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| Re: "How Can One Witness To A Jehovah's Witness?" by Hairyrapunzel: 6:59pm On Jul 05, 2017 |
achorladey:But na jw talk say Jesus is a god they should be able to tell the kind of God Jesus is. Is Jesus a True or a false god? |
| Re: "How Can One Witness To A Jehovah's Witness?" by Hairyrapunzel: 7:09pm On Jul 05, 2017 |
Barristter07:First you say humans will have divine nature Next you say humans will share with him in his Divine nature Interesting Why are you jws fond of quoting verses out of context? Why do you take phrases in bits from a verse a make your doctrines based on that phrase? Maybe the phrase " partaking in the divine nature" means that humans become divine or humans become God to you. But to me I will take that phrase in its complete verse and it means something entirely different to me When reading your bible read the whole chapter and you will understand what the verse is all about. |
| Re: "How Can One Witness To A Jehovah's Witness?" by LordKratos1(m): 8:09pm On Jul 05, 2017 |
As for me, the tales of God or gods and their relationship with mankind is none of my biz, cause who can u trust? a Christian, Muslim, satanist, etc . i just want to enjoy my life and maintain inner peace |
| Re: "How Can One Witness To A Jehovah's Witness?" by achorladey: 9:22pm On Jul 05, 2017 |
Hairyrapunzel:Atleast no be JWs ask the question..... Is Jesus a false god or true god. You know Jesus well well in fact he is your personal Lord and Saviour. 1 Like |
| Re: "How Can One Witness To A Jehovah's Witness?" by Hairyrapunzel: 9:31pm On Jul 05, 2017 |
achorladey:JWs say Jesus is a god yet to answer whether Jesus Christ is a true or a false god they can't. I just dey Laff When you people ask Catholics questions you don't see anything wrong now dem dey ask you question you dey complain. Smh Still no answer smh |
| Re: "How Can One Witness To A Jehovah's Witness?" by Hairyrapunzel: 9:33pm On Jul 05, 2017 |
achorladey:At least jws say Jesus is a god so we have to ask if the Jesus they say is a god is a true or a false god. Abi you want to deny now that you say Jesus is a god? |
| Re: "How Can One Witness To A Jehovah's Witness?" by achorladey: 10:13pm On Jul 05, 2017 |
Hairyrapunzel:Oga ask your personal Lord and Saviour, Jesus said there is only one true God John 17:3. The first question you would have asked is what view does Jesus had about himself when he was praying in John 17:3? Maybe from there you can now ascertain what he meant in John 17:3. But on record you and your cohort said there is only one true God and I said your personal Lord and Saviour(Jesus) said so as well John 17:3. And I believe what Jesus said in John 17:3 100,000%. If you like call am false god or true god na your kaya. Na you go carry your Lord. 1 Like |
| Re: "How Can One Witness To A Jehovah's Witness?" by achorladey: 10:16pm On Jul 05, 2017 |
Hairyrapunzel:You dey laugh for not believing what your personal Lord and Saviour said that there is only one true God. Perhaps you no believe am from the start. It's all lip service perhaps!!!! Johnw74 has an alternative master as well. 1 Like |
| Re: "How Can One Witness To A Jehovah's Witness?" by johnw74: 12:21am On Jul 06, 2017 |
Barristter07:poor lie lie barristter u r so frustrated at being caught out lying so often, that u call out lie where there is no lie, but that is just u lying yet once again, of course when you speak a lie you are just speaking naturally, taking after your god: Joh_8:44 Ye are of your father the devil, and the lusts of your father ye will do. He was a murderer from the beginning, and abode not in the truth, because there is no truth in him. When he speaketh a lie, he speaketh of his own: for he is a liar, and the father of it. |
| Re: "How Can One Witness To A Jehovah's Witness?" by johnw74: 12:33am On Jul 06, 2017 |
lie lie barristter u and ac hor ladey and apparently all false jw's cannot say: "Jesus Christ is my Lord and Saviour" means u deny the Lord Jesus: Mat_10:33 But whosoever shall deny me before men, him will I also deny before my Father which is in heaven. if you are not for the Lord Jesus, but deny Him in not believing God's word that is said about Him, then u r antichrist, plain and simple |
