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Re: Benin Traditional Council Suspends Five Chiefs For Pledging Alliance To Ooni by Shattuck(m): 3:40pm On Apr 28 |
HBB1:what I am saying is this there is no way ife could have given Benin a king, when ife never had a real monarchy, in ancient ife kings were being over thrown like military govt style, individuals from different households at one time or the other ruled ife, oranmiyan was a Benin prince who at one time ruled ife, and oranmiyan was the father of eweka, even your Yoruba history documents this fact too now tell me is eweka a Yoruba name, if oranmiyan was a Yoruba man why did he name his son a Benin name, and how could an ife who never had a monarchy and ife where power was being seized by individuals like in the military govt had given Benin a monarchy? Go read ife history power was being seized by anyone powerful enough to seize it. 2 Likes 1 Share |
Re: Benin Traditional Council Suspends Five Chiefs For Pledging Alliance To Ooni by AutomaticMotors: 3:44pm On Apr 28 |
Shattuck: This wotowoto you are giving Dem go make their tears full bucket oo 1 Like 1 Share |
Re: Benin Traditional Council Suspends Five Chiefs For Pledging Alliance To Ooni by FxMasterz: 3:44pm On Apr 28 |
Danand1: The Ooni was not a king but an ifa priest. The original king of ife went on a war against popular advice. Before he left he installed the priest of ife as administrattor in his absence. The king was stopped by the river Niger on his war expedition. Due to shame, he couldn't return back to ife. He turned aside and founded Oyo ilé which now metamorphosed into Oyo Empire. The ife king never returned to ife till he died but he ruled as Alaafin of Oyo in his self exile. Meanwhile the ife priest who was installed as administrator became king and was referred to as Ooni of ife. The Ooni dresses like an ifa priest till today because he is indeed an ifa priest. This also explains why the Ooni gives up his stool to the king of Benin on a visitation. The king of Benin is Omo n' ọba which means Omo Oba (Prince) in Yoruba land. With the understanding that the Oba of Benin is an ife Prince, the Ifa Priest must honour the prince whenever he visits. 1 Like |
Re: Benin Traditional Council Suspends Five Chiefs For Pledging Alliance To Ooni by Danand1: 3:51pm On Apr 28 |
Olu317:😀😀, now I know , you don't know Yoruba history |
Re: Benin Traditional Council Suspends Five Chiefs For Pledging Alliance To Ooni by DOptical: 3:52pm On Apr 28 |
Oba of bini has no right to even suspend them because everyone has a right to talk about his history to begin with. Abi na craze dey worry am? Like, who does that? Na craze dey worry am? He's actually scared because these chiefs are now talking about their Yoruba history when he thought he was the only one who's a Yoruba thus was constantly saying gibberish while expecting the Yoruba to constantly overlook his constant gibberish since he's a Yoruba. Lol. That was how he wanted to be saying gibberish about the Itsekiri/Jekri. Anyway, he now knows that he's not the only one who's a Yoruba descendant. The ogiso of igodomido (a Yoruba name) were also Yoruba descendants and can even take back their throne from him. Do anyhow and see any how! 1 Like |
Re: Benin Traditional Council Suspends Five Chiefs For Pledging Alliance To Ooni by HBB1(m): 3:54pm On Apr 28 |
Shattuck: You are not making sense. Who says Ife didn't have a Mornachy? You keep shifting goal posts. Who were the kings that were being overthrown? Name them. Ornamiyan had a child in Benin, called Owomika ( my hand can control it) who was also known as Eweka. He left him there and went on to found other kingdoms. As I said earlier, you are not making sense 1 Like |
Re: Benin Traditional Council Suspends Five Chiefs For Pledging Alliance To Ooni by Raf4: 3:58pm On Apr 28 |
Shattuck: Asking what does Oba mean in Yoruba is akin to asking what does king mean in English. Anyway, Oba in Yoruba means king and their titles are as follows: Ile-Ife - Ooni Oyo - Alaafin Ijebu - Awujale Ibadan - Olubadan Eko - Eleko Bini - Omo N'Oba Etc. 1 Like |
Re: Benin Traditional Council Suspends Five Chiefs For Pledging Alliance To Ooni by DOptical: 4:02pm On Apr 28 |
Shattuck: Even a fool knows the word Oba is Yoruba! You dey craze? Let me even indulge your stupidity, you don't know about Obatala? 2 Likes |
Re: Benin Traditional Council Suspends Five Chiefs For Pledging Alliance To Ooni by Danand1: 4:05pm On Apr 28 |
FxMasterz:You better don't let this get to ooni of ife's palace😀😀 1 Like |
Re: Benin Traditional Council Suspends Five Chiefs For Pledging Alliance To Ooni by Olu317(m): 4:10pm On Apr 28 |
