Mindfulness:


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Now that was very Jesus like. In case you don't get it, I was being ironic. Do you think fear is a good method of getting people into faith?

omonnakoda:


Just a question about this "Energy cannot be destroyed" mantra

I know a lot of "science" student cite and recite this "LAW" often mindlessly but is there anyway of proving this. I doubt this simply because it is no practicable to experiment on every system where "energy" may exist. Even definitions of energy are unsatisfactory especially where it applies to psychological phenomena

Secondly. I am not a proponent of Life after that but what do you mean by "we are made of energy" does that phrase include such things as consciousness and volition.

I believe there i always a danger of replacing one dogma with another set of poorly understood heuristics. Science often provides us with "MODELS" for understanding the world. It is a danger too, perhaps even worse than the blind follower ship of dogma, to propagate these models as "reality"

wiseoneking:
Fear my foot, time have past when you get people into faith by begging. I am just stating the truth why you are providing the facts. You have enough happenings into todays world and infallible sure prophesies from the Holy writ to get you back to your senseses than your so called fear tricks. I'm not gonna pet you to hell this time arround. I am just been raw to you.

Mindfulness:


It is not a mantra, it is law. Energy can be neither created nor destroyed, it can only be changed from one state to another.



Yes, try to create energy out of nothing or use your remote control to switch on the TV. The energy in the battery will cause an effect. Energy transformed.



This is where it becomes interesting and where quantum physics set in. Everything is made of atoms and atoms are made of vortices of energy that are constantly vibrating and radiating energy. The relation and interplay between consciousness and the insights of quantum physics is a relatively new area of study but since the brain needs energy to be able to work (try not to eat for a week ) we will surely get some more profound insights into how our consciousness works exactly with the help of quantum physics. And I believe that it will be a break through.

If you are interested in the topic, watch this, I think it is good to begin with if you are a newbie into quantum physics:


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DfPeprQ7oGc




VERY TRUE! I am in complete agreement with this statement.

omonnakoda:

I am hoping that we ccan have a thoughtful conversation
Not to slip into the same routine that the Bible merchants will do by quoting the bible.

If indeed quantum physics has absolute truths and answers then You (prumably not a "NEWBIE" should be able t explain them anytime anywhere

You say it is a "LAW"
Please indulge me by defining "LAW" as well as energy.

I asked a few questions which yu have ignored.

Can we test this indestructibility law with regard to the energy that constitutes human existence particularly consciousness?

What has quantum physics been able to add to our knowledge of the mind and other related activity or phenomena like consciousness

omonnakoda:


With respect sir, you talk like an undergraduate who has consumed books very well but has not reflected AT ALL on the limitations of those ideas and models you have learnt

IYANGBALI:
abeg me i no wan die o,if i die,na wetin go happen to vickyrotex,freeglobe,rokiatu,mukina2,prettythicksme,edwife,funjosh,eleko1,seun and all my enemies on nairaland?na who dem go dey fight?

Mindfulness:


I have consumed these books for the pleasure of it and not as a student. I didn't study physics. It would be nice if you were willing to express constructive criticism in the form of statements. All you have done so far was to ask questions. You have not countered any of my points, yet.

omonnakoda:
My starting position is always first to seek to understand . The issue here is about life after death and you ofered an opinion [size=18pt]which seems to suggest[/size] that science has all the answers or that there are scientific laws that are absolute.

With regards to human consciousness there seems to be little doubt in human existence that there is a mind capable of an array of operations and phenomena for which so far there is [size=18pt]no satisfactory explanation[/size] from quantum theoreticians.

So this idea that energy cannot be destroyed is useful for undergraduates taking examinations but practically or even in philosophy is not helpful in explaining what happens to consciousness in sleep death coma or vegetative states. So when you said we are made of energy I was hoping to receive some novel enlightenment.

Therefore we ought to be humble and not believe that because we have read a book we now have knowledge when even the authors of these books would not do so

doneee:
This has really been bothering me lately.


