Ifeann:


the anti christ is a term used to warn us christains of people like Mohammed, Joseph Smith etc


1John 4:15 Whosoever shall confess that Jesus is the Son of God, God dwelleth in him, and he in God.


1 John 2:22 Who is a liar but he that denieth that Jesus is the Christ? He is antichrist, that denieth the Father and the Son. 23 Whosoever denieth the Son, the same hath not the Father: [(but) he that acknowledgeth the Son hath the Father also]

Jesus is the Son of God, or denies that Jesus Christ IS come in the flesh, or denies that Jesus is the Christ (anointed one). Every person that denies the Son, does not have the Father and is antichrist, and also is an antichrist.

However, the single most egregious - and only unforgivable sin - in Muhammad's religion is committed, if a Muslim were to confess that Jesus is the Son of God. A sin worse than child rape or cold-blooded murder. Isnt thatt taught as shirk in Islam my friend.


Sura 19:88 They say: "(Allah) Most Gracious has begotten a son!" 89 Indeed ye have put forth a thing most monstrous!


Surah 9.30The Jews call 'Uzair a son of God, and the Christians call Christ the Son of God. That is a saying from their mouth; (In this) they but imitate what the Unbelievers of old used to say. God's curse be on them: how they are deluded away from the Truth! Surah 9.30"

Need I say more. Islam is an anti christ.

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With all the condemnations of Christians' faith, allah still said they are going to heaven (Quran 2:62). Inconsistencies by allah. Smh!

Ifeann:


Yazach I have refuted your silly argument, accept the truth or reject it .. I quoted that verse on servants and told u the parable and the figurative story used to explain it. Read Luke 12 again my friend. It doesn't in anyway encourage servitude talk less of slavery. But wallow in ur denial if it brings you bliss but one day u will have to answer for it. Christains have spent their time warning u of islam and your false prophet same way christains have been warning the word of faith movement, Mormons, Jehovah witnesses etc. Some will be reject some will accept.

Mr man you done reach end of the road
Christians who are slaves should give their masters full respect so that the name of God and his teaching will not be shamed. If your master is a Christian, that is no excuse for being disrespectful. You should work all the harder because you are helping another believer by your efforts. Teach these truths, Timothy, and encourage everyone to obey them. (1 Timothy 6:1-2 NLT)

Ifeann:

Yazach on a different topic if I asked u to take the toys of the hands of your 6 year old daughter and hand her to a man in his 50s for marriage dispite the fact that this man already has several wives and sex slaves in his harem and this man will later disvir.gin her when she is 9 years old - will you accept to have this man marry your child.

Can you please remind me of the stipulated age for females to marry
Please back it up with any religious book or any law. Thanks

Ifeann:



the anti christ is a term used to warn us christains of people like Mohammed, Joseph Smith etc


1John 4:15 Whosoever shall confess that Jesus is the Son of God, God dwelleth in him, and he in God.


1 John 2:22 Who is a liar but he that denieth that Jesus is the Christ? He is antichrist, that denieth the Father and the Son. 23 Whosoever denieth the Son, the same hath not the Father: [(but) he that acknowledgeth the Son hath the Father also]

Jesus is the Son of God, or denies that Jesus Christ IS come in the flesh, or denies that Jesus is the Christ (anointed one). Every person that denies the Son, does not have the Father and is antichrist, and also is an antichrist.

However, the single most egregious - and only unforgivable sin - in Muhammad's religion is committed, if a Muslim were to confess that Jesus is the Son of God. A sin worse than child rape or cold-blooded murder. Isnt thatt taught as shirk in Islam my friend.


Sura 19:88 They say: "(Allah) Most Gracious has begotten a son!" 89 Indeed ye have put forth a thing most monstrous!


Surah 9.30The Jews call 'Uzair a son of God, and the Christians call Christ the Son of God. That is a saying from their mouth; (In this) they but imitate what the Unbelievers of old used to say. God's curse be on them: how they are deluded away from the Truth! Surah 9.30"

Need I say more. Islam is an anti christ.

truthman2012:
w
With all the condemnations of Christians' faith, allah still said they are going to heaven (Quran 2:62). Inconsistencies by allah. Smh!

This verses of the glorious Qura'an will be appropriate:
Qura'an 1 vs 5-7
O!! Allah!! Guide us to the straight path
The way of those upon whom You have bestowed Your grace(Muslims)
(Not (the way) of those who earned Your anger(Jews), nor of those who went astray)(Christians)
Meaning
guide us to the straight path, the path of those upon whom you have bestowed Your grace, that is, the people of guidance, sincerity and obedience to Allah and His Messengers. They are the people who adhere to Allah's commandments and refrain from committing what He has prohibited.
But, help us to avoid the path of those whom Allah is angry with(Jews), whose intentions are corrupt, who know the truth, yet deviate from it.

