Ballmer:
I have repeatedly stated this as well most especially when I see Nigerians talk down on South Africa.

If South Africa should stop developing today Nigeria with the rate n governs we have will not catch in a thousand year.

OP you claim you have been to Europe please name a country that is more beautiful than the places you visited in South Africa.

I bet to say there is none. South Africa is country where tarred roads are built to doors of each houses unlike Nigeria that is struggling to build n maintain highways.

I told someone dem no de park shit for SA, the drainage don't smell, you can't even see any. Sewage system is already in place.

OP if you are in doubt of any country in Europe being more beautiful visit Cape Town, water front especially to dispel such believes.

I have never been to the USA but no country in Europe is beta developed than SA. They have function speed training running from Pretoria to Jo'burg, they have the normal rail.

The airport not so pretty but none can be compared to it in Nigeria in terms of efficiency. Nigerians make una listen n listen good South Africa n Nigeria no be mate n would never be not in this life except the White do us the favour they did to them.

50 billion Fashola and Akpabios join together can not turn Nigeria to South Africa if they are given a million year. We are talking about your ever beat performing governor.

If any Nigeria care to now every / any where in Capetown is as neat as any Nigeria sitting or living room and am talking about outdoors roads. You'd driving through out the length n breath of South country without a single pothole that is as big as the size of an iPad. I never saw one n believe that is the worse you can ever come across.

I have driven with friends from Pretoria to Durban no one pothole about 4 hrs drive, frim Brakenville to Cape Town not a single pith hole, from Jo'burg to Pretoria etc

NewNigeriaMind:
Notice the yellow lanes for BRT buses only. Also take note of the wideness and cleanness of the roads

[b]I have been to 4 provinces in Joburg and the quality of roads is the same.

[/b]Now, I am yet to see a pothole on any road in the city and this is not an exaggeration but a fact

SkyBlue1:


In regards to the part in bold, with all due respect to you, you don't know what you're talking about. SA infrastructure is much better than Nigeria true, but not Europe, to even suggest that sounds ignorant. Take just rail as an example. . . . I don't want to get into this on this thread but do your research. And also explore out of Jo,Burg. It is such a silly statement to make.

BOWOTO:
You should use Google more.

gbokukueba:


There are no provinces in Johannesburg because it is in Gauteng province. There are 7 Provinces in South Africa more like states in Nigeria so please correct your earlier statement

NewNigeriaMind:
In 2014, the Nigeria government made a dubious claim that Nigeria economy has overtaken that of South Africa.

Like I said then, I am of the opinion that the reason Nigeria government keep getting away with obvious lies is because most Nigerians are not well travelled.

For clerity I have been to major cities in EUROPE but it never bothered me this much that Nigeria is so backward because I believe they have a head start.

Well, I am currently in south Africa and in Johannesburg. This country is 100times ahead of Nigeria in all indices of development.

A comparism of where normal citizens live with the best places the richest Nigerians live in Lagos for instance shows a South African earning a stipend living in Joburg has a better life quality than his Nigerian counterpart with millions.

iterator24:
more pictures of nigeria [abj] for the dunce that just discovered paved roads today after leaving ajegunle straight to SA

SkyBlue1:


I see what you're trying to do but it really isn't necessary. South African cities have better infrastructure than Nigeria ones, there is no need even arguing it, it is just the fact, patriotism doesn't mean one has to be blind to the truth. And please, Nigerians need to stop defining infrastructure with picture of people's big houses and the same roads seen over and over again, it is embarassing.

OreMI22:
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I just had to re-quote you. Your post is apt and truthful. Nigerian government as usual are dishing out fake data in Africa. Unfortunately, the joke is on nigeria

Rossikk:


ANOTHER DUNCE. SHUT YOUR DIRTY MOUTH AND GO LEARN THE MEANING OF AN 'ECONOMY'.

Symphony007:
shut your stinking lying mouth. That is a fact attested by the IMF, world bank and other agencies, did GEJ and iweala infiltrate those too?

OreMI22:


I just had to re-quote you.
Your post is apt and truthful.
Nigerian government as usual are dishing out fake data in Africa.
Unfortunately, the joke is on nigeria

coolbreeze44:
Can't you make your point without insults. Your arguement is valid but you don't sound literate.

tdayof:
use the internet well. Not just coming to spoil the country's name.

SkyBlue1:

Yes, that explains everything.

BOWOTO:
Nigeria cannot be compared to South africa in development, I live in Capetown and I sometime forget I am in Africa, everything is so organized and in order, I feel really bad for my country , it'll take a lot to meet up.

BOWOTO:
You gotta give it to South Africa , they have done well.

Rossikk:


[size=15pt]No no no, actually the joke is on YOU, as you're showcasing your ILLITERACY before the whole world. The GDP (know what that is?) rebasing, which led to the new GDP figures of $520 billion was arrived at after studies conducted by the National Office of Statistics working in conjunction with the World Bank, UN, ADB, IMF and other international agencies. It wasn't something cooked up by the Nigerian govt. You would know this if you weren't an IGNORAMUS. Also, the size of an economy is based on GDP calculations. GDP means the sum total of all economic activities taking place in a nation in a given year. This has nothing to do with infrastructure, beauty of cities, or smoothness of roads.

