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Revelation1:
.Take note; I'm not talking about the fallen angels who were defeated in battle by the Arch angel Michael. I'm talking about demons, witches and wizard. Let's go to the book of Genenis chapter 1 vs 21. And GOD created sea whales, and every living creature that moveth, which the waters brought forth abudantly, after their kind, and every winged fowl after his kind; and saw that it was good. Let it be known to you that Genesis 1vs21 was making reference to the great sea monster Leviathan or Behometh and other sea creatures. Follow me to the book of Isaiah chapter 27vs1. At that time, the lord will judge Leviathan* the crooked snake. The Lord will use his great sword, his hard and powerful sword, to punish Leviathan, the coiled snake. Leviathan is a great sea monster it can be in form of serpent, whale or crocodile. God created serpent the father of all demons, so does it mean that God was the creator of demons since Leviathan was created by him? Honest answer pls. Kingebukasblog, 4evergod, Wiigrea7, Amalice9, Anas09.

victorazy:
Noooo!
The Plan-B life has ultimate prize tag,
"If you win, u will be a god" like Ogun, Sungu, Amadioha etc. But in pro-life of God.

chieveboy:
Am an Eckist and a former Christian.

What should come to your attention is that most things being thought are not factual especially the 'demon' myth.

Actually a 'demon' is for instance your brother, friend etc who died (translated) but feels they still have unfinished business on earth, this could be deep crave for sex, attachment to a wife or husband, money etc. The 'discarnate entity' hangs around places to find a body to use...and be used!

If you find your self 'out there' you will see that there is no such thing as 'Demon', just some folks who couldn't 'pass through' to the proper place, they hang around just above the physical world.

PS: since everything must have a name, it is justifiable to call these entities "demons". But it's important to know the intricacies of what made them what they are...as in, God didn't set out to create some beings known as demons.

Revelation1:
If you don't have the answer to my question then leave the thread, I'm a christian but i dont think that God created demons and brought them into existence.

supereagle:
You have skills that can get you money on Fiever . Look for someone who can put you through.

hardeycute:
its no gain then cause i dnt find it meaningful

holatoj:
REVELATION 4:11
KJV

King James Bible
Thou art worthy, O Lord, to receive glory and
honour and power: for thou hast created all
things, and for thy pleasure they are and
were created......


you must learn to understand that God created all things ,everything..... and not only that in good did he created them/it....


Lucifer was an archangel in charge of worship, he was a custodian of light ......perfectly made and he had access to the throne room better than others.....


his fall was because of his Pride....scriptures says something bout this...

Isaiah 14:13-15 King James Version (KJV)
For thou hast said in thine heart, I will
ascend into heaven, I will exalt my throne
above the stars of God: I will sit also upon
the mount of the congregation, in the sides of
the north:
I will ascend above the heights of the
clouds; I will be like the most High.
Yet thou shalt be brought down to hell, to
the sides of the pit.


In the course of his rebellion 1/3 (one third of the angels in heaven) rebelled with him n they all fell together.....

in the course of their rebellion there were certain felloe archangel or more powerful than the normal angels that did this with Lucifer...leviathan, mammon,belzebub,apollyon (all this are in the Bible)
and other normal angels carrying out services that rebelled with him.....

They are spirits ,and when they gain their entrance into the life of anybody that is when we talk of being possessed.... its either willingly (realm of wizards, witches,magicians) or just a victim......

everything ,think wide ,everything is created by God.....
if you want more understanding about this structures of the satanic world.....
1) u must partner with the Holy spirit to guide you
2) very rich books n the bible to study....


the problem is that when we believers Start talking about this issue of darkness n its realm....critics think we are wrong ,we are going out of line,we don't need it,it might affect us....u don't know that "when you understand the structure of a system access n power is granted unto you to challenge that system....

many believes walk around thinking or with the mindset that Satan/@devil is the opposite of God which is NO...even it was a fellow archangel that fought off Lucifer n drove him away....when u walk with this mind set that u are not fighting the opposite of God you have more access...... Satan has a a birthday....Infact scriptures says that u are above Satan as a believer..(critics will talk on this) ....

do you know that as MAN in general according to the hierarchy of God.....u are (we) are above the 24 elders in heaven ,above the 4 beast in the throne room and Christ is above us.....seek for correct knowledge (epignosis)...

