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Re: Why Do Engineering Students Brag To Know Maths More Dan Mathematics Students by Charly68: 8:19pm On Jan 03, 2016 |
Everything about Engineering is calculation based |
Re: Why Do Engineering Students Brag To Know Maths More Dan Mathematics Students by kayusbrown(m): 8:19pm On Jan 03, 2016 |
This argument is common especially among those who don't know the difference between pure and applied mathematics. I am an Engineer and will never brag that I am better than a Mathematician in his field. Engineers are only exposed to applied mathematics. All mathematics courses in engineering curriculum have their applications in engineering analysis, otherwise they will be irrelevant. Mathematicians on the other hand study both pure and applied maths. Pure maths is best defined as mathematics for the sake of mathematics; no aplication in focus (though outcomes may be applied later, some findings may be purely theoretical and exist only for aesthetics ). Examples of these pure mathematics topics are Groups and Rings, Real Analysis, Complex Analysis, Functional Analysis, Calculus of variation, Lesbeque measure and theory of integration etc. Honestly I was sleeping uncontrollably when I picked one of those Advanced Mathematics textbook to read some of these topics. Most Engineers will also sleep or end up with migraine trying to figure out the essence of the concepts in those topics as an Engineering mind is trained to do. The argument now boils down to which is more difficult? Pure or applied maths? Pure mathematics (mathematics in itself) is more difficult. In fact, all mathematics are pure until their useful application is found. Another thing is when you compare same topics in Engineering mathematics textbooks of K. Stroud and Glyn James with that of textbooks written by pure mathematicians like H.D. Kass and Kreyzig, you'll have a better perspective of why an Engineer should never claim to be a Mathematician. 3 Likes |
Re: Why Do Engineering Students Brag To Know Maths More Dan Mathematics Students by Nobody: 8:20pm On Jan 03, 2016 |
Durentt:ok sir. |
Re: Why Do Engineering Students Brag To Know Maths More Dan Mathematics Students by Nobody: 8:21pm On Jan 03, 2016 |
Electronzeez:bro hear it frm d mouth of an engineering graduate. I bet you'll say d sam wen u graduate |
Re: Why Do Engineering Students Brag To Know Maths More Dan Mathematics Students by Nobody: 8:23pm On Jan 03, 2016 |
CuteEmma:i dnt Want or need u to believe |
Re: Why Do Engineering Students Brag To Know Maths More Dan Mathematics Students by Nobody: 8:25pm On Jan 03, 2016 |
Charly68:does dat mak dem mathematicians? |
Re: Why Do Engineering Students Brag To Know Maths More Dan Mathematics Students by EVarn(m): 8:25pm On Jan 03, 2016 |
martineverest:Their mathematics must be very easy,I have never heard of any committed student trying to read mathematics from a textbook,and yet hoping to understand it.It doesnt work that way. |
Re: Why Do Engineering Students Brag To Know Maths More Dan Mathematics Students by udeh3(m): 8:26pm On Jan 03, 2016 |
Durentt: Ask your lecturers why they love lecturing engineering students than their own students. Back then in school, you see Mech eng and Elect/Elect Eng students blasting 90-98 in any mathematics courses except statistics where they gets 60-70. Engineering students are sharper! I rep Electrical Engineering! |
Re: Why Do Engineering Students Brag To Know Maths More Dan Mathematics Students by Nobody: 8:26pm On Jan 03, 2016 |
Which country? Cos i know for sure its not in Naija... What most engineering students know here is cultism. |
Re: Why Do Engineering Students Brag To Know Maths More Dan Mathematics Students by killsmith(f): 8:28pm On Jan 03, 2016 |
I doubt if this so-called engineers would comprehend the concept of integration....(reimann-stieltjes integral)....just the simple abstraction of the Riemann integration is enough to make them dizzy 1 Like |
Re: Why Do Engineering Students Brag To Know Maths More Dan Mathematics Students by Electronzeez(m): 8:28pm On Jan 03, 2016 |
