LZAA:


laudate and strikethem wee not like this
brutality

imhotep:

Afonja want to sell their land and still own it

Strikethem:
I didn't see you on the thread where one of your billionaire sisters used her daughter for collateral for 100 naira debt. Why did you avoid the thread

LaudableXX:


Your opening statement shows that you are bent on being mischievous. Lagos state has Yoruba origins, as well as an indigenous Yoruba population. Yes or No? The answer you give, will reveal if you are a cretin, or a practical objective observer.

Secondly, Yorubas were already indigenous to Lagos, right from pre-colonial times before the seaports, airports etc., were built. Yorubas already existed in Lagos, with some of their kith and kin spread across different areas, who came across to join them. Go back and read up the history of Lagos and its environs, as well as the different indigenous Yoruba groups (e.g. Aworis etc) that make up the state. So what is the issue? How can you even ask why Yorubas are in Lagos? It is laughable. It is like asking how can Igbos be in Onitsha or Aba?

Calabar was also once a federal capital. Even Lokoja was once the capital of the British Northern Nigeria Protectorate, and later became a centre of administration, for the British colonial government after the amalgamation. What is the population of Igbo people in Lokoja, compared to their population in Lagos?

Lagos Island was only the federal capital, and NOT the whole of Lagos state. Areas like Ikeja, Palmgrove, Ilupeju were parts of the old Western Region. Yet it did not stop your people from migrating into that part of the old Western region. Lagos stopped being a federal capital 27 years ago, but your Igbo people still keep flocking into Lagos every single day, till date. So stop trying to use that excuse of 'federal capital.' Your people also trooped into Port-harcourt en masse. Port-harcourt was not a federal capital, even though it had an international seaport, an international airport as well as lots of infrastructure invested in it.

While going up and down, your people keep claiming their SE region is economically viable. But why would anyone leave an economically viable region? And if you claim that they migrate because they want new opportunities, are you admitting that there is a lack of opportunities for your people in the SE region? It then becomes a paradox. How can an economically viable region, lack opportunities?

Laziness is really not a reason for lack of migration. And you need to stop thinking that 'buying and selling,' is the only type of business or hard work, that exists. There are people who invent things and solve problems that cause them to earn millions, without leaving their zones.

If there is enough prosperity in the SE region, how come your people still end up leaving that 'prosperity,' and going to other regions to seek opportunities? Again, can a truly prosperous area, lack opportunities? And are these new opportunities your people seek, totally absent from their region, or is your region of prosperity and potentials devoid of opportunities, that can make your people truly successful? You really need to stop contradicting yourself....

Strikethem:
You selling land to those that use their childrens as collateral for 100naira debt

LZAA:

michael004 the ewedu goblin

imhotep:

recycling fake news will not save you from the facts LMAO

cc lzaa onyeoga

Strikethem:
Which kind question is this for God sake. Even a kindergarten student will slap you for this kind question. Are you this daft? Asking the owners of a land why they are many there. Why don't you go and ask South Africans why they are so many in juhanesbourg, why don't you go and ask Indians why they are so many in Mumbai, why not ask Italians why they are many in Milan or Germans why they are many in Munich. So what nwazurike said about you people is very apt, so also nwosu.

Strikethem:
Very laughable my brother. I have never seen such a dumb question that a kindergarten student must not ask before. Why Yorubas are in Lagos hehehehehe.

Strikethem:
Omo, this Michael004 guy is really tormenting you o. Where is the guy self . I need to praise him.

LiberaDeus:


You are an idiot. Comprehension is your problem. You read at face value and cant see between the lines.

You couldnt see that the question was asking why the number of yorubas in lagos in comparison to other SW cities is very high.

Because you cant see the meaning, you cant see the potential answer and the implication of that answer.

LiberaDeus:


You are so foolish.

Me asking that question is like asking italians why the population of milan is higher than that of genoa or calabria. And believe you me, without being defensive, they can give technical reasons stating influences like economic, infrasructural, political etc a7s to why those cities have higher populations. And using italy as an example, most of the people living in Milan most likely do not have ancestry that can be traced there to m0re than 300 years.

The same goes for any country. There is a reason why new york has a higher population than new jersey or Los angeles has a higher population than nevada. But your myopic mind cant see the reason behind the question.

