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Re: If Christ Is The True Only Way To Heaven, What Of These People ?? ( Must Read) by ezeeuphemia(f): 6:09pm On May 31, 2015

Chinaimporter:
[b][size=13pt]the story of christ is filled with ancient lies and so are the stories of all other prophets and gods,be he christ, mohammed, budda, shango etc.i dont know how a people of this modern age can still belive this fairy tale stories just becus it was brought to us by the whites.....every religion claims to be the truth and god says he loves us and we must love him back and if we dont, he will put us in hell, i always wonder which kind of love that is and i know only a blood thirsty villan would act like that.

Of all the gods in the world, that of the bible is the most stupid, mad and deranged and i sincerly will never accept him, if salvation is only gotten through him,i choose to go to hell rather than be a slave to such a wicked beast

A beast that would send a bear to eat 52 children for laughing at a bald elijah.
A beast that would drown a whole world that he claim to love and made in his image
A beast that would sanction the massacre rape and murder of women and children by moses.
A beast who build the most horrifying torture chamber to torture those he claim to love because they couldnt belive in him.
A beast that tolorated slavery.
A beast that watched jephtah sacrify his daughter to him as his promise if he wins a war.
A beast that watched the sacrifing of his only begotten son so that he could forgive man by grace.
A beast that watch over all the suffering of the world and does nothing to ameliorate it

I refuse to worship you, you ethernal beast and vile creator, no wonder other angel supported satan in his bid to overthrow you despotic ass........i have chosen my side if the armagadon is ever true....i will ride with lucifer on that day against you army and this time i know we will succeed and put you in the bottomless pit that you created for your beloved ones[/b]s.[/size][/b]

the freedom of speach and madness in nigeria has gotten into your head so badly that you don't even know what you are saying again and even whom you are talking to,just thank your god that we are in time of grace and umerited favour.may God forgive your ignorance I pray

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Re: If Christ Is The True Only Way To Heaven, What Of These People ?? ( Must Read) by ifyjess(f): 6:10pm On May 31, 2015

BigElEddy:
The bible and all other "spiritual" books have too many unanswered question. One of the many reasons many people don't do religion anymore. To me, live your life right and do good by your conscience. If there is a God out there, the only thing he gave to man to guide his ways is his conscience and not any book be it Bible or Quran. If God actually sent us a book he would make it easy for anyone and everyone to understand it easily.

because you don't eat lion,don't mean lion won't eat you.the bible is not just a book,its it content dat carry weight.wen u understand it,it becomes a light to your part

Re: If Christ Is The True Only Way To Heaven, What Of These People ?? ( Must Read) by jkross(m): 6:15pm On May 31, 2015

dexmundo:
their sins were washed by animal blood. And they were only to obey ten commandments to make heaven during their time. But mind you, the bible says in d book of revelation dat jesus is the lamb of God SLAIN FROM D FOUNDATION OF THE WORLD. So christ has always been the way old or new testament. Just dat old testament used symbolic blood of animal while they look forward to his physical death, new testament use faith while looking backward to his death. Abraham and abel were not saved by works of self righteousness, they were saved by works of faith(actions which proved they loved God above anything else). Ask yourself, why did old testament saints resurrect from the grave after the death of Christ according to the book of Matthew? These souls were waiting for Jesus - the ultimate redeemer. Paul says in Hebrew that it was nt possible for blood of bulls to take away sin. All old testament saints where held down until Christ resurrected, they resurrected with him- so he is their savior and our savior too

Animal blood didn't wash their sins away..it was only used for atonement..and atonement doesn't. Mean ur sins are washed..it only covers ur sins...

Re: If Christ Is The True Only Way To Heaven, What Of These People ?? ( Must Read) by 1stola: 6:20pm On May 31, 2015

Iamsynord:
The Bible says No one can reach the Father except through the Father and that unless A Man accepts Christ as his personal Christ and Saviour ,such a person shall not make heaven of have access to Eternal life ( John 3:16) .

