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Re: Chinua Achebe To Be Buried At Night by Ikenganri(m): 3:59am On May 16, 2013
orgasticdance:
Yeah I'm pretty sure if you were born in switzerland you'd be feeling bad for people who don't speak native schweizerdeutch over a popular european language, say german or french; meanwhile to you the rest of the world be damned because they don't speak schweizerdeutch. Dude just get over your provincial squemishness! If Igbo works for you ,fine!; but you have no right to lord it over anyone, not even your children!
this guy is insane. I doubt whether he is igbo self. Very irritating. If messi with italian anscestry but of argentine nationality can speak italian then why can't this unknown village man shut his mouth up and admit his mistakes. Tufiakwa!

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Re: Chinua Achebe To Be Buried At Night by odumchi: 4:25am On May 16, 2013
Omenali bu omenali. Tradition is tradition.

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Re: Chinua Achebe To Be Buried At Night by orgasticdance: 4:28am On May 16, 2013
nnenna.1:
^^^English and Mandarin are more popular than the Nigerian languages you relegate to the background because the English and Chinese do not reason like many Africans or Igbos, such as yourself.
Just incase you haven't heard. Those languages you just mentioned--Mandarin and English-- belong to world class beaters!; Civilizations that were built through the the sweat brawn and brains from men through time; not some tiny clan in your village! The English and Chinese were not in their caves and little huts beating their chests to the supremacy of their cultures or languages. They toiled, built useful things like the gun powder and steam boat; explored the world, homogenized their societies, consolidated and dominated other peoples like "your folks" and continue to weild so much power and influence today in world.
Contrary to what you think, I'm all for the adoption of a native language as Nigeria's lingua franca-- i don't care which, let it be hausa or yoruba; but going by your parochial stance it's a safe bet you'll be all up in arms if it's nothing but your native tongue!
Re: Chinua Achebe To Be Buried At Night by Nobody: 4:40am On May 16, 2013
orgasticdance:
Just incase you haven't heard. Those languages you just mentioned--Mandarin and English-- belong to world class beaters!; Civilizations that were built through the the sweat brawn and brains from men through time; not some tiny clan in your village! The English and Chinese were not in their caves and little huts beating their chests to the supremacy of their cultures or languages. They toiled, built useful things like the gun powder and steam boat; explored the world, homogenized their societies, consolidated and dominated other peoples like "your folks" and continue to weild so much power and influence today in world.
Contrary to what you think, I'm all for the adoption of a native language as Nigeria's lingua franca--i don't care which, let it be hausa or yoruba; but going by your parochial stance it's a safe bet you'll be all up in arms if it's nothing but your native tongue!



And how did they become world-class beaters? By not spreading their languages or not making sure that their cultures, values, inventions were heard?

By reasoning like sheep such as yourself?

You see why your posts reek of contradictions and stuupidity?

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Re: Chinua Achebe To Be Buried At Night by Ikenganri(m): 4:46am On May 16, 2013
nnenna.1:


And how did they become world-class beaters? By not spreading their languages and making sure that their cultures, values, inventions were heard?

By reasoning like sheep such as yourself?

You see why your posts reek of contradictions and stuupidity?



u still have time replying that slowpoke. If english men had adaopted latin and greek languages that were popular in those olden days, i bet u today english wouldn't have been popular.

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Re: Chinua Achebe To Be Buried At Night by orgasticdance: 4:50am On May 16, 2013
Ikenga nri: this guy is insane. I doubt whether he is igbo self. Very irritating. If messi with italian anscestry but of argentine nationality can speak italian then why can't this unknown village man shut his mouth up and admit his mistakes. Tufiakwa!
It's amazing how people who can't come up with any thing persuasive to say resort to personal attacks--Too easy. Sir I made that decision at 6, 20 years should have been enough time to rescind my mistakes. My point is, I can live with people being in love with their native cultures and traditions--personally I don't give a fig, in my grave it won't count-- i am practical and adopt whatever works for me. And in this life english has served me wellu wellu wellu even if it came at the expense of not being able to string a sentence in igbo. If the fact irritates u, get out of your house, watch the birds, and learn to live a little.
Re: Chinua Achebe To Be Buried At Night by manny4life(m): 4:57am On May 16, 2013
orgasticdance:
Yeah I'm pretty sure if you were born in switzerland you'd be feeling bad for people who don't speak native schweizerdeutch over a popular european language, say german or french; meanwhile to you the rest of the world be damned because they don't speak schweizerdeutch. Dude just get over your provincial squemishness! If Igbo works for you ,fine!; but you have no right to lord it over anyone, not even your children!

