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Re: Origin Of The Word " Oyibo".. by Olu317(m): 2:38pm On May 15, 2017 |
pazienza:I mock you. I am not interested. Go and read about your history properly. Everything about Ibo is always about borrowing from others and turning into theirs. WHAT IS THE MEANING OF “IGBO" IN IBO LAND? YOU WERE REFERRED TO AS IGBOS IN THE 1930S. THIS IS A NAME WITH CONNECTION WITH YORUBA FOR CENTURIES . In Igbo land the word “IGBO" IS A PREFIX. It has no modern meaning of its own. Continue in your ignorance. 1 Like |
Re: Origin Of The Word " Oyibo".. by Olu317(m): 2:52pm On May 15, 2017 |
Dhugal:Hahaha....Look at you having a partial understanding of Yoruba. OK ooo, I give it to you on having a little knowledge of the partial meaning because it was made popular. However, èji Owuro(morning dew/drops of water from the sky to wet the flowers etc periodically) is clearly differentiated from proper ÈJI, which accurately mean rain. You can't outclass me in my language ooo |
Re: Origin Of The Word " Oyibo".. by Olu317(m): 3:02pm On May 15, 2017 |
Probz:Shared you mentioned? OK. But I know OKA has been ages with Yorubas with the production of maize( Agbado) conversion to different varieties in Yoruba land . And Yoruba borrowed some words later and it is not with any connection to IBOS' Oka. Same root? I haven't come across it before anywhere. Please, don't refer me to books sellers(pseudo authors) with no good record. |
Re: Origin Of The Word " Oyibo".. by Probz(m): 3:11pm On May 15, 2017 |
pazienza: https://books.google.co.uk/books?id=OiynbBvMblcC&pg=PA155&dq=Igbo+Yoruba+mai+mai+moin+moin&hl=en&sa=X&redir_esc=y#v=onepage&q=Igbo%20Yoruba%20mai%20mai%20moin%20moin&f=false That book acknowledges that agbado's the more general Yoruba term for corn but it says oka and eka are used too. Scroll down a couple pages. I'm not disagreeing with anything else though. I'm with you on the oyibo thing. Just not oka. I don't know how oka's pronounced in Yoruba. |
Re: Origin Of The Word " Oyibo".. by kpaminose: 3:16pm On May 15, 2017 |
pazienza:Who called Aboh Eboe? I hope you are not referring to Equano. Is Equano really from Aboh. Definitely he's not. So don't bring up that argument here. But of course, the correct name of Aboh is Eboh and it has nothing to do with Eboe white man's mispronunciation of Ibo. And if you read my comment, I said Eboh is used to mean Europeans and anything European in Edo and all parts of Anioma but it's "MOST POPULAR IN IKA". I guess you read but can't comprehend. From this comment you can see three meaning of Eboh and non means whiteman in Igbo but Edo and Anioma. 1 Like |
Re: Origin Of The Word " Oyibo".. by Dhugal: 3:50pm On May 15, 2017 |
Olu317:Dude,you know next to nothing of Yoruba language and its history. Don't push me use you to mop the floor here. Eji is mist,not rain.Same way mist is referred to as igirigi in Igbo BTW,maize in Yoruba is agbado not oka. Oka is purely Igbo word for maize,though ground flours used to make swallows are also sometimes referred to as oka in Yoruba. 6 Likes 1 Share |
Re: Origin Of The Word " Oyibo".. by Olu317(m): 4:04pm On May 15, 2017 |
Probz:Question to you are these; between Yoruba and Ibos, who were the first to come in contact with whites? Don't mention OLUADAH EQUIANO because he shared the same picture with Thomas Peters. A well known Yoruba warrior man during 17th century. When was the time in history did they come across white men to know them as OYIBO, a word got from Yoruba OYINBO? . Samuel Ajayi crowther helped Ibos standardize their modern Ibo language. And they've always given credit to him. Who among Ibos helped Yoruba in language development? |
Re: Origin Of The Word " Oyibo".. by Olu317(m): 4:16pm On May 15, 2017 |