| Re: "How Can One Witness To A Jehovah's Witness?" by johnw74: 12:36am On Jul 06, 2017 |
achorladey:marathon runner ac hor ladey cannot answer - runs away from: "is Jesus a true God or a false god"  |
| Re: "How Can One Witness To A Jehovah's Witness?" by johnw74: 1:01am On Jul 06, 2017*. Modified: 2:47am On Jul 06, 2017 |
achorladey:Joh 17:3 And this is life eternal, that they might know thee the only true God, and Jesus Christ, whom thou hast sent. It's true the Father is the only true God, so is the Word, God is one God, one Spirit, not restricted to being one person though, John 1:1, and many other scriptures show Jesus Christ is God, go back and read them, and read the Yahovah - Jesus verses as well, buy alas eyes to see are needed, the blinded phony jw's are lost. Jesus is speaking in John 17:3 from His human perspective, He often spoke from His God perspective also, for instance, saying things like "I and the Father are one" Jesus went on to say, after showing that Father is the one true God: Joh 17:5 And now, O Father, glorify thou me with thine own self with the glory which I had with thee before the world was. "Glorify me with thy own self, with the glory which I had", "Jesus is the image of the Father" "I and the Father are one" the Word is exactly the same as Father, no difference whatsoever, how can He be anything but God, as the Bible shows. However antichrist false jw's call Him "a god" etc., and u ac hor ladey cannot say as God's word says: "Jesus Christ is my Lord and Saviour" |
| Re: "How Can One Witness To A Jehovah's Witness?" by johnw74: 1:09am On Jul 06, 2017*. Modified: 2:48am On Jul 06, 2017 |
achorladey:of course u ac cannot stop lying, it is natural to you: Joh_8:44 Ye are of your father the devil, and the lusts of your father ye will do. He was a murderer from the beginning, and abode not in the truth, because there is no truth in him. When he speaketh a lie, he speaketh of his own: for he is a liar, and the father of it. I can say and love to say: "Jesus Christ is my Lord and Saviour" antichrists denying the Lord and Saviour Jesus Christ cannot say that, can u |
| Re: "How Can One Witness To A Jehovah's Witness?" by Barristter07: 9:40am On Jul 06, 2017 |
Hairyrapunzel Hairyrapunzel:  " These are the promises that enable you to share his divine nature " 2 Pet 1:4 NLT they will share his what ? Maybe the phrase " partaking in the divine nature" means that humans become divine or humans become God to you.Hehehehehehe, Tell us what it means to you? 1 Like |
| Re: "How Can One Witness To A Jehovah's Witness?" by Hairyrapunzel: 1:06pm On Jul 06, 2017 |
Barristter07:First you says humans will have divine nature Next you say humans will share with him in his Divine nature Now you are saying share his divine nature Why should I tell you what the passage means to me I already know what the passage means to you To you it means humans will become God and humans will become divine. |
| Re: "How Can One Witness To A Jehovah's Witness?" by Hairyrapunzel: 1:10pm On Jul 06, 2017 |
achorladey:I say there is only one true God. I say Jesus is God I say he is my personal Lord and Saviour. You say Jesus christ is a God and I asked what kind of God is Jesus? Is he a True god or a false god? You still haven't given answer. Since you believe what your bible and what your governing body members tell you the passage means so tell me is Jesus Christ a True or a false god? Still waiting for your reply |
| Re: "How Can One Witness To A Jehovah's Witness?" by Barristter07: 1:55pm On Jul 06, 2017 |
Hairyrapunzel Hairyrapunzel:What I say is not the issue here , But what the Bible says . " These are the promises that enable you to share his divine nature " 2 Pet 1:4 NLT According to the above scripture , they will share his what ?? Why should I tell you what the passage means to meYou are using a wrong premise to form a validation that Christ is equal to his God . I asked what you meant by Gods nature and you replied " Divine nature " (**) . A response that is vital towards unraveling the truth of the Situation. Your telling us what it means will let us know if Having Divine nature means a person is equal to God. Tell us if this humans are equal to God since they will share Gods nature . So you need to tell us what you understand from 2 Pet 1:4 , It clearly said Humans will share with God in his divine nature. " These are the promises that enable you to share his divine nature " 2 Pet 1:4 NLT Therefore , Tell what the above means to you? 3 Likes |
