Peachess:
No, fucking way, I can't do that. You don't expect me to go through the stress of getting a degree, then settling with someone lesser than I am. The truth is, there's always going to be jealousy and so many annoying shit like that. I want someone that reasons better than me, that I can have a reasonable conversation with. Most educated people can't even have a reasonable conversation not to talk of a school dropout.

Conventional thought

I don't support not hustling to go for higher institution but nevertheless Grade doesn't define intelligence

As far as I am concerned, there are three hallmarks of being educated.

1. The ability to express yourself articulately in spoken and written English(or the lingua franca of your country)

2. The acquisition of a skill or knowledge that is marketable and lucrative.

3. Being extensively informed about your environment and the world at large.

The above are what defines an educated person. and if I was a lady, this would be my criteria in choosing a guy, and not some piece of paper that can be easily bought or undeservedly acquired.

Tuham:



Conventional thought

I don't support not hustling to go for higher institution but nevertheless Grade doesn't define intelligence

I know it's not all about grades but to me it's the exposure higher institutions gives. Everyone has a choice and what they look for in a partner. Like some people won't even consider dating an ugly partner, but when someone else says what she wants, they abuse them and stuffs like that. I wonder when Nigerians will learn to respect other people's view even if they don't share the same view with them.

BluntBoy:


Yes, that's true. Have a nice night and stay blessed.

Thanks and same to you

Peachess:

I know it's not all about grades but to me it's the exposure higher institutions gives. Everyone has a choice and what they look for in a partner. Like some people won't even consider dating an ugly partner, but when someone else says what she wants, they abuse them and stuffs like that. I wonder when Nigerians will learn to respect other people's view even if they don't share the same view with them.

I actually respect your view ma'am

Infact i would likely tell my future daughter to do the same

Ayam just am saying my thoughts 'bout the matter

crixuss:
As far as I am concerned, there are three hallmarks of being educated.

1. The ability to express yourself articulately in spoken and written English

2. The acquisition of a skill that is marketable and lucrative.

3. Being extensively informed about your environment and the world at large.

The above are what defines an educated person. and if I was a lady, this would be my criteria in choosing a guy, and not some piece of paper that can be easily bought or undeservedly acquired.

There are people with the piece of paper ,they worked for it, they didn't buy it and they have all the above qualities, maybe that's what some ladies want...

Tuham:



I actually respect your view ma'am

Infact i would likely tell my future daughter to do the same

Ayam just am saying my thoughts 'bout the matter

I know, I'm just mad at those people that have been quoting me, the funny thing they won't even advice their sisters or daughters to get married to someone like that.

pocohantas:


How are they different? They are all people lacking something that makes compatibility easier among partners. be it EDUCATIONAL, PHYSICAL, RELIGIOUS, CULTURAL, FINANCIAL...ETC!!!

There is a reason you don't just walk on the streets and pick any girl, you have choices, that are somehow superficial... you look out for.

Some people's own is degree, your own might be religion. CHOICE!!!!! It's not up to you to tell them theirs is flawed and yours isn't.

Oga,nowhere in any of my post did I mention smartness or being informed as my reason. Please, don't implicate me.

You should also consider there are various types of disabled people, just hook up with one and marry. Since you're so liberal and nice

I agree that we all make choices but there is always an underlying reason for which those choices are made and I believe we should question those underlying reasons. That's the essence of this discussion. I might decide not to date a disabled person but my reason for doing this isn't the same reason why you wouldn't want to date someone who doesn't have a degree, hence why your analogy is flawed. The fact that you can't see how your analogy doesn't apply to this discussion is quite worrying.

You made a choice not to date a guy without a degree and from weighing the underlying reasons for making the choice, I felt they were misguided and ill-informed probably because you haven't thought seriously about it, and all I'm trying to do is enlighten you on the subject

pocohantas:


There are people with the piece of paper ,they worked for it, they didn't buy it and they have all the above qualities, maybe that's what some ladies want...

So essentially, the difference between someone who possesses the degree and has those qualities and someone who doesn't possess the degree but has those qualities is the paper? Meaning what you are actually interested in is the paper?