Anas09:
Okay then.

Well, first off. God did not create Demons, He created beautiful awesome and exceedingly powerful creatures called Angels.

Their rebellion and proceedings turned them to demons.

Now, for us to understand this, let's see from the Scriptures that God created Angels.

And of the angels he saith, Who maketh his angels spirits, and his ministers a flame of fire.
Hebrews:1:7

God created Lucifer who became satan/devil/demon, just like he created all other Angels.

Ezekiel 28:13-17 You lived in Eden, the garden of God, and wore gems of every kind: rubies and diamonds;

topaz, beryl, carnelian, and jasper; sapphires, emeralds, and garnets. You had ornaments of gold. They were made for you on the day you were created. I put a terrifying angel there to guard you.

You lived on my holy mountain and walked among sparkling gems.

Your conduct was perfect from the day you were created until you began to do evil. You were busy buying and selling, and this led you to violence and sin.

So I forced you to leave my holy mountain, and the angel who guarded you drove you away from the sparkling gems.

You were proud of being handsome, and your fame made you act like a fool.

Because of this I hurled you to the ground and left you as a warning to other kings.

Here, the Holy Spirit tells us how lucifer was decorated. Above other Angels, in everything, he was decorated.

Beauty, Wisdom, Splendor got into his head and here is what Pride made him do.

How art thou fallen from heaven, O Lucifer, son of the morning! how art thou cut down to the ground, which didst weaken the nations!

For thou hast said in thine heart, I will ascend into heaven, I will exalt my throne above the stars of God: I will sit also upon the mount of the congregation, in the sides of the north:


I will ascend above the heights of the clouds; I will be like the most High.


Yet thou shalt be brought down to hell, to the sides of the pit.
Isaiah:14: 10 -15

When he fell this is how many Angels he took down with him.


Revelation 12:4 With his tail he dragged a third of the stars out of the sky and threw them down to the earth. He stood in front of the woman, in order to eat her child as soon as it was born.

I don't know what "A third" of the Stars (Angels) amounted to, but i know that that's a huge number of Angels he took down with him


Now, when they Fell, did Satan's agenda of being God died? No.

Now, remember, satan is not Omnipresence, meaning he can't be everywhere at the same time, what do you think he did?

He apportioned his demons to act as gods in all the religions of world. He possessed some humans and made them become very cruel to others.

People like, Muhammed of Arabia, Adolf Hitler, Mau SeTung, etc.

Yes, rulership, kingship, dominance is why satan fell from grace, but here man is, a naive creature with a kingdom, so satan deceived him by distracting him, when man fell, he took over the kingdom God created for man and has been ruling man ever since.

Remeber, even God can not operate and function in this material world without a material body, hence he possesses people by the (Holy Spirit). Satan also being a spirit or his demons can not function in this world without a physical body, hence, evil possession.


The body is like a cloth that we wear. The spirits wear our bodies in other to walk in this physical world.

Now, the activities of this Spirits, good or bad, makes them who or what they are.

There's just one Holy Spirit because he is Omnipresence. There are somany demons because they are not. They had to scather themselves everywhere men are found, in order to subdue man under the dominance of Satan.


They possess men and make man do evil to make man responsible and sinful before God, with the the sole aim of taking man to hellfire.

Do you know why he does that?

Satan knows how much God loves man. Hurt man is hurt God deeply. So, he makes man turn against God. Satan knowing how the supernatural laws work, knows that, without willingness and responsibility, it's not possible to lay allegations agaisnt a man, So Satan makes man be willing and respinsible for his actions.


So, yes, Fallen Angels, are demons. Witches are human beings possessed by demons.

And God created All.

Anas09:
Okay then.

Well, first off. God did not create Demons, He created beautiful awesome and exceedingly powerful creatures called Angels.

Their rebellion and proceedings turned them to demons.

Now, for us to understand this, let's see from the Scriptures that God created Angels.

And of the angels he saith, Who maketh his angels spirits, and his ministers a flame of fire.
Hebrews:1:7

God created Lucifer who became satan/devil/demon, just like he created all other Angels.