The technical reasons that has caused most yorubas from other states in the SW to migrate down to lagos also holds for other citizens of the country. So dont act surprised that igbos and other ethnicities are in lagos.

I am almost 100% sure that you are not a lagosian by ancestry. Why are you all so ashamed of your states? No igbo will forget where he is from. We know our states, we travel there frequently, we build houses there and we are proud of them even if we utilize other opportunities presented by our country at large. For the mere fact that you see it as a taboo that people leave their regions to come to yours shows that at heart you yorubas do not believe in nigeria. You want to eat your cake and have it. You claim to support one nigeria but you dont want one nigerian migration. You expect the largest seaport to be in your region but you dont expect the largest importers to be there.

I can almost bet that you are not from Lagos as over 90% of yorubas in lagos are not from lagos originally. Being cheap, many of them have shelved their original identity to form Omo eko.

I repeat again, you are not the owner of any land you do not have documentation for. You are only emotionally attaching yourself there because the indigenous people of lagos are also yorubas. You are not the owner or co-owner of lagos or any thing there unless you pay for it. Get that into your head.

LiberaDeus:


You are an idiot. Comprehension is your problem. You read at face value and cant see between the lines.

You couldnt see that the question was asking why the number of yorubas in lagos in comparison to other SW cities is very high.

Because you cant see the meaning, you cant see the potential answer and the implication of that answer.

LiberaDeus:


You are so foolish.

Me asking that question is like asking italians why the population of milan is higher than that of genoa or calabria. And believe you me, without being defensive, they can give technical reasons stating influences like economic, infrasructural, political etc as to why those cities have higher populations. And using italy as an example, most of the people living in Milan most likely do not have ancestry that can be traced there to m0re than 300 years.

The same goes for any country. There is a reason why new york has a higher population than new jersey or Los angeles has a higher population than nevada. But your myopic mind cant see the reason behind the question.

The technical reasons that has caused most yorubas from other states in the SW to migrate down to lagos also holds for other citizens of the country. So dont act surprised that igbos and other ethnicities are in lagos.

I am almost 100% sure that you are not a lagosian by ancestry. Why are you all so ashamed of your states? No igbo will forget where he is from. We know our states, we travel there frequently, we build houses there and we are proud of them even if we utilize other opportunities presented by our country at large. For the mere fact that you see it as a taboo that people leave their regions to come to yours shows that at heart you yorubas do not believe in nigeria. You want to eat your cake and have it. You claim to support one nigeria but you dont want one nigerian migration. You expect the largest seaport to be in your region but you dont expect the largest importers to be there.

I can almost bet that you are not from Lagos as over 90% of yorubas in lagos are not from lagos originally. Being cheap, many of them have shelved their original identity to form Omo eko.

I repeat again, you are not the owner of any land you do not have documentation for. You are only emotionally attaching yourself there because the indigenous people of lagos are also yorubas. You are not the owner or co-owner of lagos or any thing there unless you pay for it. Get that into your head.

Pigsandidiots:
Bla, bla, bla. Many ondo people are living in ekiti, many ekiti are living in ondo, many Osun people are living in ogun, many ogun are living in oyo. No igboman claim Lagos you say, I laugh in Swahili, I can't count how many people bearing emeka, Chigozie but trying to claim Lagos. Even on facebook, you will see your brothers claiming Lagos as state of origin. I have not seen Yorubas that will not tell you where he's from, even those that has not been to their states before knows where they come from. Why did Anthony Joshua telling us he's from ogun and not Lagos, but he has every right to say he's from Lagos. You say igbo man will tell you his village, before nko, will he claim lagos before, where will he say he gets his name from, does someone bearing chukwudi has any back up to say he is from lagos, a yoruba land. Are you ok. Do you expect someone that bears adamu to come to any yoruba state to claim any of them even if he can speak the language. So how can someone bearing kunle living in enugu claim enugu and not tell where he is from. Does he has any other option. Oga, open yor brain and reason like humans.

