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Re: The Shameful Display Of Hypocrisy By NL Theists by OLAADEGBU(m): 5:32pm On Mar 11, 2017 |
4everGod: They know it but will rather bury their heads in the sand. |
Re: The Shameful Display Of Hypocrisy By NL Theists by OLAADEGBU(m): 5:42pm On Mar 11, 2017 |
ScepticalPyrrho: There is no assumption in my claim that the God of the Bible created all things and I can use the laws of logic and science to prove this: There are only three possibilities from where the universe can come from. By way of elimination we will arrive at the scientific evidence of the origin of the universe. It is either: (1). The universe created itself; or (2). The universe has always existed, or (3). The universe was created. 1. The universe created itself: Can something create itself? Can nothing create something? The answer to these is an absolute No. We all know that something cannot create itself and nothing can't create something. From Latin we have the phrase "ex nihilo, nihil fit" meaning "from nothing, nothing comes." It also violates the law of cause and effect, that says for every effect there must be a cause. The effect can't be greater than the cause and nothing cannot be greater than something. Therefore, based on the laws of science and logic, the universe couldn't have created itself. That leaves us with options 2 and 3. 2. The univese has always existed: Lets go to the 2nd law of thermodynamics that basically teaches that "the whole universe is losing usable energy for doing usable work." This means that the usable energy in this universe is wearing down. The universe as a whole is losing energy. In other words, molecules as a whole are slowing down. Therefore, if this universe was eternal we will be in what is called a "virtual heat death." This means that there will be virtually no molecular movement. Everything would have lost its available heat energy for doing work. Therefore, the universe cannot be eternal, it must have had a beginning. The theory that the universe has always existed or is eternal has to be false based on the law of science and logic. This leaves us with only one possibility based on science. And this is: 3. The universe was created: "In the Beginning God created the heaven and the earth." -- Genesis 1:1 Science confirms the biblical verse that in the beginning God created the heaven and the earth as we have just shown. With this verse we see that God is outside time. He is eternal, with no beginning or end. He also knows all things, being infinitely intelligent. To recognise His handiwork, you should be able to know how to recognise the evidence of the works of His intelligence. That is the evidence. |
Re: The Shameful Display Of Hypocrisy By NL Theists by bennyann: 7:33pm On Mar 11, 2017 |
Blogthug When you click on the quotation icon you will get two boxes- [quote][/quote] The difference between those two boxes is that one has the slash (/) symbol. The one without the slash symbol should come first before anything you want to quote, then you end it with the one with the slash symbol. Whatever you want to quote should be between or in the middle of those two boxes So you can do that between anyone's post you wish to quote. I hope you get it now? |
Re: The Shameful Display Of Hypocrisy By NL Theists by Blogthug(m): 9:03pm On Mar 11, 2017 |
hopefulLandlord: yeah |
Re: The Shameful Display Of Hypocrisy By NL Theists by Blogthug(m): 9:10pm On Mar 11, 2017 |
hopefulLandlord:OK great yes o
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Re: The Shameful Display Of Hypocrisy By NL Theists by Blogthug(m): 9:15pm On Mar 11, 2017 |
bennyann: thanks bro |
Re: The Shameful Display Of Hypocrisy By NL Theists by bennyann: 9:21pm On Mar 11, 2017 |
Blogthug: It's my pleasure |
Re: The Shameful Display Of Hypocrisy By NL Theists by Blogthug(m): 9:29pm On Mar 11, 2017 |
rhektor: lol it always amazes me when most new atheists starts thinking they own science the way some Christians think they own God, even Baron and Descartes the founders of science were theists, also looking at history, over 70% of Nobel Prize Winners for science are theists https://infogalactic.com/info/List_of_Christian_Nobel_laureates# |
Re: The Shameful Display Of Hypocrisy By NL Theists by otemanuduno: 10:49pm On Mar 11, 2017 |
enshy: And who told you that animals wouldn't exist again after death? Animals have souls if you don't know. |
Re: The Shameful Display Of Hypocrisy By NL Theists by ScepticalPyrrho: 10:52pm On Mar 11, 2017 |
OLAADEGBU:Another hypocritical statement. As an adult you present the verse of the Bible as evidence? You need to take further training on research methodology. |
Re: The Shameful Display Of Hypocrisy By NL Theists by enshy: 10:54pm On Mar 11, 2017 |
otemanuduno:Read the posts well..I didnt say that someone else did. Do you believe in the composite nature of man? |
Re: The Shameful Display Of Hypocrisy By NL Theists by otemanuduno: 10:56pm On Mar 11, 2017 |
enshy:Yes, and I also believe in the composite nature of every other animal. |
Re: The Shameful Display Of Hypocrisy By NL Theists by ScepticalPyrrho: 10:56pm On Mar 11, 2017 |
Blogthug:Deism is just another speculation. It doesn't hold water. |
Re: The Shameful Display Of Hypocrisy By NL Theists by otemanuduno: 10:58pm On Mar 11, 2017 |
Blogthug:Theism or Atheism doesn't determine success. It all depends on following the GOLDEN RULE "USE YOUR BRAIN CRITICALLY." |