Also, help us avoid the path of those who were led astray, who lost the true knowledge and, as a result, are wandering in misguidance, unable to find the correct path.(Christians)

yazach:


Mr man you done reach end of the road
Christians who are slaves should give their masters full respect so that the name of God and his teaching will not be shamed. If your master is a Christian, that is no excuse for being disrespectful. You should work all the harder because you are helping another believer by your efforts. Teach these truths, Timothy, and encourage everyone to obey them. (1 Timothy 6:1-2 NLT)



Can you please remind me of the stipulated age for females to marry
Please back it up with any religious book or any law. Thanks

1st timothy 6: 1-2
1 Let as many servants as are under the yoke count their own masters worthy of all honour, that the name of God and his doctrine be not blasphemed.

2 And they that have believing masters, let them not despise them, because they are brethren; but rather do them service, because they are faithful and beloved, partakers of the benefit. These things teach and exhort.


Notice he said. .."under the yoke" which connotates oppression meaning he understood the situation of the slaves. Mohammed never made such a comment. He endorsed slavery,breeding of slaves and traded slaves himself.

Yazach what would u have expected to have been said in 1st Timothy... would you have been happy if the slaves were commanded to Rise up and kill their masters. Christainity preaches peace no matter your situation. U muslims never understand that.


I asked you a question would u give your 6 year old daughter to marry a man in his 50s who already had several wives and sex slaves and who would Later disvi.rgin her at age 9 please answer this before I answer the question you gigave me as a reply.

yazach:




Don't forget that both of you differ on who Jesus is more so, you both be denied by Jesus

What does that mean...is it because Mohammed says so. ... lol. Mohammed was a caravan thief, a paedophile , mass killer, terrorist and sex addict. ..I don't take what Mohammed says serious. ..I will be accepted by Jesus and praise God in his glory when I leave earth. . I don't plan on going to a decadent make belief place to have sex, dis.virgin innocent girls/boys and drink wine and eat dates for all eternity.

I tot u were accusing me of not knowing the meaning of the anti christ. .. the passages on the anti christ was written hundreds of years before Mohammed showed up with Islam. U have been warned.
I don't know truthman2012's beliefs but if it doesn't agree with the Bible I will point it out out to him. And I expect him to do the same. But I promise u, you won't see a christain strap a bomb and blow up another christian because of theological differences like shi'a and sunni do

Ifeann:
But I promise u, you won't see a christain strap a bomb and blow up another christian because of theological differences like shi'a and sunni do

See ehn, all the hogwash you've been spewing so far on this thread does'nt in anyway pinch me at all, because it is obvious so far on this thread and the other thread about buhari that you are one stiffnecked gainsayer who has been spoonfed by the anti-islam sites like the one on your personal text. People like you have once invaded the religion and islam section times without number and gone after been refuted, those who remain gainsayer are left to wallow in their ignorance...Meanwhile threads upon threads have been opend to denolish the falsehood of the bible and christianity. Refer here: https://www.nairaland.com/739943/demolishing-falsehood-christianity-bible

Now, tell us you lied with the above claim of yours that christian don't kill eachother on theological differences. Thank you.

Rilwayne001:


See ehn, all the hogwash you've been spewing so far on this thread does'nt in anyway pinch me at all, because it is obvious so far on this thread and the other thread about buhari that you are one stiffnecked gainsayer who has been spoonfed by the anti-islam sites like the one on your personal text. People like you have once invaded the religion and islam section times without number and gone after been refuted, those who remain gainsayer are left to wallow in their ignorance...Meanwhile threads upon threads have been opend to denolish the falsehood of the bible and christianity. Refer here: https://www.nairaland.com/739943/demolishing-falsehood-christianity-bible

Now, tell us you lied with the above claim of yours that christian don't kill eachother on theological differences. Thank you.

Hey why are you Engaging me in such a manner. . Did I lie when I said sunni and shi'a kill them selves over Islam.


Why did u bring buhari into this matter. .
Since you brought buhari into this

* I have never seen any school built in his name.
* I have never seen any borehole constructed by him.
* There is no record of any scholarship
awarded by him or for him nor through him.
* I have never seen him use his popularity to canvass for any
charitable work nor any humanitarian
effort, not even at the height of the polio scourge where
other
purposeful and prominent leaders lead the campaign for
immunization.
* No single text book has been donated to any school either
by him, for him or through him.
* Asides from doing nothing, he has not improved himself
since his exit from office.
* No book written, no memoirs, no lectures,
nothing.
* The only thing of note he can point to are his numerous
interviews on the BBC Hausa station.
* He never champion for a university in his state nor has he
ever been involved in any kind of programme to better the
lives of the Almajiris in Daura.
* His entire existence has not lead to any meaningful
development in Daura, yet they say he can change Nigeria.
Doesn't charity begin at home again?
* No wonder he was referred to as being ''perpetually
unelectable''.
* He is not a patron to any organization, group or association.
* No professional body in Nigeria has ever invited him for
their lecture, convention or gala night.

^^^ hehehe this lady knows nothing about GEJ i guess.

Can you help him provide informations to the following issues:

1. The Chibok Girls.
2. NNPC Scam.
3. Police pension fund.
4. Missing 20Billion.
5. $9million Arms deal.
6. Bomb Blasts.
7. Immigration job scam.
8. Petroleum pump price.
9. Devaluation of Naira.
10. Oil theft.
11. Power outage.
12. Selling of Nepa.
13. Selling of Refineries.
14. Skyrocketed Nepa Bills.
15. ASUU & poly Strike.
16. Doctors Strike.
17. National Assembly tragedy.
18. Stella's Oduah Aviation Scam
20. Subsidy Removal

GEJ bottom.Licker

Rilwayne001:
This will be the last time i'll be replying you on this issue, you have'nt address the primary issue of this thread.