My question is,What happened to the Likes of Abraham,David ,Solomon and all these before Christ was born?? What was the Criteria for their own salvation since Christ was not born at the time??
Were they saved By the Good works day did ?? If so,why Do we need Christ in d First place when The People that were born before Christ still made it to Heaven.??

A confused fellow here..Answers are needed pls ??

Jonny was a drunkąrd.

Re: If Christ Is The True Only Way To Heaven, What Of These People ?? ( Must Read) by profb: 6:22pm On May 31, 2015

Chinaimporter:
[b][size=13pt]the story of christ is filled with ancient lies and so are the stories of all other prophets and gods,be he christ, mohammed, budda, shango etc.i dont know how a people of this modern age can still belive this fairy tale stories just becus it was brought to us by the whites.....every religion claims to be the truth and god says he loves us and we must love him back and if we dont, he will put us in hell, i always wonder which kind of love that is and i know only a blood thirsty villan would act like that.

Of all the gods in the world, that of the bible is the most stupid, mad and deranged and i sincerly will never accept him, if salvation is only gotten through him,i choose to go to hell rather than be a slave to such a wicked beast

A beast that would send a bear to eat 52 children for laughing at a bald elijah.
A beast that would drown a whole world that he claim to love and made in his image
A beast that would sanction the massacre rape and murder of women and children by moses.
A beast who build the most horrifying torture chamber to torture those he claim to love because they couldnt belive in him.
A beast that tolorated slavery.
A beast that watched jephtah sacrify his daughter to him as his promise if he wins a war.
A beast that watched the sacrifing of his only begotten son so that he could forgive man by grace.
A beast that watch over all the suffering of the world and does nothing to ameliorate it

I refuse to worship you, you ethernal beast and vile creator, no wonder other angel supported satan in his bid to overthrow you despotic ass........i have chosen my side if the armagadon is ever true....i will ride with lucifer on that day against you army and this time i know we will succeed and put you in the bottomless pit that you created for your beloved ones[/b]s.[/size][/b]

Dear friend, I see you have taken side with these confusion. People before you have said worse things than these. JESUS loves you still.
I see no one can change your mind.
But remember, if you have the opportunity,on your dying bed call on Jesus for mercy and salvation. He will surely save you.
No matter how worse you may be Jesus will save you. And he can help you out of these confusion too.

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Re: If Christ Is The True Only Way To Heaven, What Of These People ?? ( Must Read) by toltee4real: 6:26pm On May 31, 2015

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kimond101:
The reality is what people fail to comprehend is that the one who strive to attain paradise is one who submits to the will of God and do righteous good deeds and avoid ascribing partners in worship with God.
Abraham submitted to the will of God
Joseph submitted to the will of God
David submitted to the will of God
Moses submitted to the will of God
Jesus submitted to the will of God
Muhammad submitted to the will of God
Everyone one of them was sent at a particular time. And whoever follow their way at that time shall not perish but have eternal life if God wills.
None of them ever said you should worship them neither did they call themselves God.
To submit to the will of God alone without ascribing partners with him is only defined by one religion and that is Islam.

Anything contrary to this is misguidance.

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Re: If Christ Is The True Only Way To Heaven, What Of These People ?? ( Must Read) by ambhod: 6:27pm On May 31, 2015

Jesus, after His death decended into hell (not hellfire) 2witness 2 Abraham and everyone in his bossom and thus saved them into God's bossom. Jesus remains d only door 2d father

Re: If Christ Is The True Only Way To Heaven, What Of These People ?? ( Must Read) by Nobody: 6:27pm On May 31, 2015

Chinaimporter:
[b][size=13pt]the story of christ is filled with ancient lies and so are the stories of all other prophets and gods,be he christ, mohammed, budda, shango etc.i dont know how a people of this modern age can still belive this fairy tale stories just becus it was brought to us by the whites.....every religion claims to be the truth and god says he loves us and we must love him back and if we dont, he will put us in hell, i always wonder which kind of love that is and i know only a blood thirsty villan would act like that.