Dhugal:You are JOKING! . Oh, you want to teach me Yoruba Language ? Begin to teach me. Abèjidè —Came with dew or came during dew , you claim? That's not my language . And it isn't the meaning. Perhaps, I am too forward. Kindly explain the Yoruba Name “ABèjidè". You better don't go beyond your reach. |
Re: Origin Of The Word " Oyibo".. by bigfrancis21: 5:48pm On May 15, 2017 |
AbakalikiPress: I don't know why I'm getting the feeling that the person hiding under this moniker writes so familiarly with someone else on this forum. 4 Likes |
Re: Origin Of The Word " Oyibo".. by bigfrancis21: 5:56pm On May 15, 2017 |
Olu317: You just said maize flour or yam flour, not the actual corn itself, is called Oka in archaic yoruba communities, so what then is your argument about? Growing up, everywhere in Igbo land calls corn (the one that you grow and eat, which can be roasted or boiled) Oka (with rising and falling tones). We do not refer to the flour as Oka but the actual food item itself as Oka. According to you, Maize flour = Oka (Yoruba) According to general Yoruba, Corn = Agbado According to Pazienza, Corn (food) = Oka (Igbo). The difference and usage are clear enough already. 3 Likes |
Re: Origin Of The Word " Oyibo".. by bigfrancis21: 5:58pm On May 15, 2017 |
Olu317: I didn't quite get that part in bold? |
Re: Origin Of The Word " Oyibo".. by bigfrancis21: 6:11pm On May 15, 2017 |
absoluteSuccess: It is possible that Ajayi Crowther may have taken the word back to his native land after spending some time in Igbo land. The author of that book observed the usage of 'oyibo ojii' in Onitsha in 1832, whereas the dictionary or vocabulary of Ajayi Crowther was not written or published until 1843, or 11 years later. In terms of academic linguistic evidence, there are two earlier pieces of evidence (that of Olauda in as early as the 1700s and the 'Oyibo Ojii' account in 1832) showing the usage of Oyibo in Igbo land that precede the earliest Yoruba academic mention in 1843. I am not implying anything but this should tell you something, if you reason objectively. https://catalog.hathitrust.org/Record/011556689 2 Likes
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Re: Origin Of The Word " Oyibo".. by bigfrancis21: 6:28pm On May 15, 2017 |
For those asking about the Igbo exposure to Europeans, Europeans started trading in Igbo slaves (around the late 1400s) much earlier than with the Yorubas (from the 1600s or 1700s) who were exported in significant numbers towards the ending of the slave trade, which explains why more Igbo slaves overall (circa 1.27 million, spanning across almost 4 centuries) were exported more than Yoruba slaves (circa 500,000). The Igbo possibly had contact with the Europeans (through Bonny and Calabar ports) much earlier than the Yorubas, thus the mimicking of the mispronunciation of 'onye ibo' by the white man by the Igbos to 'oyibo' is highly probable. [img]https://tracingafricanroots.files./2015/06/chambers-2002-table1-estimated-percentage-of-igbo-captives1.jpg[/img] Whereas slavery in Yorubaland did not start until around 1640 (nearly 200 years after Europeans were exposed to Igbos). 2 Likes
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Re: Origin Of The Word " Oyibo".. by pazienza(m): 6:30pm On May 15, 2017 |
kpaminose: Oyibo is white man in Aboh, not eboh. Stop dragging Anioma into your Edo trash. https://m.facebook.com/Ukwuani.Ndokwa/posts/969515196456632 See the above once again. It's ego oyibo and not ego eboh. You are shameless. 5 Likes |
Re: Origin Of The Word " Oyibo".. by kpaminose: 6:54pm On May 15, 2017 |
pazienza:I didn't follow your link but you are obviously deluded. Money is Egho in Ika and Whiteman is Eboh but people answer EgoOyibo though it doesn't have any meaning in Ika. When I said "more popular in Ika" you still do not know what that means? You lack comprehensive ability. 2 Likes |
Re: Origin Of The Word " Oyibo".. by bigfrancis21: 7:09pm On May 15, 2017 |