Peachess:

I know, I'm just mad at those people that have been quoting me, the funny thing they won't even advice their sisters or daughters to get married to someone like that.

Just let it pass ehn, Some people can not deal with reality.

And once again; you had a point but that does not mean i discarded my own opinion too oh

Lol

Good night

trojan84:


Do u carry ur certificate about? If not, it doesn't show on the forehead that u didn't go to the university provided u are literate and well to do, dre won't b any questions asked trust me

Not for too long, they will still know.
It happened to someone close.

Peachess:

You can ask Google if you don't mind

I'd rather you present your own definition because it's now apparent that the definition of what an educated person is, is subjective.

crixuss:


I agree that we all make choices but there is always an underlying reason for which those choices are made and I believe we should question those underlying reasons. That's the essence of this discussion. I might decide not to date a disabled person but my reason for doing this isn't the same reason why you wouldn't want to date someone who doesn't have a degree, hence why your analogy is flawed. The fact that you can't see how your analogy doesn't apply to this discussion is quite worrying.

You made a choice not to date a guy without a degree and from weighing the underlying reasons for making the choice, I felt they were misguided and ill-informed probably because you haven't thought seriously about it, and all I'm trying to do is enlighten you on the subject

The fact that you can't see my analogy all stems down to choice is quite worrying. Your reason for not dating them is all about your choice and whatever revolves around that choice. My reason for not dating same disabled person might not be same with yours.

Are there educated men who are smart, well informed and all those things you listed, who have degrees or relevant certifications they worked for? YES. That's the man I want.

Misguided isn't up to you to judge. As long as no one is condescending about his or her choice, you should do well to stop playing judge judy. You're not any better if you won't date just anyone for any single reason, no matter how well informed you think your reasons are.

crixuss:


So essentially, the difference between someone who possesses the degree and has those qualities and someone who doesn't possess the degree but has those qualities is the paper? Meaning what you are actually interested in is the paper?

I'm interested in the formal process required in getting the 'paper'.

crixuss:




A degree is merely a written statement that one has acquired knowledge or skill in a certain area. Now if one doesn't have that written statement, it doesn't mean he or she hasn't acquired such knowledge or skill.

Baba you just nailed the whole thing with those few lines. back then I used to know of about 2 guys that got admitted into my department illegally but they carried on with the rest of the students even up to there 400l,they always attended lectures and it was only in there 400l did they school now rusticated them.

So if education in Nigeria is anything to go by,can we still call those guys uneducated or illiterates just because they failed to Clinch there 'degrees' on paper even after studying for 4years with just a few months to round up.

Rubbiish:
Not for too long, they will still know. It happened to someone close.

Dey will definitely knw since he has got nothing to hide

Is this not the same graduates that our universities are churning out? Graduates that can't speak nor write correct English? Graduates that think the world owes them a great debt because they sort there way through the university? There are so many non graduate out there whose intelligence surpass those grads..

shinarlaura:

Thanks and same to you

Merci, belle femme

No i won't. Many things are at stake here.
1. Our opinions will always differ.
2. He would find it hard to keep an educative conversation alive.
3. I want a husband who will always help me clear my doubts especially academically.
4. My kids needs to learn from their father, not every time "where ur mama dey?"
5. I'm highly attracted to intelligence.
6. Some decisions would be hard to make in the family.
7. He'll always tag me "i too know".
No be certificate i dey marry, but you've got to choose wisely.

pocohantas:


The fact that you can't see my analogy all stems down to choice is quite worrying. Your reason for not dating them is all about your choice and whatever revolves around that choice. My reason for not dating same disabled person might not be same with yours.

Are there educated men who are smart, well informed and all those things you listed, who have degrees or relevant certifications they worked for? YES. That's the man I want.

Misguided isn't up to you to judge. As long as no one is condescending about his or her choice, you should do well to stop playing judge judy. You're not any better if you won't date just anyone for any single reason, no matter how well informed you think your reasons are.


I'm interested in the formal process required in getting the 'paper'.

