I didn't want Randy gone after the 2022 Nations Cup. I understood what he was doing and what happened. It reminded me of Westerhoff (who lost his first match, a World Cup qualifier in which we only needed a draw and then he came third at Senegal 92 before achieving success in 1994).

dkay51:


Lmaaaooo

Context matters, they are playing the last 10mins of a do or die match which would decide if they qualify for a tournament they haven't been to in the last 16years, and they have the advantage but you want them to be playing tiki taka with that amount of pressure where they're more likely to make mistakes in routine stuff??

Nah, you're just hating at this point!

Tikitaka? I'm not a fan of tikitaka bro. People who visit the super eagles thread can attest to this.

It is a basic knowledge that the longer your opponent holds the ball, the higher their chance of 'hurting' you. It was the duty of Randy to make sure there is someone at the end of those long balls. You hoof the ball blindly and 3 seconds later, South Africa are attacking your box. A better team could have punished us for that childish mistake. No be today I don dey watch team park the bus. Our own get K-leg.

mostob:
Lol.. emotion? Nobody is using emotion here. BTW all what you wrote here are just mere explanations borne out of emotional context.

I already said it, the fear of NFF bringing one local coach to come and disrupt the team is why most fans are putting up with Randy. HE HAS DONE NOTHING EXCEPTIONAL. I have no qualms with the low standard you and others have set for him but the recent matches we have played didn't show any improvement from 2 years ago. I mean you're already bringing out our bad records from previous Olympics to give the man a soft landing in case he fumbled in the Olympic.

People who are contented with mediocrity are the one praising this man. I'm not even asking for anything much. Let this team play like a proper football team. We're you all not complaining during that South Africa matches? Now that I am being blunt, you're saying I'm emotional. SMH

Now I know what the problem here is. English is the issue cause you seem not to know the meaning of the words you used.

You've used words like "we should be doing better" and "underperforming". Also quoting you verbatim you said "Super Falcons is a big brand in Africa and it is a shame to see the current state of the team.". All of the aforementioned in English language means or suggest it's in comparison to something. And from the term "current state" it means there was a "past state".

So what did I do, I pulled up the historical record of the Super Falcons devoid of sentiments or emotions and asked that you show me when the Super Falcons have had a better record in comparison to what Randy has achieved and you couldn't come up with anything. You said we were condoning mediocrity, so from the records shown highlight to us when the Super Falcons were exceptional.

Instead of you to respond to the factual data presented, you pivot and ignore the entire conversation. Like Kibbs said, you're just hating at this point and no need responding as your argument is becoming illogical.

naptu2:
I didn't want Randy gone after the 2022 Nations Cup. I understood what he was doing and what happened. It reminded me of Westerhoff (who lost his first match, a World Cup qualifier in which we only needed a draw and then he came third at Senegal 92 before achieving success in 1994).

The problem I have with Randy and most white coaches is that while they focus on our defence, they bring almost next to nothing to the attack. Local coaches on the other hand are the extreme of the opposite end. Local coaches give you the Nigerian style of football (flare/wing play/ attack/ dribbling) but against tactical teams they lose woefully due to awful defence.
We need a balance somewhere.

I hope Linda don’t get carried away with the invite to the SuperFalcons, She should work her way into the U20 team. Infact get the First Choice position in both Club and U20 so that we can be sure her invite to the SuperFalcons isn’t just to add numbers.!

dkay51:

Nnadozie was in goal when we chop 8 against France, I agree she has improved from that time but still don't underrate the work Randy has done in defense.

Its his social media account, he has the right to block whoever he wants, the same way journalists call him out, he can choose to call out those he thinks judges him unfairly when has the spotlight.

I don't agree with that example because that was our first friendly in almost 2 year. Plus, when we played France at the world cup we only lost by a penalty goal to nil.

I felt our defense was fine under that Swedish coach but the issue was we couldn't do anything else.