Still yet i stated in my previous post that it killing them all including little childrens should never be the answer, you may say out of you stupidity that sons and daughters of idol worshipper will still be an idol worshipper...but what will you say of Abraham atleast his father were hardcore idol worshippers...Tell me the reason why childrens/babies head should be snashed to the tree.




These people are living on their land, whatever they are doing or worshipping should not be of anybodys concern, God can send his prophet to preach to them, and the little people that would hearken to his word will do so. i asked you a quwstion the other time you didnt answer it. i said what essence are those prophets sent to some generations in the past are they sent to preach to those who love God alone amd not those who do not? why is it that prophets were sent upon prophets if not to people who are not ready for God.? Were those prophets sent to kill idol worshippers?




You are very stup1d...for your head is impervous to correction

Fvcktard

ma small kid rilwan or wadeva ya feel ya calling yaself, first I want to let ya know ya being alive today is cos of d living God I serve and not by ya blood sucking demon ya call allah. U muslims never cease to surprise me, imagine somone ya call a god asking a fool ya call a prophet to defile a six years old grl, ya imam will Bleep ya six years old daugther, since alla approves it. I don't blame ya I see ya as one whoz from a family were ya dad is married to more than 4 wives all thanks to allah, and ya mum may be dying in silence cos only a true being like we christians wld understand her pains. D funniest tin is dose muslim kids from a monogamous family dontt behave like muslim kids from a polygamous family. A religion dat tells ya to kill a fellow bro dat is not same as ya religion, den ya allah must be a vampire. Ma God frowns at dat. U better open ya eyes and see dat no sane human being not to talk of a god wld spill blood, no sane god will say ya shld Bleep a 6 years old grl. Muhammed bleeped her and even said shez d sweetest. Oh! How I wish it happened in dis age, allah and muhammed wld ve been charged for raping and defiling an innocent child.

Rilwayne001:
^^^ hehehe this lady knows nothing about GEJ i guess.

Can you help him provide informations to the following issues:

1. The Chibok Girls.
2. NNPC Scam.
3. Police pension fund.
4. Missing 20Billion.
5. $9million Arms deal.
6. Bomb Blasts.
7. Immigration job scam.
8. Petroleum pump price.
9. Devaluation of Naira.
10. Oil theft.
11. Power outage.
12. Selling of Nepa.
13. Selling of Refineries.
14. Skyrocketed Nepa Bills.
15. ASUU & poly Strike.
16. Doctors Strike.
17. National Assembly tragedy.
18. Stella's Oduah Aviation Scam
20. Subsidy Removal

GEJ bottom.Licker

How many times will I tell u I detest gej .. his government has made tonnes of mistakes. .. that doesn't make buhari good. I critize both of them. Ur Muslim mind always thinks it is gej ("christain" ) vs buhari (Muslim) .

Ifeann:

How many times will I tell u I detest gej .. his government has made tonnes of mistakes.

Okay so you agreed that he is a failure, but you woud'nt vote for another person because the other alternative is a person you loathe because of his religion? this your christian mind ehn, e no get part two. lolz

. that doesn't make buhari good.

Can you tell us one bad thing about him?

It is obvious that you only hate him because of his religion despite having a staunch christian as his vice.

I critize both of them. Ur Muslim mind always thinks it is gej ("christain" ) vs buhari (Muslim) .

No no no no.

Even though i did'nt vote in 2011 because of my age then, i believe back then that Gej is capable of ruling Nigeria to the pinnacle of success especially after watching his shoeless advert , but the greatest shock started when petrol price was raized from #65 to #97.. before all those issues i listed for you to explain info about them to us.

Or maybe you are not in Nigeria all these while to validate all that i listed.?..

You are no better than the pope, are you? even the pope does'nt hate muslims the way you do..ihan

Rilwayne001:
To fellow muslims in the house, here is another chapter and verses of the bible that the [size=15pt] Quran bashers don't want you to know about [/size] just like the one on the thread below
www.nairaland.com/1896846/what-quran-bashers-dont-want-know

LETS GO STRAIGHT TO THE POINT WITHOUT WASTING ANYTIME.

Lets open the alleged holy spirit inspired bible to the book of Numbers chapter 31:

Are you there? okay good, this is what happened.

The bible God was afraid that the midianites will convert the Israelites away from him because of the idolatrous women having consensual sexual relations with the Israelite men and subsequently deceiving them to worship idol/gods different from the bible God.

For these reasons the bible God commanded Moses and the Israelites to MASSACRE the Midianites:

31:1 The Lord said to Moses,

31:2 “Avenge the people of Israel of the Midianites. After that,you will be gathered to your people.”



31:3 So Moses said to the people, “Arm some of your men to go to war against the Midianites and to carry out the Lord’s vengeance on them.

^^What vengeance? what have they done to have deserved to be massacred

31:4 Send into battle a thousand men from each of the tribes of Israel.” .

