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Re: Before We Forget History: Tinubu CV Vs Saraki CV by aderonila18: 11:35am On Jun 26, 2015
Saraki's end will be like that of all traitors

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Re: Before We Forget History: Tinubu CV Vs Saraki CV by writetopoker: 11:35am On Jun 26, 2015
lolababe331e:


How did Bukola become Governor of Kwara, his father installed him ( he later betrayed his father) Bukola himself is a godfather who has installed his own man as Kwara Governor, what are you talking about.

He isn't fighting godfatherism but for personal ambition
see Amadioha coming.......... By the way wen did personal ambition become a crime. Rmember that so far as ur father is still alive no wan knws u, u ar stll remain son of one.......... We as individual and nation needs complete independency, someone must start a movement and ideology. But beware of Amadiohaoooo
Re: Before We Forget History: Tinubu CV Vs Saraki CV by Rotimi47: 11:36am On Jun 26, 2015
stelaar:
I find it funny that people easily forget and wonder why Bukola Saraki shouldnt be a force to reckon with.

He in his own right can match Tinubu pound for Pound as regards political office, experience and godfatherism.

Tinubu profile vs Sarakis Profile

As Governors

Tinubu : Lagos state governor 1999-2007 (two terms)

Saraki : Kwara state governor 2003-2011 (two terms)

As Senators

Tinubu : Senator 1992

Saraki: Senator 2011-date

Home state influence

Tinubu : Installed successor and lawmakers

Saraki : Also installed successor and lawmakers

Educational Experince

Tinubu : Account

Saraki: Medical Doctor

Addition to Saraki's expericence

- SA to former president obasanjo on budget 2000

-Former Chairman Governors forum.

And people expect this man to bow to Tinubu

Please what does Tinubu want to show or impress saraki with to demand control on him?











You're a joker! Tinubu worked to install over 5 governors, he single handedly survived as the only AD governor for 4 years, he built a new party from the scratch and he was instrumental to bringing several parties together to firm APC. So tell me more about your light weight saraki?
Re: Before We Forget History: Tinubu CV Vs Saraki CV by aderonila18: 11:36am On Jun 26, 2015
writetopoker:
see Amadioha coming.......... By the way wen did personal ambition become a crime. Rmember that so far as ur father is still alive no wan knws u, u ar stll remain son of one.......... We as individual and nation needs complete independency, someone must start a movement and ideology. But beware of Amadiohaoooo

Independence when he himself is a godfather What are you talking about father? Many blame Bukola for his fathers death, his son's betrayal broke the man's heart

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Re: Before We Forget History: Tinubu CV Vs Saraki CV by Kunlexity(m): 11:37am On Jun 26, 2015
muzzol:
Tinubu biggest achievement in politics is that he led an opposition force to form a party and defeated the incumbent.....built and nurtured political parties....moreover, he was in the dungeon during the fight for democracy, hence, he understands the bitter struggle to gain democracy (meaning he will not join force to destroy it).....I doubt if Saraki has ever done any of these.
...To buttress your point and to add to the OP's chagrin,Is there any other Poliitician in APC,that PDP direct their hatred campagns too most during electioneering apart from PMB other than Tinubu? Saraki's name and his sheep-ish cohorts are no where to be found because PDP saw them as light-weight politician that can pose any threat to them.

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Re: Before We Forget History: Tinubu CV Vs Saraki CV by dhorlipizzu(m): 11:38am On Jun 26, 2015
Kolade354:
Jagaban of Borgu,,,,,,,The Lion of Bourdilion,,,,,,,,,,Leader of Common Sense Revolution..........Asiwaju Bola Ahmed Tinubu..............You're my Mentor and Leader...................When Tinubu was struggling for Democracy to Strive in Nigeria Saraki is using Pampers.

Gban!!! Boss u just nailed it.. buh u forgot to add feeding bottle grin cheesy

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Re: Before We Forget History: Tinubu CV Vs Saraki CV by kinibigdeal(m): 11:38am On Jun 26, 2015
redsconsult:
tinubu controls virtually all southwest states and ur judas only control kwara states which is not more than alimosho local govt in population .....

he single handedly rescue u and nigerians from pdp sixteen years impunity and misrule a record never witnessed in the history of nigeria.

he has groom alot of technocrats and otherwise

you can never mention apc, nigeria and democracy in nigeria without highlighting his name.

he has always been the headache of both the military far back babangida and abacha era and also a virus to pdp and jonathan

Jonathan can never sleep without dreaming of Tinubu pursuing him in his dream lol.

