KingEbukaNaija:

* sigh*
Lemme break it down for you
You said heaven is an immaterial realm not in the sky
But jesus ascended into the sky
Since heaven isn't in the realm he should have just disappeared so skeptics like myself would take you guys seriously
This obvious discrepancy in your apologetic tactic indeed shows that heaven was thought to be "in the sky" by the early church
-the tower of Babel
-elijahs ascension with a chariot of fire
-Enoch
-and the ultimate hippie Yeshua

EyeHateGod:

I don't know how many alternate moniker you have on NL

Hahahahaha where is this coming from?

Well to answer your question, I have two: this one and another I created on Thursday. Why?

jonbellion:
* sigh*
Lemme break it down for you
You said heaven is an immaterial realm not in the sky
But jesus ascended into the sky
Since heaven isn't in the realm he should have just disappeared so skeptics like myself would take you guys seriously
This obvious discrepancy in your apologetic tactic indeed shows that heaven was thought to be "in the sky" by the early church
-the tower of Babel
-elijahs ascension with a chariot of fire
-Enoch
-and the ultimate hippie Yeshua

You do realise this flagrant show of impiety is against Nairaland's rules . If you won't refrain from disrespecting people's beliefs I'll ignore you . By the way what do you care .

Jesus' resurrection involved a bodily transformation . Christ got into Heaven through a portal . Portals serve as gateways into dimensions .

LaClicKLaBenDin:


Please, this guy is too shallow for me, I can't come down to his level.

Please I need someone that we can reason on the same frequency with..

No you are running again like you did on the other thread..

LaClicKLaBenDin:

Hahahahaha where is this coming from?
Well to answer your question, I have two: this one and another I created on Thursday. Why?

Hmmm

KingEbukaNaija:

Jesus' resurrection involved a bodily transformation . Christ got into Heaven through a portal . Portals serve as gateways into dimensions .

Portal well this is new

EyeHateGod:

No you are running again like you did on the other thread..


Hmmm

Really? When a conversation makes no sense, I end it. Can't you see we're not talking on the same frequency? I say one thing and you're saying something unrelated... it's tiring bro. I dont know if you understand me, it's tiring.

That's why I love talking to Lennycool anytime, even though we have different views, at least we iron things out as much as we can. That's why I go looking for him on threads while I "run" away from you

EyeHateGod:

Portal well this is new

I have said that numerous times . This is why I told you guys to read , ask questions , make researches , grow in knowledge . Stop the illusory superiority and stop embarrassing yourselves .

LaClicKLaBenDin:


Regardless of the religious intonation to the two stories, they're all right judging by the context of the era that these events took place, and you're intelligent enough to know that. Back then, it was basically survival of the strongest kingdom. How did the Roman empire become that big and extensive, wasn't it through conquest?

Ahh not quite.
The Chinese were mortal men and there God isn't supposed to be all loving or even existent.

Joshua on the other hand was advised by an all loving unchangeable God, and to you this God is very real.
So why would an intelligent and loving God sponsor genocide?
You can't blame it on the time as God is timeless and know all.

KingEbukaNaija:


You do realise this flagrant show of impiety is against Nairaland's rules . If you won't refrain from disrespecting people's beliefs I'll ignore you . By the way what do you care .

Jesus' resurrection involved a bodily transformation . Christ got into Heaven through a portal . Portals serve as gateways into dimensions .

Chaiiii!!!!!!!!!
See cognitive dissonance oooooooo
What is this star trek??

jonbellion:

Chaiiii!!!!!!!!!
See cognitive dissonance oooooooo
What is this star trek??

ok

KingEbukaNaija:


I don't see your point bro . I just told you that misconceptions can lead to questioning the bible . When you question something , it means you have doubts , you are skeptical .

misconception
a view or opinion that is incorrect because based on faulty thinking or understanding.