And:

31:7 They fought against Midian, as the Lord commanded Moses, and killed every man.

31:8 Among their victims were Evi, Rekem, Zur, Hur and Reba—the five kings of Midian. They also killed Balaam son of Beor with the sword.

31:9 The Israelites captured the Midianite women and children and took all the Midianite herds, flocks and goods as plunder.

31:10 They burned all the towns where the Midianites had settled, as well as all their camps.

31:11 They took all the plunder and spoils, including the people and animals,

31:12 and brought the captives, spoils and plunder to Moses and Eleazar the priest…

Moses and his israelite jihadist killed every man, and took the women and children as slaves. They then returned to Moses, but he became upset at them for not killing the women and children as well. Only the young virgins fit to be sex slaves were to be kept alive:

31: 14 Moses was angry with the officers of the army—the commanders of thousands and commanders of hundreds—who returned from the battle.

31:15 “Have you allowed all the women to live?” he asked them.

31:16 “They were the ones who followed Balaam’s advice and were the means of turning the Israelites away from the Lord in what happened at Peor, so that a plague struck the Lord’s people.

31:17 Now kill all the boys. And kill every woman who has slept with a man,

31:18 but save for yourselves every girl who has never slept with a man. .

Then the bible God discusses how to divide up the spoils of war:

31:25 The Lord said to Moses,

31:26: “You and Eleazar the priest and the family heads of the community are to count all the people and animals that were captured.

31:27 Divide the spoils between the soldiers who took part in the battle and the rest of the community.

31:28 From the soldiers who fought in the battle, set apart as tribute for the Lord one out of every five hundred, whether persons, cattle, donkeys, sheep or goats.” .

And below was how it was shared between Moses, his Jihadist and the bible God:

31:32 The plunder remaining from the spoils that the soldiers took was 675,000 sheep,

31:33 72,000 cattle,

31:34 61,000 donkeys

31:35 and 32,000 women who had never slept with a man.

31:36 The half share of those who fought in the battle was: 337,500 sheep,

31:37 of which the tribute for the Lord was 675;

31:38 36,000 cattle, of which the tribute for the Lord was 72;

31:39 30,500 donkeys, of which the tribute for the Lord was 61;

31:40 [size=15] 16,000 virgins, of which the tribute for the Lord was 32. [/size] .

BIBLE GOD'S SHARE OF THE WAR BOOTY

Sheep = 675

Cattle = 72

Donkey = 61

All these^^ animals we may guess/assume that he was going to either fry them or roast them. Or what do ya'll think

Virgins = 32

[size=15pt] Can somebody please tell me what he was goint to do with these 32virgins [/size]

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That is my God. The Most High God. The Holy one of Israel. The God of my fathers.

The christians may try to dress him up as effeminate. But you better recognise he is a man of war. And you better get ready because in the latter times, this is how we shall spoil the nations.

And when Yashua returns, he is coming with a sword. Repent

JesusisLord85:


That is my God. The Most High God. The Holy one of Israel. The God of my fathers.

The christians may try to dress him up as effeminate. But you better recognise he is a man of war. And you better get ready because in the latter times, this is how we shall spoil the nations.

And when Yashua returns, he is coming with a sword. Repent

Your head dey there jare

With d way dis people dhe kill all in d name of say allah go give dem virgins to punny, u sure say dem no go shorten muhammed ration. Its like dem dhe put up and deh ginger to straff virgin weh dem no see, well be wise muhammed dhe hell and I can't imagine say devil go kan give all dis suicide bomber virgins weh him too wan straff. Alla akhubar #bomb#

Islam should be wiped out of dis world out of europe africa and Isreal

Allah akhubar #bomb#

Rilwayne001:


Your head dey there jare

OREMUSSANCTUS:
Islam should be wiped out of dis world out of europe africa and Isreal

Isaiah 45:7 I form the light, and create darkness: I make peace, and create evil: I the LORD do all these things.

Who are you to say what should be and what ought not to be. You are but clay in the hands of the Master.

But worry not, negro. We shall possess the nations as our slaves after Yahshua returns. If you don't want yours, I will have them

Rilwayne001:


Okay so you agreed that he is a failure, but you woud'nt vote for another person because the other alternative is a person you loathe because of his religion? this your christian mind ehn, e no get part two. lolz




Can you tell us one bad thing about him?

It is obvious that you only hate him because of his religion despite having a staunch christian as his vice.



No no no no.

Even though i did'nt vote in 2011 because of my age then, i believe back then that Gej is capable of ruling Nigeria to the pinnacle of success especially after watching his shoeless advert , but the greatest shock started when petrol price was raized from #65 to #97.. before all those issues i listed for you to explain info about them to us.

Or maybe you are not in Nigeria all these while to validate all that i listed.?..