Danand1:Yorubas of Ileife colonise Igodomigodo tradtitionally,linguistically, metallurgically etc to civilize your Idu descendants 😀😀😀 1) Traditionallly,in such a way, that orunmila , olokun,ogun, etc are venerated and learned by Igodomigodo descendants 2) Linguistically that Idu Igodomigodo language adopted Yoruba loanwords into her diction tha such connection has become known as A learner Igodomigodo people's language and Yoruba teacher's language 3) Metalurgically acceptance of the knowledge of Ogu/Ogún (god of iron,hunting etc) , whom the knowledge is enshrined in ifaodu as the source cum god of iron. 2 Likes |
Re: Benin Traditional Council Suspends Five Chiefs For Pledging Alliance To Ooni by santaclaws: 4:10pm On Apr 28 |
Danand1: Ok, we are all Benin. Satisfied? 🥴 |
Re: Benin Traditional Council Suspends Five Chiefs For Pledging Alliance To Ooni by FxMasterz: 4:10pm On Apr 28 |
Danand1: He knows it for real. This is true history. Not bear parlour gist. |
Re: Benin Traditional Council Suspends Five Chiefs For Pledging Alliance To Ooni by Danand1: 4:15pm On Apr 28 |
DOptical:Ōbà-tálá, not ōbā-tálá. That there is a word Oba in one tribe does not mean it can't be in another |
Re: Benin Traditional Council Suspends Five Chiefs For Pledging Alliance To Ooni by Shattuck(m): 4:16pm On Apr 28 |
HBB1:go and read the history of ife kings were being over thrown by people within and outside the royal family, even strangers at some point ruled ile ife, when kings were being overthrown from ile ife military style Benin already had a kingdom with a direct line of succession now how did an ife who didn't have a stable govt or line of succession now give Benin a king, who already had a stable and organized civilization and govt 1 Like 1 Share |
Re: Benin Traditional Council Suspends Five Chiefs For Pledging Alliance To Ooni by HBB1(m): 4:24pm On Apr 28 |
Shattuck: Anybody can pull out stories from his arse! Show proof! If you cannot, them keep quiet! Also don't ignore what I said earlier. What other words are similar to Oba and reflect same meaning? I have use Olopa and Olokada as examples in Yoruba. |
Re: Benin Traditional Council Suspends Five Chiefs For Pledging Alliance To Ooni by Olu317(m): 4:25pm On Apr 28 |
Shattuck:Who is the stranger o ? |
Re: Benin Traditional Council Suspends Five Chiefs For Pledging Alliance To Ooni by DOptical: 4:29pm On Apr 28 |
FxMasterz: Dundee, Have you seen the letter of the Oba of Bini to Ife where he called him Oghene, father? If you had a brain, you would know Obatala and Oduduwa were both the king of Ife. And no, the Ooni dresses like Obatala which means purity & enlightenment. Ife is the home of the Yoruba hence has no empire because it controls both the east and west of the Yoruba. The great great grandchild of Oduduwa, Oranmiyan left for igodomido (a Yoruba named camp) to put order in the place while civilizing it. He left his child as the king of Bini and returned to Ife to become the king. He later left another of his child in Ife and Left for Oyo where he also became the king. Thus Oranmiyan was the link. His son at the central of Ife controls the affair of the central, East and West of the Yoruba while he was under no empire. However the West was controlled by another Oranmiyan's son in Oyo who controls the affair of the West which was under the affair of the Oyo empire. While the East of Yoruba was controlled by another of Oranmiyan's son in Bini. Hence why the Oba of Bini back then was allowed to act anyhow he liked in every Yoruba land. So, Oranmiyan was the link however Ife was the central head of everything and was under no empire hence why he was called Oghene, the father by Oba of Bini. He's the head of everything. 2 Likes |
Re: Benin Traditional Council Suspends Five Chiefs For Pledging Alliance To Ooni by DOptical: 4:30pm On Apr 28 |
Danand1: Ode, Obatala means king of light! You dey craze? 2 Likes |
Re: Benin Traditional Council Suspends Five Chiefs For Pledging Alliance To Ooni by y3mi(m): 4:33pm On Apr 28 |
DeLaRue:What they heck is Yoruboid? Arent they things the Binis and Yorubas share in common, they both use the same divination system of Ifa (Orunmilla) and revere Ogun, so why these needless schism! If British made expired Nigeria disintegrate tomorrow and they want to detach themselves as a nation. They should but all these falsehood peddled around is all because of the nonsense money driven politicking desired in corrupt Nigeria. |
Re: Benin Traditional Council Suspends Five Chiefs For Pledging Alliance To Ooni by Danand1: 4:36pm On Apr 28 |
Olu317: Try and visit your kings palace to get the true story of how Oduduwa came to Ife, all this that you are saying are just mere formulations 1 Like 1 Share |
Re: Benin Traditional Council Suspends Five Chiefs For Pledging Alliance To Ooni by FxMasterz: 4:39pm On Apr 28 |
DOptical: I don't discuss with brainless kids. I only stated facts according as it is written in books. Abusing me and insulting me in order to state your points shows how brainless and untrained you are. Children that lack home training should get off my mentions. I don't reply nonentities. 2 Likes |
