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MiddleDimension:
if someone can destroy your faith, then it questions what exactly you believed!

Uncle, do you ever wonder why Christians and Muslims hardly intermarry? How will it look if on Friday your wife goes to the mosque and the husband is in church on Sunday.

They both share different beliefs which represents a poisonous recipe for the downfall of the home. They will most likely misunderstand each other on so many topics and occurrences at home.

Anyways my take is that you just want to Bleep her and go away. The girl is right not to want to have anything to do with you on the basis of religion. This your statement on questioning what I believe is just lame.

If I was her I will warn you nvr to come near me or i will run far away from your treachery. Leave her alone!!!!

zerozz:
wise and clever people learnt early on that they can display conventional behaviour or mouth conventional idea without having the need to believe in them.
From experience you can now see that being an Atheist is not beneficial. think as you like but behave like others

just because some stupid closed minded christian do not accept us does not mean atheism is not beneficial! Infact, thats why we can be confident that atheism is beneficial. It helps us to sieve our associates and be more inclined to live with the best people on earth.

Among others, here are the benefits of being an atheist:

we are open enough to know that that which we've always thought to be true, is actually a lie and the belief in god is the first casuality.

We are open to make friends of a wider pool of people and the only criteria we use to select friends is good will. Not some useless criteria as which religion you profess or don't profess.

We live up to the fact that we only have a short time to live and therefore, lead a thoroughly worth while life and put so much effort into making the world a better place than we met it.

So tell me, how has your belief in god better you or the human race at large?

xynerise:
Xynerise

LoL!
Ok,
Another Point,
Nnamdi Kanu Is An Igbo Name But D Man Is A Judaist

ANTONINEUTRON:
LoL!

Ok,

Another Point,

Nnamdi Kanu Is An Igbo Name But D Man Is A Judaist

Nnamdi KANU is his native name. We have a culture remember?

Most Christians have a native name and a Hebrew/christian name

2dugged:
see comments,anyway the only thing I know I am skeptical about atheism is that I keep asking where atheist base their mortality on,Christians have their conscience tamed by instructions from the Bible, even if some don't adhere to most of those instructions but a large percentage do.while I respect the view of atheists,I must point out that we as Nigerians are not ready for it,imagine,if someone didn't have to say "if not because of God ,wetin I for do you eh", there will be chaos

Let me break it down for you Love. Now morality on it's own is not based on nothing, just as Love and empathy. You don't need religion to tell you to not go and burn a mosque down at night or stab a neighbor in the belly. An 8 years old child doesn't need the god doctrine to not know that it is somewhat odd to go and give his mom or dad a slap on the face. You are getting it mixed up. I'm Atheist and many other Atheist I've met are mostly peaceful humans born with the innate ability to know right from wrong though there are assholes as well whom are atheist lol. What about the Christain Crusades all the killings and marauding at that point in time what did they base their morality on? God right? Now we have the menace of Islam; suicide bombers etc Where is their morality based on? 72 virgins or Allah? Another God. Have you ever heard of an Atheist blowing his or herself up to promote their ideology? No I haven't and neither have you.
Now you make it sound like simply believing in a God makes you moral and less likely to do evil Now I ask you why are we one of the most corrupt nation in the world? What happened to all those beliefs in God and all that over flowing morality?

chemystery:
It's not easy bro. At times i look at myself and wondered how i came out of this shit. At the end, I thank god i'm an atheist

Herein lies the contradictory nature of some of you atheist ,this man clearly does not belief in the concept of a "God" but thanks same "God" he is an atheist ,in essence he is thanking a being he does not believe in for not believing in same being .

you don't believe in God so what God are you then thanking for been an atheist .shouldn't you be giving your thanks or appreciation to whatever else atheist thank for whatever good in their lives ?.

You simply cannot not believe in a God and make statements like "I thank God I am an atheist" ,it simply betrays a state of confusion .

Makes me think most of you atheist do not even understand the concept of been an atheist .Maybe it's fashionable to not believe in God or maybe there is an inner insecurity been an atheist helps some of you escape from but that's your fish to fry .

I am not here to foist any belief on anyone ,I could not ignore your posts after several post from you debunking the existence of a God .