The problem with most Nigerians like you is that you know very little, yet think you know it all. Instead of badmouthing your country, GO AND STUDY and learn about basic economics like GDP, so you don't end up embarrassing yourselves online.[/size]

iterator24:
e be like say you just travel out for the first time in your life eh? look, nigeria may not match SA in terms of infractructure but it's the best country in the world and i'm coming back home next year.. i'm in SA btw.. don't let pavement fool you, naija sef no bad abeg [without oyinbo o]!

NewNigeriaMind:



Pride based on no substance is what is holding Nigeria back as a country

The only state in Nigeria with a functional BRT is Lagos and when compared with the only country that share similar characteristics I am ashamed of what we called a BRT system. I feel if our administrators can take a lesson from this Africa country we may actually make progress.

Like I said, I am not going to use the UK or Canada cause I believe they have hundreds of years ahead of a US. My reason for coming to this country is partly to see what standard other Africa country operate, leave out what I do for a living.

We you and I will only stop the stupid pride in us and see that Nigeria needs a lot of serious minded Administrator to do the right thing we might just be able to return the pride of the black man

BOWOTO:
You gotta give it to South Africa , they have done well.

oduastates:



Victoria island and ikoyi were destroyed in the 70's.Look closely and what you spot the keys, ipanja and the mushin in the island. Same open gutters, lack of walkways, bus stops, same containers and Pako shacks ,

SkyBlue1:
I don't doubt that Nigeria has a bigger economy than South Africa, and the economy is highly hindered from growing even faster due to poor infrastructure. Economy isn't just about infrastructure (even though this helps immensely), but population also plays a role. Nigeria has the population (market) and the natural and human resources going for it. Is there room for improvement, yes. And just for clarification, Nigeria didn't just overtake SA economy a couple of years ago, it was bigger before then but not fully evaluated, do you know how big the country's informal economy is?

NewNigeriaMind:


I am a Nigeria myself and I pride myself on that fact, in fact I don't waste time to tell these people here I am a Nigerian.

Let me put it this way, the infrastructure gap between us and SA is too wide. The only good roads are tolled in Nigeria while Joburg had just the same roads in better shape all over the city. Imagine a Lagos where all the roads are on the standard of the ikoyi lekki link bridge road, when I say all Lagos I mean from Iyana Iba to Okota to oshodi to Ajegunle to Badagry to Ikorodu. I have not seen a pothole in this city and I wonder if the administrators of the country are aliens in Africa. For Africa standard this country is way ahead.

Rossikk:


The only reason South Africa are more advanced than any country in Africa is that the colonialists who seized the country in the 19th century RE-INVESTED the proceeds from their export trade BACK into the country. This they did because they saw themselves as permanent settlers there. In other colonies like Nigeria, Congo, Ghana, Sierra Leone etc, the colonialists simply evacuated resources and SIPHONED the proceeds to their home countries to enrich their own nations. Thus by the 1940s South Africa was already a developed country with top notch infrastructure, countless universities, a manufacturing industry, and a large middle class. Nigeria as late as 1960 had not one single expressway, not one university, and not one major hospital. Same applied to the other colonies.

Therefore South Africa had a HEAD-START of over 100 yrs plus, over other African nations. THAT IS THE ONLY REASON WE ARE PLAYING CATCH-UP TODAY.

SkyBlue1:


In regards to the part in bold, with all due respect to you, you don't know what you're talking about. SA infrastructure is much better than Nigeria true, but not Europe, to even suggest that sounds ignorant. Take just rail as an example. . . . I don't want to get into this on this thread but do your research. And also explore out of Jo,Burg. It is such a silly statement to make.

Rossikk:


The only reason South Africa are more advanced than any country in Africa is that the colonialists who seized the country in the 19th century RE-INVESTED the proceeds from their export trade BACK into the country. This they did because they saw themselves as permanent settlers there. In other colonies like Nigeria, Congo, Ghana, Sierra Leone etc, the colonialists simply evacuated resources and SIPHONED the proceeds to their home countries to enrich their own nations. Thus by the 1940s South Africa was already a developed country with top notch infrastructure, countless universities, a manufacturing industry, and a large middle class. Nigeria as late as 1960 had not one single expressway, not one university, and not one major hospital. Same applied to the other colonies.

Therefore South Africa had a HEAD-START of over 100 yrs plus, over other African nations. THAT IS THE ONLY REASON WE ARE PLAYING CATCH-UP TODAY.

BOWOTO:
How long has it been now? 55 years? and the colonialists are still responsible for our bad roads? bad transportation system? etc... bro I get you're being patriotic, but 100years from now, we would still be behind South africa with the way we are going.

NewNigeriaMind:


I studied finance in school and I am a consultant right now working as a financial consultant to a bank.

The catch in every economic theory is how you measure policy performance vis-à-vis impact on the people living standard.

What we should be celebrating is not Nigeria having a bigger economy on paper in which the bulk of the wealth is stored away in politicians offshore accounts, rather how has the big economy lead to improvement in the life of an AVERAGE NIGERIAN.

This country may not have the biggest economy but the wealth of the country can actually been seen as an improvement in the people living condition.