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D by Nobody: 3:14pm On Nov 27, 2016
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Re: D by theoneJabulani(m): 3:22pm On Nov 27, 2016
Nice one Ol

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Re: D by hahn(m): 3:26pm On Nov 27, 2016
Hmm
Re: D by Aaronsrod: 3:29pm On Nov 27, 2016
Foolish athiest! If they cannot willingly kill and die for God how can they live for Him now or in Heaven?? The nature of obedience is unknown to you.

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Re: D by LaClicKLaBenDin(m): 3:37pm On Nov 27, 2016
This is the problem when we decide to explain one part of the Bible in isolation. Why chose that part of the Bible alone and compare it with a Chinese tale? Trying to explain or interpret the Bible in isolation can make one run into erroneous conclusions.

Now let me ask, is it right to teach our children these?

As taken from The 10 Commandments List in Exodus 20:12-17

Honor your father and your mother, that your days may be long upon the land which the LORD your God is giving you.

“You shall not murder.

You shall not commit adultery.

You shall not steal.

You shall not bear false witness against your neighbor.

You shall not covet your neighbor’s house; you shall not covet your neighbor’s wife, nor his male servant, nor his female servant, nor his ox, nor his donkey, nor anything that is your neighbor’s
.”

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Re: D by EyeHateGod: 3:40pm On Nov 27, 2016
I will Teach my Children religion Basically i Will Teach them Most of the Religion man Kind have Ever invented and also have them Read the Myth Books..

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Re: D by Nobody: 3:42pm On Nov 27, 2016
LaClicKLaBenDin:
This is the problem when we decide to explain one part of the Bible in isolation. Why chose that part of the Bible alone and compare it with a Chinese tale? Trying to explain or interpret the Bible in isolation can make one run into erroneous conclusions.

Now let me ask, is it right to teach our children these?

As taken from The 10 Commandments List in Exodus 20:12-17

Honor your father and your mother, that your days may be long upon the land which the LORD your God is giving you.

“You shall not murder.

You shall not commit adultery.

You shall not steal.

You shall not bear false witness against your neighbor.

You shall not covet your neighbor’s house; you shall not covet your neighbor’s wife, nor his male servant, nor his female servant, nor his ox, nor his donkey, nor anything that is your neighbor’s
.”
You're doing the same thing you accused me of.
All the stories of the bible combined still makes for a barbaric tale.
The good parts dont make up for the bad

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Re: D by Nobody: 3:43pm On Nov 27, 2016
EyeHateGod:
I will Teach my Children religion Basically i Will Teach them Most of the Religion man Kind have Ever invented and also have them Read the Myth Books..
Exactly, teach them all of it. Let it be taught for what it is and not for absolute truth.

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Re: D by Nobody: 3:46pm On Nov 27, 2016
Aaronsrod:
Foolish athiest! If they cannot willingly kill and die for God how can they live for Him now or in Heaven?? The nature of obedience is unknown to you.
You're part if the problem.
Why should they kill people that did them no harm and were just living on their own?
Even the kids?

Why?
Why can't you ask yourself why an all powerful and loving God would command something like this?

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Re: D by EyeHateGod: 3:49pm On Nov 27, 2016
LaClicKLaBenDin:
Now let me ask, is it right to teach our children these?

As taken from The 10 Commandments List in Exodus 20:12-17

Honor your father and your mother, that your days may be long upon the land which the LORD your God is giving you.

“You shall not murder.

You shall not commit adultery.

You shall not steal.

You shall not bear false witness against your neighbor.

You shall not covet your neighbor’s house; you shall not covet your neighbor’s wife, nor his male servant, nor his female servant, nor his ox, nor his donkey, nor anything that is your neighbor’s
.”
The way People cherry pick the part of the Bible that suit them for defence.... But should we also teach our children

Lev 20:10 And the man that committeth adultery with [another] man's wife, [even he] that committeth adultery with his neighbour's wife, the adulterer and the adulteress shall surely be put to death.

Lev 20:17 And if a man shall take his sister, his father's daughter, or his mother's daughter, and see her unclothedness, and she see his unclothedness; it [is] a wicked thing; and they shall be cut off in the sight of their people: he hath uncovered his sister's unclothedness; he shall bear his iniquity.

Lev 20:27 A man also or woman that hath a familiar spirit, or that is a wizard, shall surely be put to death: they shall stone them with stones: their blood [shall be] upon them.

