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Re: See Pics Of South Africa's BRT Bus Stops And Roads In Joburg by SkyBlue1: 9:28pm On Oct 25, 2015 |
Ballmer: In regards to the part in bold, with all due respect to you, you don't know what you're talking about. SA infrastructure is much better than Nigeria true, but not Europe, to even suggest that sounds ignorant. Take just rail as an example. . . . I don't want to get into this on this thread but do your research. And also explore out of Jo,Burg. It is such a silly statement to make. 1 Like |
Re: See Pics Of South Africa's BRT Bus Stops And Roads In Joburg by gbokukueba(m): 9:33pm On Oct 25, 2015 |
NewNigeriaMind: There are no provinces in Johannesburg because it is in Gauteng province. There are 7 Provinces in South Africa more like states in Nigeria so please correct your earlier statement |
Re: See Pics Of South Africa's BRT Bus Stops And Roads In Joburg by BOWOTO(m): 9:37pm On Oct 25, 2015 |
SkyBlue1:You should use Google more. |
Re: See Pics Of South Africa's BRT Bus Stops And Roads In Joburg by SkyBlue1: 9:39pm On Oct 25, 2015 |
BOWOTO:Yes, that explains everything. |
Re: See Pics Of South Africa's BRT Bus Stops And Roads In Joburg by Nobody: 9:41pm On Oct 25, 2015 |
more pictures of nigeria [abj] for the dunce that just discovered paved roads today after leaving ajegunle straight to SA 3 Likes |
Re: See Pics Of South Africa's BRT Bus Stops And Roads In Joburg by shigoslim(m): 9:42pm On Oct 25, 2015 |
mumu @OP |
Re: See Pics Of South Africa's BRT Bus Stops And Roads In Joburg by Nobody: 9:42pm On Oct 25, 2015 |
gbokukueba:that guy has not entered an airplane before 1 Like |
Re: See Pics Of South Africa's BRT Bus Stops And Roads In Joburg by OreMI22: 9:42pm On Oct 25, 2015 |
[size=15pt] NewNigeriaMind:[/size] I just had to re-quote you. Your post is apt and truthful. Nigerian government as usual are dishing out fake data in Africa. Unfortunately, the joke is on nigeria |
Re: See Pics Of South Africa's BRT Bus Stops And Roads In Joburg by SkyBlue1: 9:45pm On Oct 25, 2015 |
iterator24: I see what you're trying to do but it really isn't necessary. South African cities have better infrastructure than Nigerian ones, there is no need even arguing it, it is just the fact, patriotism doesn't mean one has to be blind to the truth. And please, Nigerians need to stop defining infrastructure with pictures of people's big houses and the same roads seen over and over again, it is embarassing. 11 Likes 1 Share |
Re: See Pics Of South Africa's BRT Bus Stops And Roads In Joburg by Nobody: 9:49pm On Oct 25, 2015 |
SkyBlue1:guy, i currently reside in SA, and i admit it that they have far better infrastructure than nigeria and i've never claimed otherwise .. OP made it seem as if we don't have paved roads.. really? 2 Likes |
Re: See Pics Of South Africa's BRT Bus Stops And Roads In Joburg by Nobody: 9:49pm On Oct 25, 2015 |
OreMI22:so, IMF / WORLD BANK data is fake? 5 Likes |
Re: See Pics Of South Africa's BRT Bus Stops And Roads In Joburg by coolbreeze44: 9:49pm On Oct 25, 2015 |
Rossikk:Can't you make your point without insults. Your arguement is valid but you don't sound literate. 2 Likes |
Re: See Pics Of South Africa's BRT Bus Stops And Roads In Joburg by WIZGUY69(m): 9:49pm On Oct 25, 2015 |
Op. there's a difference BTW biggest economy & most developed, they are not the same. no doubt SA is the most advanced country in Africa, but according to records from our govt. we have the biggest economy. in terms of infrastructures, Nigeria is really lagging behind. even most Asian countries are now leaving the status. look at small Seoul for example, very organised clean and beautiful city. I will keep saying it, we have only two city in Nigeria. (Lagos & abuja) the rest are larger towns & villages. 3 Likes |
Re: See Pics Of South Africa's BRT Bus Stops And Roads In Joburg by Flyoruboy(m): 9:53pm On Oct 25, 2015 |
Symphony007: Fvck the imperialist IMF and World Bank. We're talking about the same duo that wrecked the country's economy and oversaw the looting of billions of dollars worth of funds? You must be out of your mind. |
Re: See Pics Of South Africa's BRT Bus Stops And Roads In Joburg by Rossikk(m): 9:56pm On Oct 25, 2015 |
OreMI22: [size=15pt]No no no, actually the joke is on YOU, as you're showcasing your ILLITERACY before the whole world. The GDP (know what that is?) rebasing, which led to the new GDP figures of $520 billion was arrived at after studies conducted by the National Office of Statistics working in conjunction with the World Bank, UN, ADB, IMF and other international agencies. It wasn't something cooked up by the Nigerian govt. You would know this if you weren't an IGNORAMUS. Also, the size of an economy is based on GDP calculations. GDP means the sum total of all economic activities taking place in a nation in a given year. This has nothing to do with infrastructure, beauty of cities, or smoothness of roads. The problem with most Nigerians like you is that you know very little, yet think you know it all. Instead of badmouthing your country, GO AND STUDY and learn about basic economics like GDP, so you don't end up embarrassing yourselves online.[/size] 8 Likes 1 Share |