But you have failed to present a tenable argument for why you prefer a person with a degree to one who doesn't. The only thing I can infer from everything you have said is that what you are mostly concerned about is the paper. You don't care about a man's level of intelligence, his wit, how informed he is, the marketable skills he has acquired, his level of financial success, or his ability to speak and write in proper English, as long as he doesn't have the paper he is unqualified to marry you. With all due respect and without wanting to sound condescending in anyway, this is a very naive opinion to have and it seems like the opinion of someone who has been brainwashed to regard having a degree as the most important criteria when choosing a man, and not an opinion she arrived at through independently thinking about the subject in an informed manner.

pocohantas:
NO. Not just having the degree, but being grounded in his field...academically.

Please, nobody should come here to form holier than thou and smh for Nigerians. We all have something that attracts us to the opposite sex, love isn't blind after all. That's why some guys won't marry that hardworking girl selling fish in the market, you'll prefer the hardworking banker.

For some, it's religious inclination, some educational, physical, financial, cultural...etc. It doesn't make you better than them, you also saw something in your own partner that they probably won't care about, because it's not something that ticks the box for them.

Except you can marry that uneducated, timid, disabled [I mean no offence to this group], and not too good looking male/female, don't just try to form better than others.

We all have our choices, If you're not condescending about it...no probz.

gbam gbamer gbamest !!!!!

We usually don't tell ourselves the truth in Nigeria

BluntBoy:


Merci, belle femme

De rien

sunshineG:
gbam gbamer gbamest !!!!!

We usually don't tell ourselves the truth in Nigeria

Chai! Which one is gbamer gbamest again? Lol

Pynkylypz:
Chai! Which one is gbamer gbamest again? Lol

pigin English grammar we dey kampe edition

sunshineG:
gbam gbamer gbamest !!!!!

We usually don't tell ourselves the truth in Nigeria

They can keep deceiving themselves like they can marry just any person...they are better people, we are naive and ignorant

crixuss:


But you have failed to present a tenable argument for why you prefer a person with a degree to one who doesn't. The only thing I can infer from everything you have said is that what you are mostly concerned about is the paper. You don't care about a man's level of intelligence, his wit, how informed he is, the marketable skills he has acquired, his level of financial success, or his ability to speak and write in proper English, as long as he doesn't have the paper he is unqualified to marry you. With all due respect and without wanting to sound condescending in anyway, this is a very naive opinion to have and it seems like the opinion of someone who has been brainwashed to regard having a degree as the most important criteria when choosing a man, and not an opinion she arrived at through independently thinking about the subject in an informed manner.

K Sir. You're right...

sunshineG:
pigin English grammar we dey kampe edition

Lol.. Okay

pocohantas:


They can keep deceiving themselves like they can marry just any person...

Some of the ladies claiming they can date undergraduate are the most "egotistic" ladies on this forum ( full of themselves) like they own nairaland or something

They even hardy return friendly mentions of guys they deem to be below them....

Hypocrisy at its peak

sunshineG:
Some of the ladies claiming they can date undergraduate are the most "egoistic" ladies on this forum ( full of themselves) like they own nairaland or something

They even hardy return friendly mentions of guys they deem to be below them....

Hypocrisy at its peak

I have no problem with their choices though, if they are okay with an 'undergraduate'...I am sure there is something else they will like about him. Something I might not care about.

I also don't respond to mentions like that o. If I tell you my own reason, you will say I am worse.

sunshineG:
Some of the ladies claiming they can date undergraduate are the most "egotistic" ladies on this forum ( full of themselves) like they own nairaland or something

They even hardy return friendly mentions of guys they deem to be below them....

Hypocrisy at its peak

Jeez!!

pocohantas:


Perfect arrangement for them. He wants educated beautiful women, they want a powerful rich man. There are lots of educated women who won't be comfortable tying wrapper with lots of beads on their body, he won't get those ones with all his money, power and fame.

He has gotten the ones that want him too. It's not all about money to several ladies.

getting married to some of these illiterate traditional chiefs has many benefits for young ladies..if u are educated up to univ level they treat u more special compared to their other illiterate wives.u might have ur own flat with a car and a driver assigned.u will live in complete luxury.tell me wich lady can resist such in naija.and about the issue of bead wearing and wrapper tying ...it wont be a 24 hour tin na.its only during occasions u will have to wear beads and tie wrapper.