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Re: Mike Bamiloye Thinks Comedy In The Church Is A Bad Idea by Tony247: 12:05am On Dec 13, 2016
So much as i agree with most of the points raised by the pastor, I believe there is need for humor as long as it does not bring the church and its foundation to disrepute. I believe you can make comedy in the church without trying to ridicule the bible or the basic christian believes.
Re: Mike Bamiloye Thinks Comedy In The Church Is A Bad Idea by mastermaestro(m): 12:23am On Dec 13, 2016
drstone1:


Not a bad idea at all if you are discerning. While the Churches leaders are to primarily give themselves to the Word and feed the sheep spiritually..Man is not entirely spirit. He has a social and physical dimension that needs to be catered for as well. The Ministers even in both Old testament times and in the new testament times recognised this and in their wisdom created departments to handle these externalities. For example, to preach to a call girl to repent from what obviously is a thing of joy and economic survival is stupendous and a huge joke. Will you feed her,clotge her and give her a commensurate standard of living and many others like her, and for how long?? If she is hit with lack and want and d negative stigma that comes with the loss of the means to ' good living' for how long will she hold out when temptations roll. So you need to empower, people, whether they be youths,or whatever to have what it takes to hold out on their own without being additional burden to the Church or other good hearted persons. Same reason why the missionaries established schools and the major games we play today.


The first role of the church is to build souls and not flesh! You build the soul with the Word, prayers and fasting! You don't build it with vain entertainment. The Kingdom is not meat and drink, it is righteousness, peace and joy in the Holy Ghost. The Holy Ghost is no joker, unless you have no idea of who He is. What New Testament departments of externalities are you talking about? Cultural dance, business seminar, sports competition or beauty pageant department?

You almost disgusted with your preposterous use of the word discerning. Every place, in the eyes of a reasonable individual, has its appropriate purpose. Would you take silly jokes to a hospital where doctors are battling to save a life? The church exists to save souls and prepare them to meet JESUS CHRIST. Through jokes? Impossible!

I wonder how one can worship GOD in Spirit and in Truth by stage comedy. All I see here is a generation that has lost reverence for the sanctuary that JESUS whipped some errant traders over because they desecrated it with activities that certainly had nothing to do with worshipping GOD. Lovemaking between a husband and a wife is no sin, but it would be an act of contempt towards GOD if they did it inside a sanctuary.

Stop holding onto to logic. GOD is a consuming fire! Fear Him!

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Re: Mike Bamiloye Thinks Comedy In The Church Is A Bad Idea by donnie(m): 12:44am On Dec 13, 2016
mastermaestro:



The first role of the church is to build souls and not flesh! You build the soul with the Word, prayers and fasting! You don't build it with vain entertainment. The Kingdom is not meat and drink, it is righteousness, peace and joy in the Holy Ghost. The Holy Ghost is no joker, unless you have no idea of who He is. What New Testament departments of externalities are you talking about? Cultural dance, business seminar, sports competition or beauty pageant department?

You almost disgusted with your preposterous use of the word discerning. Every place, in the eyes of a reasonable individual, has its appropriate purpose. Would you take silly jokes to a hospital where doctors are battling to save a life? The church exists to save souls and prepare them to meet JESUS CHRIST. Through jokes? Impossible!

I wonder how one can worship GOD in Spirit and in Truth by stage comedy. All I see here is a generation that has lost reverence for the sanctuary that JESUS whipped some errant traders over because they desecrated it with activities that certainly had nothing to do with worshipping GOD. Lovemaking between a husband and a wife is no sin, but it would be an act of contempt towards GOD if they did it inside a sanctuary.

Stop holding onto to logic. GOD is a consuming fire! Fear Him!


Relax... You are not God.

Yourself know that if God were to be to you how you just decribed, you will not be guiltless.

Many souls are already being won through comedy for your information.

http://victoryisen..com.ng/2015/08/bishop-chikancy-eli-j-and-others-in.html?m=1
Re: Mike Bamiloye Thinks Comedy In The Church Is A Bad Idea by mastermaestro(m): 12:53am On Dec 13, 2016
donnie:



Relax... You are not God.