Wetin consign me consign pesin wey dem born for Switzerland? Do you know if I was born in Nigeria or the U.S? Where I was born isn't the issue, nor should it be a yardstick, nonetheless, I speak Igbo fluently, and write Igbo to a great extent. What business of mine is it? Please slow your roll and DON'T EVER step at me like that again, stay on your damn lane. I speak Igbo because I'm one, not because of any attachment of birth place or otherwise. If you're french and can't speak french, SORRY. If you're German and can't speak your language, ndo...So if you're Igbo and cant speak Igbo... I pity you.

My parents made the conscious decision to speak Igbo and same rule follows through us. My nephew Tobenna just turned four, whenever my mom (his grandma) goes visiting to their place, well guess what, he says "grandma grandma, kedu". When he chats on the phone with grandma or pa, yes they influence him with Igbo "NOT LORD IT OVER HIM". Was he born in Nigeria? Now tell me when he gets to age of 10, tell me why he won't speak Igbo gradually and fluently by the time he's older.

My friend, leave matter. If you chose not to speak Igbo and give flimsy nonsense excuse about it, that's on you, not my damn business... Even the holy Bible said, "If you train a child in a particular way, when he grows old, he will NEVER depart from it. There are MANY of us on NL, who where born here or came here at little ages or whatever, we speak and write Igbo like no mans business, YET, carry on with English and write it perfectly...Go to the Igbo learning thread, you will see for yourself.

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Re: Chinua Achebe To Be Buried At Night by Ikenganri(m): 5:00am On May 16, 2013
orgasticdance:
It's amazing how people who can't come up with any thing persuasive to say resort to personal attacks--Too easy. Sir I made that decision at 6, 20 years should have been enough time to rescind my mistakes. My point is, I can live with people being in love with their native cultures and traditions--personally I don't give a fig, in my grave it won't count-- i am practical and adopt whatever works for me. And in this life english has served me wellu wellu wellu even if it came at the expense of not being able to string a sentence in igbo. If the fact irritates u, get out of your house, watch the birds, and learn to live a little.

then why are u advertising ur ignorance here on nairaland? Was it not ur comment that made people to start attacking u? Why must u come here and show us native igbo speakers that we are toiling and dying over a clannish unpopular language?. U made a decision at 6?,lol, i bet u at six u are still too tender to make such decision. So stop lying.

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Re: Chinua Achebe To Be Buried At Night by dayokanu(m): 5:02am On May 16, 2013
Nkwobi things grin grin
Re: Chinua Achebe To Be Buried At Night by manny4life(m): 5:09am On May 16, 2013
Ikenga nri: then why are u advertising ur ignorance here on nairaland? Was it not ur comment that made people to start attacking u? Why must u come here and show us native igbo speakers that we are toiling and dying over a clannish unpopular language?. U made a decision at 6?,lol, i bet u at six u are still too tender to make such decision. So stop lying.

Even if he made the decision @ 6 which is very unlikely, it's his problem. If that's the path he wants to tow, that's a conscientious decision he made, and like he said, if he wanted to rescind his decision, he would have done so by now.
Re: Chinua Achebe To Be Buried At Night by cosify: 6:02am On May 16, 2013
In as much as i respect the culture and tradition of the Ogidi people,the burial of my mentor,Professor Achebe should not be shrouded in secrecy which night hours represent.
Re: Chinua Achebe To Be Buried At Night by CiloCharles(m): 6:59am On May 16, 2013
RIP Prof Achebe
Re: Chinua Achebe To Be Buried At Night by PAGAN9JA(m): 8:26am On May 16, 2013
orgasticdance: ^^can't u mount a better argument? Leave the hurt and petty traditional sentiment aside. I'm all for learning...

I was about to argue back when I read your ignorant comment about Igbos having no script without the white man. then I knew it would be useless to waste my time on you.

Igbo had an ancient script called Nsibidi : http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nsibidi

it is also used by related tribes like the Ekoi, etc. ..