Re: Benin Traditional Council Suspends Five Chiefs For Pledging Alliance To Ooni by Shattuck(m): 4:40pm On Apr 28 |
Olu317:Lajuwa was the head messenger. Said to have usurped the throne at the death of Aworokolokin, and became the ooni, if a mere messenger can seize power, how come you guys find it hard to believe a bini prince was once ruler of ife. 1 Like 1 Share |
Re: Benin Traditional Council Suspends Five Chiefs For Pledging Alliance To Ooni by y3mi(m): 4:41pm On Apr 28 |
Konquest:Well said bro. Besides, the throne of Ooni of Ife as crowned title is but a spiritual leader of all Yoruba kingdoms (sub-ethnic groups) not the paramount leader as many thinks. Paramount leaders doesn't exist. All Yoruba kings are Omo Alades! It is all the internet yoots on Twitter that gave this schism the needless fuel to burn for months, where is @macof when one needs him. He is vast in this histories. 1 Like 1 Share |
Re: Benin Traditional Council Suspends Five Chiefs For Pledging Alliance To Ooni by Niok: 4:44pm On Apr 28 |
Seriously who bows to a yoruba man Very degrading 1 Like 1 Share |
Re: Benin Traditional Council Suspends Five Chiefs For Pledging Alliance To Ooni by Olu317(m): 4:46pm On Apr 28 |
Danand1:There is no Odudua originating from Bini nor Ogu but Ogiso only 😂😂😂 Even Odudua pronounced as oɣodua (oghodua) according to Bini's account says ,origin is Yoruba 😃😃😄 Furthermore, Orunmila is also called odudua in ifaodu😊😊😊
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Re: Benin Traditional Council Suspends Five Chiefs For Pledging Alliance To Ooni by DOptical: 4:50pm On Apr 28 |
FxMasterz: See tears and wailing at the face of facts. You started the insult by misrepresenting facts while saying gibberish! I deal in fact, not stupidity. If you weren't stupid you would know Oranmiyan was the first ruler of Oyo and his son continued the reign, just like his other sons ruled Bini and Ife. Oranmiyan is the Link while Ooni of Ife is the head and is under no empire. Ooni is the father, even as Oba of Bini always referred to the Ooni as his father. As I said, Ooni dresses like Obatala who's the first king of Ife and his descendants continued to reign before another Yoruba named man, Oduduwa of Oke ora was also picked by Ifa to become the king thereby signifying the creation of the universe where both Obatala and Oduduwa formed the equal halves of a sphere which created the universe. 2 Likes |
Re: Benin Traditional Council Suspends Five Chiefs For Pledging Alliance To Ooni by Shattuck(m): 4:51pm On Apr 28 |
HBB1:lajuwa was a ruler in ife, he was an head messanger who seized power and became ooni, power was also seized from him, even oranmiyan seized power, meaning ife never had a stable rule, if a messenger can seize power, what does that tell you about such civilization the olopa and olokoda are not in any way related to the oba word sorry 1 Like 1 Share |
Re: Benin Traditional Council Suspends Five Chiefs For Pledging Alliance To Ooni by BALLOSKI: 4:53pm On Apr 28 |
chopnaira:This Oba no get real name? What's this "n'oba akpolokpolo" I always see? |
Re: Benin Traditional Council Suspends Five Chiefs For Pledging Alliance To Ooni by aswani(m): 5:01pm On Apr 28 |
FxMasterz: This is the second time I am reading this today, where did you people pull this out from and have you got any documentary proof? |
Re: Benin Traditional Council Suspends Five Chiefs For Pledging Alliance To Ooni by HBB1(m): 5:04pm On Apr 28 |
Shattuck: You are not very smart. If power was not stable, how did they build an empire? Lajuwa was a head messenger and seized power after the king died-- big deal? Is that alien to history? Was power not siezed in England? Or France? Or Rome? Didn't the Janissaries (a corp of ex-slaves) seize power in the Ottoman empire? Really?! 🤣 See argument! Again don't defelect the question. Ba- means hover over. Oba means the one who rules over or hovers over. Opa-- means staff Olopa-- means the one who wields the staff Okada-- means bike ( who knows where the word was borrowed from) Olokada-- means bike man. Since you claim Oba is a Benin word and means ruler. Show me from Benin Language, similarities to this. Besides looking at the genealogy of Ife Kings, there were Obas before the first Ooni. Obatala being one. Please try to make sense. 1 Like |
Re: Benin Traditional Council Suspends Five Chiefs For Pledging Alliance To Ooni by Raf4: 5:06pm On Apr 28 |
FxMasterz: You're spewing rubbbishhhh. 1 Like |
Re: Benin Traditional Council Suspends Five Chiefs For Pledging Alliance To Ooni by FxMasterz: 5:12pm On Apr 28 |
DOptical: I am an Oyo Prince. If you don't understand what I wrote, shut up and get out of my mentions. |
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