johnw74:



I'm not going through them all, here is the first few verses you have posted to me to support a creation before the Genesis creation:

Isaiah 24:1
Behold, the Lord maketh the earth empty, and maketh it waste, and turneth it upside down, and scattereth abroad the inhabitants thereof.


Where the word "Earth" is used there a better word would be "land" because it is talking about Judea known as palestine then, and the surrounding places.

I posted a verse from that chapter showing it cannot be talking of a creation before the Genesis creation:

Isa 24:20 The earth shall reel to and fro like a drunkard, and shall be removed like a cottage; and the transgression thereof shall be heavy upon it; and it shall fall, and not rise again.




Jeremiah 4:23-26
I beheld the earth, and, lo, it was without form, and void; and the heavens, and they had no light.

24 I beheld the mountains, and, lo, they trembled, and all the hills moved lightly.

25 I beheld, and, lo, there was no man, and all the birds of the heavens were fled.

26 I beheld, and, lo, the fruitful place was a wilderness, and all the cities thereof were broken down at the presence of the Lord, and by his fierce anger.



Those Jeremiah verses are about Judaea during the Babylonian captivity.

It takes very little study to find out what the above Isaiah and Jeremiah verses are speaking about, you should do it.

Why the merry-go-round. Stick to what you believe. When you get hooked (because you sure will) you will come here and re-examine eplanning's posts. I'm certain many have read them and have recieved wisdom and knowledge which they never had before. .

donnie:


Yes, didnt you read about the cave men who created farming tools, cooked, had families, comunities, houses, weapons etc?

Yeah sure, cave men didn't live in caves or primitive structures, they built cities, had monetary trade etc. - not.

donnie:

Truth came to us by the blood. The reason for the blood is that we might know and receive the truth and the life.
The blood gave us access into this truth wherein we stand.
Dont forget, He is the way, THE TRUTH and the life.
Many have already laid down their lives for this truth.

@bold, Many have already laid down their lives for the truth - Jesus Christ,
not for the knowledge of whether there was a pre-Adamite creation or not.

donnie:


Why the merry-go-round. Stick to what you believe. When you get hooked (because you sure will) you will come here and re-examine eplanning's posts. I'm certain many have read them and have received wisdom and knowledge which they never had before. .

I won't be getting any wisdom and knowledge from those who post scriptures for a pre-Adamite creation, when some of those scriptures are about other things.

eplanning say's almost word for word what Frank Caw and others have said long ago,
whereas Frank Caw and others may or may not believe what they write, they are also interested in making money from their books.

ADVERTBOARD:
From Genesis 1:2 to 25, God said "let there" be light, etc. But in verse 26, he said "let us" make man in our own image.

Do you know the second person when he said "us" ?

understanding is key here. Like i usually say, the bible is very logical and so is christianity. If man was created in the image of angels, shouldnt we have wings? God was speaking with the word(Jesus christ) and the Holy Spirit. In john 1:2, the Bible tells us the word was there in the begining with God the Holy Spirit was clearly stated in gen1:2 to av been part of the creation work with God. In the book of ezekiel 1:26 prophet ezekiel described what God looked like and we know from where we got our image from. By d way in dat same ezekiel 1, we get a picture of what d devil looks like because the bible tells us that lucifer was a cherub and there in ezekiel 1 there is a detailed description of what a cherub looks like.
The part of man dat is the image of God is the spirit of man and dis was created on the sixth day according to gen 1:26 and the body of man was formed from the dust after God was done with d seven days creation and rested gen2:7. God breathed the spirit of man into the created body and man became a living soul.
This is why God is mostly concerned with the spirit of man which is an eternal being like God himself dat is why Jesus came to save the spirit of man from his fallen state so dat wen we transcend into d realm of eternity, we wont b eternally fallen/damned beings.

ifenes:


The book of Genesis was originally written by the Sumerians. "Let there be light" was added by the editors of the Bible.It had nothing to do with a god. The Sumerians recognized the Sun as the light of the world. The Sun came to rescue life on the planet according to them.

