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Re: What's The Difference Between Christianity And Jehovah Witness? by Barristter07: 9:40pm On Jun 14, 2018
achorladey

achorladey:


Atleast you could have made research on "gathering together". For your information this is what our master and leader Matthew 23:10 say concerning gathering
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you are trying too hard , Did anyone deny Christ is the Leader ?



Matthew 18:20 For where two or three are gathered together in my name , there am I in the midst of them.


If you apply this scripture to Meeting together, recognize that God dislikes disorderliness as well .


Note the bold , in my name , what does it involve ? That's the question you should ask yourself.

Two or three people with different ideologies cannot just cannot just come together and say Jesus is in their midst , He doesn't want disorderliness.

Jesus want his disciples to be completely united in faith, " I make request, not concerning these only, but also concerning those putting faith in me through their word ,... that they may all BE ONE " John 17:21 , so those gathering together either one or two must be one . So you can't escape it .





The only thing I want you to do is........explain exhaustively how such gathering needs approval from an "Organization" or "Jehovah's Organization" as it were.


Ignorance of the scriptures .

Do the various congregation in the first century function independently of one another , Or recognize the leading of the apostles and Older men in Jerusalem ? Answer this question (Question P7)


As a reminder the head of the congregation is who JESUS CHRIST. Peter admits he is the overseer and shepherd of our souls 1 Peter 2:25. I have full confidence in such shepherd not those that are prone to error and mistake.

Au revoir

Bookmarked. If you don't listen to those who take the lead, You can't listen to Jesus , stop deceiving yourself this man .

The Older men appointed in each congregation have fulfilled the criteria spelled out in the scriptures and they are to be obeyed as directed by the Head of the Christian congregation through Paul.


Rebellious attitude Paul warned against At Hebrews 13:17 . am sure those talked about in that scriptures are not perfect men , are they ? Are they to be obeyed as directed by Heb 13:17 ? Did Paul said they will be perfect men ? Check yourself , And you will see rebellion. Am glad you exposed your true color yourself .

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Re: What's The Difference Between Christianity And Jehovah Witness? by Barristter07: 9:51pm On Jun 14, 2018
achorladey:


I am glad I have nothing against you as a person and all your post sent to me were properly addressesed by me.

In fulfilling the law of the christ you and I believed and agree that law of the christ is superior in all areas of life as recently taught.

If the law of christ is indeed superior, why then do the elders in the organization you subscribed to have a law book in which judicial decisions are based?

Why do the organization you subscribe to keep account of sins knowing fully well that Jehovah and Jesus abhor such doing.

I dont expect any reply from you. Feel free to adress it to the overseers of your soul in the congregation you attend currently.


Au revoir. Its a pleasure!!!!

grin grin

it's no longer about organization because you now know you are deceiving yourself and check the records of those pressing your remote control with all this ideas . Many of them no longer believed in God , Jesus or the Bible . Your case is sorry

, Your boat has now shifted to How Shepherds should protect the flock , Young man do you have any problem with Scriptural admonition : Remove the wicked person from your midst ?

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Re: What's The Difference Between Christianity And Jehovah Witness? by Barristter07: 10:00pm On Jun 14, 2018
grin grin grin Clearly lack Scriptural knowledge .

achorladey
do you believe Christian then have same line of thought and mind despite some minor difference that should not divide us?



Stop exposing your lack of knowledge , the highlighted just proved you don't know what you are saying nor doing . swinging left and right


, but that you may be COMPLETELY united in the same mind - 1 Corinthians 1:10


When you know the meaning of completely, you will retract your words

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Re: What's The Difference Between Christianity And Jehovah Witness? by Barristter07: 10:07pm On Jun 14, 2018
achorladey
As a reminder the head of the congregation is who JESUS CHRIST. Peter admits he is the overseer and shepherd of our souls 1 Peter 2:25. I have full confidence in such shepherd not those that are prone to error and mistake.




Rebellious spirit, Clearly not the mindset of mature Christian's Jesus through Apostle Paul sent this admonition:


Hebrews 13:17
Be obedient to those taking the lead [Whom are also imperfect ] among you and be submissive



Return home to those who will under the direction of Jesus , " keep watch over your souls " for Salvation . Hebrew 13:17

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Re: What's The Difference Between Christianity And Jehovah Witness? by Nobody: 3:12am On Jun 15, 2018
Barristter07:




Rebellious spirit, Clearly not the mindset of mature Christian's Jesus through Apostle Paul sent this admonition:


Hebrews 13:17
Be obedient to those taking the lead [Whom are also imperfect ] among you and be submissive



Return home to those who will under the direction of Jesus , " keep watch over your souls " for Salvation . Hebrew 13:17
Satan got them right where he wanted! Each one of them wants to be regarded as a worshipper of the same God but TOTALLY independent in thoughts and ideas,there shouldn't be any query regardless of whatever they choose to do,even sacred services could be of different theories! Certainly demons have taken control of most people in this time of the end.How then can people live together in peace in the absence of specific divine guidance? How can people distinguish between right and wrong to separate the truth from demonic worships? How can Christians from all land be united against Satan who is causing wars amongst mankind? How are we going to distinguish Christians from worshippers of various ancient deities. Truly Satan is a genius in disorder!