Of all the gods in the world, that of the bible is the most stupid, mad and deranged and i sincerly will never accept him, if salvation is only gotten through him,i choose to go to hell rather than be a slave to such a wicked beast

A beast that would send a bear to eat 52 children for laughing at a bald elijah.
A beast that would drown a whole world that he claim to love and made in his image
A beast that would sanction the massacre rape and murder of women and children by moses.
A beast who build the most horrifying torture chamber to torture those he claim to love because they couldnt belive in him.
A beast that tolorated slavery.
A beast that watched jephtah sacrify his daughter to him as his promise if he wins a war.
A beast that watched the sacrifing of his only begotten son so that he could forgive man by grace.
A beast that watch over all the suffering of the world and does nothing to ameliorate it

I refuse to worship you, you ethernal beast and vile creator, no wonder other angel supported satan in his bid to overthrow you despotic ass........i have chosen my side if the armagadon is ever true....i will ride with lucifer on that day against you army and this time i know we will succeed and put you in the bottomless pit that you created for your beloved ones[/b]s.[/size][/b]

U drink BURUKUTU that is formatted and decay for 365 days under the ground? Even if U don't believe must U insult that way, HE didn't force U to believe either, believe and worship what U want. Provided U have heard, read and know, that's up to U. U will regret Ur statement, mark n store it.

Re: If Christ Is The True Only Way To Heaven, What Of These People ?? ( Must Read) by shineeye1: 6:28pm On May 31, 2015

Christ is not a religionist and never came to form any. Christ is the Sole eternal Spirit of life of whom humanity has much to learn. Gross ignorance of his incarnation and earthly ministry is the reason for disputing questions. Whatever the religion of man, if he is granted to recognize Christ and receive Him, his soul shall experience salvation.

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Re: If Christ Is The True Only Way To Heaven, What Of These People ?? ( Must Read) by Greatfes17: 6:28pm On May 31, 2015

Christ is the ultimate path to heaven but not "ONLY" through him that everyone must be saved.

Those who are not previledged to know him are saved by their good dids and love for one another.

Those who existed before him on earth, were saved through faith, good deeds, and love for one another.

WARNING: pretending you dont know him and hence relying on your good dids, etc. alone for redemption is not enough. Therefore you are almost guaranteed doom. Be aware!!!

Re: If Christ Is The True Only Way To Heaven, What Of These People ?? ( Must Read) by Nobody: 6:28pm On May 31, 2015

cold:
Does this also apply to our ancestors that died before the advent of the white man. Taken into consideration they weren't worshipping the Yahweh deity but had their own gods. Or has their fate been sealed?

lolz, u guys made my day with questions like these. If you read the bible u will see where Christ said, it will be more tolerable for neniveh ppl than it will be for the Israelites during judgement because the Israelites had direct access to God's law, power and miracles but failed to believe. One thing i will make clear from that is that there will be different degree of torment to different folks depending on how much of God you know. The bible also said to whom much is given, much is expected

but for our African forefathers who never knew yaweh, Paul wrote in Romans 2 that those who died without the law, shall perish without the law. He said sinners especially who point fingers at others(e.g. Jews accusing gentiles of sin) and are guilty of same sin they accuse others of are condemned already by their accusations. That's why Christ said, for with what measure you judge, you will be judged also. Those who know God's law will be judged out of the law, those who don't know it in the early ages will be judged without it and condemned too

Re: If Christ Is The True Only Way To Heaven, What Of These People ?? ( Must Read) by Lovine: 6:30pm On May 31, 2015

Jesus is the same God of the Old Testament, the same yesterday, today and forever.