16years impunity of PDP!!! Whenever I hear this statement usually from APC folks I cannot but laugh. Can you please explain impunity relating it with PDP 16years rule and tinubu's 16years rule in Lagos. A critical example is your ironic expression. The reason why Nigeria remain where she is today remain the fact that we play opposition politics of interest rather than constructism. We play a politics where we trigger violence to get power, connive with oil marketers to gain to control, destroy pipelines so that we remain stagnant, blackmail our country internationally so that we gain favour, sabotage our military so that we have say etc the combination of the opposition of the said 16years is why we remain where we are and you are happy about it. Whenever, power stabilize to some extent or GEJ government claimed that power has risen to 5000MW, that is when pipelines will be destroyed while power drops to 1500Mw and we are happy we are playing opposition! The compilation of the destructive opposition is what buhari is carrying as a burden and if care is not taken, such destructive criticism will continue. The problem in Nigeria is the compilation of PDP and APC ideologies. Get that point

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Re: Before We Forget History: Tinubu CV Vs Saraki CV by slq(m): 11:39am On Jun 26, 2015
redsconsult:
under the platform of great lion of burdillon.APC did all Nigerians voted for APC. tinubu spearheaded the change.



This right here is the reason the North is hell bent on cutting Tinubu to size.Check ur stats in the previous election CPC floated by Buhari got over a million votes frm the northern states..he repeated it this last election n the wide vote margins from the North won the election..the whole margin frm the southwest was covered jus by the Pdp votes frm Enugu..so do ur maths and stop blowing his trumpet so hard..its affecting how people see him and the North might just restrict his political influence to just Burdillon

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Re: Before We Forget History: Tinubu CV Vs Saraki CV by ocelot2006(m): 11:39am On Jun 26, 2015
It's truly baffling when I see CLOWNS here celebrate godfatherism. The same godfatherism that gave us the likes of Aregberascal the he-goat and co. After y'all scream that "Nigeria isn't working!!".

Pathetic.

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Re: Before We Forget History: Tinubu CV Vs Saraki CV by Omotayor123(f): 11:39am On Jun 26, 2015
1shortblackboy:
I'm not interested in d danm politics I'm interested in good governance and that's what everybody else should be concerned about
You have spoken wisdom #

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Re: Before We Forget History: Tinubu CV Vs Saraki CV by NOTRIBE: 11:39am On Jun 26, 2015
jomoh:


Tinubu helped install the Oba of Lagos against OBJ regim

Tinubu informed and hid Sanusi Lamido Sanusi when he was being chased by GEJ's DSS just before SLS's coronation.

Tinubu hand picked and installed Ogun State governor Ibikunle Amosun

Tinubu hand picked and installed Oyo state Governor Abiola Ajimobi

Tinubu hand picked and installed Osun State governor Rauf Aregbesola


Tinubu hand picked and installed former Ekiti state governor Kayode Fayemi

Tinubu helped install Edo state governor Adams Oshiomole
haa oshiomole? AGBORO GENERAL FOR 8 YEARS, THE MAN THAT SHUT DOWN OBJ GOVT, GAVE HIM SLEEPLESS NIGHTS, THE MAN THAT CRIPPLED "MR.FIX"..CHIEF TONY ANENIH, WHO ONCE DECLARED NO VACANCY IN ASO ROCK AND OTHER STATE HOUSE AND IT HAPPENED.LET IF ADAMS AND TINIBU WRESTLE IN NATIONAL POLITICS....TINUBU WILL FALL FLAT!
OKOROCHA...HEHE GUY WAKE UP OOO...first wen tinubu test national meat see as the guy don get diarrhoea
Tinubu helped install Imo state governor Rochas Okorocha

Tinubu governed Lagos state mostly without federal allocation

Ultimately Tinubu was the major pillar behind PMB against the almighty Kwankwaso, Atiku and against the Hawks of PDP and GEJ led government's assaults.