Yourself know that if God were to be to you how you just decribed, you will not be guiltless.

Many souls are already being won through comedy for your information.

Spare me the overblown lies, please. Nevertheless, fear the LORD, keep His commandments and have considerable respect for His holy sanctuary. GOD is not a comedian!
Re: Mike Bamiloye Thinks Comedy In The Church Is A Bad Idea by donnie(m): 12:54am On Dec 13, 2016
mastermaestro:


Spare me the overblown lies, please. Nevertheless, fear the LORD, keep His commandments and have considerable respect for His holy sanctuary. GOD is not a comedian!

http://victoryisen..com.ng/2015/08/bishop-chikancy-eli-j-and-others-in.html?m=1

https://www.loveworldnews.com/posts/laughing-ovation-with-bishop-chikancy-at-ikoyi-prison?page=6
Re: Mike Bamiloye Thinks Comedy In The Church Is A Bad Idea by hollaytan: 1:23am On Dec 13, 2016
beycity:
I totally agree with all what you said sir.
Instead of the world becoming "churchy", it's the church that is rather becoming "worldly".

u were once an a student of Adams tutorial?
Re: Mike Bamiloye Thinks Comedy In The Church Is A Bad Idea by Ejiro100: 3:11am On Dec 13, 2016
this post was originally written by pastor segun Onayinka of the Saints community Church, goggle it and you will see

you can check him on Facebook Olusegun Onayinka or their church website www.livingwordmedia.org to download free messages.
Re: Mike Bamiloye Thinks Comedy In The Church Is A Bad Idea by mastermaestro(m): 6:43am On Dec 13, 2016
donnie:


http://victoryisen..com.ng/2015/08/bishop-chikancy-eli-j-and-others-in.html?m=1

https://www.loveworldnews.com/posts/laughing-ovation-with-bishop-chikancy-at-ikoyi-prison?page=6

Proverbs 16:25 KJV
"There is a way that seemeth right unto a man, but the end thereof are the ways of death."

That something seems right does not make it right in the sight of GOD. Today, premarital sex seems right amongst young people, watching pornography seems right, masturbation seems right, divorce seems right, just the way homosexuality is seeming right in many countries. When many people start to practice an ill thing, many more people begin to see nothing wrong about it. This is how comedy shows and many others have found their feet in church today.

As for you and many others, it appears right. Dude, the way to eternal life hasn't been broadened to accommodate more wrongs as right. The road is still as narrow as it always has been! (Matthew 7:13-14). Only a few will find, accept and remain in that narrow path.

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Re: Mike Bamiloye Thinks Comedy In The Church Is A Bad Idea by beycity(m): 7:17am On Dec 13, 2016
hollaytan:

u were once an a student of Adams tutorial?
Nope.
Re: Mike Bamiloye Thinks Comedy In The Church Is A Bad Idea by alexiej(m): 7:31am On Dec 13, 2016
gypsey:
tell us we would like to know, MR Righteous! you must know God and the crooked pastor more than they know themselves.
what makes you believe that the fake pastor isn't guilty?

Keep it up dear
Re: Mike Bamiloye Thinks Comedy In The Church Is A Bad Idea by oswardic(m): 7:50am On Dec 13, 2016
They will always go outside of the church once they've used the church as a platform to learn.. Check out every hiphop artist.. Both locally and internationally, majority of them started as a chorister.. Or even comedians you invite today will definitely perform in the club tomorrow if given the opportunity.
mostHandsome01:
comedy in the church is not really a bad thing!!! i have seen alot of comedians in churches and have never seen anyone ridicule Christianity! if at all there are som.peopl who do such!! all thats needed is just strict warnings!!!