Lev 21:5 They shall not make baldness upon their head, neither shall they shave off the corner of their beard, nor make any cuttings in their flesh.


Let us deal with this once first they i many more but i don't have time to copy them...

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Re: D by LaClicKLaBenDin(m): 3:54pm On Nov 27, 2016
Lennycool:

You're doing the same thing you accused me of.
All the stories of the bible combined still makes for a barbaric tale.
The good parts dont make up for the bad

Common bro, of course I am doing the same thing, and it's not in disguise. If you choose one part of the Bible which doesn't even have a bearing on today's world and children to discourage the teaching of religion, then what's stops me from using another part of the Bible which teaches virtues that have very direct and important bearing to today's world and the upbringing of our children?

Now, in all honesty, tell me, the story you brought from the Bible and the part I brought out, which is more important to the upbringing of your kids? Can you do without teaching the those things, even if you don't tell them the Bible says so?

Now, the portion you brought out is very inconsequential to the upbringing of any child, because it has no bearing to their morals and wellness.

Why doesn't the Nigerian government encourage the teaching of Biafran war in schools? It is only someone who has a dubious and sinister motive that will bring up such issues

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Re: D by KingEbukaNaija: 4:05pm On Nov 27, 2016
EyeHateGod:

The way People cherry pick the part of the Bible that suit them for defence.... But should we also teach our children

Lev 20:10 And the man that committeth adultery with [another] man's wife, [even he] that committeth adultery with his neighbour's wife, the adulterer and the adulteress shall surely be put to death.

Lev 20:17 And if a man shall take his sister, his father's daughter, or his mother's daughter, and see her unclothedness, and she see his unclothedness; it [is] a wicked thing; and they shall be cut off in the sight of their people: he hath uncovered his sister's unclothedness; he shall bear his iniquity.

Lev 20:27 A man also or woman that hath a familiar spirit, or that is a wizard, shall surely be put to death: they shall stone them with stones: their blood [shall be] upon them.

Lev 21:5 They shall not make baldness upon their head, neither shall they shave off the corner of their beard, nor make any cuttings in their flesh.


Let us deal with this once first they i many more but i don't have time to copy them...

For the umpteenth time , this is Judaism - Jewish culture , tradition , religion . This was their culture practiced thousands of years ago , it is now old fashioned and don't apply to Modern day Christians .
Re: D by LaClicKLaBenDin(m): 4:08pm On Nov 27, 2016
EyeHateGod:

The way People cherry pick the part of the Bible that suit them for defence.... But should we also teach our children

Lev 20:10 And the man that committeth adultery with [another] man's wife, [even he] that committeth adultery with his neighbour's wife, the adulterer and the adulteress shall surely be put to death.

Lev 20:17 And if a man shall take his sister, his father's daughter, or his mother's daughter, and see her unclothedness, and she see his unclothedness; it [is] a wicked thing; and they shall be cut off in the sight of their people: he hath uncovered his sister's unclothedness; he shall bear his iniquity.

Lev 20:27 A man also or woman that hath a familiar spirit, or that is a wizard, shall surely be put to death: they shall stone them with stones: their blood [shall be] upon them.

Lev 21:5 They shall not make baldness upon their head, neither shall they shave off the corner of their beard, nor make any cuttings in their flesh.


Let us deal with this once first they i many more but i don't have time to copy them...

The first part talks about adultery...is it good? Do support people sleeping with other people's wives?

Second part talks about incest..is it good? Will you encourage people sleeping with their sisters or blood relations, can you do same?

Is witchcraft good? Even if you don't believe in it, do you know how dangerous it is?

Would you say that the things that you listed above by you, are they things that you will encourage our children to engage in?

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Re: D by KingEbukaNaija: 4:09pm On Nov 27, 2016
Lennycool:


So guys what do you think, should we really teach our children religion?


The atheists are also religious . Jainism , Buddhism , Christian atheism , Jewish atheism , Confucianism - the adherents are also atheists . In Unitarian Universalism , there are adherents who are atheists .

In Christian atheism like Christian deism , the moral teachings of Christ are accepted while his divinity is rejected .

Please stop the ignorance , it is nauseating .

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Re: D by DeSepiero(m): 4:14pm On Nov 27, 2016
KingEbukaNaija:


For the umpteenth time , this is Judaism - Jewish culture , tradition , religion . This was their culture practiced thousands of years ago , it is now old fashioned and don't apply to Modern day Christians .