So when the history of Nigeria is being written, Tinubu's name will always be on the good side of history unlike Saraki who will always be in the wrong books of Economic and Financial Crimes Commission (EFCC)
and the wrong side of Moral code, TREACHERY.

Saraki might have won the battle but the war is not yet finished so don't celebrate.

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Re: Before We Forget History: Tinubu CV Vs Saraki CV by mbolajide2010: 11:40am On Jun 26, 2015
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muzzol:
Tinubu biggest achievement in politics is that he led an opposition force to form a party and defeated the incumbent.....built and nurtured political parties....moreover, he was in the dungeon during the fight for democracy, hence, he understands the bitter struggle to gain democracy (meaning he will not join force to destroy it).....I doubt if Saraki has ever done any of these.

Thank you my brother.

The op is confused and hence could not understand the difference between local and regional champion.Does Saraki command the same respect in the north central as Tinubu in the south west?

What most of you dont understand is that there are many people with same ambition fighting Tinubu in this case - Saraki, Atiku, Tambuwal and possibly kwanwaso. They all have the ambition of becoming the president comes 2019. At the end of the day Tinubu would emerge the winner, if the power couldn't be returned back to the south, Tinubu would prefer someone like el-rufai and at the end of the day they all lost.

But i still give to Tinubu here because despite the combined forces his preferred candidates still emerged as the APC candidates, only for the combined forces to team up with PDP which Tinubu does not have power over.

Most people are irritated with the man's achievements in politics, but i believe he is far better than the likes of Saraki and Atiku. They are all selfish but Tinubu does put general interest above his own interest - one could conclude from the APC primary. Even if he wouldnt have won the primary, he would have preferred a northern who he can control he definitely knew that he can't control Buhari. Can the same be said of Saraki and Atiku.

Also, the op didnt compare them in terms of whom they control. Tinubu control about four governors and the V.P, while Saraki control just one governor.

Take it or leave it Tinubu is the most intelligent politician in Nigeria, he may not be the most influential but defintely not in the category of Saraki.

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Re: Before We Forget History: Tinubu CV Vs Saraki CV by wiseoneking: 11:41am On Jun 26, 2015
redsconsult:
tinubu controls virtually all southwest states and ur judas only control kwara states which is not more than alimosho local govt in population .....

he single handedly rescue u and nigerians from pdp sixteen years impunity and misrule a record never witnessed in the history of nigeria.

he has groom alot of technocrats and otherwise

you can never mention apc, nigeria and democracy in nigeria without highlighting his name.

he has always been the headache of both the military far back babangida and abacha era and also a virus to pdp and jonathan

Jonathan can never sleep without dreaming of Tinubu pursuing him in his dream lol.
Tinubu controls all the SW states? Are SWners stooges for one man to control a whole race. You are even putting it as achievement

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Re: Before We Forget History: Tinubu CV Vs Saraki CV by NOTRIBE: 11:41am On Jun 26, 2015
jomoh:


Tinubu helped install the Oba of Lagos against OBJ regim

Tinubu informed and hid Sanusi Lamido Sanusi when he was being chased by GEJ's DSS just before SLS's coronation.

Tinubu hand picked and installed Ogun State governor Ibikunle Amosun

Tinubu hand picked and installed Oyo state Governor Abiola Ajimobi

Tinubu hand picked and installed Osun State governor Rauf Aregbesola

Tinubu helped install Edo state governor Adams Oshiomole
haa oshiomole? AGBORO GENERAL FOR 8 YEARS, THE MAN THAT SHUT DOWN OBJ GOVT, GAVE HIM SLEEPLESS NIGHTS, THE MAN THAT CRIPPLED "MR.FIX"..CHIEF TONY ANENIH, WHO ONCE DECLARED NO VACANCY IN ASO ROCK AND OTHER STATE HOUSE AND IT HAPPENED.LET IF ADAMS AND TINIBU WRESTLE IN NATIONAL POLITICS....TINUBU WILL FALL FLAT!
OKOROCHA...HEHE GUY WAKE UP OOO...first wen tinubu test national meat see as the guy don get diarrhoea
Tinubu helped install Imo state governor Rochas Okorocha


