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Mindfulness:
Exactly, so what does it tell you about death?

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Worship God as if he exist and if he doesn't, at the end you won't have anything to lose. Along the line live your life to the fullest, enjoy the good moments, take risks, fall in love, sing like no body is listening, dance like no one is watching. Happiness is the soul purpose of our existence.



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It is appointed unto men to die once and after this comes judgment, but the truth is that, the judgment is determined, while u exist here on earth. now lets be more practical immediately the fall of man(the lost of the kingdom), dere has been war between righteousness and evil. the devil was equally sent to this world to posses the world and make sure that the man do not go back to his original position of dominion and authority, now for any spirit man to go back, he must overcome the worldliness of this world( ie the spirit that has possessed the world). remember ur spirit man is the owner of ur body of which u took to exist on this planet earth only, u will not take it to any other place. when u drop this earthly body ur existence continues. now were u will exist next is based on the life u leave while u were in ur earthly body. now if u drink and womanize and did not repent from it, till u drop this ur earthly body ur existence will continue but u will still be looking for alcohol and woman to carry even as u journey, now the spirit that controls those things will now lead u to it which is the devil and that place is called general cell( which is the same as hell except dere is special intervention from the lord of host Jesus ). but if u have put in some effort to do works of righteousness in Christ Jesus, u will be taken to Abraham's bosom, dere u will also meet those u know that were able to make it, u will exist dere till ur ar finally granted access into the kingdom prepared for u by the lord. u see y u must seek first the kingdom of God and its righteousness, and y u suld not gain the whole world and loose ur soul (the spirit man) be wise let no man deceive u, u must understand ur spiritual existence we have dwelled so much in the physical things of this world, but very ignorant about spiritual things, even the spiritual activities of our spirit man. has any scientist been able to give u the full detail of dreams, revelation and visions, these things ar bigger than the man. but today the lord in his program, kingdom age program is to teach the man his spiritual existence in him,u cee y u must be thought.

doneee:
This has really been bothering me lately.


So one day, we'll have to die?

where are we going?
or we just die and it's over?

yes we all die.no life after death. becos all the dead are at sleep till the ressurection

Rossikk:
That is not what the op is talking about. He means what happens right after a person dies a physical death, ie does the consciousness survive?

Much evidence suggests the answer to that is a resounding YES.

lie their is no thought in death go and read your bible. search using kjv bible on your phone.

krattoss:
what happens when chicken and, goats die?

last time I checked, we re all animals but higher ones.

we kill snakes, lions and many others if we catch them. they in turn kill us if they catch and outsmart us.

so if u saying we got afterlife. that means they v got afterlife also.

We are higher than animals. JESUS died for human beings not animals.there will.be ressurection and every man will stand before God . but while one is dead he is sleeping.

Jesus refered to Lazurus as been at sleep

if we are unconscious of our surrounding when at sleep. how much more when we are dead.

johnydon22:

The movement of the earth is an observed fact and with tons of proof supporting it... the Catholic back then is based on the immutable dogmatic doctrines as stipulated by the tenets of their belief...

Evidence supports a thesis not assumptions..




Lmao.. you are not well rooted in science boy, Blackholes are pure observed existential phenomena. … this was exactly why i asked "What is a blackhole" Scientific facts does not need to be believed.. Science do not propose immutable dogmas that must be believed but recognizes chances of being wrong in its thesis.

It was once thought information cannot escape a blackhole just few months ago stephen hawkins proposed it actually can.. know something before employing it desperately in an argument that you have absolutely no basis to stand on

[img]http://smithsonianscience.si.edu/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/2012/05/hires.jpg[/img]

Only a wormhole and a whitehole is unconfirmed in actuality only theoretical and i am not seeing any scientists claim they believe wormholes must exist when it has no evidence in support of it yet...


Lmao... You believe in eternity because someone told you, in fact a primitive book that has not inferred any method or means of deduction and you clutch on to it whether it is true or not.

when science proposes a thesis, it propounds demonstrative means of deductions... So i would be waiting for yours.

Our God told us so we believe, mind telling us what this God sounds like when he was telling you this tale?

Do you have an actual means of demonstrating your claim of God told us?

Until you can throw away assuming up more fantasies like "God told us" to support your fantasy, your arguments will keep sounding like a joke.....

People reading this would be sure to find this quite funny "Our God told us" same thing you claimed was an innate quality..smh

Try harder...

While can science not explain death? there are so.many things science have failed to.explain to us.

johnydon22:

The movement of the earth is an observed fact and with tons of proof supporting it... the Catholic back then is based on the immutable dogmatic doctrines as stipulated by the tenets of their belief...

Evidence supports a thesis not assumptions..




Lmao.. you are not well rooted in science boy, Blackholes are pure observed existential phenomena. … this was exactly why i asked "What is a blackhole" Scientific facts does not need to be believed.. Science do not propose immutable dogmas that must be believed but recognizes chances of being wrong in its thesis.