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Re: What's The Difference Between Christianity And Jehovah Witness? by Hairyrapunzel: 9:29am On Jun 15, 2018
Barristter07:




Rebellious spirit, Clearly not the mindset of mature Christian's Jesus through Apostle Paul sent this admonition:


Hebrews 13:17
Be obedient to those taking the lead [Whom are also imperfect ] among you and be submissive



Return home to those who will under the direction of Jesus , " keep watch over your souls " for Salvation . Hebrew 13:17

Can you imagine? Someone saying Jesus is his Shepherd is now a rebel? Only years and years of brainwashing will lead to this kind of thought.
You guys are exposing yourselves and your cult. Is this human being a Christian? So it's now a crime saying Jesus is his Shepherd? Wow
Re: What's The Difference Between Christianity And Jehovah Witness? by Hairyrapunzel: 9:33am On Jun 15, 2018
Riofidelio:
Satan got them right where he wanted! Each one of them wants to be regarded as a worshipper of the same God but TOTALLY independent in thoughts and ideas,there shouldn't be any query regardless of whatever they choose to do,even sacred services could be of different theories! Certainly demons have taken control of most people in this time of the end.How then can people live together in peace in the absence of specific divine guidance? How can people distinguish between right and wrong to separate the truth from demonic worships? How can Christians from all land be united against Satan who is causing wars amongst mankind? How are we going to distinguish Christians from worshippers of various ancient deities. Truly Satan is a genius in disorder!

So his saying Jesus Christ is his Shepherd now makes him a Satan follower? You guys need deprogramming.
So he should have humans like himself who are imperfect, uninspired, fallible, prone to errors and mistakes in organizational direction and doctrinal matters as his Shepherds instead of Jesus Christ the only Shepherd in the Bible ? You guys are becoming More and more hilarious.
Re: What's The Difference Between Christianity And Jehovah Witness? by Hairyrapunzel: 9:37am On Jun 15, 2018
Barristter07:


grin grin

it's no longer about organization because you now know you are deceiving yourself and check the records of those pressing your remote control with all this ideas . Many of them no longer believed in God , Jesus or the Bible . Your case is sorry

, Your boat has now shifted to How Shepherds should protect the flock , Young man do you have any problem with Scriptural admonition : Remove the wicked person from your midst ?


So saying the law of Christ is superior to any teaching has made him a wicked person?
Truly your teachings are clearly man made and not biblical
Re: What's The Difference Between Christianity And Jehovah Witness? by Hairyrapunzel: 9:39am On Jun 15, 2018
Barristter07:


grin grin

it's no longer about organization because you now know you are deceiving yourself and check the records of those pressing your remote control with all this ideas . Many of them no longer believed in God , Jesus or the Bible . Your case is sorry

, Your boat has now shifted to How Shepherds should protect the flock , Young man do you have any problem with Scriptural admonition : Remove the wicked person from your midst ?


So saying the law of Christ is superior to any teaching has made him a wicked person?
Truly your teachings are clearly man made and not biblical
You guys need deprogramming o. How will you consider somebody a wicked person because he chose to believe Bible teaching and throw away watchtower magazines teaching?
You guys keep cracking me up. Rotflol
Re: What's The Difference Between Christianity And Jehovah Witness? by achorladey: 9:46am On Jun 15, 2018
Barristter07:

achorladey


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you are trying too hard , Did anyone deny Christ is the Leader ?



If you apply this scripture to Meeting together, recognize that God dislikes disorderliness as well .


Note the bold , in my name , what does it involve ? That's the question you should ask yourself.

Two or three people with different ideologies cannot just cannot just come together and say Jesus is in their midst , He doesn't want disorderliness.

Jesus want his disciples to be completely united in faith, " I make request, not concerning these only, but also concerning those putting faith in me through their word ,... that they may all BE ONE " John 17:21 , so those gathering together either one or two must be one . So you can't escape it .





Ignorance of the scriptures .

Do the various congregation in the first century function independently of one another , Or recognize the leading of the apostles and Older men in Jerusalem ? Answer this question (Question P7)



Bookmarked. If you don't listen to those who take the lead, You can't listen to Jesus , stop deceiving yourself this man .

The Older men appointed in each congregation have fulfilled the criteria spelled out in the scriptures and they are to be obeyed as directed by the Head of the Christian congregation through Paul.


Rebellious attitude Paul warned against At Hebrews 13:17 . am sure those talked about in that scriptures are not perfect men , are they ? Are they to be obeyed as directed by Heb 13:17 ? Did Paul said they will be perfect men ? Check yourself , And you will see rebellion. Am glad you exposed your true color yourself .



Judgemental approach no good. No wonder an elder told a publisher that the day he disassociates himself/herself from the organization he can no longer worship Jehovah anymore.

It baffles me and I was forced to ask.....who did the publisher dedicate his life to in the first instance..... to God" or the "Organization".


27 My sheep listen to my voice; I know them, and they follow me. 28 I give them eternal life, and they shall never perish; no one will snatch them out of my hand. 29 My Father, who has given them to me, is greater than all c ; no one can snatch them out of my Father’s hand.

That is John 10:27-29 After reading, comeback and tell me the elder can snatch the sheep from the Fine shepherd. So far you are still struggling to wrap your head around my previous conversation. Threats or intimidation won't do. All your recent post is filled with intimidation nothing more.


Bye bye!!!!!
Re: What's The Difference Between Christianity And Jehovah Witness? by Hairyrapunzel: 9:46am On Jun 15, 2018
Barristter07:

achorladey


grin grin

you are trying too hard , Did anyone deny Christ is the Leader ?



If you apply this scripture to Meeting together, recognize that God dislikes disorderliness as well .


Note the bold , in my name , what does it involve ? That's the question you should ask yourself.

Two or three people with different ideologies cannot just cannot just come together and say Jesus is in their midst , He doesn't want disorderliness.