NOTE!! IT IS BETTER TO DANCE MAKOSA IN THE CHURCH THAN TO DANCE IT IN THE CLUB! IT IS BETTER TO MAKE THE PEOPLE OF GOD LAUGH THAN MAKING WORLDLY PEOPLE LAUGH.

i encourage young people when i see them going to church to use thier talent for worship. comedians should not be discouraged in churches!! it will only push them out of church!!

then the question will be!!! what then have we gained by sending them out ??
Re: Mike Bamiloye Thinks Comedy In The Church Is A Bad Idea by majorbanti: 8:22am On Dec 13, 2016
these are signs of the end time. the end is here for real. The Bible has said it all, 'if possible the elect would be deceived' it is happening already. we tend to make jest of everything now. Christians, think.!!!!!
Re: Mike Bamiloye Thinks Comedy In The Church Is A Bad Idea by donnie(m): 8:28am On Dec 13, 2016
mastermaestro:


Proverbs 16:25 KJV
"There is a way that seemeth right unto a man, but the end thereof are the ways of death."

That something seems right does not make it right in the sight of GOD. Today, premarital sex seems right amongst young people, watching pornography seems right, masturbation seems right, divorce seems right, just the way homosexuality is seeming right in many countries. When people many more people start to practice an ill thing, more people begin to see nothing wrong about it. This is how comedy shows and many others have found their feet in church today.

As for you and many others, it appears right. Dude, the way to eternal life hasn't been broadened to accommodate more wrongs as right. The road is still as narrow as it always has been! (Matthew 7:13-14). Only a few will find, accept and remain in that narrow path.



Mike Bamiloye is a Christian. It is not difficult to sense the passion and compassion of Christ in the article he wrote.

The same cannot be said of you. It is a known fact that following every genuine move of God are the religious folks (fakes) who seize the opportunity to control others.
They take the place of God and speak with pride in their hearts. They claim to know what should be done, but when it comes to results, they have nothing to show.

You can read my first comment on page 6, then you may consider taking that your preaching somewhere else.
Re: Mike Bamiloye Thinks Comedy In The Church Is A Bad Idea by donnie(m): 8:38am On Dec 13, 2016
oswardic:
They will always go outside of the church once they've used the church as a platform to learn.. Check out every hiphop artist.. Both locally and internationally, majority of them started as a chorister.. Or even comedians you invite today will definitely perform in the club tomorrow if given the opportunity.

That is not always the case. At Christ Embassy, you can find good examples of comedians or musicians whose commitment to the Lord is not in question. Bishop Chikancy, Sinach, Eben, Frank Edwards, Rap nation, Samsung, Buchi etc
Re: Mike Bamiloye Thinks Comedy In The Church Is A Bad Idea by Nobody: 9:26am On Dec 13, 2016
rckdude:


Seriously? Are you saying it's until you give tithes and offering before you can consider yourself to be in the presence of God?

I attended the first 3 Experience and believe me the conveyner had always planned it very big. I'd probably tell you that it's less big now because most people I know have stopped attending for one reason or the other.

My thinking still is, anywhere the name of God is mentioned genuinely, God would be in their midst. So it doesnt matter how you choose to call it, most people go there to worship God - and that makes its a service.

Oga it was not a church service it was in Gods presence but I dont think it was mocking the Lord to have comedic intervals

meaning for word church service
Definition
(noun) a service conducted in a house of worship

Please is TBS a house of worship ? It's a televised Gospel Concert and at concerts to setup the stage you have comedic intervals

Sorry you stopped going it's obvious you missed alot and assume it's a service

It's the comedians themselves you should hold accountable if you feel their jokes where not appropriate. Everyone is responsible for the individual actions here.
Re: Mike Bamiloye Thinks Comedy In The Church Is A Bad Idea by 3mmyz(m): 9:32am On Dec 13, 2016
Well spoken.

Ephesians 5vs4 "Neither filthiness, nor foolish talking, nor jesting, which are not convenient: but rather giving of thanks."

Many churches are practicing laid out doctrines created by men who claimed to be pastors and bishops and have failed to follow the doctrines of Christ, documented in the Holy Bible.

For most people who see no wrong reasons in this should clearly have rethink.
Being saved doesn't come easy, making jests in God's house ain't worship.
Re: Mike Bamiloye Thinks Comedy In The Church Is A Bad Idea by damosky12(m): 9:59am On Dec 13, 2016
seunny4lif:

Save yourself first before saving others
Save your Economy

Economy does not count in the realms of eternity. It is too temporal. Your life matters. Jesus paid the price to save you. Don't let it go in vain.