This statement of yours implies that the Holy Bible ( the word of God) which Christians consider as ultimate truth contains loads of 'old fashioned' Jewish culture and tradition which 'do not apply to modern day Christians'.

Why?

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Re: D by Nobody: 4:15pm On Nov 27, 2016
LaClicKLaBenDin:


Common bro, of course I am doing the same thing, and it's not in disguise. If you choose one part of the Bible which doesn't even have a bearing on today's world and children to discourage the teaching of religion, then what's stops me from using another part of the Bible which teaches virtues that have very direct and important bearing to today's world and the upbringing of our children?

Now, in all honesty, tell me, the story you brought from the Bible and the part I brought out, which is more important to the upbringing of your kids? Can you do without teaching the those things, even if you don't tell them the Bible says so?

Now, the portion you brought out is very inconsequential to the upbringing of any child, because it has no bearing to their morals and wellness.

Why doesn't the Nigerian government encourage the teaching of Biafran war in schools? It is only someone who has a dubious and sinister motive that will bring up such issues
The point is that no matter what part of the bible you use to teach those children, whether they actually read those chapters or not, they will biased, in the sense that they cannot discern that these actions are wrong, as that would be against God.
Don't you see, that they will support the most barbaric acts if God was named with it.
Religion clouds their ability to think critically

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Re: D by Nobody: 4:17pm On Nov 27, 2016
KingEbukaNaija:


The atheists are also religious . Jainism , Buddhism , Christian atheism , Jewish atheism , Confucianism - the adherents are also atheists . In Unitarian Universalism , there are adherents who are atheists .

In Christian atheism like Christian deism , the moral teachings of Christ are accepted while his divinity is rejected .

Please stop the ignorance , it is nauseating .
Yes religious atheism is also included. It doesn't contradict my point. Anything that teaches children to blindly accept and not question is inherently wrong, even if it is an atheistic religion.

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Re: D by KingEbukaNaija: 4:19pm On Nov 27, 2016
Lennycool:

Yes religious atheism is also included. It doesn't contradict my point. Anything that teaches children to blindly accept and not question is inherently wrong, even if it is an atheistic religion.

You blindly accepted atheism without questioning it , right ?
Re: D by Nobody: 4:20pm On Nov 27, 2016
KingEbukaNaija:


For the umpteenth time , this is Judaism - Jewish culture , tradition , religion . This was their culture practiced thousands of years ago , it is now old fashioned and don't apply to Modern day Christians .
Lol. So now you want to draw a line between the old testament and new?
That is impossible na.
grin grin
The old testament is still a part of Christianity.
Inseparable in fact

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Re: D by EyeHateGod: 4:20pm On Nov 27, 2016
KingEbukaNaija:


For the umpteenth time , this is Judaism - Jewish culture , tradition , religion . This was their culture practiced thousands of years ago , it is now old fashioned and don't apply to Modern day Christians .
Is it not the same Yahweh or does the God the Christian worship different from Yahweh?

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Re: D by Nobody: 4:21pm On Nov 27, 2016
EyeHateGod:

Is it not the same Yahweh or does the God the Christian worship different from Yahweh?
Leave ebuka
grin
Who does he think he's talking to
What is Christianity without the old testament

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Re: D by KingEbukaNaija: 4:22pm On Nov 27, 2016
EyeHateGod:

Is it not the same Yahweh or does the God the Christian worship different from Yahweh?

How does this address the argument
Re: D by EyeHateGod: 4:24pm On Nov 27, 2016
KingEbukaNaija:


How does this address the argument
It addressed it perfectly i will ask again is it not The same Yahweh?

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Re: D by Nobody: 4:28pm On Nov 27, 2016
KingEbukaNaija:


You blindly accepted atheism without questioning it , right ?
grin grin grin
This is the funniest and most stupid comment you've ever made.
grin
I wasn't born an atheist?
I chose it, I didn't blindly accept anything.

Unlike you, who is still trying to defend the religion your parents and society dumped on you at birth.

You would have been a Muslim if your location or parents were changed.
Or a traditional worshiper 200 years ago in nigeria
Or a Hindu or Buddhist if you were born in India today.

Change your location or time of birth drastically enough and you would be in another religion.

