NewNigeriaMind:


Sorry you have the biggest GDP in Africa..up Nigeria

NewNigeriaMind:



Yes I don't, if you have another opinion state it and stop insulting people because they think their country need to get it right.

The part I don't understand is, WHAT ARE YOU SAD ABOUT?

SkyBlue1:


Guy. Stop. You are back tracking now and taking different tangents. Your original post clearly implied that evidence of Nigeria having a bigger economy than SA were fraudulent and false. You have been corrected, let us move on. If you want to have a different discussion on quality of life and GDP per capita, then that is a different issue. But just for the record, Nigeria has a bigger economy than SA.

iterator24:
why would i be sad? i'm doing great dude!
for one, i didn't carry megaphone when i got here 2years ago to start highlighting the short comings of my country for the world to hear... this country has a history, so does mine.. we're trying and we can do better.. Nigeria still rocks! and [we have pave roads too lol]

Rossikk:


[size=15pt]DUMB AND DUMBER. We don't need your praise. Just go and educate yourself on what an economy means and stop embarrassing us.[/size].

Rossikk:


It's not a question of whether you agree or not. FACT is that South Africa started getting developed as early as the 1850s by the colonialists. Nigeria only began to see real development from 1960 onwards. After independence. THAT'S A FACT. There is no debate about it. Our first power station was Kainji Dam commissioned in 1968. South Africa's first power stations? Do a Google and all you'll see is dates starting from the 1880s.

As for the Asian Tigers. The ONLY reason we have those 4 Asian Tiger economies is that after WW2 the victorious allied nations decided to create a buffer in Asia against rampaging communism led by the victorious Soviet Union. This they did by creating 4 capitalist bulwarks which they funded, invested in heavily, and opened their markets to, in an unprecedented drive to enthrone capitalism.

The artificiality of the situation is easily shown by comparing the 4 tigers to their neighbours. South Korea is a different world from neighbouring Nepal, a third world hellhole. Singapore might as well be on a different planet from neighbouring Burma, a third world hellhole. Hong Kong is a world away from neighbouring Cambodia, a third world hellhole. Taiwan is a different planet from Laos, Vietnam etc. These SE Asian nations are racially, ethnically, and culturally identical, yet their living standards vary wildly. That shows you there is externally influenced artificiality in the economic advancement of the 4 Tiger nations vis a vis the rest.

macklef:
If not for the slave trade thingy which has obviously been eradicated.

I ask myself, why did Nigeria gain independence at all? The britains shoulda ruled us til now
If at all we would gain indelendence october 1st 2025 will be better by den we woulda had a functioning country to admire

NewNigeriaMind:


Why is this personal to you?

And where are you in south Africa. I am yet to meet any Nigerian here. I got four weeks left

NewNigeriaMind:



Yeah there are other observations but the reason for my thread is for the need for infrastructural development in Nigeria, lets catch up with SA in this.

Rossikk:


[size=15pt]Britain ruled Nigeria from 1897 to 1960 and in that period (63 years) buiit NOT ONE UNIVERSITY, NOT ONE POWER PLANT, NOT ONE DUAL CARRIAGEWAY, NOT ONE MAJOR AIRPORT, NOT ONE MAJOR HOSPITAL, NOT ONE MANUFACTURING INDUSTRY. TODAY, AFTER 50 odd years of independence, we count those things in hundreds, courtesy of black rule. LESSON: LEARN TO APPRECIATE THE 'LITTLE' WE HAVE ACCOMPLISHED AND STOP THINKING LIKE A DUMB SLAVE.[/size]

iterator24:
what business have you with where i reside here? just be careful with your life in joburg.. my 2 cents

NewNigeriaMind:


Why is this personal to you?

And where are you in south Africa. I am yet to meet any Nigerian here. I got four weeks left

NewNigeriaMind:
For clerity, I was wrong to say the size of our economy is not what it is.

But my issue is with the fact that the biggest economy in Africa lack basic infrastructure.

I have never really bothered to look at Nigeria from the Africa eye, but now it seem we are not just there

I apologies to the Nigerians that feel insulted by the thread.

I will not post the pictures form the other places I intend to visit going forward.

I am a Nigeria and I am a proud one for that matter

I am going to be in the major cities in the next couple of weeks, if you are naija boy you can send me a message.


FYI made up my mind to visit Kenya next,

SkyBlue1:


And what about countries like Indonesia or Brazil?

Wasn't disputing the fact of early development in SA compared with Nigeria, simply stating that I don't think it is credible anymore to keep using that as an excuse for the level of underdevelopment Nigeria currently is in. And I stand by it.

iterator24:




if you're ready to sort my rent, no yawa

NewNigeriaMind:
FYI made up my mind to visit Kenya next,

Foxflames:
we haven't solved power problem for over 55years. how difficult is it? if it were europeans thay were in Africa, that's more than enough time to solve the isue of power cuts. they will probably generate more and sell to other countries.

wheredemdey:
Its a no brainer

The black man is cursed....when God said He created man in His image...He was referring to the white man......before some mis-informed dolts come and remind their father that SA is an African country....yeah but all the good things were done by the whites...