"Let us make man in our image" was a conversation between biological beings who visited the planet to mine gold. They were called the Giants,The Elohim,"sons of god". El is singular god,Elohim is plural in Aramaic. The Sumerians called them The Anunnaki(those who from heaven come)

This is why it is obvious there is no god. The Bible is an Aurthur of confusion.

how easy was it for u to believe dis? So if u r talking about the giants being sons of god, this means you believe the is god and he has sons. If d book of genesis was written by d people who u claim wrote it and not moses, how come for aeons, it was only d jews that had dis book and dey wouldnt even teach anyone who was not a jew? How come its only history of d patriachs of d jews dat was recorded there and not dat of ur sumerians?
I know comprehending alot of things in d bible is quite difficult and dat is because it only the Holy Spirit dat can teach u to understand d things written. Get born again and d scriptures will become very clear to comprehend instead of u believing one article u read somewhere dat could av been written by any random fellow.

oyeludef:
understanding is key here. Like i usually say, the bible is very logical and so is christianity. If man was created in the image of angels, shouldnt we have wings? God was speaking with the word(Jesus christ) and the Holy Spirit. In john 1:2, the Bible tells us the word was there in the begining with God the Holy Spirit was clearly stated in gen1:2 to av been part of the creation work with God. In the book of ezekiel 1:26 prophet ezekiel described what God looked like and we know from where we got our image from. By d way in dat same ezekiel 1, we get a picture of what d devil looks like because the bible tells us that lucifer was a cherub and there in ezekiel 1 there is a detailed description of what a cherub looks like.
The part of man dat is the image of God is the spirit of man and dis was created on the sixth day according to gen 1:26 and the body of man was formed from the dust after God was done with d seven days creation and rested gen2:7. God breathed the spirit of man into the created body and man became a living soul.
This is why God is mostly concerned with the spirit of man which is an eternal being like God himself dat is why Jesus came to save the spirit of man from his fallen state so dat wen we transcend into d realm of eternity, we wont b eternally fallen/damned beings.

Good insight !

reallest:


Must u abuse to drive home ur point?

It's either you can't read, you are dumb or you're deviod of understanding. Where in my post did I abuse him/her? I guess you don't know the difference between abuse and questions.

marsoden:


It's either you can't read, you are dumb or you're deviod of understanding. Where in my post did I abuse him/her? I guess you don't know the difference between abuse and questions.

I don't think he is right

donnie:


Sure, He was!

Look at these scriptures:
John 1:1-3
In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God. 2 The same was in the beginning with God. 3 All things were made by him; and without him was not any thing made that was made. (KJV)

John 1:14
And the Word became flesh and dwelt among us, and we have seen his glory, glory as of the only Son from the Father, full of grace and truth. (ESV)

So there it is. . . Jesus came from The Word.

So who was God talking to? Can we not say that you are saying that Jesus isnt a person, but an impersonal sound?

The original (prior) creation is covered in Gen1:1. The destruction of the earth by water is seen in Gen 1:2 (and several other scriptures which eplanning mentioned in his recent discussions on this thread) and in Gen 1:3-2:25 we see the six days of re-creation account.

How is Gen 1:2 a destruction of the earth, I see no destruction there. Explain how 1:3-2:25 is a recreation.

JMAN05:


So who was God talking to?

Like I said before, He was talking to the Spirit who in the beginning,  according to Genesis 1:1 was hovering over the face of the waters.

JMAN05:

  Can we not say that you are saying that Jesus isnt a person, but an impersonal sound?

No you cannot, cos I never said so.
Even the voice of God in Gen 3:8 was said to be "walking" in the garden of Eden. That's giving personality to the Word.

But God is not a trickster to turn Jesus(like u imagine) into a little thing and then put him in a woman's body; then He pretends to be a baby and all that funny unscriptural stuff.