Jesus want his disciples to be completely united in faith, " I make request, not concerning these only, but also concerning those putting faith in me through their word ,... that they may all BE ONE " John 17:21 , so those gathering together either one or two must be one . So you can't escape it .





Ignorance of the scriptures .

Do the various congregation in the first century function independently of one another , Or recognize the leading of the apostles and Older men in Jerusalem ? Answer this question (Question P7)



Bookmarked. If you don't listen to those who take the lead, You can't listen to Jesus , stop deceiving yourself this man .

The Older men appointed in each congregation have fulfilled the criteria spelled out in the scriptures and they are to be obeyed as directed by the Head of the Christian congregation through Paul.


Rebellious attitude Paul warned against At Hebrews 13:17 . am sure those talked about in that scriptures are not perfect men , are they ? Are they to be obeyed as directed by Heb 13:17 ? Did Paul said they will be perfect men ? Check yourself , And you will see rebellion. Am glad you exposed your true color yourself .


Jesus is the only way, the truth and the life. No one goes to the Father except through him.

You don't need any middleman between Jesus and yourself. Jesus Christ is the mediator for all mankind.

Where in the Bible did they say orderliness or belonging to congregations guaranteed salvation?
You hold on to only one verse in a chapter turning a blind eye to the other verses in that same chapter. You guys are a deceitful lot.
Re: What's The Difference Between Christianity And Jehovah Witness? by Nobody: 11:28am On Jun 15, 2018
"Differences between Christians and Jehovah's witnesses" Christ is the head of everyman,He grouped His followers in two "Apostles and disciples",Apostles are the ones He uses to dispense spiritual food to all other disciples,He deals DIRECTLY with the Apostles,while these ones became His mouthpiece before all other disciples,in a case where a disciple chooses to deal DIRECTLY with Jesus such a person is trying to ignore the protocol set by Jesus Himself. Whatever Peter and the other eleven binds on Earth (as a governing body)will be bind in heaven and whatever they loose on Earth will be loose in heaven. Let's take a break and think for a moment, was Jesus saying Peter can bind and loose what is obvious to the layman's sight? Of course not because He adds "Will be... in heaven" meaning some may object but heavens have stamped it! And Jesus wasn't referring to ONLY Peter otherwise Paul couldn't have the impetus to correct Peter,so what did Jesus meant? Whenever the twelve are together whatever their conclusion as a body is binding on all Christians far and near. One of them may err as a person but the body as a whole has Jesus' backing and whoever challenges their decision is NO more a Christian! Today the Catholic Church supposed to be in that position but because the body(Vatican) was built around the political status of Roman Empire,most decisions were to boost the prowess of the emperor and Pope in Rome so they lost the privilege. This opened the way for other religious bodies to sprout referred to as the protestants down to our time until a small group that merits that position surfaced and Jesus in spirit as the King of God's Kingdom once again gave them that position. But most people are now used to Protestantism not realising that Jesus is not interested in contradictions. They felt anybody can hear Jesus directly and form his/her own Church so demons seized that opportunity to establish different religions all claiming Christians,this individuals do hear voices telling them to do something but instead of questioning such voices to know why there are other religious groups having different opinions pride and ego makes them feel they're simply special! That's is why honesthearted persons needs to IDENTIFY that ONE and ONLY group that Jesus is using to direct His earthly subjects today! So while Satan is promoting confusion with different religious bodies God's earthly organization is helping sincere ones to congregate together under one Lord (Jesus Christ) who is the fine shepherd.

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Re: What's The Difference Between Christianity And Jehovah Witness? by Hairyrapunzel: 8:04pm On Jun 15, 2018
Riofidelio:
"Differences between Christians and Jehovah's witnesses" Christ is the head of everyman,He grouped His followers in two "Apostles and disciples",Apostles are the ones He uses to dispense spiritual food to all other disciples,He deals DIRECTLY with the Apostles,while these ones became His mouthpiece before all other disciples,in a case where a disciple chooses to deal DIRECTLY with Jesus such a person is trying to ignore the protocol set by Jesus Himself. Whatever Peter and the other eleven binds on Earth (as a governing body)will be bind in heaven and whatever they loose on Earth will be loose in heaven. Let's take a break and think for a moment, was Jesus saying Peter can bind and loose what is obvious to the layman's sight? Of course not because He adds "Will be... in heaven" meaning some may object but heavens have stamped it! And Jesus wasn't referring to ONLY Peter otherwise Paul couldn't have the impetus to correct Peter,so what did Jesus meant? Whenever the twelve are together whatever their conclusion as a body is binding on all Christians far and near. One of them may err as a person but the body as a whole has Jesus' backing and whoever challenges their decision is NO more a Christian! Today the Catholic Church supposed to be in that position but because the body(Vatican) was built around the political status of Roman Empire,most decisions were to boost the prowess of the emperor and Pope in Rome so they lost the privilege. This opened the way for other religious bodies to sprout referred to as the protestants down to our time until a small group that merits that position surfaced and Jesus in spirit as the King of God's Kingdom once again gave them that position. But most people are now used to Protestantism not realising that Jesus is not interested in contradictions. They felt anybody can hear Jesus directly and form his/her own Church so demons seized that opportunity to establish different religions all claiming Christians,this individuals do hear voices telling them to do something but instead of questioning such voices to know why there are other religious groups having different opinions pride and ego makes them feel they're simply special! That's is why honesthearted persons needs to IDENTIFY that ONE and ONLY group that Jesus is using to direct His earthly subjects today! So while Satan is promoting confusion with different religious bodies God's earthly organization is helping sincere ones to congregate together under one Lord (Jesus Christ) who is the fine shepherd.
See someone that says he loves keeping pedophilles and rapists in the family instead of reporting them to police.
Re: What's The Difference Between Christianity And Jehovah Witness? by Hairyrapunzel: 8:32pm On Jun 15, 2018
Barristter07:




Rebellious spirit, Clearly not the mindset of mature Christian's Jesus through Apostle Paul sent this admonition:


Hebrews 13:17
Be obedient to those taking the lead [Whom are also imperfect ] among you and be submissive



Return home to those who will under the direction of Jesus , " keep watch over your souls " for Salvation . Hebrew 13:17

At least you agree you have leaders now.
How did they know Jesus Christ directed them to keep watch over your souls?