Strikethem:
[s][/s]You write too much epistle. I thought you are intelligent until you asked a very dumb question that a madman that his brain has been damaged must not ask. You do not need to be, I am not from Lagos but I am from oodua land, I mean yorubaland of which Lagos is a bona-fide part. I can live in any part of Yoruba land. Are all your people living in Owerri are from owerri? Are all your people living in awka from awka? Are all your people living in enugu from enugu? Are all South African living in juhanesbourg from juhanesbourg? Are you this daft to be asking such a Mumu question. Tell me how you want to defend yourself in front of nwazurike that you are not foolish as he said with this kind question a mad man must not ask. Even in your state where you come from, do they give you all you have for free?

Pigsandidiots:
Bla, bla, bla. Many ondo people are living in ekiti, many ekiti are living in ondo, many Osun people are living in ogun, many ogun are living in oyo. No igboman claim Lagos you say, I laugh in Swahili, I can't count how many people bearing emeka, Chigozie but trying to claim Lagos. Even on facebook, you will see your brothers claiming Lagos as state of origin. I have not seen Yorubas that will not tell you where he's from, even those that has not been to their states before knows where they come from. Why did Anthony Joshua telling us he's from ogun and not Lagos, but he has every right to say he's from Lagos. You say igbo man will tell you his village, before nko, will he claim lagos before, where will he say he gets his name from, does someone bearing chukwudi has any back up to say he is from lagos, a yoruba land. Are you ok. Do you expect someone that bears adamu to come to any yoruba state to claim any of them even if he can speak the language. So how can someone bearing kunle living in enugu claim enugu and not tell where he is from. Does he has any other option. Oga, open yor brain and reason like humans.

LiberaDeus:


You just helped me answer the question and display your foolishness.

As you said "i am not from lagos but i can live in any part of yorubaland"

I will also tell you " i am not from lagos but i can live in any part of nigeria"

Most importantly i wont forget my heritage and be claiming attache to lagos because its in nigeria unlike you who doesnt care abt your state but wants to forcefully force his ancestry into lagos

I am also not from owerri but i can live in owerri and i dont have to be claiming owerri as mine when i see hausas or yorubas there. Evry nigerian has the right to live peacefully there and thrive. It will be foolish of me to be reminding every nigerian in owerri that this is igboland and my land also. If i claim to be advanced then i wont be forcing clannish attachments just because i want to have an advantage over somebody.

The questions you asked abt people living in enugu being from enugu just buttresses my point.
There are anambrarians in enugu and other nigerian nationals there, so whats the fuss about. Why should an anambrarian be fighting a yoruba man in enugu and telling him to respect his land when he is from anambra. Is it not shamelessness that will make you forcefully attach your identity to a place that had serious federal investment.

A person with dignity will live the arguments for indigenes and face his own home state of origin and think abt how that place can compete with others. Not you guys that have totally forgotten that you are from Osun, Oyo , Ekiti etc.

You better start dealing with the fact that we are all in this country together and if you like draw an imaginary line in your head to demarcate oodualand in order to feel you have sth special, if you cant fight for your independence and be free from nigeria, then oodua land still remains part of nigeria and i am a bonafide nigerian citizen who can live and do business anywhere as long as am willing to aide peacefully and pay for everything.

LiberaDeus:


You just helped me answer the question and display your foolishness.

As you said "i am not from lagos but i can live in any part of yorubaland"

I will also tell you " i am not from lagos but i can live in any part of nigeria"

Most importantly i wont forget my heritage and be claiming attache to lagos because its in nigeria unlike you who doesnt care abt your state but wants to forcefully force his ancestry into lagos

I am also not from owerri but i can live in owerri and i dont have to be claiming owerri as mine when i see hausas or yorubas there. Evry nigerian has the right to live peacefully there and thrive. It will be foolish of me to be reminding every nigerian in owerri that this is igboland and my land also. If i claim to be advanced then i wont be forcing clannish attachments just because i want to have an advantage over somebody.

The questions you asked abt people living in enugu being from enugu just buttresses my point.
There are anambrarians in enugu and other nigerian nationals there, so whats the fuss about. Why should an anambrarian be fighting a yoruba man in enugu and telling him to respect his land when he is from anambra. Is it not shamelessness that will make you forcefully attach your identity to a place that had serious federal investment.

A person with dignity will live the arguments for indigenes and face his own home state of origin and think abt how that place can compete with others. Not you guys that have totally forgotten that you are from Osun, Oyo , Ekiti etc.