Finally I have very liberal views when it comes to the subject of religion .I happen to be born into a very strong catholic family and naturally I became a Catholic but my decision to believe in a supreme being came out of very hard questions life has asked of me .

There comes a time when a thinking man asks hard questions like why do I even believe in God ,personal experiences help shape beliefs and my personal life experiences has led me to come to peace with the fact that there just had to be a God To make the things that have happened to me happen and there lies the reason for my belief .

Hopefully you also have an informed reason why you choose to not believe in a God ,your statement I quoted says contrary.

If you do not believe in a God you should not thank same or allude to same or even recognize same in any way or form wether seriously or even jokingly.

Let everyone seek greater understanding, life is filled with mysteries .

walls01:
Dump the idea of a God in the trash good, you must have a good reason, pls what do you think give rise to the universe? Pls your own thought not a religious argument

I really have no idea. I am grateful to be a part of the universe and appreciate every single breath I take daily. I live every moment fully because I know how lucky I am to be here

MiddleDimension:
just because some stupid closed minded christian do not accept us does not mean atheism is not beneficial! Infact, thats why we can be confident that atheism is beneficial. It helps us to sieve our associates and be more inclined to live with the best people on earth.

Among others, here are the benefits of being an atheist:

we are open enough to know that that which we've always thought to be true, is actually a lie and the belief in god is the first casuality.

We are open to make friends of a wider pool of people and the only criteria we use to select friends is good will. Not some useless criteria as which religion you profess or don't profess.

We live up to the fact that we only have a short time to live and therefore, lead a thoroughly worth while life and put so much effort into making the world a better place than we met it.

So tell me, how has your belief in god better you or the human race at large?

Is this all you are benefitting. This will pale into insignificant when the reality of it comes. What do you know a mere mortal man ? What will you loose if you believe there is a God in heaven even if it turns out when you die that there isn't any when you die. Is that not better than believing there is no God here on earth and you get to heaven to discover there is actually a God to reward you according to your own work. It will be too late to do anything about it. Repent today my friend. You have nothing to loose but all to gain.

MiddleDimension:
atheists do not stand for anything? It turns out that we are the ones who stand for the very best values of humanity you can ever think of!

Ofcourse the christian stands for a thing and those things are: homophobia, islamophobia, mysogyny, etc. These are worthwihile values according to the religion that is modelled by the number one bastard, Jesus christ of nazareth!

And yes, i called christianity a religion, and that's what it is! It is no use trying to divorce christianity from religion just because religion has gained an evil reputation.

If you say religion is man SEEKING god like you now pretend to believe, then i think christianity is the number one religion! Verses like "he is the rewarder of those who diligently SEEK him", "Seek ye first the kingdom of god...", "he who COMES to me, i shall not cast aside", "WRESTLE your salvation with fear and trembling", "BE holy as your heavenly father is holy", all verses like these are central to the christian faith. So anyone who defines religion as man seeking god and devorces christianity from religion is only being a hypocrite living a lie! Christianity is the first example and the best representation of religion.

Stope the lies fools!

You choose yours, I Choose Jesus Christ...
Atheism believes in nothing but self... You think your life is yours... Well that's what u choose to believe in... But when u decide to stop looking at things with just the face value and look deeper... Life exists beyond this life... And u choose if u are for Christ or against Him... But I will say this... I believe in Jesus Christ... You believe in yourself... I will only tell you to understand that U can either be hot or cold u can never be warm.... If you are not for Jesus Christ, then u are for the devil... Whether u know it or not whether u believe it or not... Your opinion doesn't change the Jesus Christ reigns supreme.... Your lack of belief doesn't change the supremacy of Christ... So I urge u to reconsider and retrace ur steps back to Christ... You don't have to understand it... U cannot understand God because He is not a man and he doesn't owe you anything but u owe Him everything including your life... Accept it or not... It is what it is... Believe it or not.... It is how it is.... So u can say all sorts and call Christians all sorts of names.... When the time comes you will see ... You will realise and then will you believe... But my prayer for u all is that it will not be too late...
God bless you brother.

Toks2008:
So both of you are now raising a GODLESS family...OK. .continue.