Ezekiel 28:13-17 You lived in Eden, the garden of God, and wore gems of every kind: rubies and diamonds;

topaz, beryl, carnelian, and jasper; sapphires, emeralds, and garnets. You had ornaments of gold. They were made for you on the day you were created. I put a terrifying angel there to guard you.

You lived on my holy mountain and walked among sparkling gems.

Your conduct was perfect from the day you were created until you began to do evil. You were busy buying and selling, and this led you to violence and sin.

So I forced you to leave my holy mountain, and the angel who guarded you drove you away from the sparkling gems.

You were proud of being handsome, and your fame made you act like a fool.

Because of this I hurled you to the ground and left you as a warning to other kings.

Here, the Holy Spirit tells us how lucifer was decorated. Above other Angels, in everything, he was decorated.

Beauty, Wisdom, Splendor got into his head and here is what Pride made him do.

How art thou fallen from heaven, O Lucifer, son of the morning! how art thou cut down to the ground, which didst weaken the nations!

For thou hast said in thine heart, I will ascend into heaven, I will exalt my throne above the stars of God: I will sit also upon the mount of the congregation, in the sides of the north:


I will ascend above the heights of the clouds; I will be like the most High.


Yet thou shalt be brought down to hell, to the sides of the pit.
Isaiah:14: 10 -15

When he fell this is how many Angels he took down with him.


Revelation 12:4 With his tail he dragged a third of the stars out of the sky and threw them down to the earth. He stood in front of the woman, in order to eat her child as soon as it was born.

I don't know what "A third" of the Stars (Angels) amounted to, but i know that that's a huge number of Angels he took down with him


Now, when they Fell, did Satan's agenda of being God died? No.

Now, remember, satan is not Omnipresence, meaning he can't be everywhere at the same time, what do you think he did?

He apportioned his demons to act as gods in all the religions of world. He possessed some humans and made them become very cruel to others.

People like, Muhammed of Arabia, Adolf Hitler, Mau SeTung, etc.

Yes, rulership, kingship, dominance is why satan fell from grace, but here man is, a naive creature with a kingdom, so satan deceived him by distracting him, when man fell, he took over the kingdom God created for man and has been ruling man ever since.

Remeber, even God can not operate and function in this material world without a material body, hence he possesses people by the (Holy Spirit). Satan also being a spirit or his demons can not function in this world without a physical body, hence, evil possession.


The body is like a cloth that we wear. The spirits wear our bodies in other to walk in this physical world.

Now, the activities of this Spirits, good or bad, makes them who or what they are.

There's just one Holy Spirit because he is Omnipresence. There are somany demons because they are not. They had to scather themselves everywhere men are found, in order to subdue man under the dominance of Satan.


They possess men and make man do evil to make man responsible and sinful before God, with the the sole aim of taking man to hellfire.

Do you know why he does that?

Satan knows how much God loves man. Hurt man is hurt God deeply. So, he makes man turn against God. Satan knowing how the supernatural laws work, knows that, without willingness and responsibility, it's not possible to lay allegations agaisnt a man, So Satan makes man be willing and respinsible for his actions.


So, yes, Fallen Angels, are demons. Witches are human beings possessed by demons.

And God created All.

Anas09:
Okay then.

Well, first off. God did not create Demons, He created beautiful awesome and exceedingly powerful creatures called Angels.

Their rebellion and proceedings turned them to demons.

Now, for us to understand this, let's see from the Scriptures that God created Angels.

And of the angels he saith, Who maketh his angels spirits, and his ministers a flame of fire.
Hebrews:1:7

God created Lucifer who became satan/devil/demon, just like he created all other Angels.

Ezekiel 28:13-17 You lived in Eden, the garden of God, and wore gems of every kind: rubies and diamonds;

topaz, beryl, carnelian, and jasper; sapphires, emeralds, and garnets. You had ornaments of gold. They were made for you on the day you were created. I put a terrifying angel there to guard you.

You lived on my holy mountain and walked among sparkling gems.

Your conduct was perfect from the day you were created until you began to do evil. You were busy buying and selling, and this led you to violence and sin.