You better start dealing with the fact that we are all in this country together and if you like draw an imaginary line in your head to demarcate oodualand in order to feel you have sth special, if you cant fight for your independence and be free from nigeria, then oodua land still remains part of nigeria and i am a bonafide nigerian citizen who can live and do business anywhere as long as am willing to aide peacefully and pay for everything.

LiberaDeus:


Oga go and rest, you are reasoning as daftly as your brothers on this thread.

If you argue with a fool, they will bring you down to your level of stupidity and beat you with experience.
The fact that all you Swners here couldnt see the reason behind my question and see the logic behind it actually speaks volumes.

You people cant see the logic in the question thats why you attack the question as simplistic. It just shows the level of clannish and myopic reasoning you people display

Of course i know lagos is yoruba land and in the SW but you foolish people still didnt try to answer why it has a disproportionate number of yorubas living there compared to other places. Forget the non yorubas in SW, think about the yorubas there and ask yourself this,

What are the reasons for the influx into lagos over the past decades ? Why lagos over abeokuta and others?

When you answer that question to yourself then tell me why the answer shouldnt be valid for Nupes, Ebiras, Edos, Bini, Igalas, Igbos, Jukun, Tivs, Hausas, Ijaws, Urhobos and every ethnic group in nigeria migrating to lagos.

Strikethem:
[s][/s]And who ask you not to live in any part of Nigeria, even as an African, you can live in any part of Africa, so also in the world, you can live in any part of the world but does that make you the citizen of the nation. oya carry your name as an igbo and go to any local government in Lagos and tell them you are from Lagos and let them see your name. Let see if they will not see you as mad man. If I carry my name as Yoruba to any part of Yoruba land and tell them I am from there, they will only ask me some few questions, my name already qualify me for any further things. Even in your own local government, if you go there to claim you are from the state, your name will determine what next to do. Let one haruna carry his himself to any part of igboland to claim origin of the particular place and see what his name will do for him. Your name speaks volume of you. Staying in any part will never qualify you for indigen, every Yoruba in Lagos can say they are from Lagos, every Yoruba in ogun can say they are from there. There are family in ondo that bears Tinubu, if he's in Lagos, he will get the state of origin, unlike you from far away igboland. Open your brain boy and think. My brother's kid have both Ibadan local government identification, as well as his state of origin own. Tomorrow, he can go to Lagos and do the same. His name wins it for him. Not the he bears okechukwu and want to claim any part of yorubaland because he lives there. Know the difference. Oga, how many of us did you see telling you he's not from his state? My question is, do an igboman has any option than to say he's from his state here in Lagos? Even if you deny, your name will expose you. Let that stick into your skull. Yes, oodua still part of Nigeria, even if Nigeria divides today and the oodua stands, you still have right to live in any part. But like I said, your name disqualifies you completely. Chukwudi, you cannot tell me you are from Lagos. Mind that.

Strikethem:
Why are the influx of igbo in Lagos, a Yoruba land. Why am I even arguing with this one. Even your leaders already said you are a lazy thinkers and foolish. Which reasonable people will ask such a stupid question. Like I said, go and ask South Africans why they are many in juhanesbourg instead of other cities in their country. Gush, I now see the reason why nwazurike and nwosu said what they said.

LiberaDeus:


You are still very foolish and myopic.

To answer your question. There is a high influx of Igbos into lagos because lagos provides opportunities like no other nigerian state does. Investment opportunities due to being the former FCT, billions of dollars of federal infrastructure and the likes. That is the same reason there is a disproportionate number of yorubas living in lagos than in Osogbo.

As for the claim about leaders; Let me tell you an igbo saying that goes like

Igbo enweghi eze - meaning Igbos have no king

Who the hell is Uwazuruike? Someone fighting for relevance against nnamdi kanu, if you combine the massob and IPOB loyalists together, it still doesnt make up to 15% of the whole eastern population and am even being generous.

Who the hell is ABC Nwosu? An accomplished minister? We have tons of them. if Okonjo-Iweala was to speak now you would claim our leader has spoken or if Ojo Maduekwe was to speak you would also claim he is a leader.

No my friend, those people are just succesful people with right to an opinion and believe you me we have tons of them in the east so we arent fazed by such comments.