Yes. And life is great without god

Besides, what is the benefit of raising a godfull family when you end up facing the same challenges everyone else faces

Do you know how many pastor's sons and daughters I know that are cultists and prostitutes or how many people still die at the hospital despite praying daily for "healing"?

In our life, the belief in any god(including yours) is useless and unnecessary. It has no significance and serves no need

TWOYANSH:
let her go bro.. .. She's simply shallow

Shallow? For having her own standards?

Once had an atheist as roommate in skool days, well; truth is he had some valid points on some things but atheism wld do me more harm than good... he corrupted my system of life but den my spirit held on to the fact that I felt the presence of something out of the ordinary in my heart, which was more than the eye could see, and I believe that is God so I choose to believe in God


Go through the Bible ; it teaches truth, charity, love, mercy , forgiveness, obedience, joy, moral life, happiness, patience, hope, perseverance...

Maybe some information therein are inconsistent but it points mostly to living a life free of evil or wat we cld term as bad so why wld I not accept Christianity or any other religion that preach something similar to wat the Bible tells me

But I choose Christianity, I do not disregard anybody for being an atheist, we cld do business but I wld not go into a relationship(love affair) with an atheist either... it's their choice to atheists so also my choice not to date one

uzoronwusa:
Meaning that what she experienced with God wasn't real?

because god is not real

My bro her antennae for perceiving God got broken by you.

It got broken by rational thinking, empathy and thinking. These concepts are foreign to theists. I understand

the signal of God's existence is still broadcasting real time and available to those with faith.

With faith. As usual. But never with evidence. God is busy playing hide and seek while millions die every day

Just know that since you can apply faith for your god to exist, every other religion can do the same. And I know you believe only your religion is right

the fact that God is dead to you doesn't mean that he stops existing.

God needs to exist first to be able to die

he still lives despite your unbelief.

Of course. Many people believe in your god just as other people believe in other gods

you must first believe he exists before you can see him.otherwise, its impossible.he lives,that I know.

Since I do not need to believe the sun exists, I know, then it is obvious your god is nothing but an idea. One that I see no need for

xynerise:
Nnamdi KANU is his native name. We have a culture remember?
Most Christians have a native name and a Hebrew/christian name

His Only Non-native Name Is Kenny Which Is Non-jewish

And He Is A Judaist Not A Christain

Japhet04

Next time before you open your heart to anygirl, make sure she knows you are atheist before hand to avoid stories like this.

African or should I say black women are the most brainwashed in world when it comes to arab/jewish mumbo jumbo.

unclecycs:
Herein lies the contradictory nature of some of you atheist ,this man clearly does not belief in the concept of a "God" but thanks same "God" he is an atheist ,in essence he is thanking a being he does not believe in for not believing in same being .

you don't believe in God so what God are you then thanking for been an atheist .shouldn't you be giving your thanks or appreciation to whatever else atheist thank for whatever good in their lives ?.

You simply cannot not believe in a God and make statements like "I thank God I am an atheist" ,it simply betrays a state of confusion .

Makes me think most of you atheist do not even understand the concept of been an atheist .Maybe it's fashionable to not believe in God or maybe there is an inner insecurity been an atheist helps some of you escape from but that's your fish to fry .

I am not here to foist any belief on anyone ,I could not ignore your posts after several post from you debunking the existence of a God .

Finally I have very liberal views when it comes to the subject of religion .I happen to be born into a very strong catholic family and naturally I became a Catholic but my decision to believe in a supreme being came out of very hard questions life has asked of me .

There comes a time when a thinking man asks hard questions like why do I even believe in God ,personal experiences help shape beliefs and my personal life experiences has led me to come to peace with the fact that there just had to be a God To make the things that have happened to me happen and there lies the reason for my belief .

Hopefully you also have an informed reason why you choose to not believe in a God ,your statement I quoted says contrary.

If you do not believe in a God you should not thank same or allude to same or even recognize same in any way or form wether seriously or even jokingly.

Let everyone seek greater understanding, life is filled with mysteries .