How did Jesus Christ direct them to keep watch over your souls?

Did they tell you that Jesus Christ directed them to keep watch over your souls?

Did your self appointed governing body tell you that the self appointed elders in Jw congregation are directed by Jesus Christ to keep watch over your souls?

This is becoming more and more interesting.
Re: What's The Difference Between Christianity And Jehovah Witness? by Saybal(m): 9:43am On Jun 16, 2018
Leave these people alone you are always attacking them what are you fighting for I hope you know that u cannot help God go and form your own movement if you like I Learn u are an ex member.go and preach like the Jw t least we discusses meaniful thing for an hour every Saturday they are harmless not the way u are portraying them I have not gain anything from ur comment my personal observation

At least you agree you have leaders now.
How did they know Jesus Christ directed them to keep watch over your souls?

How did Jesus Christ direct them to keep watch over your souls?

Did they tell you that Jesus Christ directed them to keep watch over your souls?

Did your self appointed governing body tell you that the self appointed elders in Jw congregation are directed by Jesus Christ to keep watch over your souls?

This is becoming more and more interesting.[/quote]

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Re: What's The Difference Between Christianity And Jehovah Witness? by Hairyrapunzel: 10:05am On Jun 16, 2018
Saybal:
Leave these people alone you are always attacking them what are you fighting for I hope you know that u cannot help God go and form your own movement if you like I Learn u are an ex member.go and preach like the Jw t least we discusses meaniful thing for an hour every Saturday they are harmless not the way u are portraying them I have not gain anything from ur comment my personal observation

At least you agree you have leaders now.
How did they know Jesus Christ directed them to keep watch over your souls?

How did Jesus Christ direct them to keep watch over your souls?

Did they tell you that Jesus Christ directed them to keep watch over your souls?

Did your self appointed governing body tell you that the self appointed elders in Jw congregation are directed by Jesus Christ to keep watch over your souls?

This is becoming more and more interesting.

If it ain't paining you you won't be commenting. I am happy it's getting to you.
How will you gain anything before? Is it not what those uninspired and fallible men in new York tell you to do you do?
Are they not self appointed? Do you guys take part in appointing them?
All jws are trained to have black and white thinking. I cannot help God yet your governing body tell you they are helping God watch over and feed his people.

Did I ever tell you that I wanted to start a movement? Abi it's another propaganda promoted by your leaders telling you disfellowshipped/apostate/critics of watchtower organization want to form their movement?
You people are just hilarious. You guys should keep showing nairaland what your organization really is.
Re: What's The Difference Between Christianity And Jehovah Witness? by Hairyrapunzel: 10:07am On Jun 16, 2018
Saybal:
Leave these people alone you are always attacking them what are you fighting for I hope you know that u cannot help God go and form your own movement if you like I Learn u are an ex member.go and preach like the Jw t least we discusses meaniful thing for an hour every Saturday they are harmless not the way u are portraying them I have not gain anything from ur comment my personal observation

At least you agree you have leaders now.
How did they know Jesus Christ directed them to keep watch over your souls?

How did Jesus Christ direct them to keep watch over your souls?

Did they tell you that Jesus Christ directed them to keep watch over your souls?

Did your self appointed governing body tell you that the self appointed elders in Jw congregation are directed by Jesus Christ to keep watch over your souls?

This is becoming more and more interesting.
Shame did not allow you comment on where I called out your church member for saying following Jesus' words in the Bible is rebellion.
Continue cherry picking
Re: What's The Difference Between Christianity And Jehovah Witness? by Barristter07: 6:17pm On Jun 17, 2018
achorladey:


Judgemental approach no good. No wonder an elder told a publisher that the day he disassociates himself/herself from the organization he can no longer worship Jehovah anymore.

It baffles me and I was forced to ask.....who did the publisher dedicate his life to in the first instance..... to God" or the "Organization".


27 My sheep listen to my voice; I know them, and they follow me. 28 I give them eternal life, and they shall never perish; no one will snatch them out of my hand. 29 My Father, who has given them to me, is greater than all c ; no one can snatch them out of my Father’s hand.



That is John 10:27-29 After reading, comeback and tell me the elder can snatch the sheep from the Fine shepherd.
So far you are still struggling to wrap your head around my previous conversation. Threats or intimidation won't do. All your recent post is filled with intimidation nothing more.