Durentt: I am graduate of electrical and I am practising , my years in the polytechnic has never been a waste . why don't you ask me what gave birth to my question . There are some engineering courses one can take from our crappy universities and polytechnics that can never be a waste of time except you thought you would be spoon fed before being admitted . |
Re: Why Do Engineering Students Brag To Know Maths More Dan Mathematics Students by Girltee1(f): 8:28pm On Jan 03, 2016 |
Durentt:Almost the same thing. You should come to my school. Engineering students take maths courses from 100-400level. |
Re: Why Do Engineering Students Brag To Know Maths More Dan Mathematics Students by pmann2(m): 8:29pm On Jan 03, 2016 |
MOST ENGINEERING STUDENTS WILL MAKE FIRST CLASS IN MATHEMATICS BUT ONLY FEW MATHEMATICS STUDENTS CAN MAKE FIRST CLASS IN ENGINEERING... ENGINEERING STUDENTS ARE FAR MORE INTELLIGENT THAN MATHEMATICS STUDENTS... TEACH ENGINEERING STUDENT ANY MATHS AND HE/SHE WILL DO WELL IN THAT MATHS... CHECK THE GENERAL MATHEMATICS RESULT OF 100 LEVEL ENGINEERING AND MATHEMATICS STUDENTS AND YOU WILL SURE SEE THE DIFFERENCE... REAL ENGINEERS LOVE AND ADORES MATHEMATICS. |
Re: Why Do Engineering Students Brag To Know Maths More Dan Mathematics Students by Electronzeez(m): 8:29pm On Jan 03, 2016 |
MEKKY77: |
Re: Why Do Engineering Students Brag To Know Maths More Dan Mathematics Students by pmann2(m): 8:31pm On Jan 03, 2016 |
killsmith: If you can comprehend it why do you think an engineer will not?... engineers are intelligent people don't forget that and most engineering courses are mathematically inclined. |
Re: Why Do Engineering Students Brag To Know Maths More Dan Mathematics Students by Raplinx(m): 8:31pm On Jan 03, 2016 |
Girltee1:math is math, yes! Even if they do it, they'll only do the part that suits their application, they can never take it to the core like Mathematics students!! They wont even out do Physicist in Math. |
Re: Why Do Engineering Students Brag To Know Maths More Dan Mathematics Students by martineverest(m): 8:32pm On Jan 03, 2016 |
EVarn:not really, the 5 best students in that course were engineers, who never attended the class. |
Re: Why Do Engineering Students Brag To Know Maths More Dan Mathematics Students by Nobody: 8:32pm On Jan 03, 2016 |
Durentt:I'm an Engineer. |
Re: Why Do Engineering Students Brag To Know Maths More Dan Mathematics Students by elantraceey(f): 8:33pm On Jan 03, 2016 |
Electronzeez: Electrical /electronics engineering. I'm in my finals and aside from being a little grounded in the theorical aspect when it comes to practical what I know are things I learnt during my industrial training. In 100l we did science courses 200l all engineering courses 300l a mixture of Mech and eee courses. 400l just a semester of electrical and electronics courses then in final year you just a semester to major in your main field whether electrical or electronics, now please tell me what one can possibly learn in 3 months alongside project. |
Re: Why Do Engineering Students Brag To Know Maths More Dan Mathematics Students by Nobody: 8:33pm On Jan 03, 2016 |
udeh3:hahaha wen dey give 300lvl engineering students to solve 4x^2-5x-6=0 why wont u reach 90. Guy, engineering stds shud stop gragra and accept they are those better than them 1 Like |
Re: Why Do Engineering Students Brag To Know Maths More Dan Mathematics Students by Nobody: 8:34pm On Jan 03, 2016 |
DeeTus:ok sir |
Re: Why Do Engineering Students Brag To Know Maths More Dan Mathematics Students by emeritus00(m): 8:34pm On Jan 03, 2016 |
It is a known fact that engineering and mathematics go hand in hand. The basic language of engineering is mathematics. If you have the whole lots idea in grammar but failed to express it in mathematics then that is not engineering. It just a mere social science. Problems to be solved by engineers cut across all spheres of human life and nature and can require any forms of mathematical expression that why its imperative for engineers to be grounded in mathematics. Back to issue of engineers claimed to be mathematicians, I may disagree in some quarter but prove it that engineers are in many cases better that mathematicians so to say. I read engineering and took courses in Maths and Stat depts with them up to 300L. Students from engineering scored most of the highest marks in the courses took together be it in algebra, trig and calculus, vector and mechanics, abtract algebra, analysis, ode, numerical etc and some other courses in statistics. I had had opportunity to have discussions and tutorials together, I have respect for very few of them but the truth be told many are far behind. I was wondered why such... reasons being that many failed to secure admissions in their desired dept and end up in maths dept. |