GeneralDae:

The problem I have with Randy and most white coaches is that while they focus on our defence, they bring almost next to nothing to the attack. Local coaches on the other hand are the extreme of the opposite end. Local coaches give you the Nigerian style of football (flare/wing play/ attack/ dribbling) but against tactical teams they lose woefully due to awful defence.
We need a balance somewhere.

I think the problem has been time. No foreign coach has spent significant time with the Falcons bar Waldrum. Also, you aren't factually correct with your first assertion cause the records show Thomas Denerbby (who has been the only foreign coach in the last 2 decades) also had bad defensive record. He probably could have done better had he stayed.

BascoVanVeli:


I don't agree with that example because that was our first friendly in almost 2 year. Plus, when we played France at the world cup we only lost by a penalty goal to nil.

I felt our defense was fine under that Swedish coach but the issue was we couldn't do anything else.

Baba, we conceded 7 goals in 3 different games at that word cup o. How does that make for good defence?

GeneralDae:

The problem I have with Randy and most white coaches is that while they focus on our defence, they bring almost next to nothing to the attack. Local coaches on the other hand are the extreme of the opposite end. Local coaches give you the Nigerian style of football (flare/wing play/ attack/ dribbling) but against tactical teams they lose woefully due to awful defence.
We need a balance somewhere.

lovewins:


I think the problem has been time. No foreign coach has spent significant time with the Falcons bar Waldrum. Also, you aren't factually correct with your first assertion cause the records show Thomas Denerbby (who has been the only foreign coach in the last 2 decades) also had bad defensive record. He probably could have done better had he stayed.

The only person that I know that has done it successfully is Westerhof. That's because he took the time to understand our culture and how to blend it with European football.

He said that he watched children playing street football and he even bought a ball from them. He regularly watched Nigerian league matches, not just to discover talents, but also to understand the way we play. That's why he was called the Dutch-gerian, because he tried to understand our culture.

But it takes time and some difficult situations. That's why I liked two things that Randy said in his press conference in South Africa.

He said that they didn't have much time together previously, but the World Cup gave them the opportunity to have that time. The girls were able to understand what he wanted them to do during the camp ahead of the World Cup and that marked the turning point.

He also said that the defence and midfield are now OK and that they'll have to work on the attack.

This is one of the reasons that I want him to have the time to properly imput his ideas into the girls, learn our own way of thinking, discover new players for the team and also develop Nigerian players through his US university system.

lovewins:


I think the problem has been time. No foreign coach has spent significant time with the Falcons bar Waldrum. Also, you aren't factually correct with your first assertion cause the records show Thomas Denerbby (who has been the only foreign coach in the last 2 decades) also had bad defensive record. He probably could have done better had he stayed.

I agree. Looking back now, I still think we were unfair to Odegbami and should have given her more time. Her falcons team was more of a delight to watch than that of Dennerby. This may also be because the likes of Ordega, Okobi, Oshoala, Ikidi, Oparanozie were still at their prime then.

lovewins:


Now I know what the problem here is. English is the issue cause you seem not to know the meaning of the words you used.

You've used words like "we should be doing better" and "underperforming". Also quoting you verbatim you said "Super Falcons is a big brand in Africa and it is a shame to see the current state of the team.". All of the aforementioned in English language means or suggest it's in comparison to something. And from the term "current state" it means there was a "past state".

So what did I do, I pulled up the historical record of the Super Falcons devoid of sentiments or emotions and asked that you show me when the Super Falcons have had a better record in comparison to what Randy has achieved and you couldn't come up with anything. You said we were condoning mediocrity, so from the records shown highlight to us when the Super Falcons were exceptional.

Instead of you to respond to the factual data presented, you pivot and ignore the entire conversation. Like Kibbs said, you're just hating at this point and no need responding as your argument is becoming illogical.

Oh boy! Lovewin...I already told you your proofs are not substantial. You're one of the intelligent folks here so I don't know why you're not seeing the point.