The scriptures are very clear: THE WORD became flesh(JESUS) and lived among us - John 1:13

JMAN05:

How is Gen 1:2 a destruction of the earth, I see no destruction there. Explain how 1:3-2:25 is a recreation.

Isaiah 45:18 "...God Himself that formed the earth and made it; he established it, he created it not in vain, he formed it to be inhabited..."

God did not create the world in vain. The Hebrew Word translated VAIN in the above scripture is: "tohuw" meaning: empty, waste, desolation, wilderness.

The same word "tohuw" was translated "without form in Genesis 1:2 and Jeremiah 4:23.

It must have been made with inhabitants in the first place, becoming empty after the destruction of Gen 1:2 and Jer 4:23.

Eplanning has already said a lot in that regard. You can choose to agree or not, but please dont try to make the Word look confusing cos it is not at all. It only is confusing when we try to use our human reasoning. We should let scripture interprete scripture.

you're alarmingly ignorant. Who says we don't that they're extra terresterial beings in the book of Genesis? and WHO says we don't know they Stoll exist? Could you believe if if I told you I've been hundreds of them?

Leave our Precious book but of your delusions please, you can go on with your atheism without it.

ifenes:


This is a Nigerian thread where 99.9% of its members are 400 years in the past. This is something an average white kid knows. It is shocking to see you all think Genesis isn't about Extra dimensional beings. I leave you in your past.

Amberon11:
you're alarmingly ignorant. Who says we don't that they're extra terresterial beings in the book of Genesis? and WHO says we don't know they Stoll exist? Could you believe if if I told you I've been hundreds of them?

Leave our Precious book but of your delusions please, you can go on with your atheism without it.

So the bible is your precious book? How has that helped your country so far?

ifenes:


So the bible is your precious book? How has that helped your country so far?

And do you know where we would have been without the Bible?

eplanning:


Do you know where we would have been without the Bible?

We would be better off without it. Imagine you tackling your problems rather than praying to yahweh. Problems are meant to be solved,not prayed over. Money are meant to be spent on the needy and less privileged and not put in the offering box. Books that helps humanity to survive the planet,enhance our potentials are meant to be taught and not the ones that enslaves our minds.

What benefit have you derived from the bible so far? Thou halt not worship another god? really?

yes it is. how have you helped the country so far?

On which "Law's" was the great America built and established?

ifenes:


So the bible is your precious book? How has that helped your country so far?

donnie:


Like I said before, He was talking to the Spirit who in the beginning,  according to Genesis 1:1 was hovering over the face of the waters.

Who told you that he was talking to this spirit since "he" is not the only person with God?

I think John 1:1 contradicts this stand cos in the beginning The Word was already with God, and it was through him that God made many things. How logical then will it be for God to be talking to another person?

No you cannot, cos I never said so.
Even the voice of God in Gen 3:8 was said to be "walking" in the garden of Eden. That's giving personality to the Word.

But God is not a trickster to turn Jesus(like u imagine) into a little thing and then put him in a woman's body; then He pretends to be a baby and all that funny unscriptural stuff.

The scriptures are very clear: THE WORD became flesh(JESUS) and lived among us - John 1:13

True, you didnt say it, but you implied that. And above you are saying that again. You agree that Jesus is LITERALLY the word of God, and you agreed that God do ooze out Jesus when speaking. When God makes His utterance, he is producing a sound, if Jesus is that literal word, he is the sound.

Secondly, you understanding brings us to another difficulty, how many Jesuses do we have since God can say more than one word at a time? if your believe is right, it means that each word God makes is Jesus, now if He makes a million words, He produced a million Jesus.

Thirdly, when the word became flesh and dwell amongst us (on earth), now when God spoke from heaven, which Jesus was He oozing out?