I knew folks like you wont understand that. I even had to bold the words to make emphasis but it didn't help . I wont blame you though, maybe you dont understand the God of sarcasm

SavageGarden:
Let me break it down for you Love. Now morality on it's own is not based on nothing, just as Love and empathy. You don't need religion to tell you to not go and burn a mosque down at night or stab a neighbor in the belly. An 8 years old child doesn't need the god doctrine to not know that it is somewhat odd to go and give his mom or dad a slap on the face. You are getting it mixed up. I'm Atheist and many other Atheist I've met are mostly peaceful humans born with the innate ability to know right from wrong though there are assholes as well whom are atheist lol. What about the Christain Crusades all the killings and marauding at that point in time what did they base their morality on? God right? Now we have the menace of Islam; suicide bombers etc Where is their morality based on? 72 virgins or Allah? Another God. Have you ever heard of an Atheist blowing his or herself up to promote their ideology? No I haven't and neither have you.
Now you make it sound like simply believing in a God makes you moral and less likely to do evil Now I ask you why are we one of the most corrupt nation in the world? What happened to all those beliefs in God and all that over flowing morality?

the fact is atheists draw their mortality on their state of mind they donot have a standard or reference, now what happens to a psychologically troubled atheist?, what you as an atheist tag as right, another atheist may not agree.one thing with logical thinking is you can be right in your own eyes.A sixteen years old American once killed two people, and when questioned why she did it,she said cos she hated Mondays, now to her that is a logical reason enough, that is my point, when you have nothing taming the conscience, there is bound to be chaos.Nigeria needs strong institutions and laws not atheism,a lot of people use China as example forgetting that it is not a atheist country, believe in good and evil and any form to conformity to a particular belief system is religion itself

neocortex:
Who are you accountable to and how you accountable to it?
How have that made you behave differently that you would have ?

It is unfortunate that a person who believe in a book that regards others as infidel and
are only good for killing is talking about evil. You took as a hero a warlord who fancy kid sexually,
snatched the wife of his own son and kept an harem of slaves.

I can even see from your posts that you specialise in defending rapist, wow how
moral you are ?

You should hide your head in shame when others are discussing morality and evil.

Well noted. Thank you

Japhet04:
I met this girl recently everything has been going well until she found out I am an atheist, she started avoiding me and said she doesn't want anything to do with me because of that fact.

I really like her , is there anything I can do to ignite a change of mind on her part

I'm refusing to date someone too because of this...and as a lady I'll say there's nothing you can do to change her mind...just respect her choice and walk away.

2dugged:
the fact is atheists draw their mortality on their state of mind they donot have a standard or reference, now what happens to a psychologically troubled atheist?, what you as an atheist tag as right, another atheist may not agree.one thing with logical thinking is you can be right in your own eyes.A sixteen years old American once killed two people, and when questioned why she did it,she said cos she hated Mondays, now to her that is a logical reason enough, that is my point, when you have nothing taming the conscience, there is bound to be chaos.Nigeria needs strong institutions and laws not atheism,a lot of people use China as example forgetting that it is not a atheist country, believe in good and evil and any form to conformity to a particular belief system is religion itself

Flawed. Believing in Good OR bad is not religion but morality

dammysel:
I'm refusing to date someone too because of this...and as a lady I'll say there's nothing you can do to change her mind...just respect her choice and walk away.

Hehe you haven't met my friends you'll do fall in love with them even though they're not atheist

justiniyke29:
Hmm,pretend and bcom a church person 4 her. i remember when i went 2 mosque 4 six months bcus of girl. Modified:Xo dis thread made fp nd i didnt know,its well.I DEDICATE dis piece of land 2 does dat have slow network nd let little tin lyk religion stop them 4rm been with who dey want 2 be wit.

Interesting! so what happened at the end with you and her??

thesuave10:
Flawed. Believing in Good OR bad is not religion but morality

conformity to a particular belief system is religion (religion is defined as a way of life),now atheism itself is a religion, just like every other religion

The great majority of Nigerian Christians worship an Idol they call God. Believe is the mother of idolatry.