So one day, we'll have to die?

where are we going?
or we just die and it's over?

krattoss:
what happens when chicken and, goats die?

last time I checked, we re all animals but higher ones.

we kill snakes, lions and many others if we catch them. they in turn kill us if they catch and outsmart us.

so if u saying we got afterlife. that means they v got afterlife also.

Mindfulness:


What is so heavy on your heart?

VickyRotex:


Abeg never die o

In whose presence will God prepare my table, if you die?

wiseoneking:
lol, oduduwa, you are a very funny girl. You have millions of such all over the world, even recent ones like mandela, fela, awo, gandhi, jackson, marley, mohamad, kyrstalzkris etc but JESUS OF NAZERETH IS ONLY ONE. He died and rose again. Believe it or leave to your eternal greatest risk.

IYANGBALI:
see your mouth

doneee:
This has really been bothering me lately.


So one day, we'll have to die?

where are we going?
or we just die and it's over?

Krystalzkris:
i'd rather believe in those you listed above. At least,there is plenty of evidence to show they existed. What evidence can u provide for the existence of Jesus except the bible?

krattoss:
what happens when chicken and, goats die?

last time I checked, we re all animals but higher ones.

we kill snakes, lions and many others if we catch them. they in turn kill us if they catch and outsmart us.

so if u saying we got afterlife. that means they v got afterlife also.

johnydon22:
[b]
The thing is like he said people tend to find comfort in that whole concept of passing away and transcending into another life instead of simply dying.

People need such flimsy wishful hopes to cling to because many are not ready to accept the absoluteness of death.

Death simply means inexistence (stop existing). we have not been existing long before this biological machines called body, i wonder how people still in their greed and selfishness think something will still exist after this body... why was that thing not existing before this body?

It is not difficult to understand why we make up these stories for ourselves owing to the fact that we are probably the only specie on this planet that know at a very young age that we are going to die.

Other species just live in the moment, i doubt the dogs and elephants out there are fretting about an afterlife or greedily hoping for another after this one or performing rituals to earn a place.

No they just live in this brief one as they see it

That knowledge of the inevitable end of our being is somewhat of a burden to us and with that comes a need for a hope to cling on even if it is a wishful shadow, even if it is a greedy one.

It has made many people to get lost in the euphoria of their wishful delusion, cus they have not finished living in this one or ever having learnt to live in this one greedily chasing after another and end up having not lived any at all.

So why not we all forget dwelling in these fantasies and focus on where we are now and what we have right now which is here and now.

Giving up this earth to chase after afterlife is life giving up a known substance to chase after a wishful shadow...[/b]

Mindfulness:


What happens to these particles after we die?

benodic:

the answer to the question as i have said several times in this forum lies in understanding the mystery behind sleep and dreams.

where you go and where you find yourself when you are asleep and dreaming holds the key to answering the question of where you will end up when you die.
afterall sleep is just temporal death while death is permanent sleep.

iamlarry:
Bible also proved it in ecclesiastes 9:5,10 the living know they will die buh the dead KNOW NOTHING AT ALL....whatever your hand finds to do,do it with all your might,for there is no work nor planning nor knowledge nor wisdom in the grave where you are going.

nwaanambra1:


see how u r foaming on the mouth for foreign religions that were imposed on you so as to keep you in the dark while you are being exploited and dehumanized.

i hope u knw dat islam is a product of the so-called Christianity - a product of the catholic church to be precise.

Muslim, christian! any form of religion is a big fraud!


But i knw u r too brainwashed to know or understand the truth.

with peeps like you i always feel sorry for the black man! Black man's redemption is still too far away!

krattoss:
what happens when chicken and, goats die?

last time I checked, we re all animals but higher ones.

we kill snakes, lions and many others if we catch them. they in turn kill us if they catch and outsmart us.

so if u saying we got afterlife. that means they v got afterlife also.

all4naija:

They remain part of nature. You can not destroy fundamental particles.

Panshow:

Same way when you delete documents in Microsoft Word. You don't know where it goes.