Bye bye!!!!!

grin grin Ignorance of the scriptures, Elders don't snatch the sheep, they are appointed by Jesus to Keep watch over the sheep , The question a sane person needs ask is for what purpose are they keeping watch ? That would let you realize how adhering to this arrangement is TIED to your salvation . - Hebrews 13:17

Kindly Gist me regarding where and how you follow the Bibles instruction in Hebrews 10:24,25 today ? grin grin

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Re: What's The Difference Between Christianity And Jehovah Witness? by Jessicha(f): 6:43pm On Jun 17, 2018

Achorladey: Christians should be united in same mind and line of thought. Agreed!!!! My question..... do all Christians believe the following set of scriptures Matthew 22:37-39, John 14:6, James 1:26,27 John 3:16 2 Timothy 3:16,17 John 4:24. Matthew 24:14?
If yes is your answer, do you believe Christian then have same line of thought and mind despite some minor difference that should not divide us?



The person that said you have no knowledge of scriptures to utter the bold didn't lie after all , you have really been blinded by sentiment's . Read the Book of Acts , Not even differences in Views regarding Circumcision was allowed , True Christians must be completely united in same mind .

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Re: What's The Difference Between Christianity And Jehovah Witness? by Hairyrapunzel: 7:45pm On Jun 17, 2018
Jessicha:



The person that said you have no knowledge of scriptures to utter the bold didn't lie after all , you have really been blinded by sentiment's . Read the Book of Acts , Not even differences in Views regarding Circumcision was allowed , True Christians must be completely united in same mind .
So explain why Paul and Barnabas had disagreement and went their separate ways in acts?
I am 100% certain you don't read the Bible alone because you would know that the early Christians used to disagree on certain things. The only thing people where reminded to have a united mind was in following and believing in Jesus Christ and His works.
Re: What's The Difference Between Christianity And Jehovah Witness? by Hairyrapunzel: 8:25pm On Jun 17, 2018
Barristter07:


grin grin Ignorance of the scriptures, Elders don't snatch the sheep, they are appointed by Jesus to Keep watch over the sheep , The question a sane person needs ask is for what purpose are they keeping watch ? That would let you realize how adhering to this arrangement is TIED to your salvation . - Hebrews 13:17

Kindly Gist me regarding where and how you follow the Bibles instruction in Hebrews 10:24,25 today ? grin grin


How did Jesus appoint these elders? Did the elders appoint themselves or is it the whole congregation that appointed them? Did they cast lot? Did they see Jesus appointing them in their dreams?

Kindly gist me regarding where and how you follow Jesus Christ's instruction stating He is the way, the truth and the life and that no one gets to the father except through Him

You turned a blind eye to verse 19 - 23 of Hebrews 10. I no fit laugh. The Bible still didn't say people will make everlasting life because they joined the congregation. Talk from here to Jericho the Bible only says salvation is gotten by faith in Jesus Christ. You cannot change it. In fact you cannot insert organization into the bible neither can you insert the word organized.
Re: What's The Difference Between Christianity And Jehovah Witness? by Jessicha(f): 7:57am On Jun 18, 2018
Some people have comprehension issues grin So worse

Personal disagreement is different from religious differences ( Like in the case of Circumcision ) . the former is based on personal opinion, the later is based on scriptural understanding . the Later is Vital and the point of discussion here

Either the former or latter must be settled .. No room for any division.

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Re: What's The Difference Between Christianity And Jehovah Witness? by achorladey: 8:53am On Jun 18, 2018
Jessicha:



The person that said you have no knowledge of scriptures to utter the bold didn't lie after all , you have really been blinded by sentiment's . Read the Book of Acts , Not even differences in Views regarding Circumcision was allowed , True Christians must be completely united in same mind .



Jessicha: The person(barrister007) that said you have no knowledge of scriptures to utter the bold didn't lie after all

Achorladey: Madam Jessicha, not only were you aiding and abetting a liar, you join in the conspiracy theory as well. Its no surprise, the popular Yoruba adage about a flea(fly) having to judge between a person that has wound and another person not having wound. Madam Jessicha who do you thinking the flea(fly) will support in this case?

Jessicha: you have really been blinded by sentiment's . Read the Book of Acts , Not even differences in Views regarding Circumcision was allowed,

Achorladey: Another lie! Acts 15 has not changed it remained the same ever since it was written. Acts 15 discussed circumcision or no circumcision palaver.
Acts 15:5,9-11, 19-21 no one single command was given to stop the circumcision issue. The final resolution on that day did not even mention circumcision in its wording. You know why? It simply because SUCH MINOR DIFFERENCE IS NOT ENOUGH TO RENDER GOD'S UNDESERVED KINDNESS INVALID OR MAKE US DISTINGUISH TRUE CHRISTIAN OR FALSE CHRISTIAN.

Jessicha: True Christians must be completely united in same mind.

Achorladey: Another lie! Ephesians 4:3 EARNESTLY ENDEAVORING TO MAINTAIN ONENESS OF THE SPIRIT IN UNITING BOND OF PEACE.
Do you think this verse is preaching 100% conformity? Emphasis on "earnestly endeavoring".

For reading exercise: Acts 15: 9-11
He did not discriminate between us and them, for he purified their hearts by faith. Now then, why do you try to test God by putting on the necks of Gentiles a yoke that neither we nor our ancestors have been able to bear? No! We believe it is through the grace of our Lord Jesus that we are saved, just as they are.”

Finally in fulfilling the law of the Christ as recently taught Galatians 5:6 Please read!!!! For in union with Christ Jesus, neither circumcision nor no circumcision is of any value, but faith operating through love is.
Re: What's The Difference Between Christianity And Jehovah Witness? by Hairyrapunzel: 8:54am On Jun 18, 2018
Jessicha:
Some people have comprehension issues grin So worse

Personal disagreement is different from religious differences ( Like in the case of Circumcision ) . the former is based on personal opinion, the later is based on scriptural understanding . the Later is Vital and the point of discussion here

Either the former or latter must be settled .. No room for any division.