So I forced you to leave my holy mountain, and the angel who guarded you drove you away from the sparkling gems.

You were proud of being handsome, and your fame made you act like a fool.

Because of this I hurled you to the ground and left you as a warning to other kings.

Here, the Holy Spirit tells us how lucifer was decorated. Above other Angels, in everything, he was decorated.

Beauty, Wisdom, Splendor got into his head and here is what Pride made him do.

How art thou fallen from heaven, O Lucifer, son of the morning! how art thou cut down to the ground, which didst weaken the nations!

For thou hast said in thine heart, I will ascend into heaven, I will exalt my throne above the stars of God: I will sit also upon the mount of the congregation, in the sides of the north:


I will ascend above the heights of the clouds; I will be like the most High.


Yet thou shalt be brought down to hell, to the sides of the pit.
Isaiah:14: 10 -15

When he fell this is how many Angels he took down with him.


Revelation 12:4 With his tail he dragged a third of the stars out of the sky and threw them down to the earth. He stood in front of the woman, in order to eat her child as soon as it was born.

I don't know what "A third" of the Stars (Angels) amounted to, but i know that that's a huge number of Angels he took down with him


Now, when they Fell, did Satan's agenda of being God died? No.

Now, remember, satan is not Omnipresence, meaning he can't be everywhere at the same time, what do you think he did?

He apportioned his demons to act as gods in all the religions of world. He possessed some humans and made them become very cruel to others.

People like, Muhammed of Arabia, Adolf Hitler, Mau SeTung, etc.

Yes, rulership, kingship, dominance is why satan fell from grace, but here man is, a naive creature with a kingdom, so satan deceived him by distracting him, when man fell, he took over the kingdom God created for man and has been ruling man ever since.

Remeber, even God can not operate and function in this material world without a material body, hence he possesses people by the (Holy Spirit). Satan also being a spirit or his demons can not function in this world without a physical body, hence, evil possession.


The body is like a cloth that we wear. The spirits wear our bodies in other to walk in this physical world.

Now, the activities of this Spirits, good or bad, makes them who or what they are.

There's just one Holy Spirit because he is Omnipresence. There are somany demons because they are not. They had to scather themselves everywhere men are found, in order to subdue man under the dominance of Satan.


They possess men and make man do evil to make man responsible and sinful before God, with the the sole aim of taking man to hellfire.

Do you know why he does that?

Satan knows how much God loves man. Hurt man is hurt God deeply. So, he makes man turn against God. Satan knowing how the supernatural laws work, knows that, without willingness and responsibility, it's not possible to lay allegations agaisnt a man, So Satan makes man be willing and respinsible for his actions.


So, yes, Fallen Angels, are demons. Witches are human beings possessed by demons.

And God created All.

hardeycute:
like this,to twist a mind against HIM

kio052001:
GREED
Lucifer whom we all know as the Devil created the demons to assist him make sure that more humans to make it to heaven

the demons are human beings just like me and you know humans can do wonders when a reward is involved

which brings us back to GREED

Revelation1:
Lets talk about demons.

iamFaity:
some questions are better left unanswered.

Anas09:
Okay then.

Well first off God did not create Demons, He created beautiful awesome and exceedingly powerful creatures called Angels.

Their rebellion and proceedings turned them to demons.

Now, for us to understand this, let's see from the Scriptures that God created Angels.

And of the angels he saith, Who maketh his angels spirits, and his ministers a flame of fire.
Hebrews:1:7

God created Lucifer who became satan/devil/demon, just like he created all other Angels.

Ezekiel 28:13-17 You lived in Eden, the garden of God, and wore gems of every kind: rubies and diamonds;

topaz, beryl, carnelian, and jasper; sapphires, emeralds, and garnets. You had ornaments of gold. They were made for you on the day you were created. I put a terrifying angel there to guard you.

You lived on my holy mountain and walked among sparkling gems.

Your conduct was perfect from the day you were created until you began to do evil. You were busy buying and selling, and this led you to violence and sin.

So I forced you to leave my holy mountain, and the angel who guarded you drove you away from the sparkling gems.

You were proud of being handsome, and your fame made you act like a fool.

Because of this I hurled you to the ground and left you as a warning to other kings.

