asuustrike1:

What is the essence of will and testament. even without court wedding or traditional wedding, once the testator (A man who writes a will ) dies intestate, the wife is still entitled to his property too

Sweetlemon:


I am interested in my dignity. It's not just about property. It's about having a rightful place. You men can be funny a times even when you have the best intentions. It's important for women to be protected. Also you need documents to be recognized as a couple should you guys live outside Nigeria especially when issues come up and only a document can clear such.

GooseBaba:


Na today cow dey man...!? Abeg leave that thing.. Nothing we can't cure with machetes and pepper soup spices...

Meanwhile, go re read again since you dey mad...na you talk am...he was clear about his opulence for white wedding...can the same not be applied to traditional wedding with court documents ... Hence my stance "inferiority things" and it stands gidigba..! No shaking

And while you're at it... Kindly show me which legal documents one gets from white wedding that holds up in the court of law...?

100Cents:


Thank you.

Poster is more interested in fighting for her rights to property.. She is not even a Christian as she mentioned divorce as an option..

God may I dodge all the girls with poster mentality in Jesus name. Amen..

MadCow1:



[b]Bros... Neither I nor Owoh wrote the laws.. But I can certainly interprete it.

I will address your last question first; Did you know that the Nigerian government has licensed certain religious Institutions to legally contract marriages on its behalf and issue the couples a formal government approved marriage licence which is exactly the same as you would get from a marriage registry? One of such institution is the Catholic Church and also the Anglican church amongst a few others. What this means is that someone who gets Married I the Catholic Church does not necessarily need to go to court anymore as you can't have two marriage license for 1 marriage. #Fact!


Like I stated at the beginning, no be we write the law.. Unfortunately the Nigerian marriage acts draws a clear distinction between customary laws and federal laws and this is done to respect some of our traditional values and not trample upon people's cultural and traditional rites. What this means is that should a marital dispute arise, the laws under which the marriage was contracted would be the applicable law during arbitration.

Example: Under customary law marriage in some jurisdiction, a person can marry more than one partner and it's okay. Under federal laws (Which is what the court and authorised church marriages are governed by), polygamy is a Crime not a misdemeanor and it is punishable according to federal law.

so a woman who wouldn't want to be in a polygamous marriage and wants to guard against this needs to have her marriage governed by federal laws.. Also whereas federal laws provide for alimony in case of divorce, many customary laws don't. Infact many customary laws are biased towards women and so it is unwise for any woman to have her marriage governed by a law that is prejudiced towards her..


If you need further explanation, feel free to ask further questions.


I dey mad no mean say I no sabi something. I do read your banter with Mr Owoh and the problem remain silent you clearly misunderstood his post.

Tanks


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GooseBaba:


Stop skirting around like a mad cow....

What about churches that does not have the privilege to issue those documents..? Would their members not register with the court.? Therefore, what's the difference between white and traditional wedding when both applicants registers with the court..!!? NOTHING..!

But your guy made it clear that his opulence stance on white wedding leads to legal backing...

I take grass beg you.... Re read and stop trying to make excuses for his statement soaked in inferior gravy... My statement stand gidigba...!! I say no shaking..

OrlandoOwoh:
Church or court wedding is not all about spending money, like the OP would want us to believe. Yes, you spend money, but the main reason some people do it (court), including myself, is to give it a legal backing. The certificate you're issued at the registry has legal backing. For those that did just traditional marriage or paid only the bride price (especially when there is no legal document backing it) , before the law you're not a couple, but just cohabiting.

Wait o! Na me be this? See as I dey yarn big grammar upon say I write WAEC, NECO and 3 GCE just to pass English.. God Punish their father..

GooseBaba:
OrlandoOwoh:
Church or court wedding is not all about spending money, like the would want us to believe. Yes, you spend money, but the main reason some people do it, including myself, is to give it a legal backing. The certificate you're issued at the registry or court has legal backing. For those that did just traditional marriage or paid only the bride price, before the law you're not a couple, but just cohabitating.


Mazi MadCow1....

This is your guys original post, before any magomago modification... Therefore, you have been arguing from a defective premise pertaining my "inferiority complex " statement...

For a minute I being think say I dey craze, but i come realize say na you dey mad... ..so Mr lawyer, before you take a case make sure you communicate well well with your client before you carry chest enter court..

Go ye forth and mis yarn no more.. Amun..!

Sweetlemon:


Lol!

Those Italians will not be recognized without an official document even in Nigerian courts not talk of their own country.

You missed the emphasis on the legal document and not necessarily the ceremony.

MadCow1:



So what exactly shows inferiority complex in that post?

ArtistA:
A nice thread i must say

@jayjagz, madcow et al

Thanks for clarification. I have a question though. What happens in a scenario where things goes south in a marriage where all forms of union are performed and certificates obtained (ie Traditional, Court, Church etc.)? Which authority becomes the final arbiter and which of the issued documents becomes the most valid? Do the documents nullify each other till only one is left standing? I am assuming they can't all be valid since the rules that constitutes them differs (multiple wives and side chicks allowed in customary while it is *officially* an anathema in church/court unions in Nigeria)

*Just thinking aloud* : If the earliest document obtained is the most valid , then 99.99% of Naija married men have been exercising their legal (and traditional) rights by default since 419AD

Please you guys shouldn't attack me just kidding while learning. I don't condone unfaithfulness and pray never to cheat on my wife. Awaits answer from the legalminds

GooseBaba:


Ha..finally you ask valid question....