Thank God you agree that there could be personal disagreement which is based on personal opinion.
People's person all opinion concerning scriptures can differ and they are still regarded as believers.
Religious differences concerning circumcision varied from person to person in the same congregation. And this led them to sending Paul and Barnabas to Jerusalem. At the end of the day circumcision isn't grounds for not considering people unbelievers. That's why you can have circumcised and uncircumcised people worshipping God and having faith in Jesus Christ as they are all considered believers.

When you force people to conform to a set of man made rules and punish them for deviating, it is no longer considered a Christian congregation but rather a cult or a high control group.

Paul went to Corinth where they had disputes about who to follow at the end of the day he said following Christ is the right thing. He even told them to be united in one mind in following Jesus Christ.

I know the Bible in one part tells gentiles to not eat things sacrificed to idols.

Acts 15:28-29
28 It seemed good to the Holy Spirit and to us not to burden you with anything beyond the following requirements: 29 You are to abstain from food sacrificed to idols, from blood, from the meat of strangled animals and from sexual immorality. You will do well to avoid these things.

I know another part that said you can eat even unclean things as long as you don't stumble a weaker person.

Romans14

Accept the one whose faith is weak, without quarreling over disputable matters. 2 One person’s faith allows them to eat anything, but another, whose faith is weak, eats only vegetables. 3 The one who eats everything must not treat with contempt the one who does not, and the one who does not eat everything must not judge the one who does, for God has accepted them. [b]4 Who are you to judge someone else’s servant? [/b]To their own master, servants stand or fall. And they will stand, for the Lord is able to make them stand.

5 One person considers one day more sacred than another; another considers every day alike. Each of them should be fully convinced in their own mind. 6 Whoever regards one day as special does so to the Lord. Whoever eats meat does so to the Lord, for they give thanks to God; and whoever abstains does so to the Lord and gives thanks to God. 7 For none of us lives for ourselves alone, and none of us dies for ourselves alone. 8 If we live, we live for the Lord; and if we die, we die for the Lord. So, whether we live or die, we belong to the Lord. 9 For this very reason, Christ died and returned to life so that he might be the Lord of both the dead and the living.

10 You, then, why do you judge your brother or sister[a]? Or why do you treat them with contempt? For we will all stand before God’s judgment seat. 11 It is written:

“‘As surely as I live,’ says the Lord,
‘every knee will bow before me;
every tongue will acknowledge God.’”[b]

12 So then, each of us will give an account of ourselves to God.

13 Therefore let us stop passing judgment on one another. Instead, make up your mind not to put any stumbling block or obstacle in the way of a brother or sister. 14 I am convinced, being fully persuaded in the Lord Jesus, that nothing is unclean in itself. But if anyone regards something as unclean, then for that person it is unclean. 15 If your brother or sister is distressed because of what you eat, you are no longer acting in love. Do not by your eating destroy someone for whom Christ died. 16 Therefore do not let what you know is good be spoken of as evil. 17 For the kingdom of God is not a matter of eating and drinking, but of righteousness, peace and joy in the Holy Spirit, 18 because anyone who serves Christ in this way is pleasing to God and receives human approval.

19 Let us therefore make every effort to do what leads to peace and to mutual edification. 20 Do not destroy the work of God for the sake of food. All food is clean, but it is wrong for a person to eat anything that causes someone else to stumble. 21 It is better not to eat meat or drink wine or to do anything else that will cause your brother or sister to fall.

22 So whatever you believe about these things keep between yourself and God. [/b]Blessed is the one who does not condemn himself by what he approves. 23 But whoever has doubts is condemned if they eat, because their eating is not from faith; and everything that does not come from faith is sin.

[b]Personal opinion concerning religious things mattered.
Re: What's The Difference Between Christianity And Jehovah Witness? by Jessicha(f): 9:43am On Jun 18, 2018
achorladey:




Jessicha: The person(barrister007) that said you have no knowledge of scriptures to utter the bold didn't lie after all

Achorladey: Madam Jessicha, not only were you aiding and abetting a liar, you join in the conspiracy theory as well. Its no surprise, the popular Yoruba adage about a flea(fly) having to judge between a person that has wound and another person not having wound. Madam Jessicha who do you thinking the flea(fly) will support in this case?

Jessicha: you have really been blinded by sentiment's . Read the Book of Acts , Not even differences in Views regarding Circumcision was allowed,

Achorladey: Another lie! Acts 15 has not changed it remained the same ever since it was written. Acts 15 discussed circumcision or no circumcision palaver.
Acts 15:5,9-11, 19-21 no one single command was given to stop the circumcision issue. The final resolution on that day did not even mention circumcision in its wording. You know why? It simply because SUCH MINOR DIFFERENCE IS NOT ENOUGH TO RENDER GOD'S UNDESERVED KINDNESS INVALID OR MAKE US DISTINGUISH TRUE CHRISTIAN OR FALSE CHRISTIAN.


Really ?

" Nevertheless, not even Titus, who was with me , was compelled to be CIRCUMCISED, although he was a Greek. But that matter came up because of the false brothers brought in quietly, who slipped in to spy on the freedom we enjoy in union with Christ Jesus, so that they might completely enslave us " Says Galatians 2:3,4

So why is Paul calling teachers of circumcision False brothers? Its a minor difference why can't he just let them be without calling them False brothers ?

Barrister07 was right after all.



Jessicha: True Christians must be completely united in same mind.