You are no better than the pope, are you? even the pope does'nt hate muslims the way you do..ihan

From the way you talk on thisforum I have always wondered if you were a teenager because of your lack of maturity . If you couldn't vote because of your age the last time but can vote now then I suspect you are relatively young. .maybe 21 at most. But You should be mature enough to make intelligent statements if you are in your 20s but apparently you choose not to.. rather you choose to insult and mock those that disagree with you. Look I have told you before, I voted for buhari 4 years ago. But his statement after he lost helped fuel the crisis that followed that election including his delay to condemn his cpc fans who murdered christains, igbo, yourbas corpers and inec personnel. .... I have also researched him further and posit he has nothing progressive to offer...... I don't like the PDP I was not in the country for the Lagos state elections but my intended candidate was Fahsola a muslim. I love Muslims and all humanity as christ commands me to. I have family members that are Muslims... How many times will I tell you this. ..I detest Islam and the abominable teachings and sickening acts of Mohammed..i have never insulted a muslim or any person in nairaland....I don't insult people or hate but I say things as I see them. .. I am not blinded by sentiments, bias or bigotry unlike you and most Muslims... and apparently it seems you think its just buhari and Jonathan that are running for the presidency. There are over 10 other candidates. In other threads I have given u reasons why I will most likely not vote for buhari or Jonathan. This is a discussion forum and not a campaign platform. It's for discussions. .. So I intend to wait for their manifestos before making my decision.

Ifeann:



From the way you talk on thisforum I have always wondered if you were a teenager because of your lack of maturity . If you couldn't vote because of your age the last time but can vote now then I suspect you are relatively young. .maybe 21 at most. But You should be mature enough to make intelligent statements if you are in your 20s but apparently you choose not to.. rather you choose to insult and mock those that disagree with you. Look I have told you before, I voted for buhari 4 years ago. But his statement after he lost helped fuel the crisis that followed that election including his delay to condemn his cpc fans who murdered christains, igbo, yourbas corpers and inec personnel. .... I have also researched him further and posit he has nothing progressive to offer...... I don't like the PDP I was not in the country for the Lagos state elections but my intended candidate was Fahsola a muslim. I love Muslims and all humanity as christ commands me to. I have family members that are Muslims... How many times will I tell you this. ..I detest Islam and the abominable teachings and sickening acts of Mohammed..i have never insulted a muslim or any person in nairaland....I don't insult people or hate but I say things as I see them. .. I am not blinded by sentiments, bias or bigotry unlike you and most Muslims... and apparently it seems you think its just buhari and Jonathan that are running for the presidency. There are over 10 other candidates. In other threads I have given u reasons why I will most likely not vote for buhari or Jonathan. This is a discussion forum and not a campaign platform. It's for discussions. .. So I intend to wait for their manifestos before making my decision.

This is from you did you remeber
Wow.. Now u are making a fool of yourself and on top of that you are now lying...and Your English is getting more difficult to understand. Look at what I said in that my previous comment and I quote it back to you, "...Your heart is darken and it is difficult to understand the message of God, the bible does not support slavery but gave commands for their fair treatment"
So u see u are really confused. But I won't blame you. Its the lying spirit of Islam in you.
You see I have known you for many Hippocratic act and I will mention just too
1- You quote Qura'an, give it you awn meaning and never wanted to hear another explanation because you know you are going to be exposed. But anytime a bible verse is quoted, it is out of context. Mr man, Bible support slavery and it is glaring even the topic testify to it go back and read the OP

2- You always lie and a good example is you statement above

You see you have never insulted any muslim Ok let me throw it back to you May be it is a lying spirit of christianity

With regards to your claim that you love Muslims, this is your answer

“And the Jews and Christians will never be pleased with you…” [al-Baqarah; 120]

“…so, this is their real problem. They do not lack the clear proofs, nor do they lack convincing arguments from you that you are upon the truth, and that what has come to you from your Lord is the truth. You can present to them whatever you wish, and you can be kind to them as much as you wish, but none of this will please them in the least.

They will be pleased by one thing and one thing only: that you follow their ways and abandon what you are upon of the truth.

Peace will never be on Mohammed, hez in hell fire, I doubt if devil go get virgin give am. Moon god worshipers

yazach:




This verses of the glorious Qura'an will be appropriate:
Qura'an 1 vs 5-7
O!! Allah!! Guide us to the straight path
The way of those upon whom You have bestowed Your grace(Muslims)
(Not (the way) of those who earned Your anger(Jews), nor of those who went astray)(Christians)
Meaning
guide us to the straight path, the path of those upon whom you have bestowed Your grace, that is, the people of guidance, sincerity and obedience to Allah and His Messengers. They are the people who adhere to Allah's commandments and refrain from committing what He has prohibited.
But, help us to avoid the path of those whom Allah is angry with(Jews), whose intentions are corrupt, who know the truth, yet deviate from it.

Also, help us avoid the path of those who were led astray, who lost the true knowledge and, as a result, are wandering in misguidance, unable to find the correct path.(Christians)

Are you denying what allah said in quran 2:62 that Jews Christians are going to heaven? Didn't allah know the Jews' and Christians' belief b4 he said so? Why did he issue out 1:5-7?

truthman2012:


Are you denying what allah said in quran 2:62 that Christians are going to heaven? Didn't allah know Christians' belief b4 he said so?