Here, the Holy Spirit tells us how lucifer was decorated. Above other Angels, in everything, he was decorated.

Beauty, Wisdom, Splendor got into his head and here is what Pride made him do.

How art thou fallen from heaven, O Lucifer, son of the morning! how art thou cut down to the ground, which didst weaken the nations!

For thou hast said in thine heart, I will ascend into heaven, I will exalt my throne above the stars of God: I will sit also upon the mount of the congregation, in the sides of the north:


I will ascend above the heights of the clouds; I will be like the most High.


Yet thou shalt be brought down to hell, to the sides of the pit.
Isaiah:14: 10 -15

When he fell this is how many Angels he took down with him.


Revelation 12:4 With his tail he dragged a third of the stars out of the sky and threw them down to the earth. He stood in front of the woman, in order to eat her child as soon as it was born.

I don't know what "A third" of the Stars (Angels) amounted to, but i know that that's a huge number of Angels he took down with him


Now, when they Fell, did Satan's agenda of being God died? No.

Now, remember, satan is not Omnipresence, meaning he can't be everywhere at the same time, what do you think he did?

He apportioned his demons to act as gods in all the religions of world. He possessed some humans and made them become very cruel to others.

People like, Muhammed of Arabia, Adolf Hitler, Mau SeTung, etc.

Yes, rulership, kingship, dominance is why satan fell from grace, but here man is, a naive creature with a kingdom, so satan deceived him by distracting him, when man fell, he took over the kingdom God created for man and has been ruling man ever since.

Remeber, even God can not operate and function in this material world without a material body, hence he possesses people by the (Holy Spirit). Satan also being a spirit or his demons can not function in this world without a physical body, hence, evil possession.


The body is like a cloth that we wear. The spirits wear our bodies in other to walk in this physical world.

Now, the activities of this Spirits, good or bad, makes them who or what they are.

There's just one Holy Spirit because he is Omnipresence. There are somany demons because they are not. They had to scather themselves everywhere men are found, in order to subdue man under the dominance of Satan.


They possess men and make man do evil to make man responsible and sinful before God, with the the sole aim of taking man to hellfire.

Do you know why he does that?

Satan knows how much God loves man. Hurt man is hurt God deeply. So, he makes man turn against God. Satan knowing how the supernatural laws work, knows that, without willingness and responsibility, it's not possible to lay allegations agaisnt a man, So Satan makes man be willing and respinsible for his actions.


So, yes, Fallen Angels, are demons. Witches are human beings possessed by demons.

And God created All.

lawani:
HOW DID CRIMINALS AND THUGS COME INTO EXISTENCE? WHO CREATED THEM?

parisienne:
Nice explanation but you didn't talk about the ones we made ourselves from our minds/imaginations etc. I have forgotten what they are actually called.

somehowpenis:
if light do have a source, then Darkness must have a source, and if Darkness do have a source then God must have a source.. God is not a being, God is the Default.. darkness and God were existing, and God was roaming in the darkness, nothing else just both Elements.. The Holy book makes us understand God was moving like a whirlwind.. if you say Darkness is the default and Stars light everything up then what color was God before the stars were created? Or was God Darkness? And would you think God is the one whom after creating all his angels , possessed Lucifer into challenging him? And who created the tree of good , knowledge and evil in the garden, which God seriously warned Adam and Eve not to eat of it... I think Darkness is a force as powerful as God , but My believe makes me understand God is much more powerful than it all which I agree,.. the Armageddon war being proclaimed in the Bible, I believe is not actually between God and Lucifer , cos lucifer is just a fallen angel, but between God, his people and Darkness and his people...

Revelation1:
I thought demons are different from fallen angel? Did fallen angels later transformed to demons?

missluv:
Ehn En...So Its Ur Father That Now Created Them Abi

real691:
GOD created lucifer and he turned against HIM, HE created man and we turned against HIM, HE created angels and some turned against HIM............ GOD created all things good but some turned against their creator *simple* ..........

hahn:
Did god know that the things he was about to create will eventually turn against him?

hardballripplez:
Christianity in no way makes sense. There is no proper understanding of who God is. And before you talk about the Prophet Muhammad(PEACE BE UPON HIM). yOU ought to first read about him from primary sources, not from fox news.

