Joagbaje:


I've been consistent in what I believe over the. Years. If I have said anything inconsistent I would have appreciate it quoted out. Christians will always have challenge of faith . Paul suffered peril in the sea and peril of false brethren etc. they are challenges of faith .

As much as I don't want to enter this matter I don't think Gombs tried to paint anybody bad in his post. He laid the blame on family members and lawyer who tried to put fire by being wrong influence .

Candour:


Don't hold your breath bro....they'll find words to explain everything.

Its the sheeple we should hope will receive instruction from these issues.

Candour:




You're clutching at straws my friend.

Anita claims she was abused in her marriage. She regrets tolerating abuse for so long in her marriage. Do you need me to tell you who she was married to? So you can know who the abuser she refers to is? If you say oyaks didn't abuse her contrary to what she said, isn't that painting her a liar?

Gombs:


See now, you believed Anita's claims, and you agreed she was abused...

... But Pastor Chris came out, on a certain communion service and told the whole World, before God's Holy Communion and God's people, and said ALL those were not true.

I believed Pastor Chris' Testimony, and you still have a problem with my choice? You believed what you want to, I did... For my reasons, that if pastor Chris were to have lied to the whole world, and God's people, before the bread and wine... And yet God's kept him, for long as till Night Of Bliss South Africa and Ghana, and yet,Did mighty works through him, if he lied and God still kept the church in one piece... Then God must have been biased.

What's your reason for believing Rev Anita? Why do you have a problem with my choice of belief? You can believe whatever you will, but.. Pastor Chris Oyakhilome already told the world it's not true, believe him or not is your prerogative.

Gombs:


See now, you believed Anita's claims, and you agreed she was abused...

... But Pastor Chris came out, on a certain communion service and told the whole World, before God's Holy Communion and God's people, and said ALL those were not true.

I believed Pastor Chris' Testimony, and you still have a problem with my choice? You believed what you want to, I did... For my reasons, that if pastor Chris were to have lied to the whole world, and God's people, before the bread and wine... And yet God's kept him, for long as till Night Of Bliss South Africa and Ghana, and yet,Did mighty works through him, if he lied and God still kept the church in one piece... Then God must have been biased.

What's your reason for believing Rev Anita? Why do you have a problem with my choice of belief? You can believe whatever you will, but.. Pastor Chris Oyakhilome already told the world it's not true, believe him or not is your prerogative.

Candour:

Did oyaks overcome this 'challenge of faith'?

Anita said she was abused. Gombs said oyaks never abused her.
What does that make Anita?

Joagbaje:


Yes of course. The devil plan is to distract his work . Ability to remain focused on your call makes the devil a failure .

I don't want to enter the matter. Abuse is a big vague word. Unless it's narrowed down . Physical ,mental ,verbal , you have your assumption if it's not defined let's leave it. And the fact that someone talks of abuse doesn't mean there was abuse . That's the persons opinion. Until you hear the other side. That's why the bible say we should not busy ourselves with other men matter.

Candour:

What about the marriage? Is he allowed to have marital failure?

So are u also saying she lied against her husband?

Candour:


Which means you now admit you painted Anita a liar? Especially when you absolve pastor Chris of any wrong doing?

As for CEC growing, they're in the same group with militant Islam my friend......THEY'RE BOTH GROWING and the murderers also appeal to familiarity with God to explain it

Joagbaje:


It's not an issue . It's your purpose and calling that counts . Moses once separated from his wife and married an African woman. until his wife was later brought back .That didn't make him a failure . It's your call that counts.

John 6:66
From that time many of his disciples went back, and walked no more with him.

from scripture above Some deciples left Jesus and never came back . That didn't make him a failure .he had a thief as treasurer who later sold him to the enemy . That didn't make him a failure . A man can only fail if he allow his experience to make him loose his focus and ministry. That's a big failure . You don't fail because someone walks away . Paul had close associates who got distracted and left him e.g Demas .