He used church and court as the main standard and used traditional as the defective one.. Hence, my argument.. What is the difference with traditional marriage infused with court documents... Is that not still legal backings...

Mind you he never said multiple wives, YOU introduced that...

Church wedding without court documents is it not the same thing as cohabitating..?

okay.. Now this is jurisprudence and for that, I GIVE UP...


And you have also started misreading my post as well.. I talked about multiple wives only as an example to differentiate how customary laws differ from federal laws win regards to marriage. I never said Mr. Owoh's made mention of that.


Thanks..


#StillGivingUp..

_{Nwokem, you owe me one Jumbo SK (Adult dose) for wasting my brain like this..}

filiks:


During my court marriage session some years ago, it was clearly stated that we had the chance to back out if either of us was already in any previous marriage contract/arrangement and that includes traditional. So I'm a little confused here when you say the court does not recognize traditional marriage.

Hmmm!

They told you that at the registry? Strange.. I say so because though both forms of marriages are legal in Nigeria, they are both governed by different sets of laws.

MadCow1:



okay.. Now this is jurisprudence and for that, I GIVE UP...

jpphilips:


there is no dignity in strategically positioning yourself to benefit from a broken marriage, what is the guarantee you will even work the least hard to ensure things dont go south?
your line of thought is scary

There is no wisdom in not protecting oneself against the possibility of harm in the future.. Taking precaution in life has never been a bad thing. In America and some other European countries today, it's called a pre-nuptial agreement..

You can call it Marriage PPE..

MadCow1:



Hmmm!

They told you that at the registry? Strange.. I say so because though both forms of marriages are legal in Nigeria, they are both governed by different sets of laws.

filiks:


Yea they read out some laws that guide the whole thing before proceeding. The lady was very thorough with every single step. So its hard to forget anything that happened that day. She even read the punishment for going against any of the laws.

Well.. I guess she did that to warn you about the implications of porting from customary marriage to Court marriage as the sanctions are harsher and carry heavier penalties than the former.




O well.. I hope you followed through with it sha. All the best in your marriage sir and I wish above all things that your marriage is blissful.

MadCow1:



There is no wisdom in not protecting oneself against the possibility of harm in the future.. Taking precaution in life has never been a bad thing. In America and some other European countries today, it's called a pre-nuptial agreement..

You can call it Marriage PPE..

Stop all the grammar and call it what it is...Marriage Insurance

I think a lot of married folks are not happy. Don't let those happy family portraits fool you.

When they see you single and happy, they cajole you into marriage under the guise of "being responsible"

And once you are locked in..."Gotcha!!!" After all, misery needs company...so they say.

Back in the days, we used to use the Post Office to send mails, rotary phones to make calls,
panties catalog for p.orn, marriage to solidify relationships.

Fast forward to the 21st century, we use emails and text messages, cellphones, www (fill in the gap).com for p.orn.
So stay away from marriages. There is nothing in it for a man especially if you live in the West.

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OrlandoOwoh:
Church or court wedding is not all about spending money, like the OP would want us to believe. Yes, you spend money, but the main reason some people do it (court), including myself, is to give it a legal backing. The certificate you're issued at the registry has legal backing. For those that did just traditional marriage or paid only the bride price (especially when there is no legal document backing it) , before the law you're not a couple, but just cohabiting.

Sixix:


What a pity!

However would you like me to start counting women who were wedded legally and still got dumped and maltreated.

Court marriage is for 'those' women and NOT WOMEN

Cyberknight:


Not true at all. For a marriage to be considered valid, it must be registered, i.e. even if you got married according to Ifa rites or whatever, all you have to do is to appear before a registry and confirm that marraige by means of an affidavit. You do NOT have to go through any other ceremony at all.

MadCow1:


Well.. I guess she did that to warn you about the implications of porting from customary marriage to Court marriage as the sanctions are harsher and carry heavier penalties than the former.




O well.. I hope you followed through with it sha. All the best in your marriage sir and I wish above all things that your marriage is blissful.

slimmy05:
White wedding or court marriage is not my culture. I am not interested in that kind of eye service union.

MadCow1:



Call her whatever you like..

BUT any woman who does not legally protect herself in a marriage only has herself to blame should shiit go south. .

Also note that the marriage act does not only protect women but men as well as in some cases the man may be awarded alimony from his wife.

Tanks

filiks:


Yea, I followed through. I was getting married to my friend and so whether it was court, trad, church or all the above, it really didn't matter to me. We are a few years into it already and loving every bit of it. Blessed with a beautiful daughter and another underway.

Thanks a billi for the good wishes. I pray same and more for you.

Toks2008:


Ofcourse i dont expect most guys to consent to legal marrriage because it keeps them in check.

Show me a man that does legal wedding with you and i will show you a man that truly wants you.

Cyberknight:


Not true at all. For a marriage to be considered valid, it must be registered, i.e. even if you got married according to Ifa rites or whatever, all you have to do is to appear before a registry and confirm that marraige by means of an affidavit. You do NOT have to go through any other ceremony at all.