Unlike the SW where Tinubu personally handed over 40% of yoruba votes to Buhari in 2015 from a mere 5% in 2011. Tinubu can boast of having lagos in his pocket and even some neigboring states, Saraki can do the same for Kwara.

Please tell me how many Igbos can hoodwink a whole state and be eternal godfathers like Tinubu and Saraki do in the west.

And for your south african comment, i will try and ask a south african friend of mine why the population of Johannesburg is so much compared to some other towns. I am sure they will happily indulge me in the history of economic development of Johannesburg and also try to explain the reasons behind the migratory preferences of south africans. Simple question and simple answer. Not dilly dallying and beating around the bush like you guys.

Because you know that if you can actually look at the migratory pattern of yorubas to lagos then you will see that its just not cultural affinity that caused it but a search for greener pastures in the most economically viable state(thanks to FG) in the nation. If we are migrants to lagos then you are migrants just like us, just that you came a few decades earlier and some of us came earlier than you.

Strikethem:
Why are the influx of igbo in Lagos, a Yoruba land. Why am I even arguing with this one. Even your leaders already said you are a lazy thinkers and foolish. Which reasonable people will ask such a stupid question. Like I said, go and ask South Africans why they are many in juhanesbourg instead of other cities in their country. Gush, I now see the reason why nwazurike and nwosu said what they said.

LiberaDeus:


Oga when you write pls leave spaces so that your paragraphs can be very legible.

I never claimed am from lagos or any igbo man wants to claim lagos.

Your name logic only shows that with some advantages you can hoodwink people or get some benefits.

Am talking abt the reality here not what appears to be reality.

You do not tell me to leave lagos or to respect you in lagos when you are not indigenous to lagos. You dont say that.

Most of the omoniles in lagos are not from there, but the fact that they tax and sell lands to people does it make it right.

I am talking abt what is right and fair not what can be easily done.

And just because you bear the same name doesnt mean you are from there.
You have a state of origin and an LGA that is not in Lagos, because you have the language and name advantage doesnt mean you have the moral right to tell me what to do in lagos.

People that are unsuspecting in lagos might buy into that general yoruba propaganda but am not buying it. I will respect the indigenes and the customs of lagos but you do not deserve an iota of respect or deference from me because you are of the same tribe as them or bear the same name and can speak the same language. And even the indigenes cannot tell the residents to evacuate unless they make it an independent country.

So dont feel insulted or touchy over lagos, its part of nigeria and its a state with local govts and wards and you are not originally from it just as over 95% of the residents are not from it.

I pity the indigenous lagosians cause none of them have ever ruled that state in this nigerian dispensation.

And your name logic can also be likened to this scenario;
You go to a south american country lets say Colombia and you dont understand the language neither do you have the local names the people bear on any of your documents, it doesnt mean a Rodriguez or Enrique from neighboring Bolivia has the right to intimidate you, he has the cultural advantage but if you are naive you would miss the fact that the bolivian is also an immigrant.

Summary; Until Oodua republic becomes a real thing, until those within that region have the spine to fight for what they truly desire, me and you are all visitors to lagos state and can make it our home but not our place of origin

Pigsandidiots:
Don't waste your precious time dragging with that guy. Like you said, let him go to any local government in any part of Yoruba land to tell them he's from there with his name. When igboman thinks he has opinion in yorubaland.

Pigsandidiots:
Mr chukwudi, you have been told to take your name to any part of Yorubaland to claim you are indegen. . Leave epistle alone and act . Chukwudi, an indegen of Ragos.

LZAA:

knockout,knockout
michael004 is down i repeat michael004 is down
cc imhotep,onyeoga

Pigsandidiots:
Don't waste your precious time dragging with that guy. Like you said, let him go to any local government in any part of Yoruba land to tell them he's from there with his name. When igboman thinks he has opinion in yorubaland.

OnyeOGA:
LiberaDeus it will never be well with you. we Yoruba Muslims hereby give you a notice to quit for Insulting our Londom lzaa no be small knockout o.

OnyeOGA:

LiberaDeus it will never be well with you.
we Yoruba Muslims hereby give you a notice to quit for Insulting our Londom

lzaa no be small knockout o.