Lol You want Heaven then do the needs

From your quotes

quran 2:62
Indeed, those who believed and those who were Jews or Christians or Sabeans [before Prophet Muhammad] - those [among them] who believed in Allah and the Last Day and did righteousness - will have their reward with their Lord, and no fear will there be concerning them, nor will they grieve.
Did you notice the bold? So follow it and heaven shall be yours

So I will repeat it
O Allah!!! Guide us to the straight path,
the path of those you bestow you blessings upon(Muslims)
Not the path of those who earn your anger (Jews:because they know the truth but refute it)
and those that were led astray(Christians: They have no knowledge and went astray, they follow what anybody says like Paul who was a Jew)

I love the last part of the surah:

It explained that Christians have no knowledge but do as they are told to do and the verse is very correct
Paul came from no where as enemy of Jesus, He led them astray by saying: Hebrews 6:1
King James Bible
Therefore leaving the principles of the doctrine of Christ, let us go on unto perfection; not laying again the foundation of repentance from dead works, and of faith toward God,

yazach:


This is from you did you remeber
Wow.. Now u are making a fool of yourself and on top of that you are now lying...and Your English is getting more difficult to understand. Look at what I said in that my previous comment and I quote it back to you, "...Your heart is darken and it is difficult to understand the message of God, the bible does not support slavery but gave commands for their fair treatment"
So u see u are really confused. But I won't blame you. Its the lying spirit of Islam in you.
You see I have known you for many Hippocratic act and I will mention just too
1- You quote Qura'an, give it you awn meaning and never wanted to hear another explanation because you know you are going to be exposed. But anytime a bible verse is quoted, it is out of context. Mr man, Bible support slavery and it is glaring even the topic testify to it go back and read the OP

2- You always lie and a good example is you statement above

You see you have never insulted any muslim Ok let me throw it back to you May be it is a lying spirit of christianity

With regards to your claim that you love Muslims, this is your answer

“And the Jews and Christians will never be pleased with you…” [al-Baqarah; 120]

“…so, this is their real problem. They do not lack the clear proofs, nor do they lack convincing arguments from you that you are upon the truth, and that what has come to you from your Lord is the truth. You can present to them whatever you wish, and you can be kind to them as much as you wish, but none of this will please them in the least.

They will be pleased by one thing and one thing only: that you follow their ways and abandon what you are upon of the truth.

You were making a fool of yourself in that thread and I pointed it out to you. . Some people were calling u a kid and pointing out your irrational statement. My friend that wasnt an insult.

I said your Eglish was getting more difficult to understand and u explained it was because of you phone. .not an insult

I said it was the lying spirit of Islam in you and am I wrong to say that? No. . Your quran approved of lying and deceit by using Al taqyyia. .. do you want me to quote the command and popular Islamic interpretations of the verse commanding this practise.. I have seen muslims use it several times inculding your respected Muslim scholars like ahmed deedat, naki, Yusuf etes. Here is a respected Egyptian imam on video Explaining how to use lying deciet aka Al taqyiaa to decieve people to convert to Islam.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gCn1shEkiTA

Now deny the Muslim imam..

So my friend I have insulted no one and I try to tell no lies...I have explained that bible verse on slaves and several other bible verses toyou and other muslims .. yet your reply is to take old testament bible verses out of context or take parables and present it as a command in your effort to disparage the word of God by try ing to draw a parallel with the word of God and the words of Mohammed. . You will fail every time. .

@ yazach

I know why you muslim guys are comfortable with telling lies, it is just like the quran is full of them. Let me quote the verse for you properly:

Lo! those who believe (in that which is revealed unto thee, Muhammad), AND[/b]those who are Jews and Christians and Sabaeans - [b]WHOSOEVER believeth in allah and the Last Day and doeth right - surely their reward is with their Lord and there shall no fear come upon them neither shall they grieve (2:62).

Where do you see ''before prophet Muhammad'' there? I will not be surprised if muslims change the entire words in the quran tomorow as allah himself was changing his revelations to suit any situation.


All your accusations of Paul are irrelevant. Paul had written everything he wrote as part of Christians belief before your Allah said Christians will go to heaven.

Isn't it nice when you see theists arguing and bashing each other and fighting over their supposedly god(s) of the universe, accusing, threatening and condemning each other to their mythical hells... priceless you all should continue shaa am just observing

Ifeann:


You were making a fool of yourself in that thread and I pointed it out to you. . Some people were calling u a kid and pointing out your irrational statement. My friend that wasnt an insult.

I said your Eglish was getting more difficult to understand and u explained it was because of you phone. .not an insult

I said it was the lying spirit of Islam in you and am I wrong to say that? No. . Your quran approved of lying and deceit by using Al taqyyia. .. do you want me to quote the command and popular Islamic interpretations of the verse commanding this practise.. I have seen muslims use it several times inculding your respected Muslim scholars like ahmed deedat, naki, Yusuf etes. Here is a respected Egyptian imam on video Explaining how to use lying deciet aka Al taqyiaa to decieve people to convert to Islam.

@Red you did not abuse anybody
You remember I told you that you Just heard taqqiyah and I asked you to tell us the meaning but you were unable to do so, can you now use this medium to tell us what it means


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gCn1shEkiTA

Ifeann:

Now deny the Muslim imam..