| Re: "How Can One Witness To A Jehovah's Witness?" by Hairyrapunzel: 4:20pm On Jul 06, 2017 |
Barristter07:I am still looking for the passage where peter said Jesus Christ and humans will partake in the divine nature You take a phrase out of a verse and that phrase becomes your doctrine like I said read the whole chapter and understand it before you quote a phrase out of a verse. There were phrases before and after it Continue your twisting scriptures and twisting peoples words to suit your doctrine just like your 7 men in new York Read the whole 2 peter 1 before cutting out a phrase and using it to support your doctrine Jesus Christ is God, Jesus Christ is my personal Lord and Saviour and there is only one true God. |
| Re: "How Can One Witness To A Jehovah's Witness?" by Nobody: 5:00pm On Jul 06, 2017 |
U can't witness to a Jehovah witness. They are an Extremist group, They only witness to u and wen u try to return the favor, they will walk out on u or walk u out. 1 Like |
| Re: "How Can One Witness To A Jehovah's Witness?" by ableguy(m): 7:19pm On Jul 06, 2017 |
Barristter07:Lol, don't mind them. Confusion fall on them  1 Like 1 Share |
| Re: "How Can One Witness To A Jehovah's Witness?" by achorladey: 7:57pm On Jul 06, 2017 |
Hairyrapunzel:It is better you keep on the watch for it. 1 Like |
| Re: "How Can One Witness To A Jehovah's Witness?" by johnw74: 12:45am On Jul 07, 2017 |
Barristter07: ableguy:so say's a fool in his folly |
| Re: "How Can One Witness To A Jehovah's Witness?" by johnw74: 12:46am On Jul 07, 2017*. Modified: 6:59am On Jul 07, 2017 |
Barristter07:lie lie barristter, u cannot help but lie u can use "He" instead of "God" in that verse if you want, but you cannot rightly deny that the "He" spoken of is "God", but you do deny it, that's why you argue for "He" instead of "God". So point out the other name or title besides God in those verses that is being referred too, it is "God" that was manifest in the flesh The Mystery of Godliness 1Ti 3:14 These things write I unto thee, hoping to come unto thee shortly: 1Ti 3:15 But if I tarry long, that thou mayest know how thou oughtest to behave thyself in the house of God, which is the church of the living God, the pillar and ground of the truth. 1Ti 3:16 And without controversy great is the mystery of godliness: God was manifest in the flesh, justified in the Spirit, seen of angels, preached unto the Gentiles, believed on in the world, received up into glory. only "God" is mentioned: "the house of "God", the Church of the living "God", "Godliness" John here say's it also, John uses "He was manifested" here, and is clearly talking of God: 1Jn 3:1 Behold, what manner of love the Father hath bestowed upon us, that we should be called the sons of God: therefore the world knoweth us not, because it knew him(God) not. 1Jn 3:2 Beloved, now are we the sons of God, and it doth not yet appear what we shall be: but we know that, when he(God) shall appear, we shall be like him(God); for we shall see him(God) as he(God) is. 1Jn 3:3 And every man that hath this hope in him(God) purifieth himself, even as he(God) is pure. 1Jn 3:4 Whosoever committeth sin transgresseth also the law: for sin is the transgression of the law. 1Jn 3:5 And ye know that he(God) was manifested to take away our sins; and in him(God) is no sin. Of course it's Jesus Christ the Word spoken of, and He is called "God" in 1 John, and in 1 Timothy. You can call Him "He" but believe the Bible that shows it's referring to "God, the Lord and Saviour Jesus Christ" However being blinded u cannot c that, lie lie barristter. Just read all the Bible verses I have posted showing that Jesus is God, but believe them. |
| Re: "How Can One Witness To A Jehovah's Witness?" by johnw74: 1:14am On Jul 07, 2017 |
achorladey:ha ha, false jw mumbo jumbo you have shown consistently that you know next to nothing. |
| Re: "How Can One Witness To A Jehovah's Witness?" by ableguy(m): 9:04am On Jul 07, 2017 |
johnw74:Can you kindly stop mentioning me, thanks. |
| Re: "How Can One Witness To A Jehovah's Witness?" by Barristter07: 9:13am On Jul 07, 2017 |