An example of a misconception in the bible is the location of Heaven . Some Christians believe that heaven is in the sky or that God lives in the sky . Such misconception can lead to doubts . The truth is that God dwells in an immaterial transcendent realm .



Joshua had the jurisdiction from God to execute .

The bolded is the main point and shows why religion is bad.
You jiwt said genocide is good because God commanded it. In your case immorality isn't defined as what causes harm to other humans or the society, its considered anything God says it is.
By this standard there is nothing wrong with human slavery, but premarital sex is bad.

Flawed morals.

KingEbukaNaija:

Jesus' resurrection involved a bodily transformation . Christ got into Heaven through a portal . Portals serve as gateways into dimensions .

Smart, you are using "portal", because u know nothing is in the sky.
So what was the purpose of the tower of babel, metaphor?

KingEbukaNaija:


ok

4kings:

Smart, you are using "portal", because u know nothing is in the sky.
So what was the purpose of the tower of babel, metaphor?

dude the thing just left me dumbfounded

Lennycool:

Ahh not quite.
The Chinese were mortal men and there God isn't supposed to be all loving or even existent.

Joshua on the other hand was advised by an all loving unchangeable God, and to you this God is very real.
So why would an intelligent and loving God sponsor genocide?
You can't blame it on the time as God is timeless and know all.

This actually got me laughing....

One, you don't believe in God or the Bible, so, how do I start explaining the workings of this God to you? Just how? And what will be the objective; to make you believe in him, the Bible, or change your views about religion?

God works and walks with man according to the times. In the garden of Eden when man fell, and realised he was naked, God made clothe of skins for them. Now, if God were to make clothes or provide clothes for me, do you think He will use animal skins in this present age and time? Of course He'd provide Jean and Segreto Shirts...

I still maintain my stand that judging from the context of the times and era, those two stories are normal.

jonbellion:

Chaiiii!!!!!!!!!
See cognitive dissonance oooooooo
What is this star trek??

Ebuka go kill person
Portal ke
What next warp drives?

KingEbukaNaija:


I have said that numerous times . This is why I told you guys to read , ask questions , make researches , grow in knowledge . Stop the illusory superiority and stop embarrassing yourselves .

Please show me where in the Bible you saw this portal..

4kings:

Smart, you are using "portal", because u know nothing is in the sky.
So what was the purpose of the tower of babel, metaphor?

Same thing with the Towel of Babel , men hankered godhood and tried to access a portal to heaven .

A portal is the only logical explanation . Because through portals , you can access dimensions , different planes , different locations in the universe ... and outside the universe .

LaClicKLaBenDin:


Really? When a conversation makes no sense, I end it. Can't you see we're not talking on the same frequency? I say one thing and you're saying something unrelated... it's tiring bro. I dont know if you understand me, it's tiring.

You are the One dissociating yourself from the main point not me but of course you are free to Run am i holding you?

That's why I love talking to Lennycool anytime, even though we have different views, at least we iron things out as much as we can. That's why I go looking for him on threads while I "run" away from you

Isn't this suppose to be none of my business?

KingEbukaNaija:


Same thing with the Towel of Babel , men hankered godhood and tried to access a portal to heaven .

A portal is the only logical explanation . Because through portals , you can access dimensions , different planes , different locations in the universe ... and outside the universe .

So you need to climb ladder b4 you see portal? Wow

EyeHateGod:

So you need to climb ladder b4 you see portal? Wow

Its high time you kept quiet

LaClicKLaBenDin:


This actually got me laughing....

One, you don't believe in God or the Bible, so, how do I start explaining the workings of this God to you? Just how? And what will be the objective; to make you believe in him, the Bible, or change your views about religion?

My guy I once believed in God. All this your excuses are things I would have once made myself.

God works and walks with man according to the times. In the garden of Eden when man fell, and realised he was naked, God made clothe of skins for them. Now, if God were to make clothes or provide clothes for me, do you think He will use animal skins in this present age and time? Of course He'd provide Jean and Segreto Shirts...