Tinubu hand picked and installed former Ekiti state governor Kayode Fayemi

[s]Tinubu helped install Edo state governor Adams Oshiomole[/s]
haa oshiomole? AGBORO GENERAL FOR 8 YEARS, THE MAN THAT SHUT DOWN OBJ GOVT, GAVE HIM SLEEPLESS NIGHTS, THE MAN THAT CRIPPLED "MR.FIX"..CHIEF TONY ANENIH, WHO ONCE DECLARED NO VACANCY IN ASO ROCK AND OTHER STATE HOUSE AND IT HAPPENED.LET IF ADAMS AND TINIBU WRESTLE IN NATIONAL POLITICS....TINUBU WILL FALL FLAT!
OKOROCHA...HEHE GUY WAKE UP OOO...first wen tinubu test national meat see as the guy don get diarrhoea
Tinubu helped install Imo state governor Rochas Okorocha

Tinubu governed Lagos state mostly without federal allocation

Ultimately Tinubu was the major pillar behind PMB against the almighty Kwankwaso, Atiku and against the Hawks of PDP and GEJ led government's assaults.

So when the history of Nigeria is being written, Tinubu's name will always be on the good side of history unlike Saraki who will always be in the wrong books of Economic and Financial Crimes Commission (EFCC)
and the wrong side of Moral code, TREACHERY.

Saraki might have won the battle but the war is not yet finished so don't celebrate.

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Re: Before We Forget History: Tinubu CV Vs Saraki CV by knowme(m): 11:42am On Jun 26, 2015
muzzol:
Tinubu biggest achievement in politics is that he led an opposition force to form a party and defeated the incumbent.....built and nurtured political parties....moreover, he was in the dungeon during the fight for democracy, hence, he understands the bitter struggle to gain democracy (meaning he will not join force to destroy it).....I doubt if Saraki has ever done any of these.

The defeat of the PDP came as a result of the defection of the 5 state governors that was spearheaded by Saraki, if Saraki was not in that alliance it would have been a difficult one for the APC, its because of that influence that the APC got Kano and some other states in the North that are known as PDP states, so we should not forget that, and one of the problems this party has always had is the lack of internal democracy, we thought there was a change when they conducted a beautiful Primary election, but afterwards we are seeing different things and for those that want to take position with the Asiwaju group, what will you do if the Presidents wants to do something for the masses and the party says its not right ? our loyalty should be with the country not the party.

Lets wait and have Saraki make a mistake or go against the populace then we can go for his head so far he has done well with the constitution of a panel to look into their salaries and allowances.
Re: Before We Forget History: Tinubu CV Vs Saraki CV by lifeisshort1: 11:43am On Jun 26, 2015
Like most people have said, its a very big insult to compare tinubu with bukky (thats what they call him in kwara). Bukky started his political career in 2003 for crying out loud. And thats thanka to his dad, olusola saraki.
Forget, bukky was a baby when tinubu was running things at the national level during d NADECO era .

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Re: Before We Forget History: Tinubu CV Vs Saraki CV by aderonila18: 11:43am On Jun 26, 2015
ocelot2006:
It's truly baffling when I see CLOWNS here celebrate godfatherism. The same godfatherism that gave us the likes of Aregberascal the he-goat and co. After y'all scream that "Nigeria isn't working!!".

Pathetic.


You don't celebrate godfatherism but you are celebrating Saraki who was installed by a godfather and has installed his own candidate in Kwara therefor he is a godfather himself. See the contradiction

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Re: Before We Forget History: Tinubu CV Vs Saraki CV by Ghost01(m): 11:44am On Jun 26, 2015
The Jagaban built his own political structures from the scratch. The Ijaya himself. Belittle him at your own peril. Kashamu acknowledged that much in the open letter he penned after PMB's victory.

People wey no sabi go just dey shout Tinubu this, Tinubu that. Y'all better go and sit down!

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Re: Before We Forget History: Tinubu CV Vs Saraki CV by ekiloui(f): 11:45am On Jun 26, 2015
OduaVanguard:


Gosh! How many times must I repeat myself about this point! I repeat, hopefully for the last time, that Tinubu controls THE APC MACHINERY (NOT PDP MACHINERY) IN THE PDP CONTROLLED STATES IN THE SW. That the APC is not in power in Ekiti and Ondo does not mean that the APC is not on ground /non-existent in those states. It is the APC machinery in those states that I am referring to. Geez! I hope I don't have to repeat myself again on this particular point for goodness sake!