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Re: Mike Bamiloye Thinks Comedy In The Church Is A Bad Idea by rckdude: 10:10am On Dec 13, 2016
solasoulmusic:


Oga it was not a church service it was in Gods presence but I dont think it was mocking the Lord to have comedic intervals

meaning for word church service
Definition
(noun) a service conducted in a house of worship

Please is TBS a house of worship ? It's a televised Gospel Concert and at concerts to setup the stage you have comedic intervals

Sorry you stopped going it's obvious you missed alot and assume it's a service

It's the comedians themselves you should hold accountable if you feel their jokes where not appropriate. Everyone is responsible for the individual actions here.

You can't use a dictionary to define a church.
The church is not a building neither is it a location. The church is a gathering of believers (Jesus says wherever two or more are gathered in His name He will be with them) . So except you say the attendees of the experience are not Christians, then I will agree with you that they can jest all night long but they still shouldn't joke about spiritual thing though.

It can never be right to use the word of God as joke, it's not right to joke about the Holy Spirit...

But I guess you don't see anything wrong in these things so I will leave you to your opinion. Ever wonder why Jesus drove away the money changers? Oh! Sorry I guess your answer would still be that Jesus drove them away from a temple right?

It's well.

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Re: Mike Bamiloye Thinks Comedy In The Church Is A Bad Idea by Nobody: 10:37am On Dec 13, 2016
rckdude:


You can't use a dictionary to define a church.
The church is not a building neither is it a location. The church is a gathering of believers (Jesus says wherever two or more are gathered in His name He will be with them) . So except you say the attendees of the experience are not Christians, then I will agree with you that they can jest all night long but they still shouldn't joke about spiritual thing though.

It can never be right to use the word of God as joke, it's not right to joke about the Holy Spirit...

But I guess you don't see anything wrong in these things so I will leave you to your opinion. Ever wonder why Jesus drove away the money changers? Oh! Sorry I guess your answer would still be that Jesus drove them away from a temple right?

It's well.

Nawa for you Baba just admit it the guy dey rant untop matter wey no dey. Write about illegal church structures endangering lives. Bad belle dey smell

Mention their name not the organizers
Re: Mike Bamiloye Thinks Comedy In The Church Is A Bad Idea by Bustincole(m): 11:18am On Dec 13, 2016
I am at Anger (AYAMATANGA)

Re: Mike Bamiloye Thinks Comedy In The Church Is A Bad Idea by rckdude: 11:41am On Dec 13, 2016
solasoulmusic:


Nawa for you Baba just admit it the guy dey rant untop matter wey no dey. Write about illegal church structures endangering lives. Bad belle dey smell

Mention their name not the organizers

Am loosing our discussion now, what is the bad belle there. No sensible Christian would support illegal structures collapsing - this leads to physical death. But making mockery of sacred things leads to spiritual death in itself.

The organisers gave them a podium to make mockery of God same way a pastor risks members lives by gathering their flock in an unstable building.

Both are wrong.

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Re: Mike Bamiloye Thinks Comedy In The Church Is A Bad Idea by Ajixegun: 11:48am On Dec 13, 2016
I have always dislike inviting comedian to church programmes or into the church to perform. It looks ridiculous to me.
Re: Mike Bamiloye Thinks Comedy In The Church Is A Bad Idea by Nobody: 11:56am On Dec 13, 2016
rckdude:


Am loosing our discussion now, what is the bad belle there. No sensible Christian would support illegal structures collapsing - this leads to physical death. But making mockery of sacred things leads to spiritual death in itself.

The organisers gave them a podium to make mockery of God same way a pastor risks members lives by gathering their flock in an unstable building.

Both are wrong.