Re: Why Do Engineering Students Brag To Know Maths More Dan Mathematics Students by Nobody: 8:36pm On Jan 03, 2016 |
Girltee1:madam don't say wat u dont know? Hav you started and finish algebra in an engineering class and also started and finish d same algebra in a mathematics class?? Na there u go knw khaki no be leather |
Re: Why Do Engineering Students Brag To Know Maths More Dan Mathematics Students by EVarn(m): 8:37pm On Jan 03, 2016 |
Walelavender:It seem to be a constant phenomenon in most Nigerian universities for civil engineering jorks to be very unruly and uncultured.Many of them go around campus making a public nuisance of themselves,prancing on desks and screaming at the top of their lungs when other people are trying to concentrate on lectures.It is only engineering lecture theatre in unilorin that has broken bulbs,ruined electric sockets,rusted ceiling fans and dismantled air-conditioners,the effect is worsened by thick networks of cobwebs,broken windows and a littered environment.It really doesnt speak well of them. Anyway,Engineers dont do core mathemathics. |
Re: Why Do Engineering Students Brag To Know Maths More Dan Mathematics Students by Girltee1(f): 8:37pm On Jan 03, 2016 |
Raplinx:Physicists also do the part that suits their application. Even if it's only the part that suits our application we do, the fact still remains that we do maths; especially Analysis and Abstract algebra!! |
Re: Why Do Engineering Students Brag To Know Maths More Dan Mathematics Students by CuteEmma(f): 8:38pm On Jan 03, 2016 |
tanimola22:It's very easy to know the people who actually applied from those who were thrown into the department: 1. They've got no idea on why they are there 2. They try to compare their applied and given courses 3. They try to argue that the given course is better than applied course Students who were actually given their courses do not compare, they already virtually everything they need to know about it, and they don't think that any other course is better than theirs because it has been their dream since kindergarten till the day they did their Jamb registration. Yeap.. Only 13 chose it in Jamb (Uniben) last year but up to a hundred were admitted into that department. |
Re: Why Do Engineering Students Brag To Know Maths More Dan Mathematics Students by CuteEmma(f): 8:40pm On Jan 03, 2016 |
Durentt:See your life?? Ode |
Re: Why Do Engineering Students Brag To Know Maths More Dan Mathematics Students by Nobody: 8:40pm On Jan 03, 2016 |
emeritus00:Hahahaha. |
Re: Why Do Engineering Students Brag To Know Maths More Dan Mathematics Students by Nobody: 8:41pm On Jan 03, 2016 |
Electronzeez:by "practising" u mean going around changing bulbs nd sockets? bcuz dats wat i see most elect graduate doing |
Re: Why Do Engineering Students Brag To Know Maths More Dan Mathematics Students by EVarn(m): 8:41pm On Jan 03, 2016 |
martineverest:What can I say?,they had personnal relationships with their lecturers. |
Re: Why Do Engineering Students Brag To Know Maths More Dan Mathematics Students by vislabraye(m): 8:41pm On Jan 03, 2016 |
Gbengem: Exactly. Real Analysis, Compkex Analysis and Advance algebra are core maths courses. I know engineering students who have this mindset too. Even physicists think same too. But that a story for another day. Mathematicians can also solve engineering problems as the apply in mechanics... |
Re: Why Do Engineering Students Brag To Know Maths More Dan Mathematics Students by opeey(m): 8:43pm On Jan 03, 2016 |
Remii: U are true... |
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