There are some metrics in football that you can't attribute to a coach alone. I stand to be corrected though because we're all learning everyday. For instance,
1. Arsenal male team have the best defensive record in EPL this season. Guess who are getting the praise, the CB duos. That's why the defensive record you brought is not substantial. Nnadozie has bailed us out many times, would you attribute that to Randy.

2. Madrid have been scoring freely this season but the names on everyone's lips are Jude, Vinicus and others. Nowhere is Ancelotti mentioned.

You see why you can't justify Randy's efforts with the stats you brought because you can't eliminate the impact of individual brilliance from the stats.

Now, tell me how good were the girls in that double tie against South Africa (the matches that triggered the whole argument). Can you confidently say we would have bagged the Olympic ticket had it been we were facing a more decent side? After 3 years and the players he had, look at what they gave us as performance. All I wanted is a purposeful football, a coordinated team structure and a performance that reflects the Calibre of players we parade.

You're all here standing behind Randy's insufficiency while I'm looking at the future prospect of competing with the best legs in some month's time. It is not emotion. My criticism no dey add Kobo to my account.

GeneralDae:

The problem I have with Randy and most white coaches is that while they focus on our defence, they bring almost next to nothing to the attack. Local coaches on the other hand are the extreme of the opposite end. Local coaches give you the Nigerian style of football (flare/wing play/ attack/ dribbling) but against tactical teams they lose woefully due to awful defence.
We need a balance somewhere.

You made a nice point bro. I think Rohr had the same issue. If only the 'local coaches' are humble enough to work with Randy.

GeneralDae:

I agree. Looking back now, I still think we were unfair to Odegbami and should have given her more time. Her falcons team was more of a delight to watch than that of Dennerby. This may also be because the likes of Ordega, Okobi, Oshoala, Ikidi, Oparanozie were still at their prime then.

Yeah yeah we would have given her more time as she played better football defensively and Attacking Wise, even though in the final against Cameroon she was very very Conserved but still grinded out a win when it matters..! She’s good. Arguably my no.1 Pick going for an Ex-international to handle the SuperFalcons and she’s more of a developmental Coach.! Again as you have said those Players mentioned where in their hot period even though some where already getting older.. Ebi, Chikwelu, Ijeoma Obi etc.

Her Players selection where also on point, Substitutions where top notch..! I think her Coaching Style was the last time the SuperFalcons played real Pace and Power Football.. Ordega/Oshoala/Okobi/Chikwelu Infact everyone of the Players where running till 90minutes non stop.

This player might be the next superstar for🇳🇬, She will Certainly be the Most skillful attacking midfielder ever produced in Africa as far as the Women’s Game is concerned.. She has the abilities of Marta of 🇧🇷, A top dribbler and goal scoring midfielder

Let’s See how Randy Waldrum Unveils her at Pittsburgh. Remember the name 👉🏿 Celine Ottah


http://www.hudl.com/v/2LSkrS

Eni Aluko became part of a new Multi club Ownership group promising to invest 💰 100Million (💷78.6M) in Women's Football Clubs across Europe 🌍(Spain and Italy ), Argentina and Uruguay..

Deltamani:


Yeah yeah we would have given her more time as she played better football defensively and Attacking Wise, even though in the final against Cameroon she was very very Conserved but still grinded out a win when it matters..! She’s good. Arguably my no.1 Pick going for an Ex-international to handle the SuperFalcons and she’s more of a developmental Coach.! Again as you have said those Players mentioned where in their hot period even though some where already getting older.. Ebi, Chikwelu, Ijeoma Obi etc.

Her Players selection where also on point, Substitutions where top notch..! I think her Coaching Style was the last time the SuperFalcons played real Pace and Power Football.. Ordega/Oshoala/Okobi/Chikwelu Infact everyone of the Players where running till 90minutes non stop.

Even the right back Ugo or something of Rivers Angels then was a delight to watch.