They gave them the podium but they made the decision to say what they wanted to why isn't he mentioning the comedians name why the organizers

My point is issues dey that need the ministers attention but he is more concerned with what another person did a week ago

Rapture go come some go dey type
Re: Mike Bamiloye Thinks Comedy In The Church Is A Bad Idea by Nobody: 5:50pm On Dec 13, 2016
gypsey:
Ofcourse No! to all listed Above but, if my parents are fat i will tell them to loose some weight
You seem to b a tough pikin...
Re: Mike Bamiloye Thinks Comedy In The Church Is A Bad Idea by Nobody: 7:04pm On Dec 13, 2016
Beckino:

You seem to b a tough pikin...
yes! i can be opinionated, not all the time though, grin i believe that people should be capable Able to have their own view on all issues, regardless wether they are our parents or we are their parents because we are all unique. Ciao grin
Re: Mike Bamiloye Thinks Comedy In The Church Is A Bad Idea by oswardic(m): 12:26pm On Dec 14, 2016
This is a case of few admist many. TerryG was a choir master in RCCG, R.Kelly was a chorister, I can't mention more at this time..
donnie:


That is not always the case. At Christ Embassy, you can find good examples of comedians or musicians whose commitment to the Lord is not in question. Bishop Chikancy, Sinach, Eben, Frank Edwards, Rap nation, Samsung, Buchi etc
Re: Mike Bamiloye Thinks Comedy In The Church Is A Bad Idea by lionson(m): 1:33am On Dec 20, 2016
Pst. Bamiloye has a thriving drama ministry, right? Why is he trying to bring down another arm of ministry? I recently watched a comedian after ministering in jokes (which never made mockery of what Christianity stands for) he then introduced Jesus Christ in a very resourceful way which made the crowd to cheer before he now made an altar call. And I was totally amazed at the number of respondents. I was like wow!
So Pst. I believe what you should be asking is for comedians to be more spiritual in their delivery especially when it comes to ministering in churches as church is not a social event. I rest my case.
Re: Mike Bamiloye Thinks Comedy In The Church Is A Bad Idea by donnie(m): 7:51am On Dec 23, 2016
mastermaestro:



The first role of the church is to build souls and not flesh! You build the soul with the Word, prayers and fasting! You don't build it with vain entertainment. The Kingdom is not meat and drink, it is righteousness, peace and joy in the Holy Ghost. The Holy Ghost is no joker, unless you have no idea of who He is. What New Testament departments of externalities are you talking about? Cultural dance, business seminar, sports competition or beauty pageant department?

You almost disgusted with your preposterous use of the word discerning. Every place, in the eyes of a reasonable individual, has its appropriate purpose. Would you take silly jokes to a hospital where doctors are battling to save a life? The church exists to save souls and prepare them to meet JESUS CHRIST. Through jokes? Impossible!

I wonder how one can worship GOD in Spirit and in Truth by stage comedy. All I see here is a generation that has lost reverence for the sanctuary that JESUS whipped some errant traders over because they desecrated it with activities that certainly had nothing to do with worshipping GOD. Lovemaking between a husband and a wife is no sin, but it would be an act of contempt towards GOD if they did it inside a sanctuary.

Stop holding onto to logic. GOD is a consuming fire! Fear Him!

The fasting and intercession for souls is done before you meet the souls.. not on the pulpit. When done effectively, even a smile can win souls for Christ because of the compassion and anointing that will be oozing out of you.

You cannot put God in a box, dont even try.
Re: Mike Bamiloye Thinks Comedy In The Church Is A Bad Idea by orisa37: 1:02pm On Dec 23, 2016
May God forgive us all. AMEN.
Re: Mike Bamiloye Thinks Comedy In The Church Is A Bad Idea by Amicable24: 3:09pm On Dec 24, 2016
sweery:

Must you quote everything just to write two words?


@post I don't see anything bad with comedy in church.

Jesus christ died to give us LIBERTY.I don't know why some christians tend to cage themselves in becausé of dogmas/doctrines backward and limiting mentalities.


To those mentioning me just know i ain't gon reply you. undecided
Sure dear, Jesus gave us Liberty but it's just silly to make jests which are inconvenient.. Using Jesus/God's Name in vain is not acceptable at all.. The way comedians make jokes using the Scripture and God's Name is far from what God wants/requires from us..
Thank u.

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