Infact your whitemen and christianity caused the extinction and almost dissapearance of the script. angry

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Re: Chinua Achebe To Be Buried At Night by PAGAN9JA(m): 8:28am On May 16, 2013
orgasticdance:
but you have no right to lord it over anyone, not even your children!

wow you are crazy wahala I swear! shocked shocked shocked shocked

its her kids you ^%^&%*^%. how else does culture pass down to the next generation? how did you learn to speak without someone forcing you to? OMGS! someone needs to beat you up! angry
Re: Chinua Achebe To Be Buried At Night by PAGAN9JA(m): 8:30am On May 16, 2013
orgasticdance:
Just incase you haven't heard. Those languages you just mentioned--Mandarin and English-- belong to world class beaters!; Civilizations that were built through the the sweat brawn and brains from men through time; not some tiny clan in your village! The English and Chinese were not in their caves and little huts beating their chests to the supremacy of their cultures or languages. They toiled, built useful things like the gun powder and steam boat; explored the world, homogenized their societies, consolidated and dominated other peoples like "your folks" and continue to weild so much power and influence today in world.
Contrary to what you think, I'm all for the adoption of a native language as Nigeria's lingua franca-- i don't care which, let it be hausa or yoruba; but going by your parochial stance it's a safe bet you'll be all up in arms if it's nothing but your native tongue!




abaegi PLEASE SHUT UP! MODS! THIS ANIMAL IS INSULTING THE IGBO PEOPLES! HOW DARE YOU CALL THEM MERE BILLAGE FOLK AND TRIVIALIZE THEIR LANGUAGE?! CAN YOU INVENT YOUR OWN LANGUAGE , VOCAB, GRAMMER, etc.??!!! angry angry angry angry


SOMETHINGS WRONG WITH YOUR HEAD! I HATE BACKWARD PEOPLE LIKE YOU! angry
Re: Chinua Achebe To Be Buried At Night by Anabaraonyepete(m): 11:41am On May 16, 2013
RIP... Achebe.. Anambrarains will miss you Sir!!! cry[color=#990000][/color]
Re: Chinua Achebe To Be Buried At Night by butterflyy(f): 2:57pm On May 16, 2013
Una don finish? Make i talk my own.
Achebe's death is a blessing in disguise, nomatter how short it will last.
For all d years av lived in this my home town Ogidi, av never seen it this clean. All d waste along d roads has been cleared n d gutters too. Dancing to Tuface's Ihe n'eme...
Re: Chinua Achebe To Be Buried At Night by Ikenganri(m): 4:22pm On May 16, 2013
butterflyy: Una don finish? Make i talk my own.
Achebe's death is a blessing in disguise, nomatter how short it will last.
For all d years av lived in this my home town Ogidi, av never seen it this clean. All d waste along d roads has been cleared n d gutters too. Dancing to Tuface's Ihe n'eme...
i suspect that you're one of those psychos that escaped from the ugandan hospital.
Re: Chinua Achebe To Be Buried At Night by excellentmomma(f): 9:26pm On May 17, 2013
PAGAN 9JA:


GO DIE! I hope your likes who lead our nation into backward mentality succumb to disease. angry

Prof. Chinua Achebe is a member of ODINANI IGBO RELIGION. not some foreign jewish cult called christianity that centres around man-worship. angry
Pls say what u know, which one is Odinani Igbo Religion biko, Prof Chinua died an Anglican, his parents were Anglican missionaries too.
Re: Chinua Achebe To Be Buried At Night by PAGAN9JA(m): 10:34pm On May 17, 2013
excellentmomma:
Pls say what u know, which one is Odinani Igbo Religion biko, Prof Chinua died an Anglican, his parents were Anglican missionaries too.

Prof. Chinua never tried to associate himself with christainity. he hated it. it s not his fault his parents were blind.
Re: Chinua Achebe To Be Buried At Night by Ikenganri(m): 5:09am On May 18, 2013
PAGAN 9JA:


Prof. Chinua never tried to associate himself with christainity. he hated it. it s not his fault his parents were blind.
you are doomed. Illiteracy is ur best friend. Achebe is a practising christian till death.
Re: Chinua Achebe To Be Buried At Night by PAGAN9JA(m): 9:09am On May 18, 2013
Ikenga nri: you are doomed. Illiteracy is ur best friend. Achebe is a practising christian till death.


you are doomed yourself. Achebe was a christian at first, only because his dad converted. but later on, he realised that traditional religion was the way.