Its only someone that has not travelled out if this hellhole Nigeria nay Africa that will counter me......black people all over the world are unruly..corrupt...lazy and bereft of any good developmental strides......check out blacks in Cuba...brazil...america...Africa...mexico...the black man is the same....lazy dolts that abandoned their religion..culture...sold their children into slavery...

While you blame Gej...also blame tinubu..fashola and the big head ambode for allowing Lagos to rot considering the IGR and all the monies that come to Lagos on a yearly basis...the city is in shambles....iru and eti-osa lga that generate the bulk of the IGR I left to rot....

Speak no more...the Blackman is a problem to everybody inclusion himself

Ballmer:
I have repeatedly stated this as well most especially when I see Nigerians talk down on South Africa.

If South Africa should stop developing today Nigeria with the rate n governs we have will not catch in a thousand year.

OP you claim you have been to Europe please name a country that is more beautiful than the places you visited in South Africa.

I bet to say there is none. South Africa is country where tarred roads are built to doors of each houses unlike Nigeria that is struggling to build n maintain highways.

I told someone dem no de park shit for SA, the drainage don't smell, you can't even see any. Sewage system is already in place.

OP if you are in doubt of any country in Europe being more beautiful visit Cape Town, water front especially to dispel such believes.

I have never been to the USA but no country in Europe is beta developed than SA. They have functional speed training running from Pretoria to Jo'burg, they have the normal rail.

The airport not so pretty but none can not be compared to those in Nigeria in terms of efficiency. Nigerians make una listen n listen good South Africa n Nigeria no be mate n would never be not in this life except the White do us the favour they did to them.

50 billion Fashola and Akpabios join together can not turn Nigeria to South Africa if they are given a million year. We are talking about your best ever performing governors from APC n PDP.

If any Nigeria care to now every / any where in Capetown is as neat as any Nigeria sitting or living room and am talking about outdoors roads. You'd drive through out the length n breath of South Africa without a single pothole that is as big as the size of an iPad. I never saw one n believe that is the worse you can ever come across.

I have driven with friends from Pretoria to Durban no single pothole about 4 hrs drive, frim Brakenville to Cape Town not a single pothole, from Jo'burg to Pretoria etc

NewNigeriaMind:
For clarity, I was wrong to say the size of our economy is not what it is.

meccuno:
guy calm down na.........the embarrassment is getting too much.......I saw a documentary of SA in the 1920s and they where already a developing Nation, while Nigerians where still swinging on trees......

Rossikk:


Thank You. You should have said this earlier and saved us all the headache!!!!!

Rossikk:


What is so special about Indonesia? They are where Nigeria will be in the next 7-10 years or so. ''Indonesia's estimated gross domestic product (nominal), as of 2014, was US$887 billion. Nominal per capita GDP was US$3,518''. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Indonesia

Nigeria's figures in comparison are $520 billion and $2,750 respectively.

Dude there is mass poverty in Indonesia. Brazil same thing. Those nations just gained independence a couple of decades earlier than Nigeria, so have had more time to build their countries. Plus they had more investment in them during their colonial era, unlike Nigeria where everything was at zero level till independence.

You MUST look ''under the hood'' of EVERY country, to know its history before BLINDLY comparing them to Nigeria. Anything else makes you IGNORANT.

meccuno:
guy calm down na.........the embarrassment is getting too much.......I saw a documentary of SA in the 1920s and they where already a developing Nation, while Nigerians where still swinging on trees......

NewNigeriaMind:


Bro I really have moved from funny shenanigans.

I am to rich for that and too broke to be an Internet warrior insulting people about.

Money must be made.

My point has been made, we have the big gdp and remained backwards. That's the anomaly called Nigeria.

But I believe we will get it right, the truth will set us free soon.

SkyBlue1:


There is massive poverty in China as well so that statement serves little purpose. Yes some of these countries gained independence before Nigeria, but not all the countries mentioned are one of the world's largest exporters of oil, so no I still don't buy the whole 'it is all because of colonialism' idealogy. Investment and infrastructure is not static and can be built on or started from scratch, many countries have shown this.

Rossikk:


Oil only counts for anything if you have a tiny population like UAE or Kuwait. Else it really means nothing. 170 million people in Nigeria export less oil and have less oil reserves than UAE with a population of 9 million. That is why UAE can have a 'Dubai', and everyone there can ride a mercedes. What Nigeria needs to do (and IS doing) is diversify her income sources, as the oil receipts, even without corruption, are negligible when we consider our huge population.