Re: If Christ Is The True Only Way To Heaven, What Of These People ?? ( Must Read) by themodernman: 6:40pm On May 31, 2015

dexmundo:
their sins were washed by animal blood. And they were only to obey ten commandments to make heaven during their time. But mind you, the bible says in d book of revelation dat jesus is the lamb of God SLAIN FROM D FOUNDATION OF THE WORLD. So christ has always been the way old or new testament. Just dat old testament used symbolic blood of animal while they look forward to his physical death, new testament use faith while looking backward to his death. Abraham and abel were not saved by works of self righteousness, they were saved by works of faith(actions which proved they loved God above anything else). Ask yourself, why did old testament saints resurrect from the grave after the death of Christ according to the book of Matthew? These souls were waiting for Jesus - the ultimate redeemer. Paul says in Hebrew that it was nt possible for blood of bulls to take away sin. All old testament saints where held down until Christ resurrected, they resurrected with him- so he is their savior and our savior too

Flesh & blood hath not revealed ds to you but my Father which hath in heaven.

I think the question the OP should ask about is whether those who don't believe in Christ as their Lord and saviour will make heaven? Though it may stir up religious crisis so I'll advise him to ask carefully.

Then I also wanna ask if those that were raised at the death of Christ went up to heaven or were living amongst the people on earth?

Re: If Christ Is The True Only Way To Heaven, What Of These People ?? ( Must Read) by omoayeni1(m): 6:45pm On May 31, 2015

Chinaimporter:
[b][size=13pt]the story of christ is filled with ancient lies and so are the stories of all other prophets and gods,be he christ, mohammed, budda, shango etc.i dont know how a people of this modern age can still belive this fairy tale stories just becus it was brought to us by the whites.....every religion claims to be the truth and god says he loves us and we must love him back and if we dont, he will put us in hell, i always wonder which kind of love that is and i know only a blood thirsty villan would act like that.

Hahahaha, now I known Satan live in mankind, for you to be bLind to this level, anyway you choose a wrong part may God forgive you
Of all the gods in the world, that of the bible is the most stupid, mad and deranged and i sincerly will never accept him, if salvation is only gotten through him,i choose to go to hell rather than be a slave to such a wicked beast

A beast that would send a bear to eat 52 children for laughing at a bald elijah.
A beast that would drown a whole world that he claim to love and made in his image
A beast that would sanction the massacre rape and murder of women and children by moses.
A beast who build the most horrifying torture chamber to torture those he claim to love because they couldnt belive in him.
A beast that tolorated slavery.
A beast that watched jephtah sacrify his daughter to him as his promise if he wins a war.
A beast that watched the sacrifing of his only begotten son so that he could forgive man by grace.
A beast that watch over all the suffering of the world and does nothing to ameliorate it

I refuse to worship you, you ethernal beast and vile creator, no wonder other angel supported satan in his bid to overthrow you despotic ass........i have chosen my side if the armagadon is ever true....i will ride with lucifer on that day against you army and this time i know we will succeed and put you in the bottomless pit that you created for your beloved ones[/b]s.[/size][/b]

Re: If Christ Is The True Only Way To Heaven, What Of These People ?? ( Must Read) by MeandSum: 6:46pm On May 31, 2015

Danhumprey:
Do we have real atheist in Nigeria? Or just bunch of confused people parading themselves as atheists?

What would you define as "Real Atheist"? I was a "born again" and I've been an atheist for 20 years. convinced by science and nature.

Re: If Christ Is The True Only Way To Heaven, What Of These People ?? ( Must Read) by Darevofpeace(m): 6:48pm On May 31, 2015

For you peeps that do not believe in the existence of God,I have just one question two questions for you. For always attacking the Supreme being you have never seen and denying his existence, it does shows you believe he is very real and that one day you would be made to face him one on one. To help you,as a person I believe in God because I have seen his power demonstrated in my little life on earth far beyond any religious hearsay. If after my death and I got to heaven and I met God in absence,I. e not existing, I loose nothing but you atheist, here on earth you said he is not real, but if you also die like everyone is destined to, and you got to heaven and you are to face him personally in judgment, Chai! you are in real double suit. Because you are damned already. Shalom.