Explain yourself without ranting sir
Re: Before We Forget History: Tinubu CV Vs Saraki CV by redsconsult(m): 11:46am On Jun 26, 2015
kinibigdeal:


16years impunity of PDP!!! Whenever I hear this statement usually from APC folks I cannot but laugh. Can you please explain impunity relating it with PDP 16years rule and tinubu's 16years rule in Lagos. A critical example is your ironic expression. The reason why Nigeria remain where she is today remain the fact that we play opposition politics of interest rather than constructism. We play a politics where we trigger violence to get power, connive with oil marketers to gain to control, destroy pipelines so that we remain stagnant, blackmail our country internationally so that we gain favour, sabotage our military so that we have say etc the combination of the opposition of the said 16years is why we remain where we are and you are happy about it. Whenever, power stabilize to some extent or GEJ government claimed that power has risen to 5000MW, that is when pipelines will be destroyed while power drops to 1500Mw and we are happy we are playing opposition! The compilation of the destructive opposition is what buhari is carrying as a burden and if care is not taken, such destructive criticism will continue. The problem in Nigeria is the compilation of PDP and APC ideologies. Get that point
thats the more reason why we say jonathan is clueless because he knew all this was going on and he cant use his power according to constitution of the federal republic of Nigeria to put a stop to it and jail any one found guilty, u were comparing tinubu adminsration to jonathan adminstration , i think u ve also forgotten so quick that the same pdp adminstration starved this same tinubu of funds for so many years still lagos still survive. he raised the igr of lagos to over 20 billion naira a month making lagos self sustaining. he created the model of lagos that fashola built on that we are now witnessing. he created a platform called apc that took away power from pdp. i think you should also ve asked jonathan or pdp their greatest fear during their adminstartion they will tell you its the lion of burdilon chasing them everywhere they go.
Re: Before We Forget History: Tinubu CV Vs Saraki CV by lifeisshort1: 11:47am On Jun 26, 2015
Even during the 2011 elections, the then kwara state ACN candidate, dele belgore was supposed to have won against bukky's candidate, abdulfatai ahmed.it was pdp 's machinery of rigging that brought him in.
Re: Before We Forget History: Tinubu CV Vs Saraki CV by basilo101: 11:49am On Jun 26, 2015
OduaVanguard:


You obviously have comprehension issues. I repeat that Tinubu controls the entire APC machinery of the SW (the ruling PDP states of Ekiti and Ondo inclusive -- APC has two out of the three Ondo senators at the upper house and could even win the next governorship election). That Fayose rules Ekiti as a PDP governor has NOTHING to do with the APC machinery of the states -- they two entirely separate issues, punk!

Again, I repeat that you have comprehension issues. In the senate, Saraki had to beg for the SS/SE support coz he lacked majority votes from the SW, NW, NE, and NC Senators of the APC at the Senate, that was why Ndume lost to Ekweremadu coz there weren't enough APC senators present to vote for him -- the PDP senators simply overwhelmed the APC ones present at that point in time.

Dogara also got most of his vote from the SS/SE and SW PDP and few opposition parties reps like Accord and Labour. He simply lacked enough APC reps. Votes to get a convincing win like Tambuwal did before him (he won by about 6 votes, most of which came from the SS/SE, the overwhelming majority of NW, SW, NC and some NE votes went to Gbaja).

You are not the first to predict that his career will end as a result of a political setback, many said same after APC lost Ekiti only for them to retain Osun in spite of GEJ's militarization of that election and went on to defeat GEJ despite Federal might.

As for Osun, Aregbe will not be impeached and will serve out his remaining 3yr term, and regardless Osun will never go PDP so keep dreaming.

Keep hating APC bro, but be assured it will spend at least the next16yrs in power whether you like it or not cheesy
u ppl r jst being st.upid by saying that Tinubu defeated GEJ. Dats y d north will kip punishing u. Hw cn u claim u defeated GEJ with a margin of 600k votes which GEJ got frm one state in se/ss?
Re: Before We Forget History: Tinubu CV Vs Saraki CV by Nobody: 11:49am On Jun 26, 2015
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Re: Before We Forget History: Tinubu CV Vs Saraki CV by UncleJudax(m): 11:49am On Jun 26, 2015
ayusco85:


But saraki knew all these b4 he decamped to APC..... Tinubu is the leader of the party and mastermind of the merger, saraki is a beneficiary of such merger, so he ought to listen to his leader Tinubu.