GeneralDae:

Even the right back Ugo or something of Rivers Angels then was a delight to watch.

Yoh… I wonder how I forget Ugo Njoku (A.K.A Magic 15)

I don’t even understand how she even had a short Career such a robust talent who grew from U17 Trinidad &Tobago, U20 Japan 2012 & Canada 2014 and to SuperFalcons 2014–2017.. She would have been our All time best Right Back..

Deltamani:
This player might be the next superstar for🇳🇬, She will Certainly be the Most skillful attacking midfielder ever produced in Africa as far as the Women’s Game is concerned.. She has the abilities of Marta of 🇧🇷, A top dribbler and goal scoring midfielder

Let’s See how Randy Waldrum Unveils her at Pittsburgh. Remember the name 👉🏿 Celine Ottah


http://www.hudl.com/v/2LSkrS

It was obvious that her Skill level was way beyond the NJCCA level.. Playing for a Semi-Pro team in the USL also shows that she’s a great talent. Randy better do the needful just as she has done with Deborah Abiodun..

http://www.hudl.com/v/2MiTv0

http://www.hudl.com/v/2MiJw1

http://www.hudl.com/v/2MiL2C

The way she uses her skills are way better than Esther Sunday whose end product is trash! Her kind of player will cause a lot of problems for opponents, It will take the high level of Defensive Skilled Players like Ayinde, Abiodun, Ucheibe, Oberdorf, Walsh, Patri, Henry etc to Mark her.!!

Deltamani:


Yoh… I wonder how I forget Ugo Njoku (A.K.A Magic 15)

I don’t even understand how she even had a short Career such a robust talent who grew from U17 Trinidad &Tobago, U20 Japan 2012 & Canada 2014 and to SuperFalcons 2014–2017.. She would have been our All time best Right Back..

How her career turned out to be is just so.... A very good RB then.

Loveth Ayila is another player that was exceptional in that U20 squad. Infact, I rated her ahead of Ayinde in that tourney. Maybe that Oshoala's controversial goal took a toll on her after that tourney.

mostob:
How her career turned out to be is just so.... A very good RB then.

Loveth Ayila is another player that was exceptional in that U20 squad. Infact, I rated her ahead of Ayinde in that tourney. Maybe that Oshoala's controversial goal took a toll on her after that tourney.

I no fit forget that thing wha she do for the finals.. She’s already pursuing a Career in Coaching the last time i saw something relating to her! Indeed she was one of the top performer at the 2014 U20 World Cup!

Many of that set don Either Quit Football or Married..

1. Sandra Chichi— GK (Married)
2. Sarah Nnodim— CB (Married & Own an Academy/Club in Jos)
3. Ugo Njoku— RB
4. Osarenoma Igbinovia— CDM (2kids already Girls)
5. Loveth Ayila— W (Coaching)
6. Courtney Dike— F (US Born)
7. Patience Okaeme— F (Now Stays in Sweden)
8. Gladys Abasi— CB
9. Victoria Aidelomon—CB (2kids already Boy&Girl)

Deltamani:


I no fit forget that thing wha she do for the finals.. She’s already pursuing a Career in Coaching the last time i saw something relating to her! Indeed she was one of the top performer at the 2014 U20 World Cup!

Many of that set don Either Quit Football or Married..

Sandra Chichi— GK
Sarah Nnodim— CB
Ugo Njoku— RB
Osarenoma Igbinovia— CDM
Loveth Ayila— W
Courtney Dike— F
Patience Okaeme— F

Indeed you remember. That goal was painful chai... She had no business touching that ball. Some speculations were flying then that the ball already crossed the line before she touched it. We would have got one over Germany because they're our bogey team. Ebere Orji's set lost the cup to them too.

This Girl is fire💥

Ambipedal. Excellent finisher. Vertically driven in her ball approach. Curling shot technique is quite impressive. A menace indeed.