Re: The Shameful Display Of Hypocrisy By NL Theists by ScepticalPyrrho: 10:58pm On Mar 11, 2017 |
Blogthug:Don't worry about that, I do go to church sometimes... Give it your best shot. A deist is just an atheist who is a creationist. |
Re: The Shameful Display Of Hypocrisy By NL Theists by enshy: 11:00pm On Mar 11, 2017 |
otemanuduno:So is there any difference between that of man and animal? What is that of man & animal? |
Re: The Shameful Display Of Hypocrisy By NL Theists by hopefulLandlord: 11:04pm On Mar 11, 2017 |
ScepticalPyrrho: Sense!!! but I love how theists especially Christians argue more for deism these days; shows they're seeing how unconvincing and nonsensical their theistic claims are so they quickly run to deism I've got no issues with a deistic god devoid of claims and doctrines But the Abrahamic god? The Abrahamic religions? Those are rather trivially demonstrated false, beyond reasonable doubt, based on massive internal inconsistencies, clear moral damage, and overwhelming objective evidence contradicting the assertions they make and the assertions made on their behalf. |
Re: The Shameful Display Of Hypocrisy By NL Theists by ScepticalPyrrho: 11:18pm On Mar 11, 2017 |
hopefulLandlord:Succinctly put. Yahweh/Allah believers are the worst of all theist. They would crucify any person to prove that their God is powerful. |
Re: The Shameful Display Of Hypocrisy By NL Theists by otemanuduno: 5:04am On Mar 12, 2017 |
enshy:Man is an animal; fortunately we are higher animals. |
Re: The Shameful Display Of Hypocrisy By NL Theists by Pastafarian: 9:17am On Mar 12, 2017 |
ScepticalPyrrho:true |
Re: The Shameful Display Of Hypocrisy By NL Theists by Blogthug(m): 10:59am On Mar 12, 2017 |
ScepticalPyrrho:because u say so? that's your opinion, present your argument |
Re: The Shameful Display Of Hypocrisy By NL Theists by Blogthug(m): 11:00am On Mar 12, 2017 |
otemanuduno: stramwan, who said it determines success please? |
Re: The Shameful Display Of Hypocrisy By NL Theists by rawgurl(f): 11:15am On Mar 12, 2017 |
enshy: here u go again enshy, using curses to defend ur nonexistent God. |
Re: The Shameful Display Of Hypocrisy By NL Theists by Blogthug(m): 11:23am On Mar 12, 2017 |
ScepticalPyrrho:oh OK, me too, but mostly when invited you would have to add me first, since u aren't paying me
category error fallacy! if A is not B then A is not B, saying a deist is just an atheist means u don't even know what u are talking about. Do u think Atheists believe in God? cuz All deist believe in an impersonal creative force God while most also believe in intelligent design and reject revealed religion and their supernatural claims, miracles, visions and prophecies. All creationist are Christians that believe in Evolution. mind u there are also Christian deists who reject the supernatural claims about Jesus they just follow his teachings like how I follow Confucius's teachings. all atheist don't believe in God and intelligent design or think the universe isn't intended that everything boils down to mindless random atoms coming together, lol. it's quite ridiculous, think of it, at what point would random atoms produce consciousness or even intelligence? have u researched about the probability of life arising randomly? what are the odds? does your life have a purpose if everything boils down to atoms? do u think morality is subjective? if yes, did Hitler do any wrong thing? if he felt what he did was right. think about all this, atheism is ridiculous, materialism isn't all there is, u have a mind don't u? |
Re: The Shameful Display Of Hypocrisy By NL Theists by enshy: 1:02pm On Mar 12, 2017 |
rawgurl:No curses dear! Atheism is only described. Repent lest you perish without trace! |
Re: The Shameful Display Of Hypocrisy By NL Theists by Blogthug(m): 1:07pm On Mar 12, 2017 |
enshy:u are appealing to fear and it's a fallacy |
Re: The Shameful Display Of Hypocrisy By NL Theists by enshy: 1:12pm On Mar 12, 2017 |
otemanuduno:You killed it! If man is an higher animal, then man isnt equal with animal, is this correct? How is man therefore different from animal in their composite nature? |
Re: The Shameful Display Of Hypocrisy By NL Theists by otemanuduno: 1:14pm On Mar 12, 2017 |
enshy: What exactly are you driving at? |
Re: The Shameful Display Of Hypocrisy By NL Theists by otemanuduno: 1:16pm On Mar 12, 2017 |
enshy:How do you know he will perish without trace? Has anyone perished because he did not repent? |
Re: The Shameful Display Of Hypocrisy By NL Theists by rawgurl(f): 1:19pm On Mar 12, 2017 |
Re: The Shameful Display Of Hypocrisy By NL Theists by enshy: 1:21pm On Mar 12, 2017 |
Blogthug:I guess you see evil and rush into it! What fallacy there is in your response! The Bible says 'the prudent man foreseeth the evil and hideth himself but the simple pass on and are punished' - Prov 27:12 |
Re: The Shameful Display Of Hypocrisy By NL Theists by enshy: 1:27pm On Mar 12, 2017 |
otemanuduno:You shouldnt know cos you are ignorant of existence of God, beginning of life, end of life, to these you have always confessed you dont know. My friend, I know 'it is appointed to every man once to die, after this judgment' If you want to escape, please run to Jesus, escape the damnation to come, seek Jesus while you may, confess and forsake your sins, you will surely find help with Him..Amen! |
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