I have long sense that you only go to Islamophobia sites and that is the reason why you cannot reason on your own Just one direction.
So my friend I have insulted no one and I tell no lies...I have explained that bible verse on slaves and several other bible verses toyou and other muslims .. yet your reply is to take old testament bible verses out of context or take parables and present it as a command in your effort to disparage the word of God by try ing to draw a parallel with the word of God and the words of Mohammed. . You will fail every time. .

Your explanation is baseless because you are only trying to abandon Old testament laws in opposition to Jesus Teachings
Both OT & NT support slavery stop hiding under one finger
1 Timothy 6:1-2

yazach:


@Red you did not abuse anybody
You remember I told you that you Just heard taqqiyah and I asked you to tell us the meaning but you were unable to do so, can you now use this medium to tell us what it means


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gCn1shEkiTA


Your explanation is baseless because you are only trying to abandon Old testament laws in opposition to Jesus Teachings
Both OT & NT support slavery stop hiding under one finger
1 Timothy 6:1-2

Yazach when u quote me don't edit what I said. ..you can make my sentences bold for emphasis but don't edit my statements within the darker quote block. .. it confuses people and distorts my massage. . You have done this before and I kept quiet.. don't do it again..I have explained 1 Timothy 6: 1-2 to a muslim yesterday look at my posts from yesterday. ..

yazach:

Yazach here is my reply to you from yesterday...you still haven't answered my question about giving you daughter to a man in his 50s. .here let me quote the reply to refresh your memory on it and timothy 6- 1:2

1st timothy 6: 1-2
1 Let as many servants as are under the yoke count their own masters worthy of all honour, that the name of God and his doctrine be not blasphemed.

2 And they that have believing masters, let them not despise them, because they are brethren; but rather do them service, because they are faithful and beloved, partakers of the benefit. These things teach and exhort.


Notice he said. .."under the yoke" which connotates oppression meaning he understood the situation of the slaves. Mohammed never made such a comment. He endorsed slavery,breeding of slaves, sex with slaves and traded slaves himself.

Yazach what would u have expected to have been said in 1st Timothy... would you have been happy if the slaves were commanded to Rise up and kill their masters. Christainity preaches peace no matter your situation. U muslims never understand that.


I asked you a question would u give your 6 year old daughter to marry a man in his 50s who already had several wives and sex slaves and who would Later disvi.rgin her at age 9 please answer this before I answer the question you gave me as a reply.

This is the full passage please tell me where slavery is supported like u keep saying

1 Timothy 6 King James Version (KJV)

1 Let as many servants as are under the yoke count their own masters worthy of all honour, that the name of God and his doctrine be not blasphemed.

2 And they that have believing masters, let them not despise them, because they are brethren; but rather do them service, because they are faithful and beloved, partakers of the benefit. These things teach and exhort.

3 If any man teach otherwise, and consent not to wholesome words, even the words of our Lord Jesus Christ, and to the doctrine which is according to godliness;

4 He is proud, knowing nothing, but doting about questions and strifes of words, whereof cometh envy, strife, railings, evil surmisings,

5 Perverse disputings of men of corrupt minds, and destitute of the truth, supposing that gain is godliness: from such withdraw thyself.

6 But godliness with contentment is great gain.

7 For we brought nothing into this world, and it is certain we can carry nothing out.

8 And having food and raiment let us be therewith content.

9 But they that will be rich fall into temptation and a snare, and into many foolish and hurtful lusts, which drown men in destruction and perdition.

10 For the love of money is the root of all evil: which while some coveted after, they have erred from the faith, and pierced themselves through with many sorrows.

11 But thou, O man of God, flee these things; and follow after righteousness, godliness, faith, love, patience, meekness.

12 Fight the good fight of faith, lay hold on eternal life, whereunto thou art also called, and hast professed a good profession before many witnesses.

13 I give thee charge in the sight of God, who quickeneth all things, and before Christ Jesus, who before Pontius Pilate witnessed a good confession;

14 That thou keep this commandment without spot, unrebukable, until the appearing of our Lord Jesus Christ:

15 Which in his times he shall shew, who is the blessed and only Potentate, the King of kings, and Lord of lords;

16 Who only hath immortality, dwelling in the light which no man can approach unto; whom no man hath seen, nor can see: to whom be honour and power everlasting. Amen.

17 Charge them that are rich in this world, that they be not highminded, nor trust in uncertain riches, but in the living God, who giveth us richly all things to enjoy;

18 That they do good, that they be rich in good works, ready to distribute, willing to communicate;

19 Laying up in store for themselves a good foundation against the time to come, that they may lay hold on eternal life.

20 O Timothy, keep that which is committed to thy trust, avoiding profane and vain babblings, and oppositions of science falsely so called:

21 Which some professing have erred concerning the faith. Grace be with thee. Amen.

yazach:

You also accused me of not knowing what the anti christ is. .. most Muslims deny that Islam is the anti christ and I explained it to you. ..I haven't gotten an explanation on how Islam and Mohammed are not anti christs.. here please refresh your memory. .

the anti christ is a term used to warn us christains of people like Mohammed, Joseph Smith etc


1John 4:15 Whosoever shall confess that Jesus is the Son of God, God dwelleth in him, and he in God.