Re: If Christ Is The True Only Way To Heaven, What Of These People ?? ( Must Read) by akoaki(m): 6:49pm On May 31, 2015

kimond101:
The reality is what people fail to comprehend is that the one who strive to attain paradise is one who submits to the will of God and do righteous good deeds and avoid ascribing partners in worship with God.
Abraham submitted to the will of God
Joseph submitted to the will of God
David submitted to the will of God
Moses submitted to the will of God
Jesus submitted to the will of God
Muhammad submitted to the will of God
Everyone one of them was sent at a particular time. And whoever follow their way at that time shall not perish but have eternal life if God wills.
None of them ever said you should worship them neither did they call themselves God.
To submit to the will of God alone without ascribing partners with him is only defined by one religion and that is Islam.

Thanks for stating that none of the people you mentioned never said people should worship them unlike what we have now where the worshippers relegate God / Jesus and worship their pastors and imams instead.

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Re: If Christ Is The True Only Way To Heaven, What Of These People ?? ( Must Read) by babajero(m): 6:54pm On May 31, 2015

During the time of noah, Abraham, Moses and others it was all man on your own, the man who was righteous enough to follow the ten commandment was saved, and they sometimes kill a little lamb to appease for sin, but Christ didn't die for himself because he has no cause to, but rather he died for us, and went to get the key of life that was stolen by Satan from Adam, Jesus was never a prophet, He was the word of Jehovah in flesh, and can never be compared to anyone else, tell me any other person both in the bible and any other religious book who was sinless apart from Christ.

Re: If Christ Is The True Only Way To Heaven, What Of These People ?? ( Must Read) by omoayeni1(m): 6:57pm On May 31, 2015

Chinaimporter:
[b][size=13pt]the story of christ is filled with ancient lies and so are the stories of all other prophets and gods,be he christ, mohammed, budda, shango etc.i dont know how a people of this modern age can still belive this fairy tale stories just becus it was brought to us by the whites.....every religion claims to be the truth and god says he loves us and we must love him back and if we dont, he will put us in hell, i always wonder which kind of love that is and i know only a blood thirsty villan would act like that.

Of all the gods in the world, that of the bible is the most stupid, mad and deranged and i sincerly will never accept him, if salvation is only gotten through him,i choose to go to hell rather than be a slave to such a wicked beast

A beast that would send a bear to eat 52 children for laughing at a bald elijah.
A beast that would drown a whole world that he claim to love and made in his image
A beast that would sanction the massacre rape and
murder of women and children by moses.
A beast who build the most horrifying torture chamber to torture those he claim to love because they couldnt belive in him.
A beast that tolorated slavery.
A beast that watched jephtah sacrify his daughter to him as his promise if he wins a war.
A beast that watched the sacrifing of his only begotten son so that he could forgive man by grace.
A beast that watch over all the suffering of the world and does nothing to ameliorate it

I refuse to worship you, you ethernal beast and vile creator, no wonder other angel supported satan in his bid to overthrow you despotic ass........i have chosen my side if the armagadon is ever true....i will ride with lucifer on that day against you army and this time i know we will succeed and put you in the bottomless pit that you created for your beloved ones[/b]s.[/size][/b]

Hahaha, now I know devil dwell in some people heart, how can you be blind folded to this level any you choose what you want may God forgive you

Re: If Christ Is The True Only Way To Heaven, What Of These People ?? ( Must Read) by Maximus85(m): 6:59pm On May 31, 2015

Mellin:
trash!!!!

Jesus once said the truth will sound trash to you. A prophecy is being fulfilled by you. Praise God.

