Ance4Liverpool:
Oyahkilome should keep quiet, where is his own wife?

I think you should shut up. Some women are devil

Dtruthspeaker:


He is correct here..They are already in it whether they keep them or ssnd them away.

Di Oyakhilome keep his wife one wife? He sent her away or allowed her to go away so he is not practicing what he preaches

MiddleDimension:


That'a not the issue at hand. The issue is that it is not only wrong, but ungodly to put aside any of your wives because you claim you are now born again.

The bible never said that, christians ahould aeriously ask themselves where they got that idea from that a man should out aside one of his wives if he become born again.

Is it not a sin to do what God has not tod you to do? why christians accept to teach that falsehood is what is beyond me.

If you disagree with Oyakhilome, then put forward your arguement and show that they are superior to his. That is fair enough, right?

what that guy meant is simple, if a Physics professor gets F9 in WAEC no one will enrol in his class to teach physics. So this pastor failed in the sibject of marriage so he has no morl right to speak about the things that concerns marriage..We get to emotional in Nigeria when it comes to men of God, the are humans too and have flesh so they have to be treated like ny other man and not like small god.

Negroid001:


Christians are not meant to divorce except on grounds of infidelity.
So Chris cheated on Anita, hmmmmnnn. I see.

Person wey him wife leave am dey advise another man make e no leave him wife.
Blind dey lead blind.

Your thought process shown here is quite mediocre, too much assumptions.

Negroid001:


You've strayed from the main topic. I said a divorced pastor shouldn't be giving marital advice.

Which means, a friend that doesn't have a million in account can't give advice to his friend with 5million in account on how to do business.

A gynecologist who yet to be married not to talk of bearing child given advise for woman with 5 kids.


Many of financial experts giving expertise to business mongus, they themselves are not millionaire.

Coach who never played professional football once, coaching and giving instructions to professional football players at highest level.

Negroid001:
Pastor Chris was not born again when he sent his own wife away.

Oooh, i see...

Shut up kid , his wife left him and asked for a divorce he didn't send her away and there is no where in the bible that says you should force a woman to stay with you even if he doesn't love you anymore

Negroid001:
Pastor Chris was not born again when he sent his own wife away.

Oooh, i see...

His wife LEFT.

So people still listen to you, after your 5G theory
Like I will always say, it's easier to deceive humans than convince them that they have been deceived

This is also what I subscribe too. People have different interpretations but I agree with this position.

Even the New Testament church recognizes that there are polygamist and issued a clause that they can’t be church leaders. It didn’t say they can’t enter heaven

Ance4Liverpool:
Oyahkilome should keep quiet, where is his own wife?

He should tie her down because he is a pastor?

Ance4Liverpool:
Oyahkilome should keep quiet, where is his own wife?

You are very stupid

Negroid001:


Keep on twisting the bible to quote what isn't there. If you like listen to the advice of the fake prophet telling you not to divorce someone that will ruin you. Wetin do am wey him wife leave am.

You've not given a valid explanation. You're just quoting nonsense.

You are talking rubbish, a man has two wives before becoming a born again Christian he still loves them both, why should he divorce one? How will his wife ruin his life?


Paul the apostle never had a wife but gave counseling and what a Christian marriage should be , Jesus himself never had a wife but gave counseling on marriage, pastor Chris having a failed marriage is in the best position to give counseling on marriage cause he has learned from his failed marriage

Ance4Liverpool:
Oyahkilome should keep quiet, where is his own wife?

His submission is accurate

To the rest I say this (I, not the Lord): If any brother has a wife who is not a believer and she is willing to live with him, he must not divorce her. And if a woman has a husband who is not a believer and he is willing to live with her, she must not divorce him.

For the unbelieving husband has been sanctified through his wife, and the unbelieving wife has been sanctified through her believing husband. Otherwise your children would be unclean, but as it is, they are holy.

But if the unbeliever leaves, let him do so. A believing man or woman is not bound in such circumstances; God has called us to live in peace.
(1 Cor. 7:12-15)

Negroid001:


You too think.
Preachers should lead by example.
Someone with a failed marriage shouldn't be giving marital advice.

"Someone with a failed marriage", are you mocking him, remember the preacher is also human and therefore susceptible to the "body" and other factors, they are not celestial or super beings. Also note that marriage is not a one man thing but rather a 2 person things.....so if you decide to stay and your partner decides not to what happens?......do you force your partner to stay?