Achorladey: Another lie! Ephesians 4:3 EARNESTLY ENDEAVORING TO MAINTAIN ONENESS OF THE SPIRIT IN UNITING BOND OF PEACE.
Do you think this verse is preaching 100% conformity? Emphasis on "earnestly endeavoring".

For reading exercise: Acts 15: 9-11
He did not discriminate between us and them, for he purified their hearts by faith. Now then, why do you try to test God by putting on the necks of Gentiles a yoke that neither we nor our ancestors have been able to bear? No! We believe it is through the grace of our Lord Jesus that we are saved, just as they are.”

Finally in fulfilling the law of the Christ as recently taught Galatians 5:6 Please read!!!! For in union with Christ Jesus, neither circumcision nor no circumcision is of any value, but faith operating through love is.

To MAINTAIN shows 100% conformity, they are to strive to Maintain that already existing oneness
Re: What's The Difference Between Christianity And Jehovah Witness? by achorladey: 9:48am On Jun 18, 2018
Barristter07:


grin grin Ignorance of the scriptures, Elders don't snatch the sheep, they are appointed by Jesus to Keep watch over the sheep , The question a sane person needs ask is for what purpose are they keeping watch ? That would let you realize how adhering to this arrangement is TIED to your salvation . - Hebrews 13:17

Kindly Gist me regarding where and how you follow the Bibles instruction in Hebrews 10:24,25 today ? grin grin


barrister007: Ignorance of the scriptures, Elders don't snatch the sheep, they are appointed by Jesus to Keep watch over the sheep,

Achorladey: Judgemental approach as usual. Its part of you. The sheep does not belong to the elders from the start. The sheep were never baptised in the name of the elders. The fine Shepherd has promised to be with all of his sheep including those taking the lead among the sheep(because a sheep is leading another sheep does not necessary make that sheep a shepherd its just another sheep) until the conclusion of system of things.

barrister007: The question a sane person needs ask is for what purpose are they keeping watch? That would let you realize how adhering to this arrangement is TIED to your salvation. - Hebrews 13:17

Achorladey: The question a saner person need to ask is, where in Hebrews 13:17 restrict those taking the lead among you to be "elders"? And how does those taking the lead and keeping watch over their fellow brother and sister made them mediators between Jesus and God? 1 Peter 2:25.

The account the in Romans 14:12 Galatians 6:5 comes to mind. You only need to read and reflect.

barrister007: Kindly Gist me regarding where and how you follow the Bibles instruction in Hebrews 10:24,25 today?

Achorladey: Matthew 18:20 is the words of our leader(Jesus Christ). Explain exhaustively how well you understand it brother!!!!! Opo ko ni eyin to ba je gaga meji pere. Ni iwon igba ti meji yen ba ti le je eran ki ni iwulo yoku.
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Re: What's The Difference Between Christianity And Jehovah Witness? by Jessicha(f): 9:50am On Jun 18, 2018
Hairyrapunzel:


Thank God you agree that there could be personal disagreement which is based on personal opinion.
People's person all opinion concerning scriptures can differ and they are still regarded as believers.
Religious differences concerning circumcision varied from person to person in the same congregation. And this led them to sending Paul and Barnabas to Jerusalem. At the end of the day circumcision isn't grounds for not considering people unbelievers. That's why you can have circumcised and uncircumcised people worshipping God and having faith in Jesus Christ as they are all considered believers.

When you force people to conform to a set of man made rules and punish them for deviating, it is no longer considered a Christian congregation but rather a cult or a high control group.

Paul went to Corinth where they had disputes about who to follow at the end of the day he said following Christ is the right thing. He even told them to be united in one mind in following Jesus Christ.

I know the Bible in one part tells gentiles to not eat things sacrificed to idols.

Acts 15:28-29
28 It seemed good to the Holy Spirit and to us not to burden you with anything beyond the following requirements: 29 You are to abstain from food sacrificed to idols, from blood, from the meat of strangled animals and from sexual immorality. You will do well to avoid these things.

I know another part that said you can eat even unclean things as long as you don't stumble a weaker person.

Romans14

Accept the one whose faith is weak, without quarreling over disputable matters. 2 One person’s faith allows them to eat anything, but another, whose faith is weak, eats only vegetables. 3 The one who eats everything must not treat with contempt the one who does not, and the one who does not eat everything must not judge the one who does, for God has accepted them. [b]4 Who are you to judge someone else’s servant? [/b]To their own master, servants stand or fall. And they will stand, for the Lord is able to make them stand.

5 One person considers one day more sacred than another; another considers every day alike. Each of them should be fully convinced in their own mind. 6 Whoever regards one day as special does so to the Lord. Whoever eats meat does so to the Lord, for they give thanks to God; and whoever abstains does so to the Lord and gives thanks to God. 7 For none of us lives for ourselves alone, and none of us dies for ourselves alone. 8 If we live, we live for the Lord; and if we die, we die for the Lord. So, whether we live or die, we belong to the Lord. 9 For this very reason, Christ died and returned to life so that he might be the Lord of both the dead and the living.

10 You, then, why do you judge your brother or sister[a]? Or why do you treat them with contempt? For we will all stand before God’s judgment seat. 11 It is written:

“‘As surely as I live,’ says the Lord,
‘every knee will bow before me;
every tongue will acknowledge God.’”[b]

12 So then, each of us will give an account of ourselves to God.

13 Therefore let us stop passing judgment on one another. Instead, make up your mind not to put any stumbling block or obstacle in the way of a brother or sister. 14 I am convinced, being fully persuaded in the Lord Jesus, that nothing is unclean in itself. But if anyone regards something as unclean, then for that person it is unclean. 15 If your brother or sister is distressed because of what you eat, you are no longer acting in love. Do not by your eating destroy someone for whom Christ died. 16 Therefore do not let what you know is good be spoken of as evil. 17 For the kingdom of God is not a matter of eating and drinking, but of righteousness, peace and joy in the Holy Spirit, 18 because anyone who serves Christ in this way is pleasing to God and receives human approval.