To answer the question because Christians don't have the answers coz they don't know.
God knows everything. He knows that is hidden and what is apparent, He knows what has happened and what will happen and of course, He knows the devil(satan) better than satan himself because it was God who created him. And if you bring up this nonsensical talk of some angels who fell and moved against God, then this means that in fact God is not in control of his creatures and therefore there is a power split between God and the devil, in which case, this means that the Satan has some kind of power. Satan has no power and he has no control whatsoever. he his dependent on God, and God who created him knew the kind of being that he was. why did God create the Satan and the devils? . These creatures were created in order to serve as a test for the human beings. it was God who himself created evil. come to think of it. the christians believe satan was trying to usurp God, and he has his own army. this kind of thinking is wacky and irrational. Satan himself is fearful of God. you Christians should think of it this way: since you guys believe that Satan has some power, what if this Satan defeats your god( i seek refuge with God from this) and his angels coz from calculations more people should go to hell and therefore the satan will have a bigger army. so, what if this satan defeats your god? what would happen to the universe and the creation? will god be imprisoned? have you ever thought about that?
BACK TO WHAT I WAS TALKING ABOUT, God created evil for a reason. Just as He created good for a reason.

God says in surah al falaq( Quran 113): " Say, I seek refuge in the lord of the daybreak. from the evil of that which He created. from the evil of darkness when it settles. and from the evil of malignant witchcraft. and from the evil of the envier whenever he practices his envy. This gives a succinct explanation, and this is rational.

The devil was able to disobey God because he has free-will unlike the angels. This free will is also what we humans possess. we are given the option to understand and choose between what is good and what is bad, between what is right and what is wrong.
when the devil disobeyed God, then he became a disbeliever, and understanding that all power and sovereignty belongs ONLY to GOD , AND that he the devil was doomed and powerless. Instead of seeking for forgiveness he( Satan) said: (surah Al Hijri, Quran 14)... My Lord! give me respite till the day of judgement( don't kill or destroy me, give me longevity so that i will remain till the day of judgement). in the following verse Allah said to him: " So indeed you are of those reprieved". then the devil said: My lord, because I have falling into error( He won't seek for forgiveness becasue of pride), then surely I will make disobedience attractive to them on earth and I will lead them all astray, except your choosen servants amongst them. then in verse 42, Allah replied him" Indeed, My servants, no authority will you have over them, except those who follow you of the deviators, and indeed hell is the promised place for them all. This was what happened and this is the truth. also, there is a caveat: the devil will only lead astray those who themselves are ready to disobey God.

Contrary to the belief of the Christians that the devil will have a section in the hereafter( hell), where he will punish those who are thrown into hell. This doesn't make any sense, even from rational thinking. The devil was the one who misled people? made them do bad things? he, himself disobeyed God. then he will be the one to punish people again? This is absolute nonsense. The devil himself will be punished in hell and he will be fearful. The devil has no power whatsoever and i really think it would be good if we made use of our thinking faculty and discern truth from falsehood.
May Allah guide to the straight path( ISLAM)!!!!

chiraqDemon:
Lucie tortured human souls that went to hell and made them twisted
They can b killed by an angel's blade, the firsr blade, the colt,
They can b exorcised by chanting thus
English Translation
Exorcizamus te, omnis immundus spiritus
omnis satanica potestas, omnis incursio
infernalis adversarii, omnis legio,
omnis congregatio et secta diabolica.
Ergo draco maledicte [*a]
et omnis legio diabolica
adjuramus te.
Cessa decipere humanas creaturas,
eisque aeternae Perditionis venenum propinare.

Vade, Satana, inventor et magister
omnis fallaciae, hostis humanae salutis.
Humiliare sub potenti manu dei,
contremisce et effuge, invocato a
nobis sancto et terribili nomine,
quem inferi tremunt.

Ab insidiis diaboli, libera nos, Domine.
Ut Ecclesiam tuam secura tibi facias libertate servire
te rogamus, audi nos.
Ut inimicos sanctae Ecclesiae humiliare digneris,
te rogamus, audi nos.

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