Negroid001:


You too think.
Preachers should lead by example.
Someone with a failed marriage shouldn't be giving marital advice.

The scripture is there to guide. No manual supersedes that, not even experience

MiddleDimension:


That'a not the issue at hand. The issue is that it is not only wrong, but ungodly to put aside any of your wives because you claim you are now born again.

The bible never said that, christians ahould aeriously ask themselves where they got that idea from that a man should out aside one of his wives if he become born again.

Is it not a sin to do what God has not tod you to do? why christians accept to teach that falsehood is what is beyond me.

If you disagree with Oyakhilome, then put forward your arguement and show that they are superior to his. That is fair enough, right?

but d bible also said dont marry from an unholy community, just like what solomon started doing

These people should stop distracting us from our hardship with these nonsense preachings.

Negroid001:


... a divorced pastor shouldn't be giving marital advice.

Can you show us where God gave such instruction in the bible?

And may I also use this opportunity to remind you that it was not Pastor Chris that divorced his wife, but it was the wife that was no longer interested in the marriage, and so, filed for divorce for reasons best known to her.

MiddleDimension:


What bunkum!

But I thought you Jehovah's withnesses claim you don't believe whatever is not in the bible.

See sola scriptura vs sola fidei debate.

but here you are, cooking things up yourself, and presenting it like it is the word of the lord.
There is NOWHERE IN THE BIBLE WHERE GOD SAID A MAN WHO HAS MIRE THAN ONE WIFE SHOULD NOT HAVE SEX WITH THE OTHER WIVES. HE NEVER TOLD DAVID, NOR DID HE TELL GIDEON, MOSES, JACOB, OR ANY OF THE CHRISTIANS IN THE NEW TESTAMENT WHO HAD MORE THAN ONE WIFE.

I really thought as a sola scriptura believing christians that witnesses are, they would insist on what is said by god, in the bible, and not try to bring up their views and present it like it is god's position on issues. This is what God frowned at Peter on when he told him in Acts 10 that he should not call unclean what he himself considers clean.



First of all, lets look at monogamies in the bible and see if these ''problems'' exist.

Adam and Eve

Adam and Eve was a mogamous marriage yet, we could find all the things you listed above in dangerously high levels!

Cain and Abel offered sacrifices to god and the bible says Cain became FURIOUS and SCOWLED in ANGER! (gen 4:5). His anger reached such a dangerous level that god had to warn him to be careful. God said: ''because you have done evil, SIN IS CROUCHING AT YOUR DOOR AND IT WANTS TO RULE YOU, BUT YOU MUST OVERCOME IT.''. Because the anger and jealousy was so great, he turned around and did the worst: KILL ABEL! That's case No1.

Case No2: Isaac and Rebecca

This is another monogamy, whose ONLY CHILDREN were TWINS, and as you will see, IF YOU CHOOSE NOT TO CLOSE YOUR EYES, that there was a dangerous level of ENVY, HATRED, JEALOUSY, ATTEMPTED MURDER, CURSE, FAVOURITISM AND THEFT.

Even though Cain and Abel were twins, the bible says: Isaac prefered Essau while Rebecca prefered Jacob (Gen 25:28). That's favouritism which you think polygamy breeds! the favouritism was at such a dangerous level that when Isaac wanted to bless Essau, one of Rebecca's children, she plotted and STOLE the blessings for Jacob. When Essau heard it, he said: ''THIS IS THE SECOND TIME HE IS CHEATING ME'' (Gen 27:36). In vs 41, it says: Essau HATED Jacob and that he will KILL Jacob. In vs 44, Rebecca said to Jacob to stay with his uncle until his brother's ANGER had cooled down.

So, can we say these are due to monogamy?

Now, lets look at polygamy and see if there exists virtue and some of God's loftiests ideals.

Lamech (Gen 4: 18-22)

The bible says Lamech had two wives and he had three sons. The first one, Jabal, was the father of those who did agriculture. The second was the father of musicians, and the third one was the father of those who made crafts.

When the bible says ''they are they fathers of...'' it means they were so accomplished in their chosen careers that when you mention those careers, they are the first ones that will cone to mind. They became famous for these professions due to their hard work, dedication and delligence.

According to sociologists, there is a strong correlation between career success and a very well adjusted home.