2 Timothy 4:10
For Demas hath forsaken me, having loved this present world, .

Leave husband and wife matter alone . God is the judge of all hearts . Everyone is right in his own eyes[

Gombs:


you just equated the church of God to a militant group... has it gotten this bad with you?

Gombs:


you just equated the church of God to a militant group... has it gotten this bad with you?

Joagbaje:


It's not an issue . It's your purpose and calling that counts . Moses once separated from his wife and married an African woman. until his wife was later brought back .That didn't make him a failure . It's your call that counts.

John 6:66
From that time many of his disciples went back, and walked no more with him.

from scripture above Some deciples left Jesus and never came back . That didn't make him a failure .he had a thief as treasurer who later sold him to the enemy . That didn't make him a failure . A man can only fail if he allow his experience to make him loose his focus and ministry. That's a big failure . You don't fail because someone walks away . Paul had close associates who got distracted and left him e.g Demas .

2 Timothy 4:10
For Demas hath forsaken me, having loved this present world, .

Leave husband and wife matter alone . God is the judge of all hearts . Everyone is right in his own eyes

Candour:


You are free to make claims my friend. Olumba olumba also claims to be a church of God, do you think I should be scared of calling them a cult?

What's the difference between you who mindlessly defends oyaks and militants who mindlessly defend their murderous rampage?

Gombs:


Fine... I now have a confirmation that you equated the church to a Islamic group... Just because I didn't subscribe to your line of reasoning concerning Pastor Chris.

Thanks for the time.

Gombs:


Fine... I now have a confirmation that you equated the church to a Islamic group... Just because I didn't subscribe to your line of reasoning concerning Pastor Chris.

Thanks for the time.

vooks:

Red herrings are your staple; how do you live with yourself? Taking communion and marveling that you haven't died?

LambanoPeace:
Thank you gombs! What I learnt are;

Pastor Anita never accused him of adultery

Pastor Chris didn't divorce his wife

And pastor Chris didn't have any property in his name. (that's some humility). Though someone on here asked how come Anita didn't know this, I think she didn't know these because it wasn't material at the time she was with him, and if he did have, a law firm like her lawyers would have dug it all out.

So, two things.. He'd have lied if he said he didn't have any property to his name, if he actually did, and since the lawyers couldn't find any, I believe the OP.

Also, since she didn't accuse him of adultery, that clears me even further. She left him, he didn't push for a divorce, so in other words, he is not to be blamed.

Was she abused? Well, depending on the context.... it may never be physical abuse, nor even emotional, and even of it's emotional, it could be simply that Pastor Chris ignored her demands and she was pained by it for so long a period up until now. Let's not assume he abused her just because she said so, like gombs said... He's told the whole world he didn't do it, she said she was abused... let God be the judge. Me thinks we should leave this matter be, they've separated already. Life and ministry goes on.

Cheers

Candour:


Gombs, must you sink this low? Is the matter so desperate you had to wake up this your other moniker? You even greeted yourself in the heading??

Kai!!! vooks, see what you're making my friend indulge in!!!

Gombs is now talking to himself

LambanoPeace:
Thank you gombs! What I learnt are;

Pastor Anita never accused him of adultery

Pastor Chris didn't divorce his wife

And pastor Chris didn't have any property in his name. (that's some humility). Though someone on here asked how come Anita didn't know this, I think she didn't know these because it wasn't material at the time she was with him, and if he did have, a law firm like her lawyers would have dug it all out.

So, two things.. He'd have lied if he said he didn't have any property to his name, if he actually did, and since the lawyers couldn't find any, I believe the OP.

Also, since she didn't accuse him of adultery, that clears me even further. She left him, he didn't push for a divorce, so in other words, he is not to be blamed.

Was she abused? Well, depending on the context.... it may never be physical abuse, nor even emotional, and even of it's emotional, it could be simply that Pastor Chris ignored her demands and she was pained by it for so long a period up until now. Let's not assume he abused her just because she said so, like gombs said... He's told the whole world he didn't do it, she said she was abused... let God be the judge. Me thinks we should leave this matter be, they've separated already. Life and ministry goes on.