Re: If Christ Is The True Only Way To Heaven, What Of These People ?? ( Must Read) by dbaptist1(m): 7:02pm On May 31, 2015

We can chat on whatsapp if u still wanna know.
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Re: If Christ Is The True Only Way To Heaven, What Of These People ?? ( Must Read) by Maximus85(m): 7:02pm On May 31, 2015

Darevofpeace:
For you peeps that do not believe in the existence of God,I have just one question two questions for you. For always attacking the Supreme being you have never seen and denying his existence, it does shows you believe he is very real and that one day you would be made to face him one on one. To help you,as a person I believe in God because I have seen his power demonstrated in my little life on earth far beyond any religious hearsay. If after my death and I got to heaven and I met God in absence,I. e not existing, I loose nothing but you atheist, here on earth you said he is not real, but if you also die like everyone is destined to, and you got to heaven and you are to face him personally in judgment, Chai! you are in real double suit. Because you are damned already. Shalom.

No one is damned. Is cursing him the best way to help? He's just misunderstanding some basic truth in the Bible. Condeming his is not the right thing.
Patiently help him see and learn. That was how Jesus did his own ministration.

Re: If Christ Is The True Only Way To Heaven, What Of These People ?? ( Must Read) by Maximus85(m): 7:07pm On May 31, 2015

dexmundo:
lolz, u guys made my day with questions like these. If you read the bible u will see where Christ said, it will be more tolerable for neniveh ppl than it will be for the Israelites during judgement because the Israelites had direct access to God's law, power and miracles but failed to believe. One thing i will make clear from that is that there will be different degree of torment to different folks depending on how much of God you know. The bible also said to whom much is given, much is expected

but for our African forefathers who never knew yaweh, Paul wrote in Romans 2 that those who died without the law, shall perish without the law. He said sinners especially who point fingers at others(e.g. Jews accusing gentiles of sin) and are guilty of same sin they accuse others of are condemned already by their accusations. That's why Christ said, for with what measure you judge, you will be judged also. Those who know God's law will be judged out of the law, those who don't know it in the early ages will be judged without it and condemned too

Then, who are the unrighteous to be resurrected as recorded in Act 24:15? How can you say God will destroy those he didn't give any law that died innocently without law. Is that the kind of cruel and wicked God you're worshipping? Do you know anything about the Millennial reign? If you do, what do you think God wants to do with these 1000years.

Re: If Christ Is The True Only Way To Heaven, What Of These People ?? ( Must Read) by akoaki(m): 7:14pm On May 31, 2015

Greatfes17:
Christ is the ultimate path to heaven but not "ONLY" through him that everyone must be saved.

Those who are not previledged to know him are saved by their good dids and love for one another.

Those who existed before him on earth, were saved through faith, good deeds, and love for one another.

WARNING: pretending you dont know him and hence relying on your good dids, etc. alone for redemption is not enough. Therefore you are almost guaranteed doom. Be aware!!!

Does this imply that muslims who didn't confess and profess Jesus will go to hell? I am reluctant to believe this because Mohammed was also believed to have been sent by God. I think having a sound direct relationship with God is what matters and not how many churches or mosques you have attended or how big or expensive your worship garment is. Todays' worshippers have been developing relationships with the church and their pastors rather than establishing rappor with the Almighty. Modern day pastors and imams have done too much damage to the scriptures and have continued to mislead their lazy followers whose major sickness is unwilligness to read the holy books to acquire knowledge about what God demands of man. I recall that the bible says that 'my people are perished because they lack knowledge'.

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Re: If Christ Is The True Only Way To Heaven, What Of These People ?? ( Must Read) by dapsonlou(m): 7:14pm On May 31, 2015

dexmundo:
their sins were washed by animal blood. And they were only to obey ten commandments to make heaven during their time. But mind you, the bible says in d book of revelation dat jesus is the lamb of God SLAIN FROM D FOUNDATION OF THE WORLD. So christ has always been the way old or new testament. Just dat old testament used symbolic blood of animal while they look forward to his physical death, new testament use faith while looking backward to his death. Abraham and abel were not saved by works of self righteousness, they were saved by works of faith(actions which proved they loved God above anything else). Ask yourself, why did old testament saints resurrect from the grave after the death of Christ according to the book of Matthew? These souls were waiting for Jesus - the ultimate redeemer. Paul says in Hebrew that it was nt possible for blood of bulls to take away sin. All old testament saints where held down until Christ resurrected, they resurrected with him- so he is their savior and our savior too

All the Old saint were held down till Jesus came? Who told you that and where did you read that. Listen only half minded people believe this craps. If you do Good and believe in God, you will make even. Christians don't have the only key to heavens door. We grow up believing what ever we are thought from Childhood. Be a Good person , trust in God and you will make even. Remember that Jesus followers are the author of Jesus biography. Jesus is a Jew and Jews don't believe in Jesus. If you believe in Jesus make sure you don't forget God also.

Re: If Christ Is The True Only Way To Heaven, What Of These People ?? ( Must Read) by bolajigiwa: 7:16pm On May 31, 2015

akoaki:
Thanks for stating that none of the people you mentioned never said people should worship them unlike what we have now where the worshippers relegate God / Jesus and worship their pastors and imams instead.

You are on point.

Re: If Christ Is The True Only Way To Heaven, What Of These People ?? ( Must Read) by Gideon360t: 7:17pm On May 31, 2015

the scripture says in the book of Mat 11:12 that "starting from the day of John the Baptist the kingdom of God surfers violence and the violence take it by force.
before Jesus the people are save by there works. the example of Moses. he did not finish well but enter Kingdom of God. Elijah. David etc

Re: If Christ Is The True Only Way To Heaven, What Of These People ?? ( Must Read) by Kbraims(m): 7:27pm On May 31, 2015

Vanellope:
The quran is not from God. I know this is not what you want to hear, but it's our duty to tell you this, friend.

Lolz... Realy? Is dat wat u're told in the church.And if u say so den is from who?

Re: If Christ Is The True Only Way To Heaven, What Of These People ?? ( Must Read) by Maximus85(m): 7:29pm On May 31, 2015

thinkingimpact:
I have one question for you and answer it honestly. The US government is known as the most powerful government in the world, theoretically. The question is, will the USA allow outside threats or damages to affect its citizens. Yes or No? Don't waffle about. If your answer is yes , then I'd believe you're being hypocritical. If no, then you should reconsider your statement above.

God gave us all a power of reasoning but we have decided not to use it. We believe only our pastors can understand.

In the garden, satan called God a liar, do you agree? He also insinuated that God is a bad ruler and that he satan can do better? Do you agree? Remember what satan said in the case of job? He said we humans only serve God because of what we get from him. Are you following.

I once wondered why God didn't destroy satan immediately. Then I reasoned, rebellion doesn't just start in a day. Meaning before satan could be able to call God a liar to Eve, he must have planned and not alone but with the help of other angels in heaven.

Once even ate and God got to know that satan instigated it all, hmmmm, instantly he knew that his angel are divided already. Billions of angels for that matter. God wanted to solve the problem in the most sensible way.
He didn't destroy satan and his friends, instead he allowed and is allowing them to prove themselves. So that when he finally destroy him and his demons, the other angels will not have any doubt as to if the claims of Satan is true or not. By this no other rebellion would ever take place in heaven.

Mind you Jesus was there all along, learning from his father in humility.

It's evident that satan has been allowed to control the world ever since then and in fact, we can say that he owns the world. If he doesn't, how can he offer the world to Jesus in the wilderness if he doesn't own it?

So, God is only allowing satan to prove himself. And satan as the Bible says has a very short period of time left. In no time, angel Michael will bound satan and his demons and throw them in a bottomless pit for a thousand year. In this period, the innocent dead ones who didn't have the chance to learn about God will be resurrected and will be taught by the righteous ones.

If you're seeing any sense in what I'm saying I can continue.

Re: If Christ Is The True Only Way To Heaven, What Of These People ?? ( Must Read) by Ultimate001: 7:32pm On May 31, 2015

Iamsynord:
The Bible says No one can reach the Father except through the Father and that unless A Man accepts Christ as his personal Christ and Saviour ,such a person shall not make heaven of have access to Eternal life ( John 3:16) .

My question is,What happened to the Likes of Abraham,David ,Solomon and all these before Christ was born?? What was the Criteria for their own salvation since Christ was not born at the time??
Were they saved By the Good works day did ?? If so,why Do we need Christ in d First place when The People that were born before Christ still made it to Heaven.??

A confused fellow here..Answers are needed pls ??

they were under different dispensations....for instance, Abraham had died bfre the 10 commandments. He had to be judged on d prevailing grounds of his tym. That's d reason u must pay ur tithe; dn't say we r nw in d era of Grace. There ws no law in Abraham's time and yet, he paid his tithes duly. God bless thee..

Re: If Christ Is The True Only Way To Heaven, What Of These People ?? ( Must Read) by charmingeyes(m): 7:41pm On May 31, 2015

BigElEddy:
The bible and all other "spiritual" books have too many unanswered question. One of the many reasons many people don't do religion anymore. To me, live your life right and do good by your conscience. If there is a God out there, the only thing he gave to man to guide his ways is his conscience and not any book be it Bible or Quran. If God actually sent us a book he would make it easy for anyone and everyone to understand it easily.

the Bible was not for u to understand with carnal or human understanding. Implore on and submit to the teaching ability of God through the most Holy Spirit, and He will make all things clear for you.

Re: If Christ Is The True Only Way To Heaven, What Of These People ?? ( Must Read) by Nobody: 7:41pm On May 31, 2015*

Maximus85:
Then, who are the unrighteous to be resurrected as recorded in Act 24:15? How can you say God will destroy those he didn't give any law that died innocently without law. Is that the kind of cruel and wicked God you're worshipping? Do you know anything about the Millennial reign? If you do, what do you think God wants to do with these 1000years.

resurrection of the dead is in three phases:
(1) the old testament saints resurrected from their grave first along with Christ. according to book of Matthew they even appeared to some ppl. Sinners who died before Christ death did not resurrect then

2) the rapture- is the second phase. Paul says, the dead in Christ will rise first, then we who are alive will be caught up to meet them in the air. That is pointing to new testament age believers ie dead in Christ. Note that raptured Christians would be changed before they enter heaven- they won't be flesh cos bible says 'we will be changed at the instant of rapture' and 'flesh and blood can't see God'- so u can't enter heaven without undergoing change

3) the third stage of resurrection is resurrection of all sinners that ever lived from the time of Adam till after the 1000 years reign of Christ on earth. The bible is very clear on this in the book of revelation. This resurrection is immediately followed by physical judgement for all resurrected immortal beings

You must note that once u resurrect u put on angelic form- Jesus said that we will be like the angels in heaven and No more mortality. However, after rapture the Jews will be tortured for 7yrs by 7 nations majorly in the middle east. Christ will come and deliver the Jews by supernaturally destroying their enemy nations. Afterward, saints with new supernatural and angelic form will create a kingdom on earth where Christ rules for 1000years. Sinners in other part of the world will still live for 1007yrs after rapture before they are deceived to engage Christ in the armagedon battle. This battle will lead to the bodily death of all mortal unrepentant sinners. Note that after armagedon war, the third resurrection follows. all beings are immortal after resurrection and will be thrown into lake of fire in their immortal status if guilty of not accepting Jesus

The 1000 yrs of peace and tranquility is a promise made by God to Israel in the last chapters of Isaiah. However, we the translated saints are the ones who will enjoy it in bodily appearance

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