Jacob's polygamous home

When the other brothers plotted to kill Joseph, Reuben, Jacob's first born who DOES NOT HAVE THE SAME MOTHER WITH JOSEPH BY THE WAY, planned to save him. Also, take note that his brothers hate him not because he had a different mother, but because ''joseph loved him more than the others''(Gen 37:4). Also, see that all his brothers who hated him, were also children of different mothers. They also loved Benjamin and protected him even though he was born of Rachel, Joseph's mother. Judah said he PLEDGED HIS LIFE FOR BENJAMIN (Gen 44:32).

After Joseph had been sold and Reuben.came back to the well and dis not find him, the bible said he TORE HIS CLOTHES IN SORROW! (Gen 37:29)

What about Gideon, who the bibke says.had many wives yet NOT A SINGLE EVIL WAS RECORDED TO HIS NAME INSTEAD, HE WAS MENTIONED IN HEBREWS 11 AS A MODEL OF FAITH TO THE BORN AGAIN.

There you go; I have answered your question by providing examples of polygamous homes in the bible where the highest virtues exist, those virtues you see in paradise. I have also provided you with evidence from monogamies in the bible where the worst vices of envy, jealousy, hatred, etc, existed in dangerous levels.

@DTruthSeeker @Donnie @Joagbaje. I wonder what you think about this.

Very very powerful, this makes my day.

Following the example of Christ, as Christians, we are not even supposed to get married in the first place. Which will create a problem with the decree of procreation given in genesis. For this reason shall a man leaves his father and his mother and cling unto his wife, and the two shalt become one flesh. This won't be possible in a polygamy.

But, would polygamy profane God's will in this instance? The inspired writer has just given us God's unwavering standard, which does not annul another option we consider as polygamy. And directly or not, you can't start from two wives at a go. The first is the first and true wife, the next is your choice.

Then those who are coming into Christianity did have their lives before conversion, do they have to create a new problem for themselves in their home due to their new religion? That's what Paul addressed.

The Anglican communion, which bud forth from the Roman Catholic, favours monogamy. This also spread to us in Africa as their proselytes.

Christ gave the injunction that true love is to be between a man and his wife, and men should eschew adultery. He couldn't have said God intended polygamy from the original design. However, polygamy is not God's problem. Monogamy is the ideal marriage, if you can take the cup of polygamy, its left to you.

Sabi Pastor

Ance4Liverpool:
Oyahkilome should keep quiet, where is his own wife?

Na goat u b because u lack wisedom

This is a spurious doctrine. One wife one husband. If someone married more than one wife before having salvation, he will make restitution. The first wife ,if the marriage is right,is the wife . He will allow the other to go while taking responsibility for the children.

May Almighty God help us.

Oyakilome no get wife, he no masturbate.

How him dey cope?

That means those that said lack of ejaculation can cause prostate cancer are wrong .

What is going on?

No.
He is not correct.
I stand to be corrected anyways.

There is something called "Restitution" which means returning something that doesn't belong to you.
The Bible is not in support of polygamy..
What this means is that, as soon as one decides to get born again, such a person must be ready to let go of the old ways that aren't Christ-like. Letting go of the second wife in this case is part of it.

Dtruthspeaker:


He is correct here..They are already in it whether they keep them or ssnd them away.

Interesting!!!! So only those who are not born again can chase their wives away.











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Negroid001:
Pastor Chris was not born again when he sent his own wife away.

Oooh, i see...

u have very low IQ

The 3rd class he has is even affecting his interpretation of the Bible.
Very dumb fellow.

What of his 5G nonsense talk sef.

veektor01:
No.
He is not correct.
I stand to be corrected anyways.

There is something called "Restitution" which means returning something that doesn't belong to you.
The Bible is not in support of polygamy..
What this means is that, as soon as one decides to get born again, such a person must be ready to let go of the old ways that aren't Christ-like. Letting go of the second wife in this case is part of it.

Restitution means a wrong doing of hurt to confess,so Mr long typing does it suit the context of 2 wives? don't try to be too smart only to end up dull

FireUpNow:


Di Oyakhilome keep his wife one wife? He sent her away or allowed her to go away so he is not practicing what he preaches

The Bible say u can divorce but u must not marry again,that's what the Bible say.So how is he practicing something different?

Yeah very interesting discussion that has been around since Christianity made its appearance here.

Pastor Chris gave a good answer

Ance4Liverpool:
Oyahkilome should keep quiet, where is his own wife?

WHat he is saying is the truth. It takes courage for somone to say something like this