Deltamani:
This player might be the next superstar for🇳🇬, She will Certainly be the Most skillful attacking midfielder ever produced in Africa as far as the Women’s Game is concerned.. She has the abilities of Marta of 🇧🇷, A top dribbler and goal scoring midfielder

Let’s See how Randy Waldrum Unveils her at Pittsburgh. Remember the name 👉🏿 Celine Ottah


http://www.hudl.com/v/2LSkrS

TheSuperNerd:
This Girl is fire💥

Ambipedal. Excellent finisher. Vertically driven in her ball approach. Curling shot technique is quite impressive. A menace indeed.

It won’t take much time before Randy brings her into the SuperFalcons cause there’s no way she would be Playing for her at Pitts and not make his Roster at National Team Level, I believe after the Olympics she should start getting Call Up if Randy is still Coach.

TheSuperNerd:
This Girl is fire💥

Ambipedal. Excellent finisher. Vertically driven in her ball approach. Curling shot technique is quite impressive. A menace indeed.

Such a Complete Player just need Proper Coaching which I believe Randy will give her as he’s doing with Abiodun…

Chemistry with Abiodun in Midfield at Pitts will also serve as an edge for them, I remember very well when Ayinde and Okobi where playing together in Sweden their Understanding of each other was so so good..!!

I’m just so happy Randy brought her from NJCCA real quick, even in one of the highlights I heard the commentator saying she has numerous offers from NCAA teams..!

lovewins:


Baba, we conceded 7 goals in 3 different games at that word cup o. How does that make for good defence?

3 goals vs Norway and 3 goals vs Germany. If u watched those matches u would know that it wasn't mainly about defense.

We also had 4 straight clean sheets at the WAFCON before that

BascoVanVeli:


3 goals vs Norway and 3 goals vs Germany. If u watched those matches u would know that it wasn't mainly about defense.

We also had 4 straight clean sheets at the WAFCON before that

We also conceded 1 against France which makes for 7.

As for AFCON, I stand corrected but I think we historically have a lot of clean sheets there. I however get your point.

That ball was definitely goal-bound and in without Ayila's touch. Her crave for personal glory denied us a title.

Please why una dey resurrect that moment from 2014?? Abeg abeg.

mostob:
Indeed you remember. That goal was painful chai... She had no business touching that ball. Some speculations were flying then that the ball already crossed the line before she touched it. We would have got one over Germany because they're our bogey team. Ebere Orji's set lost the cup to them too.

lovewins:


We also conceded 1 against France which makes for 7.

As for AFCON, I stand corrected but I think we historically have a lot of clean sheets there. I however get your point.

I was talking about France in the post u quoted first.

TheSuperNerd:
That ball was definitely goal-bound and in without Ayila's touch. Her crave for personal glory denied us a title.

Please why una dey resurrect that moment from 2014?? Abeg abeg.

She waited till it crossed the line. She wasn't looking for personal Glory, just celebrating a goal.

I looked at the clip just moments ago now and I see that the ball did cross the line. I haven't looked at that moment again since 2014 until tonight.

But seeing it now again, I ask myself if I had been mad at Ayila wrongly or was the flag really raised because of her or the player who headed in Oshoala's rebounded effort off the GK?

BascoVanVeli:


She waited till it crossed the line. She wasn't looking for personal Glory, just celebrating a goal.

TheSuperNerd:
I looked at the clip just moments ago now and I see that the ball did cross the line. I haven't looked at that moment again since 2014 until tonight.

But seeing it now again, I ask myself if I had been mad at Ayila wrongly or was the flag really raised because of her or the player who headed in Oshoala's rebounded effort off the GK?

the flag went up after Loveth kicked the ball but the player who got the rebound looked onside to me. I still dey vex till today

Honestly, remembering that one moment from the game gives me PTSD. And I always blamed Ayila loveth while refusing to rewatch that moment until tonight. Na wa.

BascoVanVeli:


the flag went up after Loveth kicked the ball but the player who got the rebound looked onside to me. I still dey vex till today