It was once thought information cannot escape a blackhole just few months ago stephen hawkins proposed it actually can.. know something before employing it desperately in an argument that you have absolutely no basis to stand on

[img]http://smithsonianscience.si.edu/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/2012/05/hires.jpg[/img]

Only a wormhole and a whitehole is unconfirmed in actuality only theoretical and i am not seeing any scientists claim they believe wormholes must exist when it has no evidence in support of it yet...


Lmao... You believe in eternity because someone told you, in fact a primitive book that has not inferred any method or means of deduction and you clutch on to it whether it is true or not.

when science proposes a thesis, it propounds demonstrative means of deductions... So i would be waiting for yours.

Our God told us so we believe, mind telling us what this God sounds like when he was telling you this tale?

Do you have an actual means of demonstrating your claim of God told us?

Until you can throw away assuming up more fantasies like "God told us" to support your fantasy, your arguments will keep sounding like a joke.....

People reading this would be sure to find this quite funny "Our God told us" same thing you claimed was an innate quality..smh

Try harder...

Scientifically accurate statements on the
Scriptures which pre-dated man's ability
to have discovered those truths for
himself. Spericity of Earth, hydroligical
cycle. an existance of an atmosphere,
The Lord's understanding of the
digestive process, are just a few
concept which the bible reveals which
predated man's ability to discover these
truths for himself

aaronson:
As an atheist who subscribe to evidence before belief, I 'd say the best way to determine the truth in life after death is you killing yourself to test it .

Atheist are crap.you want evidence.how many of them have gone to verify what the scientist.is telling them. they believe science.without prove (they should prove radiowaves, and ultrasonic rays)but cannot believe the bible.

the funny thing is most of them are non science students who depend on the science ones to prove and unprove for them .pathetic so if the bible is untrue becos it was written by inspired men of God. so is science books more valid becos they are also written by men.

musicwriter:
Philosophical answer........

You cannot die, in the first place. Even if you wanted you cannot die. Cause there's nothing like death.

What they call death is a change of state, like water in a kettle evaporating into the air in the form of steam. Believe it or not, the water didn't disappear, the water is still there in the air, just you can't see it. This includes all the water you have drank since you was born, all the water you have used to bath, all the water you've thrown away, including those used by your mother and father, your friends, even your ancestors, are still the same water all of use today. All those water didn't die, they didn't even go away. They're still here with us!!. It's just that our senses deceive us sometimes about the nature of reality.

It could also be described as a mirage. Like when you're traveling and keep seeing pool of water in front on the expressway, but when you get there you see no water.

Where were you before you was born?. Were you dead?.

Scientific answer....

Ultimately, the smallest thing in our universe are photons and quartz. And that's what atoms themselves are made of.

And we know atoms are 99% empty space. So, literally, you're not a solid, but an illusion of solid.

Quartz and photons pass through walls like Harry Potter would in the movie, they pass though iron, flesh of humans, water, anything!. They are zooming through all of us and everything else everywhere in the universe. You're literally breathing quartz and photons where you are now and they will continue zooming through you, even if you die the so called death. They will continue zooming through your last decaying teeth and will eventually go non physical, when there's no physical object for them to pass through.

Quartz and photons are eternal, intelligent, conscious, they're in everywhere at all time (omnipresent). We also possess these qualities, because that's what we're made of in the first place. Therefore, we're eternal and literally small Gods ourselves. All these confirmed by all the quantum physics.

Like the water and steam example above, death is just an evaporation of quartz and photons into the non physical realm of existence. We're already in eternity now.

See below videos.

The nature of reality, spirituality, and quantum physics.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MwT2_dovG9M

Eternity explained by science not religion.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a_ZyaBlM0Bc

so while burials since people evaporate.

nwaanambra1:
no bro!

lets stop deluding ourselves.

after death - its a total state of non existence. nothing! we just cease to exist. it all ends.

So the wicked people will go unpunished.?
lie. after death there is resurrection and a day of judgement

IYANGBALI:
abeg me i no wan die o,if i die,na wetin go happen to vickyrotex,freeglobe,rokiatu,mukina2,prettythicksme,edwife,funjosh,eleko1,seun and all my enemies on nairaland?na who dem go dey fight?

Die! Die! Die!

Weah96:
Are babies not conscious? Is a schizo or autistic person not conscious? Is an old person with Alzheimer's not conscious? You appear to have a predetermined definition of consciousness which revolves around the ability to solve problems. What is known as the "problem solving consciousness" is but one of the forms in which consciousness can manifest itself. There are other levels, including sleep which is erroneously deemed an unconscious state. The first person observer in dreams is a living human person. Always.

Remember when Descartes said "I think therefore, I AM," that was his signature way of letting you know that you are alive when you dream. Now, do schizos think or do they know that they think? I believe so, even if we don't all agree with the outcome of their thoughts. A madman walks around naked not because he isn't thinking but because his own consciousness doesn't give an eff about the feelings of other people.

oh god . . .
anyway, let's make this a lot easier on both parties. so, i'm going to ask you a question. do you believe that consciousness is the product of the physical system, i.e the brain and the neurons there in, or the product of the spiritual system, i.e the soul/spirit ?

blueAgent:
Atheist are crap.you want evidence.how many of them have gone to verify what the scientist.is telling them. they believe science.without prove (they should prove radiowaves, and ultrasonic rays)but cannot believe the bible.

the funny thing is most of them are non science students who depend on the science ones to prove and unprove for them .pathetic so if the bible is untrue becos it was written by inspired men of God. so is science books more valid becos they are also written by men.