Hairyrapunzel:Arey , who asked you all this story O ma se o , Simple question tell us what you understand from the verse, They will share Which Nature ? " These are the promises that enable you to share his divine nature " 2 Pet 1:4 NLT 1 Like |
| Re: "How Can One Witness To A Jehovah's Witness?" by Hairyrapunzel: 11:51am On Jul 07, 2017 |
Barristter07:2 peter 1: 3-4 3 as His divine power has given to us all things that pertain to life and godliness, through the knowledge of Him who called us by glory and virtue, 4 by which have been given to us exceedingly great and precious promises, that through these you may be partakers of the divine nature, having escaped the corruption that is in the world through lust. The passage basically talks about christians through knowing and believing in Jesus Christ we have been given promises which are exceedingly great that we may have a godly life or life filled with godliness having given up our sinful ways. Basically talks about having a close relationship with God, communicating with God and having the holy spirit in us. There is no place in the bible where they said Jesus would be among the Sharers with human beings The nature of Jesus is divine and Jesus Christ is God whether you and your 7 men in new York like it or not. And always quote a verse fully when putting down the verse do not take an excerpt from the verse When reading a passage read the whole chapter to get the real message rather than taking a phrase from a verse and making a doctrine based on that phrase. You are being deceitful when quoting a phrase and putting 2 peter 1:4 by the side or are you afraid of quoting the full verse? There are so many verses that point to Jesus christ as God in the bible Phil 2:5-11 5 In your relationships with one another, have the same mindset as Christ Jesus: 6 Who, being in very nature[a] God, did not consider equality with God something to be used to his own advantage; 7 rather, he made himself nothing by taking the very nature[b] of a servant, being made in human likeness. 8 And being found in appearance as a man, he humbled himself by becoming obedient to death— even death on a cross! 9 Therefore God exalted him to the highest place and gave him the name that is above every name, 10 that at the name of Jesus every knee should bow, in heaven and on earth and under the earth, 11 and every tongue acknowledge that Jesus Christ is Lord, to the glory of God the Father. Read the whole chapter in a passage try to get the message it's trying to convey rather than take a phrase from a verse in the passage and make your doctrines based on that phrase. |
| Re: "How Can One Witness To A Jehovah's Witness?" by Barristter07: 11:56am On Jul 07, 2017 |
Hairyrapunzel:Address the Bold , very essential ! 1 Like |
| Re: "How Can One Witness To A Jehovah's Witness?" by Hairyrapunzel: 1:05pm On Jul 07, 2017 |
Barristter07:I can't take a phrase out of a verse and address the issue. If that's what you do good for you for me I wont do that. I won't quote a verse out of context. |
| Re: "How Can One Witness To A Jehovah's Witness?" by Hairyrapunzel: 1:08pm On Jul 07, 2017 |
Barristter07:JWs and their usual style of taking a phrase from a verse and making a doctrine out of that phrase. |
| Re: "How Can One Witness To A Jehovah's Witness?" by Barristter07: 1:48pm On Jul 07, 2017 |
Hairyrapunzel Hairyrapunzel:Explain the bolded, you start crying they take phrase out of context ... pure Ignorance . And it was Barristter07 that insert the phrase shey ? According to that scripture , They will be sharers of WHICH NATURE ?? 2 Likes |
| Re: "How Can One Witness To A Jehovah's Witness?" by Hairyrapunzel: 3:37pm On Jul 07, 2017 |
Barristter07:You asked me to explain 2peter1:4 which I did. You would have said I should repeat the phrase after you instead of asking me to explain the phrase. Since you say humans are divine and they are God good for you. I am not 7 men in new York who take phrases out of a verse and make their doctrine based on only that one phrase in the bible. Continue quoting phrases of a verse out of the context Just like you quote abstainING from blood means refusing blood transfusion killing yourselves and your children for your jehovah. |
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