Re: See Pics Of South Africa's BRT Bus Stops And Roads In Joburg by Rossikk(m): 10:00pm On Oct 25, 2015 |
coolbreeze44: Why is it that whenever one of you ILLITERATES insults Nigeria or Nigerians, you expect to be treated with calm and respect? Was the op calm and respectful when he derided and insulted Nigeria in his original post? Why did you not tell him to take it easy? Only when we rebuff your ILLITERACY and stinking INFERIORITY COMPLEX you remember we should be ''calm'' and ''respectful'' to you. GET LOST. If you don't respect Nigeria, we don't respect you! 5 Likes |
Re: See Pics Of South Africa's BRT Bus Stops And Roads In Joburg by NewNigeriaMind: 10:09pm On Oct 25, 2015 |
tdayof: Pride based on no substance is what is holding Nigeria back as a country The only state in Nigeria with a functional BRT is Lagos and when compared with the only country that share similar characteristics I am ashamed of what we called a BRT system. I feel if our administrators can take a lesson from this Africa country we may actually make progress. Like I said, I am not going to use the UK or Canada cause I believe they have hundreds of years ahead of a US. My reason for coming to this country is partly to see what standard other Africa country operate, leave out what I do for a living. We you and I will only stop the stupid pride in us and see that Nigeria needs a lot of serious minded Administrator to do the right thing we might just be able to return the pride of the black man 7 Likes 1 Share |
Re: See Pics Of South Africa's BRT Bus Stops And Roads In Joburg by BOWOTO(m): 10:09pm On Oct 25, 2015 |
SkyBlue1:You gotta give it to South Africa , they have done well. |
Re: See Pics Of South Africa's BRT Bus Stops And Roads In Joburg by Abagworo(m): 10:11pm On Oct 25, 2015 |
BOWOTO: Cape Town is too organised to be credited to black Africans. I often wonder if Cape Town is even in Sub Saharan Africa. 3 Likes |
Re: See Pics Of South Africa's BRT Bus Stops And Roads In Joburg by SkyBlue1: 10:12pm On Oct 25, 2015 |
BOWOTO: Not disagreeing, but saying their infrastructural development is on par with Europe is silly. Even America is not up to Europe when it comes to certain infrastructure (public trasnport being one). |
Re: See Pics Of South Africa's BRT Bus Stops And Roads In Joburg by Abagworo(m): 10:14pm On Oct 25, 2015 |
Rossikk: Does GDP correlate with standard of living and infrastructural development? I pray the rebasing wasn't fraudulent but our quality of living is one of the lowest in the world. 1 Like |
Re: See Pics Of South Africa's BRT Bus Stops And Roads In Joburg by NewNigeriaMind: 10:16pm On Oct 25, 2015 |
iterator24: I am a Nigeria myself and I pride myself on that fact, in fact I don't waste time to tell these people here I am a Nigerian. Let me put it this way, the infrastructure gap between us and SA is too wide. The only good roads are tolled in Nigeria while Joburg had just the same roads in better shape all over the city. Imagine a Lagos where all the roads are on the standard of the ikoyi lekki link bridge road, when I say all Lagos I mean from Iyana Iba to Okota to oshodi to Ajegunle to Badagry to Ikorodu. I have not seen a pothole in this city and I wonder if the administrators of the country are aliens in Africa. For Africa standard this country is way ahead. 4 Likes |
Re: See Pics Of South Africa's BRT Bus Stops And Roads In Joburg by Nobody: 10:19pm On Oct 25, 2015 |
NewNigeriaMind: Nigeria like many african countries were exploited and left with little or nothing to write about, not even infrastructure / technology transfer.. while SA was built as a base for themselves [whites] because of the mineral riches and they never had blacks [SA] in mind when they were doing this..in fact, if not for the world, they would have exterminated them... whatever you see, or whatever they've built since 94 is majorly maintaince and improvement of standards set by the boers.. .. of course, this is not an excuse for us as at 2015, however in my opinion, we've done well than many african countries! appreciate that! |
Re: See Pics Of South Africa's BRT Bus Stops And Roads In Joburg by Rossikk(m): 10:19pm On Oct 25, 2015 |
BOWOTO: The only reason South Africa are more advanced than any country in Africa is that the colonialists who seized the country in the 19th century RE-INVESTED the proceeds from their export trade BACK into the country. This they did because they saw themselves as permanent settlers there. In other colonies like Nigeria, Congo, Ghana, Sierra Leone etc, the colonialists simply evacuated resources and SIPHONED the proceeds to their home countries to enrich their own nations. Thus by the 1940s South Africa was already a developed country with top notch infrastructure, countless universities, a manufacturing industry, and a large middle class. Nigeria as late as 1960 had not one single expressway, not one university, not one power plant, and not one major hospital. Same applied to the other colonies. Therefore South Africa had a HEAD-START of over 100 yrs plus, over other African nations. That is the ONLY REASON we are playing catch-up with them today. 5 Likes |