pazienza: Bro just ignore the edoid ika man. It is not worth the effort and time. 4 Likes |
Re: Origin Of The Word " Oyibo".. by Olu317(m): 7:10pm On May 15, 2017 |
bigfrancis21:Oh I see . Google Thomas Peters and infer what see on there on this forum. |
Re: Origin Of The Word " Oyibo".. by Olu317(m): 7:12pm On May 15, 2017 |
bigfrancis21:Oh I see . Google Thomas Peters and infer what your opinion is on this forum. |
Re: Origin Of The Word " Oyibo".. by pazienza(m): 7:19pm On May 15, 2017 |
kpaminose: Why are you bleating ? No one is interested in your sorry Ika stories or whatever you think of yourselves. My interest was and is on Aboh. Now scram. 5 Likes |
Re: Origin Of The Word " Oyibo".. by pazienza(m): 7:21pm On May 15, 2017 |
bigfrancis21: Nnaa eh, ike gwuru. 3 Likes |
Re: Origin Of The Word " Oyibo".. by Probz(m): 7:22pm On May 15, 2017 |
Who even cares what ndi Ika use for white man? That one na their own wahala. They can call them crackers if they want. 5 Likes |
Re: Origin Of The Word " Oyibo".. by kpaminose: 7:33pm On May 15, 2017 |
pazienza:Where did I tell you anything about what I think of myself? You're obviously deluded. I repeat. You don't have any business with Aboh. The last time I checked Aboh is Anioma and I mentioned that White men is called Eboh in Anioma (Aboh inclusive) but "MORE POPULAR IN IKA), meaning other parts of Anioma have alternate words for it. You're both dull and deluded 1 Like |
Re: Origin Of The Word " Oyibo".. by pazienza(m): 8:14pm On May 15, 2017 |
kpaminose: You are roaming already. Your Ika is inconsequential in this discussion, stop forcefully attaching yourself to it , no one cares about what you call white man in Ika, no one cares. This is Abohs speaking for themselves : https://m.facebook.com/Ukwuani.Ndokwa/posts/969515196456632 You are in no position to speak for Ali Chukwuma people. Get lost! 4 Likes |
Re: Origin Of The Word " Oyibo".. by OMANBALA1: 8:15pm On May 15, 2017 |
kpaminose: You have a thick brain that's why you can't learn. Is Aboh Ika,or did they make you a spokesman for them ? Learned people are slapping you with historical documents and you are here arguing like an illiterate drunk. Abeg,face Edo. 5 Likes |
Re: Origin Of The Word " Oyibo".. by OMANBALA1: 8:18pm On May 15, 2017 |
pazienza: You know these Ika lost souls are beginning to feel SOME TYPE OF WAY due to the attention we were giving them and now they have realized nobody cares so they want to drag Ukwuani into their mess. 5 Likes |
Re: Origin Of The Word " Oyibo".. by AbakalikiPress: 8:41pm On May 15, 2017 |
bigfrancis21: lol, and who is that? 1 Like |
Re: Origin Of The Word " Oyibo".. by Probz(m): 8:44pm On May 15, 2017 |
You still haven't expanded on what you meant when you say Yorubas don't go near pidgin compared to Northern Igbos. |
Re: Origin Of The Word " Oyibo".. by bigfrancis21: 8:55pm On May 15, 2017 |
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Re: Origin Of The Word " Oyibo".. by Sunnylink(m): 9:00pm On May 15, 2017 |
Re: Origin Of The Word " Oyibo".. by AbakalikiPress: 9:09pm On May 15, 2017 |
bigfrancis21: Ozomigala? ?? |
Re: Origin Of The Word " Oyibo".. by absoluteSuccess: 11:32pm On May 15, 2017 |
bigfrancis21: I want to believe that Crowder was the Yorubaman who taught igbo how to write their language. Its so amazing that the most resourceful word in igbo lexicon he could take away was oyibo. So no greater word in that language than this? But the same word came to igboland through Crowder and his white missionaries. Your record revealed the Yorubaman who brought oyibo to igboland. A Yorubaman brought the name oyibo oji to the igbo. He helped formulate igbo alphsbet there and then. 1 Like |
Re: Origin Of The Word " Oyibo".. by absoluteSuccess: 11:34pm On May 15, 2017 |
Probz: More like awka. 1 Like |
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