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Re: D by KingEbukaNaija: 4:30pm On Nov 27, 2016
Lennycool:

Lol. So now you want to draw a line between the old testament and new?
That is impossible na.
grin grin
The old testament is still a part of Christianity.
Inseparable in fact

ok
Re: D by LaClicKLaBenDin(m): 4:31pm On Nov 27, 2016
Lennycool:

The point is that no matter what part of the bible you use to teach those children, whether they actually read those chapters or not, they will biased, in the sense that they cannot discern that these actions are wrong, as that would be against God.
Don't you see, that they will support the most barbaric acts if God was named with it.
Religion clouds their ability to think critically

Are you concerned about their bias or are you concerned about their morals? Which does the Bible emphasize more on; is it moral uprightness or having a bias against people who are against God?

Why do you think tales of a war which happened thousands of years ago, as narrated in the Bible, will do more harm to our children, than the other religion that is actively committing these barbaric acts even to this day?

How many times this have people been murdered in the name of a particular religion and because of blasphemy? This is just this year. What about the recent beheading incidence?

Where have you heard that Christians kill people for any kind of reason?

I think this thread should be addressing another religion which has a track record of barbaric acts capable of eroding away the moral fabrics of our children.
Re: D by KingEbukaNaija: 4:32pm On Nov 27, 2016
Lennycool:

grin grin grin
This is the funniest and most stupid comment you've ever made.
grin
I wasn't born an atheist?
I chose it, I didn't blindly accept anything.

Unlike you, who is still trying to defend the religion your parents and society dumped on you at birth.

You would have been a Muslim if your location or parents were changed.
Or a traditional worshiper 200 years ago in nigeria
Or a Hindu or Buddhist if you were born in India today.

Change your location or time of birth drastically enough and you would be in another religion.

This is most ignorant comment ever on Nairaland , extremely stupid claim to make

Who told you I blindly accepted Christianity ? Can you provide proof that I was born a Christian ? Do you know if my parents were Christians ?
Re: D by LaClicKLaBenDin(m): 4:33pm On Nov 27, 2016
KingEbukaNaija:


For the umpteenth time , this is Judaism - Jewish culture , tradition , religion . This was their culture practiced thousands of years ago , it is now old fashioned and don't apply to Modern day Christians .

They will always bring it up, so, always expect it.
Re: D by EyeHateGod: 4:33pm On Nov 27, 2016
LaClicKLaBenDin:


The first part talks about adultery...is it good? Do support people sleeping with other people's wives?
The other part talks about killing them is it Good?


Second part talks about incest..is it good? Will you encourage people sleeping with their sisters or blood relations, can you do same?

I don't know what you mean by this it talks about seeing the unclothedness of ur siblings so we should kill them?

And by the way wasn't the world populated by insist Twice in ur Bible Myth?

Is witchcraft good? Even if you don't believe in it, do you know how dangerous it is?

Christians have killed millions of children men and women acussing them of being witch without empirical proof basically millions of innocent life have been killed by Christians including women and Children..

Would you say that the things that you listed above by you, are they things that you will encourage our children to engage in?
Would you say that killing them is what you'll encourage ur children to do how does that different from Islam? Not saying Christianity wasn't like Islam.. it was called the dark Ages

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Re: D by KingEbukaNaija: 4:35pm On Nov 27, 2016
LaClicKLaBenDin:


They will always bring it up, so, always expect it.

They are very sad lonely people , so whenever they need attention they concoct stories , lie , deceive and bring up old rehashed arguments . grin grin
Re: D by EyeHateGod: 4:36pm On Nov 27, 2016
KingEbukaNaija:


You blindly accepted atheism without questioning it , right ?
When someone Question Religion what does it Result to? Why do u need blind faith?
Re: D by LaClicKLaBenDin(m): 4:36pm On Nov 27, 2016
EyeHateGod:

The other part talks about killing them is it Good?

I don't know what you mean by this it talks about seeing the unclothedness of ur siblings so we should kill them?

And by the way wasn't the world populated by insist Twice in ur Bible Myth?

Christians have killed millions of children men and women acussing them of being witch without empirical proof basically millions of innocent life have been killed by Christians including women and Children..

Would you say that killing them is what you'll encourage ur children to do how does that different from Islam? Not saying Christianity wasn't like Islam.. it was called the dark Ages

The problem I have with issues like this is when you ignore my questions and expect me to answer yours...

Answer those questions, and ask me yours, I will do well to answer.

NB: when you say Christians have killed many, please specify.

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