1 John 2:22 Who is a liar but he that denieth that Jesus is the Christ? He is antichrist, that denieth the Father and the Son. 23 Whosoever denieth the Son, the same hath not the Father: [(but) he that acknowledgeth the Son hath the Father also]

Jesus is the Son of God, or denies that Jesus Christ IS come in the flesh, or denies that Jesus is the Christ (anointed one). Every person that denies the Son, does not have the Father and is antichrist, and also is an antichrist.

However, the single most egregious - and only unforgivable sin - in Muhammad's religion is committed, if a Muslim were to confess that Jesus is the Son of God. A sin worse than child rape or cold-blooded murder. Isnt thatt taught as shirk in Islam my friend.


Sura 19:88 They say: "(Allah) Most Gracious has begotten a son!" 89 Indeed ye have put forth a thing most monstrous!


Surah 9.30The Jews call 'Uzair a son of God, and the Christians call Christ the Son of God. That is a saying from their mouth; (In this) they but imitate what the Unbelievers of old used to say. God's curse be on them: how they are deluded away from the Truth! Surah 9.30"

Need I say more. Islam is an anti christ.

yazach you also said,"Your explanation is baseless because you are only trying to abandon Old testament laws ..."

I have explained that verse you quoted .. You quoted the texts without understanding the context. .when Christ said he came to fulfil the old testament so that all will be accomplished he was right and at his death on the cross he said, " it is finished" the old law was gone at that point. .. that's why we have the new testament just as God planned. God never makes mistakes or decieves.
Here let me refresh your memory on that verse

"Surprise Surprise" . Another muslim quotes the bible out of context. Well NO its not a surprise. The level of ignorance u Muslims exhibit is shocking. Classic strawman. U make a false assumption and attack it thinking u are making a point while u only exhibit ur ignorance for basic theology and clear passages.

You said,"LoL. Well you try for your ill-self explanation and as a result, I will comment on just two of your statement"

Well my friend my explanation was honest, accurate and with enough details and authentic verses to back it up. I know why u decided to "address" the 2 statements, which coincidentally are associated with christainity, its because u can't even address the terrible amount of vices in your quran and hadiths with my emphasis on the inhumane treatment of slaves by Mohammed as commanded by his Allah. This is the typical muslim.

You also said,"Firstly,
@bold, are you opposing Jesus by the statement in bold red color? :-"

I affirm and support everything Jesus teaches. I really won't bother explaining that verse Matthew 5:17-18 in depth to u because my effort will be wasted on you but nevertheless I will give u a brief insight.
Jesus said, "“Do not think that I have come to abolish the Law or the Prophets; I have not come to abolish them but to fulfill them. For truly I tell you, until heaven and earth disappear, not the smallest letter, not the least stroke of a pen, will by any means disappear from the Law UNTIL EVERYTHING IS ACCOMPLISHED". He was crucified, died and was resurrected and hence paid the price for the sins of those who accept him hence ACCOMPLISHING EVERYTHING as prophesied. There is more theological meaning to this like; Jesus illustrates the Law by doing as the real Law requires, in contrast to how many Pharisees were living but I won't go into it. In addition St Paul a literate Jewish scholar, guided by the holy spirit and who understood the scripture wrote in Galatians 3:23-25;
Before the coming of this faith, we were held in custody under the law, locked up until the faith that was to come would be revealed. So the law was our guardian until Christ came that we might be justified by faith. Now that this faith has come, we are no longer under a guardian."

So u see my friend, u will never understand this if u remain under the bondage of Islam and closeminded thinking.

Then you said,"Secondly,
Thank God you accept that bible also support slavery, but I notice a kind of hidden in you statements that it is mentioned in Old testament This makes me laugh."

Wow.. Now u are making a fool of yourself and on top of that you are now lying...and Your English is getting more difficult to understand. Look at what I said in that my previous comment and I quote it back to you, "...Your heart is darken and it is difficult to understand the message of God, the bible does not support slavery but gave commands for their fair treatment"
So u see u are really confused. But I won't blame you. Its the lying spirit of Islam in you.

Then you said' " Apart from the fact that Jesus did not come to abolish those laws, he put it in to practice by:
The servant will be severely punished, for though he knew his duty, he refused to do it."

Be careful what u say about Jesus, even your sources command you to respect him... and saying false things about the Son of God ..well I hope he forgives you.
That passage u quoted Luke 12:47-48 is an explanation of the parable of the watchful servant(Luke 12:35-40).
Start from Luke 12:35-40 that's the parable and in Luke 12:41 peter then asks Christ,"Lord does this parable apply to us or do you mean it for everyone" the Christ explains that parable with a metaphorically story about the faithful or unfaithful servant which you quoted ignorantly to try and justify the verses encouraging slavery in your quran.

I really do get tried and bored of correcting u Muslims but I must. No matter how u try, u can never bring the teachings in Christianity to the putrid level of Islam's teachings in the quran and hadiths.

Rilwane. You know reading through the arguments here, particularly urs, am happy to note that u agree that Allah and the God of the Bible are not the same. That said. The very passage of the Bible u read, Numbers explains to u why JEhovah ordered the wiping away of those tribes. The very earth they dwelled in, vomitted them out. But u still go on with u questions. What other answers do u want? Are u talking just for talking sake?