19 Let us therefore make every effort to do what leads to peace and to mutual edification. 20 Do not destroy the work of God for the sake of food. All food is clean, but it is wrong for a person to eat anything that causes someone else to stumble. 21 It is better not to eat meat or drink wine or to do anything else that will cause your brother or sister to fall.

22 So whatever you believe about these things keep between yourself and God. [/b]Blessed is the one who does not condemn himself by what he approves. 23 But whoever has doubts is condemned if they eat, because their eating is not from faith; and everything that does not come from faith is sin.

[b]Personal opinion concerning religious things mattered.



Too bad

You lacked comprehension . Go and work on that first
Re: What's The Difference Between Christianity And Jehovah Witness? by Jessicha(f): 10:01am On Jun 18, 2018
achorladey:


barrister007: Ignorance of the scriptures, Elders don't snatch the sheep, they are appointed by Jesus to Keep watch over the sheep,

Achorladey: Judgemental approach as usual. Its part of you. The sheep does not belong to the elders from the start. The sheep were never baptised in the name of the elders. The fine Shepherd has promised to be with all of his sheep including those taking the lead among the sheep(because a sheep leading another sheep those not necessary make that sheep a shepherd its just another sheep) until the conclusion of system of things.

barrister007: The question a sane person needs ask is for what purpose are they keeping watch? That would let you realize how adhering to this arrangement is TIED to your salvation. - Hebrews 13:17

Achorladey: The question a saner person need to ask is, where in Hebrews 13:17 restrict those taking the lead among you to be "elders"? And how does those taking the lead and keeping watch over their fellow brother and sister made them mediators between Jesus and God? 1 Peter 2:25.

The account the in Romans 14:12 Galatians 6:5 comes to mind. You only need to read and reflect.

barrister007: Kindly Gist me regarding where and how you follow the Bibles instruction in Hebrews 10:24,25 today?

Achorladey: Matthew 18:20 is the words of our leader(Jesus Christ). Explain exhaustively how well you understand it brother!!!!! Opo ko ni eyin to ba je gaga meji pere. Ni iwon igba ti meji yen ba ti le je eran ki ni iwulo yoku.
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So funny

Why not just answer the bold first ?
Re: What's The Difference Between Christianity And Jehovah Witness? by achorladey: 10:03am On Jun 18, 2018
Jessicha:


Really ?

" Nevertheless, not even Titus, who was with me , was compelled to be CIRCUMCISED, although he was a Greek. But that matter came up because of the false brothers brought in quietly, who slipped in to spy on the freedom we enjoy in union with Christ Jesus, so that they might completely enslave us " Says Galatians 2:3,4

So why is Paul calling teachers of circumcision False brothers? Its a minor difference why can't he just let them be without calling them False brothers ?

Barrister07 was right after all.



To MAINTAIN shows 100% conformity, they are to strive to Maintain that already existing oneness



Peter was definitely among those "false brothers" Galatians 2:11-14 but does that made him lose his fact of being a Christian and an apostle? Minor difference is of no value to that great undeserved kindness.

Jumped "earnestly endeavoring" into "maintain".

What!!! already "oneness" when they are still dragging circumcision issue.
Re: What's The Difference Between Christianity And Jehovah Witness? by achorladey: 10:06am On Jun 18, 2018
Jessicha:

So funny
Why not just answer the bold first ?
They are keeping watch over there salvation Abi?.........Hahahahaha
Re: What's The Difference Between Christianity And Jehovah Witness? by Jessicha(f): 10:28am On Jun 18, 2018
achorladey:


Peter was definitely among those "false brothers" Galatians 2:11-14


Wow, grin grin grin In fact this is so good coming from you . this perfectly expose your lack of knowledge .

No enlightenment for you o, just remain like that .



but does that made him lose his fact of being a Christian and an apostle? Minor difference is of no value to that great undeserved kindness.


A false brother is an apostle hmm

As in grin grin

Just remain like that




Jumped "earnestly endeavoring" into "maintain".

What!!! already "oneness" when they are still dragging circumcision issue.

Eeyah grin grin

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Re: What's The Difference Between Christianity And Jehovah Witness? by Hairyrapunzel: 10:30am On Jun 18, 2018
Jessicha:


Too bad

You lacked comprehension . Go and work on that first
See someone that has achieved comprehension saying that salvation is guaranteed by joining an organization/congregation.

When you can provide the Bible passage that says or hints this then I will agree with you.
It's so funny that you want to force your belief on salvation being gotten by joining watchtower organization on the bible. Stating that since the early Christians where told to have a united mind about following Christ, then your organization is the true religion because they are united in following beliefs cooked up by your leaders in new York.

If you like o hate the fact that people had their own personal beliefs and it didn't make the apostles treat any with contempt. Who made you judge? You want to force people to conform to your man made belief that your organization is saviour.
Like it or not Christians were told to be united in mind in only following Jesus Christ.
Yet your watchtower magazines say you should be united in mind by following watchtower organization.
Continue trying to defend your evil man made beliefs. Try to twist verses to 100% conform to your beliefs.

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