The Party comes first b4 an individual
Saraki left PDP, because of his over ambitiousness. However, if he had stayed in PDP, he would still be a Senator. So, Tinubu didn't do him any favours. He owes him nothing!
You may be right about him going against party principles though, but this won't be his first (nor last), and APC knew him before now.

The gist is that Saraki has done his homework. He anticipated that plenty of senators wont be coming back, and that APC was the hottest 'track' in town, which would give him the perfect platform to 'steal the show'.

It is working like magic, at least for now.
Re: Before We Forget History: Tinubu CV Vs Saraki CV by mikolo80: 11:49am On Jun 26, 2015
1shortblackboy:
and i'm saying we have too much problems for us to be concerned about their fighting we need them to stop fighting and start representing us. we send dem go there go fight?
Yes o God don answer my prayers send angel of chaos in dia midst so them no go fit block buhari moves abeg make dem elephants fight,so that as them de shitt grass go see small manure chop cos they will have to share the money come next election if they want to continue there as we dem don put spotlight for dia head,ppl don see say that place sweet so more competition next election more empowerment for the ppl.if them spend hundred last election next one na thousand or we no vote same goes for projects one bore hole road or hospital last time 3 next time.beauty of democracy,slow but it gets there
Re: Before We Forget History: Tinubu CV Vs Saraki CV by writetopoker: 11:49am On Jun 26, 2015
aderonila18:


Independence when he himself is a godfather What are you talking about father? Many blame Bukola for his fathers death, his son's betrayal broke the man's heart
pls lts get somtin clear, what is ur point now.? All this god fatherism were by one old stalwat is excessively enriched is encourage is it wat u encourage, pls be straight to d point. I need ur own mind or point off view not long analisis of hw it was bf then it remains that way. Pls ur personal conclusion
Re: Before We Forget History: Tinubu CV Vs Saraki CV by bogolobango(m): 11:50am On Jun 26, 2015
JAGABAN FOR LIFE
Re: Before We Forget History: Tinubu CV Vs Saraki CV by iamjoey: 11:50am On Jun 26, 2015
Abi na
Re: Before We Forget History: Tinubu CV Vs Saraki CV by redsconsult(m): 11:51am On Jun 26, 2015
peedeeasobie:






He single handedly rescued who? Guy are you ok?
Its appalling when an educated person talks like this?

What did he rescue us from? Check the apc states and tell me what we should emulate from them!
Their citizens are suffering like the rest, what stands them out?

What is the magical difference btw apc states and Pdp states?
Its simply a change from one party to another, simple. No difference, no rescue!

If he single handedly installed the new president, why is he finding it hard to install the senate president, and speaker and even principal officers in the NASS?

He is in control only in Lagos state- WAKE UP!
cos the pdp led govt have deatroyed everything you may think of. the difference are there for you to see if you move around and between the so called states. very soon you will start to witness the change only if you are blind and belong to the flat headed group
Re: Before We Forget History: Tinubu CV Vs Saraki CV by redsconsult(m): 11:54am On Jun 26, 2015
papoose999:
d aboki used sw 4 d electn bro most top shots re being filled up wit pple 4rm d north
that is also the situation when jonathan was there but the difference is that jonathan insisted on the corrupt set of people from his region which later had gross effect on his adminstration.
Re: Before We Forget History: Tinubu CV Vs Saraki CV by Wildrage: 11:55am On Jun 26, 2015
One can't help but notice the slavish mentality of Nigerians, majority making bondage look so cool. Reading through this thread, you come away with the mental image of slaves in different camps trashing and tearing at each other to determine which of their slave masters is more obnoxiously exploitative.

The question is, does it really matter which of these despicable characters is more influential in trading the people's interest for personal aggrandizement?
Re: Before We Forget History: Tinubu CV Vs Saraki CV by redsconsult(m): 11:55am On Jun 26, 2015
cktheluckyman:

Bros you seem to forget Saraki was also among those who made APC victorious during the last election
how winning only his state or what else also did kwara produce 2million votes ...abeg park well

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