Gen 3:8 is not saying the voice is walking, that is a misunderstanding caused by translation. see this translation:

Later they heard the voice of Jehovah God as he was walking in the garden about the breezy part of the day, and the man and his wife hid from the face of Jehovah God among the trees of the garden

God is the one walking there, not his voice.

Isaiah 45:18 "...God Himself that formed the earth and made it; he established it, he created it not in vain, he formed it to be inhabited..."

God did not create the world in vain. The Hebrew Word translated VAIN in the above scripture is: "tohuw" meaning: empty, waste, desolation, wilderness.

The same word "tohuw" was translated "without form in Genesis 1:2 and Jeremiah 4:23.

It must have been made with inhabitants in the first place, becoming empty after the destruction of Gen 1:2 and Jer 4:23.

Eplanning has already said a lot in that regard. You can choose to agree or not, but please dont try to make the Word look confusing cos it is not at all. It only is confusing when we try to use our human reasoning. We should let scripture interprete scripture.

You did misunderstood that Genesis.

God didnt create the earth for nothing or for it to be empty as you rightly said. That scripture told us the purpose of creating the earth, it didnt say that the earth's creation came with inhabitants on it, rather it was telling us the purpose. After creating the earth, God went on to create other things making it inhabitable, and then Adam was created.

Gen 1:1 is talking about the creation of the material universe. Gen 1:2 is not talking about a destruction, rather it is telling us about the physical condition of the planet earth after its creation. Its condition needed more work to be done so as to make it fit for life to dwell on. The six "days" of creation tells us how God did it, and how Adam came to be created after this arrangement.

The creation account is showing how God created things chronologically. It is good not to insert into the scriptures what is not there.

You wake up at 4 am and say to your Heart, Soul, Mind and the Strength in you, "Let me wake up, pray, bath and start to work". God, vocatively did exactly that in Genesis.

JMAN05:


Who told you that he was talking to this spirit since "he" is not the only person with God?

Be careful because what you refer to as "this spirit" is God the Holy Spirit.

JMAN05:

I think John 1:1 contradicts this stand cos in the beginning The Word was already with God, and it was through him that God made many things. How logical then will it be for God to be talking to another person?

Sorry I do not see the contradiction?

Here you are again trying to use logic and human reasoning to understand the Word.

Yes, The Word pre-existed the beginning because the Word of God is eternal.

God is eternal and inexhaustible. The fact that He sent His Word to a woman called Mary, who received that Word which upon incubation of the Holy Ghost brought forth Jesus, doesn't make Him diminish or become less God.

The Father never leaves His throne. He sends His Word and His Spirit but yet He is not diminished. He is still complete God. Both the Word and the Spirit proceed from Him.

All things were created by the Word and the Holy Ghost. the Father Spoke (The Word), "Let there be light" and the Spirit brought the Word to pass.

Colossians 1:16    "For by him were all things created, that are in heaven, and that are in earth, visible and invisible, whether they be thrones, or dominions, or principalities, or powers: all things were created by him, and for him:"

Job 26:13  "  By his spirit He hath garnished the heavens; ..."

The Word and the Spirit are always involved in anything the Father does.

Even in the immaculate conception of Jesus in Bethlehem, The Word and the Spirit were responsible.

Angel Gabriel brought THE WORD to virgin Mary which she received by faith:

Luke 1:31    "And, behold, thou shalt conceive in thy womb, and bring forth a son, and shalt call his name JESUS."

When she asked: " ... How shall this be, seeing I know not a man?" (Luke 1:34)

Gabriel replied in Luke 1:35   "  .. THE HOLY GHOST shall come upon thee, and the power of the Highest shall overshadow thee: therefore also that holy thing which shall be born of thee shall be called the Son of God.

AGAIN, the Father sent His Word and The Spirit brought the Word to pass.

Jesus is God because he came from the Word. His life is 100% divine. His body however came from his mother. That's why He was 100% God and 100% man ( Not 50%:50%).

That is the beauty of the trinity and great is this mystery:

1Jn 5:7 "For there are three that bear record in heaven, the Father, the Word, and the Holy Ghost: and these three are one."

JMAN05:

True, you didnt say it, but you implied that.

I did not, neither did I imply, thank you.

JMAN05:

And above you are saying that again. You agree that Jesus is LITERALLY the word of God, and you agreed that God do ooze out Jesus when speaking. When God makes His utterance, he is producing a sound, if Jesus is that literal word, he is the sound.

Secondly, you understanding brings us to another difficulty, how many Jesuses do we have since God can say more than one word at a time? if your believe is right, it means that each word God makes is Jesus, now if He makes a million words, He produced a million Jesus.

Thirdly, when the word became flesh and dwell amongst us (on earth), now when God spoke from heaven, which Jesus was He oozing out?

Look, God's Word became Jesus and I never implied that God became dumb after Jesus' birth.

The Words that God speaks has His divine life in them. They carry His DNA. Now this divine life was tabernacled in human flesh. And He was called Jesus.

That is why He is so precious to the Father. He was the Word of the Father in flesh. .And it pleased the father that the fullness of the Godhead should dwell in Him. - Col 1:19.

And that is why we who have received The Word can talk to deaf ears, blind eyes, crippled limbs, unfavourable circumstances and have them conform to the Word. Because the Word is God.

JMAN05:

Gen 3:8 is not saying the voice is walking, that is a misunderstanding caused by translation. see this translation:

Later they heard the voice of Jehovah God as he was walking in the garden about the breezy part of the day, and the man and his wife hid from the face of Jehovah God among the trees of the garden

God is the one walking there, not his voice.

You did misunderstood that Genesis.

Okay how did they know that was God? Did they see him? Did they hear His footsteps or did they hear His voice?

Thank God you are not the Holy Spirit that gave Moses the Words to put down.

What they heard was God. I hope you are not in anyway trying to belittle THE WORD.


Psalm 138:2 "...for thou hast magnified thy word above all thy name."

JMAN05:

God didnt create the earth for nothing or for it to be empty as you rightly said. That scripture told us the purpose of creating the earth, it didnt say that the earth's creation came with inhabitants on it, rather it was telling us the purpose. After creating the earth, God went on to create other things making it inhabitable, and then Adam was created.

Gen 1:1 is talking about the creation of the material universe. Gen 1:2 is not talking about a destruction, rather it is telling us about the physical condition of the planet earth after its creation. Its condition needed more work to be done so as to make it fit for life to dwell on. The six "days" of creation tells us how God did it, and how Adam came to be created after this arrangement.

The creation account is showing how God created things chronologically. It is good not to insert into the scriptures what is not there.

I am not going to continue this dance with you for long; especially if you are indirectly trying to get me to bail you out of an already existing confusion.

Anyways, Like I said, there's already so much written by some who share my views in this thread. When you get hooked, you will visit this thread and read.

marsoden:


I don't really think you're right.

First he said "let us" make man in "our own image". Does the other host of heaven have the image of God? Do angels have the image of God? What about the elders? The living creatures? I don't think they have the image of God. The fact that man was made in the image of God is the reason why redemption for man(after the fall) was something that must happen. If angels were made in the image of God, God would have also been interested in their redemption after their fall.

I'm not sure, but I think God was talking to God the son and God the holyspirit.

Yes indeed, the statement was one made to equals, people with same right standing, position and power like Him.... God the son and God the Holy Spirit!!! I had also pondered that myself upon reading that portion and immediately the answer was he was talking to the Trinity, Himself inclusive....

The statement seems more like a suggestion which needed consent by others with thesame capacity, hence He couldn't have been talking to the host of heaven else, He would have only said; I want to make man in my own image and likeness...

eplanning:



He was talking to the Holy Ghost because there was no Son as yet. He was still the Word in the bossom of the father. There was no Jesus there according to the bible.

The Father spoke The Word, "let there be light" and The Spirit brought The Word to pass. That is how creation came into being.

In the beginning was the word and the word was with God and the word was God. St John 1:1

How about that??if Jesus was already with God, how could he not have been there when God proposed the motion to make man If man having the image of God in likes of spirit, soul and body(Father,Son, Spirit) how come he still wasn't there but just a word spoken??


Between that the word was made flesh and dwelt among us, explains Christ coming to the world in the form of man for redemption sake and as such has nothing to do with ur quote from the beginning, ' he was the word in the bosom of the father ' funny when the scripture has rightly stated he was God always with the Father, still is and forever will be.... He even said He is in the Father, just as the Father is in Him, as they are one and the same, so why still think He is just a spoken word to later be made manifest?? please get ur facts correctly so ppl don't get misled!

dazzle101:


In the beginning was the word and the word was with God and the word was God.   St John 1:1

True

dazzle101:


How about that??if Jesus was already with God, how could he not have been there when God proposed the motion to make man

John 1:1 said THE WORD was with God. Didn't mention Jesus. Or are you trying to make it say so.

dazzle101:

The BikeIf man having the image of God in likes of spirit, soul and body(Father,Son, Spirit) how come he still wasn't there but just a word spoken??

The bolded is the result of religion and the reason why many Christians live lives that are ordinary or short of power. You call the spoken Word "just"?

Have you read this before? ...

John 1 :1   "In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God."

What did you think the Prophets of old related with? Did they see God in his Glory? They honoured His Word above all else and through faith in that Word subdued kingdoms.

Faith in God's Word is faith in God!

dazzle101:

Between that the word was made flesh and dwelt among us, explains Christ coming to the world in the form of man for redemption sake and as such has nothing to do with ur quote from the beginning, ' he was the word in the bosom of the father ' funny when the scripture has rightly stated he was God always with the Father, still is and forever will be.... He even said He is in the Father, just as the Father is in Him, as they are one and the same, so why still think He is just a spoken word to later be made manifest?? please get ur facts correctly so ppl don't get misled!

Of course the reason Jesus is eternal is because He came from the eternal Word of God. He was always the Word in the bossom of the father. He was never a separate entity until He was born in Bethlehem.

That is why heaven rejoiced at His birth. Not because the one that walked around in heaven had just rellocated.

But rather, they rejoiced because a wonder had just taken place. The Word of God which they had heard and obeyed had become flesh.

The spoken Word became the living Word. And the living Word gave us the written word. Glory!

1John 1:1 
"That which was from the beginning, which we have heard, which we have seen with our eyes, which we have looked upon, and our hands have handled, of the Word of life;"

When you know who Jesus really is then you will know who you really are in Him because we were born of the same Word.

1Pet1:23
" Being born again, not of corruptible seed, but of incorruptible, by the word of God, which liveth and abideth for ever."

[quote author=donnie post=44551567]
True



John 1:1 said THE WORD was with God. Didn't mention Jesus. Or are you trying to make it say so.



The bolded is the result of religion and the reason why many Christians live lives that are ordinary or short of power. You call the spoken Word "just"?

Have you read this before? ...

John 1 :1   "In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God."

What did you think the Prophets of old related with? Did they see God in his Glory? They honoured His Word above all else and through faith in that Word subdued kingdoms.

Faith in God's Word is faith in God!



Of course the reason Jesus is eternal is because He came from the eternal Word of God. He was always the Word in the bossom of the father. He was was never a separate entity until He was born in Bethlehem.

That is why heaven rejoiced at His birth. Not because the one that walked around in heaven had just reallocated.

But rather, they rejoiced because a wonder had just taken place. The Word of God which they had heard and obeyed had become flesh.

The spoken Word became the living Word. And the living Word gave us the written word. Glory!

1John 1:1 
"That which was from the beginning, which we have heard, which we have seen with our eyes, which we have looked upon, and our hands have handled, of the Word of life;"

When you know who Jesus really is then you will know who you really are in Him because we were born of the same Word.

1Pet1:23
" Being born again, not of corruptible seed, but of incorruptible, by the word of God, which liveth and abideth for ever."


[quote author = donnie

BANAL AND VERBOSE!!!

dazzle101:



BANAL AND VERBOSE!!

Haha... I didn't expect you to thank me for straightening you out. My joy however is that many will read and discover who Jesus really is and their true identity as partakers of the divine nature.

donnie:


Haha... I didn't expect you to thank me for straightening you out. My joy however is that many will read and discover who Jesus really is and their true identity as partakers of the divine nature.

Haha u sound so frigging petty! You didn't expect i'd go the norm and begin an online banter! I carefully saw ur folly and avoided the rancour that would have occurred!

I don't make it a point of duty to assert or try beyond reason to convince anyone cos I feel I'm an island! Oh no sir.... Dude get over yourself, not everyone is inane like you! I really do not like such online back n forth brouhaha n that's why I kept it short and simple with just two words! But now I definitely have to straighten u out! You my dear are no match for what I know or do not, I do not have to prove nada to noone, not especially an online no it all like u!

Watch out for this moniker and don't try crappy mentions on me next time, if I haven't quoted you!

Shallom...

dazzle101:



Haha u sound so frigging petty! You didn't expect i'd go the norm and begin an online banter! I carefully saw ur folly and avoided the rancour that would have occurred!

I don't make it a point of duty to assert or try beyond reason to convince anyone cos I feel I'm an island! Oh no sir.... Dude get over yourself, not everyone is inane like you! I really do not like such online back n forth brouhaha n that's why I kept it short and simple with just two words! But now I definitely have to straighten u out! You my dear are no match for what I know or do not, I do not have to prove nada to noone, not especially an online no it all like u!

Watch out for this moniker and don't try crappy mentions on me next time, if I haven't quoted you!

Shallom...

BYE

donnie:


BYE

BYE YOURSELF

Great analysis from all corners, all in all,I have no doubt that Lucifer was present at the creation of man,if not, God wouldn't have given him the world,also Lucifer wouldn't have asked Jesus to bow and inherit the earth.

He was talking to the person of The Holy Spirit.

Genesis 1: 2-3 And the earth was without form, and void; and darkness was upon the face of the deep. And the Spirit of God moved upon the face of the waters.
And God said, Let there be light: and there was light.

ifenes:


Then who created Jehovah? Our ancestors who evolved on this planet got in contact with ancient visitors at some point,who in turned added their DNA to ours.

If your question is 'who created Jehovah?' then I'd like to ask who created the Annunakis?
how did they add their DNA to ours?
You mean we were created by them?

or life had already existed before they came? If yes, how come?.. if no, then why did they create us and left? and haven't we heard from them since then?
#Curious

ADVERTBOARD:
Great analysis from all corners, all in all,I have no doubt that Lucifer was present at the creation of man,if not, God wouldn't have given him the world,also Lucifer wouldn't have asked Jesus to bow and inherit the earth.

No Sir, Lucifer was not present because at that time, he was already a fallen creature, Satan, having been cast out of heaven. According to the bible, he was the covering cherub in charge of the old world from where he decided to lead a rebellion against God resulting in the destruction of that old world.

And yes, Satan became the prince of this world because Adam lost his authority over the earth to Satan in the garden. Otherwise that wouldn't have been a genuine temptation if he didn't really have the world to give to Jesus.

donnie:


No Sir, Lucifer was not present because at that time, he was already a fallen creature having been cast out of heaven. According to the bible, he was the covering cherub in charge of the old world from where he decided to lead a rebellion against God, resulting in the destruction of that old world.

Thanks Sir, tell me about the old world. what type of creatures lived before the destruction ? What led to destruction of the old world?