Re: See Pics Of South Africa's BRT Bus Stops And Roads In Joburg by agabaI23(m): 10:20pm On Oct 25, 2015 |
oduastates:But if the money stolen by Tinubu and co were plowed into the roads, it would be better. Let me give you a tip...Do you know how many keke's there are in Lagos who pay 300 naira or more daily? Do you know how many buses that pay about 1k daily? So when a certain ex governor takes tuesday collection and an incubent gets thursday, the rest shared for some other stakeholders... maybe just a few days left for government purse out of which contracts like N78 million for a personal website is awarded. You can imagine how much Nigeria is bleeding. Not just Lagos state. 5 Likes |
Re: See Pics Of South Africa's BRT Bus Stops And Roads In Joburg by NewNigeriaMind: 10:22pm On Oct 25, 2015 |
SkyBlue1: I studied finance in school and I am a consultant right now working as a financial consultant to a bank. The catch in every economic theory is how you measure policy performance vis-à-vis impact on the people living standard. What we should be celebrating is not Nigeria having a bigger economy on paper in which the bulk of the wealth is stored away in politicians offshore accounts, rather how has the big economy lead to improvement in the life of an AVERAGE NIGERIAN. This country may not have the biggest economy but the wealth of the country can actually been seen as an improvement in the people living condition. 1 Like |
Re: See Pics Of South Africa's BRT Bus Stops And Roads In Joburg by Nobody: 10:22pm On Oct 25, 2015 |
NewNigeriaMind:ogbeni this is joburg pre-94 |
Re: See Pics Of South Africa's BRT Bus Stops And Roads In Joburg by BOWOTO(m): 10:24pm On Oct 25, 2015 |
Rossikk:How long has it been now? 55 years? and the colonialists are still responsible for our bad roads? bad transportation system? etc... bro I get you're being patriotic, but 100years from now, we would still be behind South africa with the way we are going. 6 Likes |
Re: See Pics Of South Africa's BRT Bus Stops And Roads In Joburg by Ballmer: 10:24pm On Oct 25, 2015 |
SkyBlue1: Am not here to argue what province of South Africa does the rail network not cover ? There's none. If the UK have speed train, how many states is connected to the system. The entire Gauteng province from Preroria to Jo'burg is linked with speed train as its only linked to cities that are profitable with such. I can tell you there's no speed train in Berkshire a city just outside London. I put it to you that every city in SA as beta road network compare to London when you consider traffic n population control. It's impossible for the UK to claim it as a beta town planing structure or housing in comparison with South Africa. Health Aviation Education in fact I can't think of anything UK is beta than South Africa. Do you know SA as its own aircraft manufacturing industry. I put it to you in particular that there's no single place in UK that is beta developed than Capetown. I would have added USA but av not been there before. UK is no more developed or beta developed than the SA chikena. 2 Likes |
Re: See Pics Of South Africa's BRT Bus Stops And Roads In Joburg by SkyBlue1: 10:27pm On Oct 25, 2015 |
Rossikk: I would say we are playing catch up mainly because of bad leadership and poor governance. Colonialism is not to be blamed for everything. In a global sense Nigeria was not the only country that gained independence around that time and left with little to no infrastructure. What is our excuse against the east asian countries? Nigeria was not as heavily affected by the first and second world wars. Other countries had their cities destroyed and rebuilt them, so no I don't always buy into or agree with the "we are not as developed today because of colonialism" no matter how significant a role it has played in the history of the country. 4 Likes |
Re: See Pics Of South Africa's BRT Bus Stops And Roads In Joburg by Nobody: 10:27pm On Oct 25, 2015 |
BOWOTO:why are you talking like you have palm oil in your brain? do you know what nigeria was like 100 years ago? i bet if the afrikaaners left SA like naija, you no go complain now.. SA could have been another congo |
Re: See Pics Of South Africa's BRT Bus Stops And Roads In Joburg by Rossikk(m): 10:27pm On Oct 25, 2015 |
NewNigeriaMind: [size=15pt]Can somebody please shut this illiterate up? You are a ''financial consultant'' yet you measure the size of an economy by looking at the BRT system in Johannesburg? You talk of GDP wealth ''stored away in politicians' offshore accounts''? Which shows you DON'T know the meaning of GDP. Kindly shut your trap and return to secondary school where you belong. Mr 'financial consultant to bank'.[/size] |
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