"Those who say they believe in God and yet neither love nor fear Him, do not in fact believe in Him but in those who have taught them that God exists. Those who believe that they believe in God, but without any passion in their heart, any anguish of mind, without uncertainty, without doubt, without an element of despair even in their consolation, believe only in the God-idea, not in God."
Miguel de Unamuno

2dugged:
conformity to a particular belief system is religion (religion is defined as a way of life),now atheism itself is a religion, just like every other religion

Don't display your ignorance. Religion is not confirming to any belief system Abeg don't say that again. There are other ways of life. Religion is just one of them. Culture is actually a way of life.

But the concept of good or bad is a concept in many other ways of life. In fact good or bad is not even a Christian concept. It's a concept shared by religion as well as other ways of life #word

Japhet04:
sorry bro, can't do that

PS
I really want to thank u guys for your sincere reasonable advice, i'm grateful, really.,also thank u lalasticlala

But I still noticed that the Christians are filled with so much hate that I begin to wonder if they are really Christians as they claim to be, wow so many insults from them, but it's cool sha

i won't judge u for been an atheist but one thing i knw is someone created you and we would all gv acc on the last days.

Lol, don't flatter yourself. What is the probability that a "Nigerian" scientist is actually a scientist with proven scientific facts and experiments to his name which the world can attest to. Let me guess 0.

Quit the hype.

thesuave10:
Those things are mere fact and theories and who told you I'm not a scientist or haven't taken part I experiment. Hehe you'd wish you knew the man behind this moniker. Anyways later.

thesuave10:
Don't display your ignorance. Religion is not confirming to any belief system Abeg don't say that again. There are other ways of life. Religion is just one of them. Culture is actually a way of life.

But the concept of good or bad is a concept in many other ways of life. In fact good or bad is not even a Christian concept. It's a concept shared by religion as well as other ways of life #word

so cure my ignorance and tell me ,if athiesm is culture or what you can classify atheism as,instead of ranting

Kingsley1000:
THE PROBLEM OF THIS COUNTRY IS RELIGION,WE ARE SO OBSECESSED WITH IT

It's one of the signs of underdevelopment. It's a phase. Europe and America was once the bastion of Christianity. They fought so many religious wars, killed each other in the name of religion and caused themselves untold hardship and pain. But they've cast off that garment. We are evolving slowly to that point too.

if you all notice, these so called atheists take pride in their foolishness. They make themselves known as Atheists because they want to attract some kind of acceptance and recognition in their social groups.
The truth is that they chose atheism to follow the footsteps of a popular fool who was deranged enough to question divinity and denounce the ultimate supremacy i. e GOD.
we all accept the fact that we were created, yes, as humans in the image of God. But we aren't gods.. we just have a drop of a quart of his spirits and that is what makes us superior to beasts. These fools( yh, that's what they are) don't want to be held accountable for their sins so they seem free when they spout the idea of God being non existent.
BUT the wages of sin is death anyhow, so FOOLISH ATHEISTS, if your sins are not forgiven by a divine power while your on earth. you will receive your reward.
Your body,soul and spirit in a thousand reincarnations will die!

solasoulmusic:
I am sorry I haven't read all the responses don't take them to heart though two wrongs can never make it right. In my response I was just trying to be very honest maybe it's the individuals so I said some

I am not saying with religion one is a better person but with religion there are boundaries emotionally, physically and sexually that guide you to live a decent life with a lasting legacy and it shows in behavior, character and diction.

I am not condemning you just making you understand having an open mind to question religion Is good i think it's brave but it's the name calling let's all respect our differences

You are one of the most sensible person here. Keep it up

Amberon:
Lol, don't flatter yourself. What is the probability that a "Nigerian" scientist is actually a scientist with proven scientific facts and experiments to his name which the world can attest to. Let me guess 0.

Quit the hype.

This is why Nigerians are said not to have sense. This comment give it to someone else and tell me if that person won't call you crazy. How does a nationality justify a scientific experiment. In fact dude just go to school. The research you talk about are not even theories or laws yet. Cuz scientists are still divided in such issues so don't call them facts. Every scientist does research to prove his or her point. Every human being is an amateur scientist. All it takes is to look in the right place and study hard. Damn nairaland forum has the dummest members I've seen. Reddit and others are by far better and smarter

Why would a sane Christian girl want to date an unbeliever?