First of all working in the times doesn't make him all loving or even good.
From the flood to the Egyptian infanticide God has proven he is anything but all loving
And God is a respecter of no man, he doesn't work in their he creates his own standards. If he didn't then he wouldn't have made any laws.

I still maintain my stand that judging from the context of the times and era, those two stories are normal.

Again God is not a respecter of man. He is timeless, and no matter what time it was, killing innocent people and even children can never be considered good.
I hope one day you'll see how flawed the bible really is. Like I did.

KingEbukaNaija:


Its high time you kept quiet

It's high time you should be ashamed of the rubbish you put on here...

EyeHateGod:

Please show me where in the Bible you saw this portal..

space chronicles chapter 22:14
And whence jesus hath ascendeth up into the clouds. He brought out his space transmittor and called upon the starship USS enterprise
"captain kirk I calleth upon you!!!"
Openeth thy portal so I can escape this dimention and also before George Lucas and the star wars crew catches up because I prefereth star trek"

EyeHateGod:

It's high time you should be ashamed of the rubbish you put on here...

hokay

jonbellion:
space chronicles chapter 22:14
And whence jesus hath ascendeth up into the clouds. He brought out his space transmittor and called upon the starship USS enterprise
"captain kirk I calleth upon you!!!"
Openeth thy portal so I can escape this dimention and also before George Lucas and the star wars crew catches up because I prefereth star trek"

Funny enough , the bible stories precede star wars film series . But its fallacious to claim that the idea must have been copied from the bible since the bible came before it .

Lennycool:

My guy I once believed in God. All this your excuses are things I would have once made myself.


First of all working in the times doesn't make him all loving or even good.
From the flood to the Egyptian infanticide God has proven he is anything but all loving
And God is a respecter of no man, he doesn't work in their he creates his own standards. If he didn't then he wouldn't have made any laws.


Again God is not a respecter of man. He is timeless, and no matter what time it was, killing innocent people and even children can never be considered good.
I hope one day you'll see how flawed the bible really is. Like I did.

Brother, I didn't know what informed your decision to give up on God, but regardless of what it is, just always know that God is God, and God is love. I don't know if you felt let down or something, but it doesn't change the fact that good is good and all He does is done in righteousness.

The Bible isn't flawed, the Bible is a spiritual book that needs a spiritual understanding; it is not just like every book.

From what you said above, I feel more like you believe that He is God, just that you don't see Him as being a loving God, am I correct?

KingEbukaNaija:


Same thing with the Towel of Babel , men hankered godhood and tried to access a portal to heaven .

A portal is the only logical explanation . Because through portals , you can access dimensions , different planes , different locations in the universe ... and outside the universe .

Accessing a portal through a tower?
You have killed me

jonbellion:
space chronicles chapter 22:14
And whence jesus hath ascendeth up into the clouds. He brought out his space transmittor and called upon the starship USS enterprise
"captain kirk I calleth upon you!!!"
Openeth thy portal so I can escape this dimention and also before George Lucas and the star wars crew catches up because I prefereth star trek"

He is going to come back with Space Ship and not Flying Horse..

Apoeremtly Yuri Gagarin, Neil Armstrong, buzz aldrin and the rest of the Apollo 11 crew didn't notice this "portal"

jonbellion:
space chronicles chapter 22:14
And whence jesus hath ascendeth up into the clouds. He brought out his space transmittor and called upon the starship USS enterprise
"captain kirk I calleth upon you!!!"
Openeth thy portal so I can escape this dimention and also before George Lucas and the star wars crew catches up because I prefereth star trek"

You killed it
Jesus left earth to join the uss enterprise.
Lmao
Maybe he went to die for a new specie.
You know the guy is immortal na

Lennycool:

Accessing a portal through a tower?
You have killed me

Christ ascended into the portal right ? That's flight

Those men during the antediluvian period could not have had any flying machines or power to ascend into Heaven to access this portal , so they built a tower .