With the Algorithm E=MC2, I can honestly tell you, the energy you put to occupying this space of written nonsense should be relative to today's 21st century post modernism thinking man if really you a thinking man, but otherwise, keep up with your 6000 years ago belief.

No, like the light bulb , you die is over.

blueAgent:
so while burials since people evaporate.

The body itself is just a carton, like a carton of biscuit. It's not the real stuff. The real stuff is the biscuit inside.

What do you do when you buy a carton of biscuit and finish eating it?. Do you keep the carton?.

You can bury the carton, you can throw it away, you can burn it.

rogerz:
Microsoft deleted files goto Recycle Bin b4 its permanently deleted. Lol

If you delete it from recycled bin, where does it go?

blueAgent:
So the wicked people will go unpunished.?
lie. after death there is resurrection and a day of judgement

wtf? lol.

so you want the afterlife to exist so "wicked people" will go unpunished? why not just punish them here on earth?

johnydon22:

The movement of the earth is an observed fact and with tons of proof supporting it... the Catholic back then is based on the immutable dogmatic doctrines as stipulated by the tenets of their belief...

Evidence supports a thesis not assumptions..




Lmao.. you are not well rooted in science boy, Blackholes are pure observed existential phenomena. … this was exactly why i asked "What is a blackhole" Scientific facts does not need to be believed.. Science do not propose immutable dogmas that must be believed but recognizes chances of being wrong in its thesis.

It was once thought information cannot escape a blackhole just few months ago stephen hawkins proposed it actually can.. know something before employing it desperately in an argument that you have absolutely no basis to stand on

[img]http://smithsonianscience.si.edu/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/2012/05/hires.jpg[/img]

Only a wormhole and a whitehole is unconfirmed in actuality only theoretical and i am not seeing any scientists claim they believe wormholes must exist when it has no evidence in support of it yet...


Lmao... You believe in eternity because someone told you, in fact a primitive book that has not inferred any method or means of deduction and you clutch on to it whether it is true or not.

when science proposes a thesis, it propounds demonstrative means of deductions... So i would be waiting for yours.

Our God told us so we believe, mind telling us what this God sounds like when he was telling you this tale?

Do you have an actual means of demonstrating your claim of God told us?

Until you can throw away assuming up more fantasies like "God told us" to support your fantasy, your arguments will keep sounding like a joke.....

People reading this would be sure to find this quite funny "Our God told us" same thing you claimed was an innate quality..smh

Try harder...

One day you will believe in Him

doneee:
This has really been bothering me lately.


So one day, we'll have to die?

where are we going?
or we just die and it's over?

there are many questions in dis life dat we can nver find answers to dem.eg

(1) like asking urself where were u bf ur mother gave birth to you?

(2) who is God?

(3) how did God came into existence? Etc
Trying to find answers to dem will only mks ur life miserable because death itself is wat no one can avoid or ran fm it.
Just as u did not know wn u cam into dis world desame way u will not know wn u will die or where u we be after death,so do urself a favour by letting de slpn dog to lie, because NO ONE is 100% sure of de answers to ur questions.
The only tin is to live ur life as it pleases u n be urself,dnt be too good or too bad, do tins at de appropriate time, dnt blame odas f ur failure, dnt put ur trust in any man, hv a mind of ur own, believe watever u wnt to believe n be conscious of de life u r living because death still awaits u at de end.

johnydon22:



Giving up this earth to chase after afterlife is life giving up a known substance to chase after a wishful shadow...

Long story.

whocanbewho:
let's use simple english here. Can you create something that doesn't exist. He was creates because he wanted him to exist.

Okay, what make you think the enemy called death , cannot return Him to his former non - existence condition ?

Teempakguy:
oh god . . .
anyway, let's make this a lot easier on both parties. so, i'm going to ask you a question. do you believe that consciousness is the product of the physical system, i.e the brain and the neurons there in, or the product of the spiritual system, i.e the soul/spirit ?

I believe that our carbon based life form serves as a receiver for a remote consciousness. We see and think even with our eyes closed, i.e. sleep. The arrangement of this physical system at any moment in time determines the kind of consciousness that you receive. Problem solving consciousness is the most widely approved one, probably because most governments enforce it. Is it the best one? That's for you to decide.

Well, everybody has the right to believe what he or she likes. I believe the bible because everything written in it concearning this present life(even the one's worth experimenting, eg.faith)are no deception,therefore God having never disappointed me i see no reason not to believe any thing written in the bible, including the ressurection of the dead, Christ second coming, His mellinial reign and the great white throne judgement. Mind you: Homo sapiens alone have soul.