later tried to change the wording). This target was met within 1 year, so one would hope that the universities have been prudent to save and invest during the " ultra boom" years which can't last forever.

justwise:


That is not true.

80% of Nigerian students in my cohort did fake proof of fund and were struggling to pay tuition, most of them are married with kids and average age above 30years old. There is no way many of them will be granted Canadian student visa unless they are on scholarship or going for PhD.

How is it not true ?

PS: I didn't say all, I said many.

heroshark:


Canada let in the brightest and most talented people through the PR scheme, many of the people that rushed to the UK will not even be eligible to enter Canada either through student route or the PR route you mentioned.
.

heroshark:


80% of Nigerian students in my cohort did fake proof of fund and were struggling to pay tuition, most of them are married with kids and average age above 30years old. There is no way many of them will be granted Canadian student visa unless they are on scholarship or going for PhD.

How is it not true ?

PS: I didn't say all, I said many.

You are making two different points here, I agreed with your last point but disagrees with the previous one.


Immigration number to the UK will come down if the embassy bothers to verify bank statements submitted by applicants, Canada does this more often than the UK

Time will tell on what have been saying about Indians

heroshark:


80% of Nigerian students in my cohort did fake proof of fund and were struggling to pay tuition, most of them are married with kids and average age above 30years old. There is no way many of them will be granted Canadian student visa unless they are on scholarship or going for PhD.

How is it not true ?

PS: I didn't say all, I said many.

Canada too has same problem of fake admission letters of acceptance especially in recent times with over 700 students from India affected so this excuse of abuse of system is not particular to the uk or Nigeria.

Don’t divert from the main issues, the uk cannot continue to use abuse of the system as an excuse of hostile immigration policies cos it happens everywhere. Is not time the Uk give more attention to its struggling economy and stop using immigration as an excuse to deceive many of its ignorant citizens?

Or they should just make the base salary for any healthcare position 35k 🙈🏃‍♀️

Zahra29:


They definitely will not scrap PSW in the immediate to short term - that is off the table.

They are looking at other measures instead and as part of this they will raise the salary threshold eligibility for a skilled visa - though not as high as £45k (likely around £33 - £35k) but in any case they will exempt health and social care workers from this salary requirement.

Goke7:


Canada too has same problem of fake admission letters of acceptance especially in recent times with over 700 students from India affected so this excuse of abuse of system is not particular to the uk or Nigeria.

Don’t divert from the main issues, the uk cannot continue to use abuse of the system as an excuse of hostile immigration policies cos it happens everywhere. Is not time the Uk give more attention to its struggling economy and stop using immigration as an excuse to deceive many of its ignorant citizens?

They have to because its a major problem, if they taggle that the immigration figure will go down.

Goke7:


Canada too has same problem of fake admission letters of acceptance especially in recent times with over 700 students from India affected so this excuse of abuse of system is not particular to the uk or Nigeria.

Don’t divert from the main issues, the uk cannot continue to use abuse of the system as an excuse of hostile immigration policies cos it happens everywhere. Is not time the Uk give more attention to its struggling economy and stop using immigration as an excuse to deceive many of its ignorant citizens?

But It's the citizens who are crying out that immigration is too high. The same citizens who voted for Brexit because they wanted to reduce and control immigration. The same citizens who are warning the govt that they will go the way of the Netherlands.

People who voted for brexit because they felt that 200k plus net migration was too high, how do you think they will just accept 700k plus, and from countries that are even more "forrin" than the EU lol
It's not personal, that's just how they are.

Goodenoch:


That said, you can approach this proactively. In the interview for my current role, they didn't ask me but I knew that was a consideration so when it was time for my questions I asked the ones I had and then said I had an additional point to make which was that I knew that they would prefer someone with direct experience in the organisation and although I don't have that, I have A, B, C direct transferable skills because of my experience doing X, Y, Z.

These things would usually come up in the interview but it also helps to make it explicit. It also shows a high degree of self-awareness and understanding of the organisation's needs.

Hmn, does this quiet often as well, when I’m given the opportunity to ask question, wouldn’t ask question at first, will try to touch on necessary information about the job skills that wasn’t asked during interview.