Cheers

Joagbaje:



YOU ARE A REAL CHRISTIAN JARE

LambanoPeace:
Thank you gombs! What I learnt are;

Pastor Anita never accused him of adultery

Pastor Chris didn't divorce his wife

And pastor Chris didn't have any property in his name. (that's some humility). Though someone on here asked how come Anita didn't know this, I think she didn't know these because it wasn't material at the time she was with him, and if he did have, a law firm like her lawyers would have dug it all out.

So, two things.. He'd have lied if he said he didn't have any property to his name, if he actually did, and since the lawyers couldn't find any, I believe the OP.

Also, since she didn't accuse him of adultery, that clears me even further. She left him, he didn't push for a divorce, so in other words, he is not to be blamed.

Was she abused? Well, depending on the context.... it may never be physical abuse, nor even emotional, and even of it's emotional, it could be simply that Pastor Chris ignored her demands and she was pained by it for so long a period up until now. Let's not assume he abused her just because she said so, like gombs said... He's told the whole world he didn't do it, she said she was abused... let God be the judge. Me thinks we should leave this matter be, they've separated already. Life and ministry goes on.

Cheers

Gombs:


thank you!

Been a while, how's SA?

Image123:
Make una no vex my people as i no get anything to talk for this matter. Just a little rusty, abeg what is the issue about Moses once separated from his wife
and married an African woman. until his wife was
later brought back. i'm not sure i recall this episode, please where's it again, thank you.

Gombs:



Hello buddy, how's you? Guess great! Emmm, about the above, let me oblige you. Let's get going, there are at least 2 sources that tell us that Moses spent some time in Ethiopia and was required to marry their queen.

He did not consummate the relationship ever, as she was not of the covenant. This was the Ethiopian about which Aaron and Miriam complained; maybe because Moses' precedent with her (non-consummation, or at least non-continuance of the relationship) was carried on to virtuous Zipporah as well.

[size=28pt]Zipporah was a Midianite, not an Ethiopian - the other wife was an Ethiopian[/size].

Why did he send her away?

You know she saved moses' life by the circumcision, when God came to whoop him for not circumcising his kid.


"And it came to pass, on the way to the lodging place, that the Lord met him and sought to kill him.

Then Zipporah took a flint and cut off the foreskin of her son and cast it at his feet, and she said: 'Surely a bridegroom of blood art thou to me.'

So he let him alone. Then she said: 'A bridegroom of blood in regard of the circumcision.' "

Now, I still don't know what she meant by the latter part sha, but... She saved Moses, and he went on to lead the Hebrews out of slavery.

However, despite her bravery and quick thinking, Moses doesn't treat Zipporah especially well or act particularly grateful.

Moses sends her and the children away before the Exodus from Egypt. Later, they reunited.

Was she divorced?

Emmm, can't say exactly (if anyone knows that much, let me know), but if the Bible said they reunited later on, and the fact that he remarried, I think it's possible she was divorced or they separated. But, here is what I think...

It's possible that Moses also did not want to take his wife and their two sons to Egypt to avoid giving Pharoah an opportunity to hold them hostage, thus interfering with any negotiating ability of Moses and Aaron, and since he'd be long in Egypt, I think it's logical too.

vooks:

There is no 'other one' just one and the same person

Gombs:


You've been advised severally to leave Bible interpretation for the scripturally sound folks.

Joagbaje:




eni a wi fun oba je o gbo. how can a mouth full of vugarity want to disect holy scripture i mean 'HOLY SCRIPTURES'
can a corrupt tree bring good fruit?

Gombs:


You've been advised severally to leave Bible interpretation for the scripturally sound folks.

vooks:


[s]
To gods like you, right?

For Joagbaje, I pity his sheeple. For a negro who believes Adam was not the first man, he is depraved beyond redemption, but I digress.

Zipporah was both a Midianite and a Cushite just as Dikembe Mutombo Mpolondo Mukamba Jean-Jacques Wamutombo is both Congolese and American[/s]

Gombs: