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Blaqsmith:
I am bringing up this issue here because I don't trust the environment I live and the people I co-habit with. They would open up the bible for me than tell me some truth I need to hear or advise me to go for brain evaluation. I am well ok.

I've been an atheist for some years now, but due to beliefs of people around, I make it a closed affair. Though I raised questions which theists always fail to convincingly answer, I still agree with them that there is god.

I live in this denial of who I am just to satisfy my loved ones and make them happy. They see atheist as a mad man.

All these years, this is what I battle inside of me, but what choice do I have than just to play along? I don't wanna lose loved ones 'cause of my belief.

I muster some courage and decided to reveal my real self to my girlfriend who is also religious. She's told me her love for me is unconditional and I tried to believe her.

She went berserk when I told her am an atheist... She wouldn't just believe it. Since then, she's been looking at me like I'm under some spell.

I'm losing her and I don't ever wanna lose her. If for anything, not because I don't believe there is God who looks by while toddlers die.

Blaqsmith:
Thanks. But I just wanted to be free. I've been a prisoner of my own conscience deceiving her all along. She deserves to know the truth.

But why can't you date an atheist?
Why do you think dating theist is a better choice?
Where is your God when I lost my brother after fervent prayers?
What is your God doing to help the homeless and hungry children on the streets?

Xtopher123:
Throughout your existence on earth youll never lack for this Response, its the most matured I can think of

sirmose:
I read of lots philosophers who argued this fact for and against God's existence, but none of them could successfully disprove St Thomas Aquinas' five proofs that God exist. They are as follow:

Aquinas' Five Ways argued from the unmoved mover, first cause, necessary being, argument from degree, and the teleological argument.

1. The unmoved mover argument asserts that, from our experience of motion in the universe (motion being the transition from potentiality to actuality) we can see that there must have been an initial mover. Aquinas argued that whatever is in motion must be put in motion by another thing, so there must be an unmoved mover.
2. Aquinas' argument from first cause started with the premise that it is impossible for a being to cause itself (because it would have to exist before it caused itself) and that it is impossible for there to be an infinite chain of causes, which would result in infinite regress. Therefore, there must be a first cause, itself uncaused.
3. The argument from necessary being asserts that all beings are contingent, meaning that it is possible for them not to exist. Aquinas argued that if everything can possibly not exist, there must have been a time when nothing existed; as things exist now, there must exist a being with necessary existence, regarded as God.
4. Aquinas argued from degree, considering the occurrence of degrees of goodness. He believed that things which are called good, must be called good in relation to a standard of good—a maximum. There must be a maximum goodness that which causes all goodness.
5. The teleological argument asserts the view that things without intelligence are ordered towards a purpose. Aquinas argued that unintelligent objects cannot be ordered unless they are done so by an intelligent being, which means that there must be an intelligent being to move objects to their ends: God.

Even Rene Descartes, who doubted his own existence in his popular "dubito, ergo cogito, ergo sum", believe that God exist.
Until you can disprove these, I know that God exist.

Come to think of this: if I believe now that God exist, later die to find out that God didn't exist, what will I loose? What will I loose if I don't believe in God existence now but later die to find out that God actually exists?

I hope this will help lots of us all have a rethink.

Owliver:
Bros i too dont believe in organized religion but you need to hide it and deceive people. i dont discuss it with those close to me. just pretend

Bluehawk:
At least you can feel the air.. when last did anyone u even remotely know communicqte with God. Is he intentionally ignoring..is he there..why are the so called christians one of the most wicked people i can encounter. How does a being who condemns murder resolve issues with bloodshed and war..the part where he killed every first born in egypt.hope u know innocent egyptian childrendied too..does he let his worshippers suffer just to enjoy the drama and climax of their enslavement so he can save them and take the glory.. When u care about someone you cant let unspeakable things that has happened to beleivers throughout history happen to them..

Bluehawk:
The truth is even staring you in the eyes here in nigeria..pastors acquiring scores of private jets when their members trek to church..church members encouraged by their pastors to rely on makeshift advert banners for protection and cure for ailment while the pastors go to hospitals for state of the art treatment...what is the pope so afraid of that he employs so much guards...? Its sickening..i could go all night buh i gats sleep.. Some of my fellow nigerians are even usin our moon that is on its own to delay other people's business.. Its a rock floating in space.. Why are they worshipping it.. Ahh..

Blaqsmith:
Thanks. But I just wanted to be free. I've been a prisoner of my own conscience deceiving her all along. She deserves to know the truth.

But why can't you date an atheist?
Why do you think dating theist is a better choice?
Where is your God when I lost my brother after fervent prayers?
What is your God doing to help the homeless and hungry children on the streets?

laurel03:
Muslim marry muslim
Xtain marry Xtain
Ifa marry Ifa
Amorc my Amorc
Buddhist marry Buddhist etc....
Abeg go Marry Atheist like you.....
In Africa na mad person always say God no exist...

Fastpace:
That part which u say she won't let go if his a good husband,well he can't be one if does nt blieve in God.To kp a marriage goin prayer is important,hw can he pray to be,and kp being a good hubby wen God doesn't exist to him.

HardMirror:
You see what I said about christian ladies level of intelligence? Smh
Go to court and see those getting divorced and come back and tell me about prayers. You are so myopic. If you dated me and I hide my atheism from you, your only complain would be that I don't go to church and I know how to make that not seem important.
Sure you think there are no atheists doing far better than christians keep living in delusion.
It is your type that is easy to fool in the name of god.

malachytochukwu:
Just saw in one of the threads that you are still in 100L.Dont start off your life with this kind of belief cos you ain't seen nothing yet. Time shall come when you will be in serious need of the Almighty, you shall call on him and he will answer you.

Kunberg:
Before u muster courage to tell her, u shud have gotten enough facts and figures to convince her of ur stands.

It has not been easy to defend though, it only takes u not to be dependant on anybody to achieve ur atheists aim. Aside that u will be purnished and denied some things and benefits

GeekNCodes:
Bro I studied philosophy and logic and I can relate to wthe allure of atheism. However, I chose to believe in something... A power greater than myself for my own soul. Being in an all knowing state is cool at the beginning but whenever you face a test that threatens your life for example, the human spirit makes a recourse to faith. Faith in this context also includes atheism. You believe nothing so you are left with your intellect alone to battle out of that situation. Do you believe in any thing ? Do you believe that your girlfriend loves you? Do you believe that you could have a happy life together? Would you spend your last dime to see she recovers if she falls sick? Understand this bad things happen in the world because the world is not an ideal place. Yes toddlers die, bad things happen but if you reject everything faith and by extension.. God, then you are hollow and your enlightenment helps no one to be strong in bad times. Yes religion is not conclusive, heck it might not be logical but it helps, it heals, offers hope. Atheism proceeds into nihilism.. D believe in nothing...dats more gloom to the heartache of d world. A popular doctor said d most important discovery of his career is never ever take away hope from patients. Y..miracles sometimes happens with believe. *** I wrote on this in my final year project, in case you are interested to understand the point of view of someone who tasted atheism and found Christ. I will never trade him for anything.

aguking:
.indeed you re really insane.i cant even advise a guy to b ur frnd talk more a gal to date u.u re very infectious,wen u die,hell fire will tell u there is God

HardMirror:
You think you can intimidate him cos he is in 100L? You can do that with a religious mind not an atheist. Many of us have lived good lives so far, we have had atheists all through history who did well without god unto their death. So wake up and smell the coffee. You obviously know nothing about life yourself and you obviously are unexposed or a person of knowledge.

HardMirror:
You see what I said about christian ladies level of intelligence? Smh
Go to court and see those getting divorced and come back and tell me about prayers. You are so myopic. If you dated me and I hide my atheism from you, your only complain would be that I don't go to church and I know how to make that not seem important.

Sure you think there are no atheists doing far better than christians keep living in delusion.
It is your type that is easy to fool in the name of god.

THEY'LL SAY ONE THING AND GO ON TO SHOW ANOTHER, THEY'LL PREACH EVERY WORD OF GOD TO YOU, SOMETHING THEY ALWAYS FAIL TO ABIDE IN.

ONCE A GIRL SAID SHE'D LEAVE ME IF I DON'T DO CHURCH AND FELLOWSHIPS WITH HER.
I DIDN'T STRESS SHIIT, IT DIDN'T TAKE ANY TIME BEFORE SHE STARTED COMING OVER TO MY PLACE ON SUNDAY MORNINGS TO PLAY FIFA14 WITH ME , AND TAKE MY ALMIGHTY D IN THE EVENINGS INSTEAD OF GOING FOR HER FELLOWSHIP.

HardMirror:
Lol.
I don't think he should be worried. Only reason why I love atheist ladies is the freedom I will have to laugh at the stupidity of christians and other religions. And they are also highly intelligent and difficult to fool.

All these religious girls are very easy to fool, just spiritualize the issue and tap into their emotions
She has not found a job? Spiritualize it. She is ill? Spiritualize it, everything is God, devil and enemies.
The stupidity can get annoying.

Maximus85:
She's doesn't want to marry a fool.

Blaqsmith:
I am bringing up this issue here because I don't trust the environment I live and the people I co-habit with. They would open up the bible for me than tell me some truth I need to hear or advise me to go for brain evaluation. I am well ok.

I've been an atheist for some years now, but due to beliefs of people around, I make it a closed affair. Though I raised questions which theists always fail to convincingly answer, I still agree with them that there is god.

I live in this denial of who I am just to satisfy my loved ones and make them happy. They see atheist as a mad man.

All these years, this is what I battle inside of me, but what choice do I have than just to play along? I don't wanna lose loved ones 'cause of my belief.

I muster some courage and decided to reveal my real self to my girlfriend who is also religious. She's told me her love for me is unconditional and I tried to believe her.

She went berserk when I told her am an atheist... She wouldn't just believe it. Since then, she's been looking at me like I'm under some spell.

I'm losing her and I don't ever wanna lose her. If for anything, not because I don't believe there is God who looks by while toddlers die.

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THEY'LL SAY ONE THING AND GO ON TO SHOW ANOTHER, THEY'LL PREACH EVERY WORD OF GOD TO YOU, SOMETHING THEY ALWAYS FAIL TO ABIDE IN.

ONCE A GIRL SAID SHE'D LEAVE ME IF I DON'T DO CHURCH AND FELLOWSHIPS WITH HER.
I DIDN'T STRESS SHIIT, IT DIDN'T TAKE ANY TIME BEFORE SHE STARTED COMING OVER TO MY PLACE ON SUNDAY MORNINGS TO PLAY FIFA14 WITH ME , AND TAKE MY ALMIGHTY D IN THE EVENINGS INSTEAD OF GOING FOR HER FELLOWSHIP.

general111:
if you won't worship him,many others will.and he may not even notice that you are not worshiping him..goodluck to you..

Blaqsmith:
Where is your God when I lost my brother after fervent prayers?
What is your God doing to help the homeless and hungry children on the streets?