JEFFREY BROWN: And I was interested to read that your own parents were converts to Christianity...

CHINUA ACHEBE: Yes.

JEFFREY BROWN: ... and then missionaries traveling around the country.

CHINUA ACHEBE: That's right. That's right. I was steeped in religion, the religion of the foreigners , because I wasn't there when my father converted, and so that was one aspect of life.

I wasn't questioning it. In fact,at first, I thought that Christianity was very a good and a very valuable thing for us. But after a while , I began to feel that the story that I was told about this religion wasn't perhaps completely whole, that something was left out.

There was no attempt to understand what was behind the Ibo religion. It was simply dismissed as the worship of stones and, you know, not as good as Christianity.

In Nekede, Achebe gained an appreciation for Mbari, a traditional art form which seeks to invoke the Gods' protection through symbolic sacrifices in the form of sculpture and collage.
Re: Chinua Achebe To Be Buried At Night by Ikenganri(m): 7:54pm On May 18, 2013
PAGAN 9JA:



you are doomed yourself. Achebe was a christian at first, only because his dad converted. but later on, he realised that traditional religion was the way.


JEFFREY BROWN: And I was interested to read that your own parents were converts to Christianity...

CHINUA ACHEBE: Yes.

JEFFREY BROWN: ... and then missionaries traveling around the country.

CHINUA ACHEBE: That's right. That's right. I was steeped in religion, the religion of the foreigners , because I wasn't there when my father converted, and so that was one aspect of life.

I wasn't questioning it. In fact,at first, I thought that Christianity was very a good and a very valuable thing for us. But after a while , I began to feel that the story that I was told about this religion wasn't perhaps completely whole, that something was left out.

There was no attempt to understand what was behind the Ibo religion. It was simply dismissed as the worship of stones and, you know, not as good as Christianity.

In Nekede, Achebe gained an appreciation for Mbari, a traditional art form which seeks to invoke the Gods' protection through symbolic sacrifices in the form of sculpture and collage.

and where did u get this ur self-made interview from?. Lying against a dead man. He was a christian till death.
Re: Chinua Achebe To Be Buried At Night by PAGAN9JA(m): 8:01pm On May 18, 2013
Ikenga nri: and where did u get this ur self-made interview from?. Lying against a dead man. He was a christian till death.

I got it from a video. dont DARE accuse me of lying. I never lie in these things. angry
Re: Chinua Achebe To Be Buried At Night by Ikenganri(m): 8:19pm On May 18, 2013
PAGAN 9JA:


I got it from a video. dont DARE accuse me of lying. I never lie in these things. angry
video compiled by you?. The people nearer to him are giving u facts but you are here arguing.
Re: Chinua Achebe To Be Buried At Night by PAGAN9JA(m): 9:12pm On May 18, 2013
Ikenga nri: video compiled by you?. The people nearer to him are giving u facts but you are here arguing.

abeg shut up! stop lying. Ill try to get the link for you! angry angry
Re: Chinua Achebe To Be Buried At Night by PAGAN9JA(m): 9:14pm On May 18, 2013
TAKE THAT:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JHF_w0gkyiI

IKENGA NRI, YOU MAN-WORSHIPPER, watch from 4:00 angry
Re: Chinua Achebe To Be Buried At Night by Ndipe(m): 9:14pm On May 18, 2013
Siena: Wow. I wasn't aware Professor Achebe was dead, he'll be sorely missed, I loved all his books.

May his soul RIP.


Last edited by Siena at 11:24 AM. Reason: Wrong title given to the great Igbo literary giant.

What? He died like 2 months ago, Sienna.
Re: Chinua Achebe To Be Buried At Night by Nobody: 1:07am On May 19, 2013
Ndipe: What? He died like 2 months ago, Sienna.

I'm aware of that now, Ndipe. I don't reside in Nigeria, so a lot of news concerning Nigeria fails to filter through, both good and bad.
Re: Chinua Achebe To Be Buried At Night by butterflyy(f): 11:51am On May 24, 2013
Ikenga nri: i suspect that you're one of those psychos that escaped from the ugandan hospital.
Seriously? U must be high on toilet paper. Or u dont comprehend well
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And how did they become world-class beaters? By not spreading their languages or not making sure that their cultures, values, inventions were heard?

By reasoning like sheep such as yourself?

You see why your posts reek of contradictions and stuupidity?


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